Talk:Mountaineering
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Absolute nonsense of a sentence
A commonly cited example is the 1492 ascent of Mont Aiguille (2,085 m (6,841 ft)) by Antoine de Ville, a French military officer and lord of Domjulien and Beaupré. This expedition was a military exercise involving a team using ladders and ropes. King Louis XIV ordered its ascent to assert national sovereignty and his rule of France.[12]
Antoine de Ville and Louis XIV lived centuries part. Did Louis XIV order a new climb? I don't know what the source (Peter H. Hansen (14 May 2013). The Summits of Modern Man.) says.--Adûnâi (talk) 00:48, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
Intersecting with climbing
Mountaineering and climbing are mutually intersecting sets. As per the definition mountaineering include subsets of:
- outdoor climbing and traversing via ferratas – intersected with the independent set of climbing;
- skiing – unrelated to climbing.
Therefore, these 2 types of sports (and their categories) cannot be in a hierarchical relationship: neither mountaineering is a sub-category of climbing, nor the opposite. I will separate their categories. --Elkost (talk) 06:41, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
Styles of mountaineering
"There are two main styles of mountaineering: expedition style and alpine style."
The article mentions "a siege-style expedition". Please explain what this is (perhaps in a new subsection for 'other' styles, besides the two main ones).
—DIV (1.145.36.244 (talk) 06:33, 8 November 2022 (UTC))
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- I have removed this; the Nanga Parbat was not more "siege style" than any other Himalayan expedition of that era. Aszx5000 (talk) 20:29, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
No section on equipment?
There should be a section on equipment. Mountaineering is a fairly technical activity, using specialist equipment, which should be mentioned in the article, with links to all the main types of equipment. · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 14:51, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
Breathing apparatus
I came here looking for information on high altitude breathing apparatus, to link from breathing apparatus, and found nothing. If there is anything useful on the topic on Wikipedia, please let me know. · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 14:54, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
- I am working my way through the main climbing articles to update and improve them (e.g. alpine climbing, ice climbing, big wall climbing, aid climbing etc.), but have not gotten to the main "top" articles of mountaineering and rock climbing (which are also in poor shape). The closest article that might be of help to you that I have seen is Bottled oxygen (climbing). Aszx5000 (talk) 15:46, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
Traversing via ferratas
I have never seen the act of using a via ferrata lumped in with mountaineering, and recommend omitting it. Mountaineering typically eschews the use of fixed hardware in all but the rarest cases—e.g.,where the danger is significant (fixed ladders on major peaks) or the hardware is a remnant of older expeditions or attempts that cannot be taken out of the rock (jammed cams on a technical climb or old pitons). The use of via ferratas is likely to occur on popular hikes in well-developed tourist areas, by contrast. 2601:280:4000:3D:CD8:ED66:F4A1:3AE0 (talk) 12:32, 24 October 2023 (UTC)