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Who is 'she', 'her' in the song text of 'Hey Jude' ?
I'm not native english and do not have formal english training, and don't grasp what or who is the person 'she', 'her' in the lyrics. In the Julian context it does not make sense (is the world female, are feelings or songs female grammatical gender?)
Actually only 'her' appears in the lyrics, but I prefer to ask for 'she' and 'her'.
I notice that 'her' is rhyming with 'better', and makes sense to Re-member. So 'her' could be just a 'filler'? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.56.145.145 (talk) 23:19, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
The several german lyrics translations translate 'she' and 'her' literally and are not clarifying.
In the context of a new partner the pronoun would make sense.
77.56.145.145 (talk) 22:46, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
- You did read this article, yes? You should find an answer in the section Inspiration and writing. --2003:C9:4716:F62:1C26:7384:CCAF:63D3 (talk) 09:04, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
Yes of course I did read the english article. It seems like a mixture between Julian and self Paul and you John (and maybe this is the solution, as in game theory with probability equilibrium where no fixed equilibrium exists). The song lyrics by themselves are not clear. The most heard idea about consolating (tröstend, утешая) Julian is not conclusive, and in the german translation the rhyme of 'her' to 'better' goes away.
In the german Wiki the section Inspiration and writing is absent and I can't add it. In the russian and the french Wikipediae the section Inspiration and writing is also absent, all three languages present only Julian. It is the english Wikipedia that mentions Paul and John, and the spanish. The idea makes sense, although it contradicts other languages.
It is obvious that it was not a grammatical 'her', like a ship.
77.56.145.145 (talk) 21:53, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
- Reminder - any such speculation would have to be supported by a reliable source. --John (User:Jwy/talk) 19:09, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
- Spoiler: it's Yoko Ono. Haha, just kidding. --Enjoyer of World (talk) 08:20, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
- This is a song. It's not a biography and every word does not have to be taken literally. "She" and "her" don't have to refer to anyone in particular. The song was inspired by a real event and real people, but that does not mean every word is specifically about them. There are dozens of Beatles songs (and many thousands of other songs) that use such pronouns but aren't necessarily about anyone. Sundayclose (talk) 22:04, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
- And you don't have to take my comment seriously. --Enjoyer of World (talk) 06:37, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Enjoyer of World: I wasn't responding to your comment. My statement is based on the OP. Sundayclose (talk) 00:19, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
- And you don't have to take my comment seriously. --Enjoyer of World (talk) 06:37, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
- This is a song. It's not a biography and every word does not have to be taken literally. "She" and "her" don't have to refer to anyone in particular. The song was inspired by a real event and real people, but that does not mean every word is specifically about them. There are dozens of Beatles songs (and many thousands of other songs) that use such pronouns but aren't necessarily about anyone. Sundayclose (talk) 22:04, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
"Fuckin' hell" may actually be "Take it out"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRZh5iOsWlM
- If you are suggesting a change to the article, a YouTube video by a random person is not a reliable source. If you are just chatting about the song, talk pages are only for discussing improvements to the article, not a chat room for general discussion. Sundayclose (talk) 23:15, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
- If there is some evidence of this as being credible in the future, it might warrant change on the wikipedia page. This is just a heads-up record.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.96.135.97 (talk • contribs)
- There is nothing about "fuckin' hell" in the article to change. Sundayclose (talk) 00:13, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
- Respectfully: last paragraph of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hey_Jude#Mixing --John (User:Jwy/talk) 02:36, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
- I stand corrected. Thanks. Sundayclose (talk) 02:49, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
- Respectfully: last paragraph of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hey_Jude#Mixing --John (User:Jwy/talk) 02:36, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
- There is nothing about "fuckin' hell" in the article to change. Sundayclose (talk) 00:13, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
- If there is some evidence of this as being credible in the future, it might warrant change on the wikipedia page. This is just a heads-up record.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.96.135.97 (talk • contribs)
Cliff Richard
This article currently mentions the promotional film for "Hey Jude" having filmed introductions by both "David Frost (who introduced the Beatles as "the greatest tea-room orchestra in the world") and Cliff Richard, for their respective TV programmes"." I've not seen any mention of Cliff before, and the source for it is this article from the Liverpool Daily Post, an interview with Marc Sinden who is among the crowd in the film. I'm wondering if this is correct. I've had a look online and I can't find any other reference to the Cliff introduction. Indeed, I can't see that Cliff had his own show broadcast in 1968. What do we think? Humbledaisy (talk) 00:26, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
Cover versions and McCartney live performances
The opening sentence claims: "In 1968, R&B singer Wilson Pickett released a cover recorded at Muscle Shoals Sound Studio . . ." The Wikipedia article states that the album was recorded at Rick Hall's FAME Studios in Muscle Shoals. Though they are connected by working history, these are two different studios, and The Swampers didn't found Muscle Shoals Sound Studios until 1969. Needs fixing. 76.197.210.99 (talk) 10:29, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
HEHEHA
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