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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Lowercase sigmabot III (talk | contribs) at 01:04, 28 June 2023 (Archiving 2 discussion(s) to Talk:United States Coast Guard/Archive 2) (bot). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Use of language in second paragraph seems to be more in the style of an advertisement than that of an encyclopedia

The second paragraph of this article reads more like promotional material than a useful description of the united states coast guard. It's hard to describe what exactly is wrong with the style of the paragraph directly. While the information appears at a glance to be accurate, it seems that all of the content is paraphrased directly from the united states coast guard. The only citation in the paragraph links to a document made by the Coast Guard. The paragraph appears to use buzzwords (such as cyberspace) in a way that conveys little information. It seems disingenuous to portray information sourced exclusively from the organization itself as the complete truth rather than contextualized as being from the organization. Stumpy3521 (talk) 14:51, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Phrasing probably should be changed then, but I agree, it is likely because whoever wrote it might have taken it directly from the Coast Guard's website Sunnyediting99 (talk) 16:22, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It can probably be rewritten, but cyberspace isn't a buzzword.Garuda28 (talk) 19:32, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I added some edits, if you think this is good (or bad) let me know. Sunnyediting99 (talk) 20:03, 28 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I can provide a citation for The Menu, I actually initially was planning on using it but because none of the popular culture movies had citations I decided to stick with uniformity rather than make it awkwardly stand out as I have little information on the others. That said, I can provide the source for the Menu. Also, the Menu arguably has more of a popular culture impact than many of the movies listed on here, given that the Menu has a stronger box office ratings and reviews than a sizable number of the films listed here. Sunnyediting99 (talk) 05:09, 1 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@BilCat please let me know your thoughts, though I do appreciate that you think citations should be universally added for popular culture. Sunnyediting99 (talk) 05:14, 1 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Pop culture sections are not a list of every film, TV, book, or game appearance of the subject, but of appearances that have been noted in reliable published sources to have significance to the subject. For military services, films or TV shows with significant support from the services can also be listed. Please read WP:MILPOP and WP:IPC carefully, and make sure your sources comply with those guidelines.
I will say that I don't believe The Menu (2022 film) will meet the guidelines, as the connection to the US Coast Guard is very weak at best. BilCat (talk) 08:19, 1 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That's fair, I won't add the Menu then as it was a plot point (for the USCG) albeit not the most important one. I'll take a look at those two then and see if any relevant sources can be added. Sunnyediting99 (talk) 16:15, 1 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Branch of the armed forces

It is described as a branch of the armed forces in the lead. But during peacetime it is not a part of the DoD. I would like to hear the input of other editors. PhotographyEdits (talk) 08:20, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It's defined as a branch of the armed forces in the United States Code. There's no definition of armed forces that limits that description to the Department of Defense. oknazevad (talk) 12:07, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Seconding this, the USCG is considered a branch of the Armed Forces, DoD documents often list it as the sixth branch but it is a branch regardless Sunnyediting99 (talk) 20:04, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Women in the Coast Guard

After these edits[1][2] by @Yeoman(F), I did some research. It does appear that a historian involved with the coast guard did further research and found that it was just Myrtle Hazard who served in the coast guard[3] and Genevieve and Lucille Baker did not serve in the Coast Guard or even the Navy during World War I." I'm willing to accept to accept this as definitive conclusion. The current material should be removed and on the Women in World War I. I was about to add the source until I saw @‎Skywatcher68 and @Garuda28: revert the edits so thought it would be better to discuss it. Meanderingbartender (talk) 15:53, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that source in support of Hazard. Considering that the Baker twins are so wide spread, Wikipedia should mention them and Hazard with the caveat that the account of the Bakers is likely apocryphal.   –Skywatcher68 (talk) 17:30, 27 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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