User talk:GRBerry/Archive 8

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PR - mentorship where

i appreciate your attempts to keep things preventative, rather than merely punitive. however, i don't quite follow your reasoning that about this issue [1]. this issue has been repeating itself for at least 3 months and already both his mentors (discounting the sock) and a good number of more editors noted the user to stop. i believe PR is more than aware of what he is doing but he keeps trying, just as he kept calling me a war criminal after an ANI about that issue was already open. so, personally, i've lost my patience and i'm more than interested in preventative action. post-ANI link [2] (clarifies current issue). Jaakobou^{Chalk Talk} 07:45, 30 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You and he have a dispute. The two of you need to solve it. You can find a way to work amicably together (best), you can find a way to ignore each other (acceptable), or you can both end up in advanced forms of dispute resolution. I think if you go the third path, both of you will end up under sanctions. My advice is to either find a way for each of you to ignore the other, or to find a way to work together. I'd recommend you both practice Wikipedia:Writing for the enemy. GRBerry 13:34, 30 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"You and he have a dispute." - honestly, you've left me speechless. Jaakobou^{Chalk Talk} 22:21, 30 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sokolče

Hi, why did You revert back incorrect redirect Sokolče-Sokolce? It is usually and due to logic that we have redirects like Zilina-Žilina, Kosice-Košice, Roznava-Rožňava, but make it in opposite way ? We have in Slovakia town Zvolen, so I can make redirects: Žvolen-Zvolen, Zvoleň-Zvolen, Zvolén-Zvolen, Žvoleň-Zvolen, etc... ? Please, delete that, that was created as mistake by non-Slovak user, it is not just incorrect, but also confusing, because in Slovakia existed real village Sokolče (now inundated) and we noticed it in article of Stan Mikita, who was born there. Nice day and thank You for understanding --kelovy 17:43, 30 October 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Sorry to hear.

I won't bother you with my understanding of what a mentor should be like! PR^talk 14:44, 31 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete review req

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Marion Smith. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Setanta 05:25, 1 November 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Delete review req

This is my first time on Wikipedia and I'm trying to gather the differences of what is needed and what is not. The article in question is for Academic Management Systems. I'm trying to write an encyclopedic worthy article, much like CBS corporation and Pepsi, but am unable to do so due to the deletion. How can I appeal this decision until I'm finished editing the article? I am still learning how to add things like a table and other things and when i was just typing article and tried to save originally, it never saved and deleted all of my work which is why I am saving more piece-meal to make sure my work doesn't get lost. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Awarskig (talk • contribs) 15:31, 2 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My advice would be first to check WP:CORP, if you haven't done so already. Then, put the "spammy" text in your sandbox (here: User:Awarskig/sandbox), and work it from here until you feel it's encyclopedic. Policies you might want to check WP:N, WP:RS, WP:NPOV. Last but not least, check how to write a good article. Good luck.--victor falk 22:38, 2 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Belt Alliance fighter

I have read the guidlines and from my understanding and also from my viewing of the other starship pages my page is perfectly in line... tell me specifically what I missed and I'll do what I can. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Caltair (talk • contribs) 22:38, 2 November 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Louisdale, Nova Scotia

By deleting it, I'm unable to see what was happening. Can you explain in details what happened? Andrew⁶⁴⁷ 19:16, 2 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'll try, but I didn't fully sort the details; indeed; some of the explanation below I am sorting out in more detail now than I did earlier. I'm not sure what the conflict is about or who the real participants are; it appears to be a non-Wikipedia conflict spilling over onto us. That may be an ethnic conflict element from the looks of it, which surprises me for Nova Scotia. (But honeymooning there certainly doesn't make me an expert on the province's history).

The old copyright violation is from this geocities website or some other clone thereof. It was originally added in September 2006 by User:Johncena325.
Sometime in the next 12 months, the copyright of that section was questioned by a comment at the top of it, but nothing was really done.
On 5 September 2007, User:Uglybaraco222 described the history as bogus and added a lot of material that was either based on, or copied from [louisdaleisgrandiqueferry.piczo.com this site]. This was reverted as vandalism by a recent changes patroller.
On 7 September 2007, User:Billpeters888 was next along; he didn't make any immediately obvious substantive changes to the article.
The article stated essentially unchanged to 31 October 2007, but the alert about copyright issue vanished, as did all vestiges of sourcing. At this point the history section covered settlement to 1856.
On this date, User:142.167.242.246 came and roughly doubled the length of the history section going up to 1962 (clearly a copyvio from somewhere, I'm not sure where) added a WP:BLP violation regarding "Father Gary MacPherson", and encouragements to go to this [www.fathergaryisafake.piczo.com attack/dispute site].
A RC patroller flagged for speedy deletion. I confirmed that the community is a real place, and declined and flagged the article on 31 October. We had subsequent edits by User:142.167.227.227. When I had more time for review (wee hours this morning), I came back and eliminated the BLP violation and reference to the dispute site. At some point in here [www3.sympatico.ca/cormier.jp/other_html_history_of_louisdale.html. this] got claimed as a source.
Then, near 11 AM Atlantic time today, User:Grandiqueferry revised the "History" section title to be "Revisionist History" and referenced the same site that Uglybaraco222 had used. An RC patroller reverted as vandalism, then User:Toddst1 spotted the copyright violation.
I deleted the old copyright violation, completely eliminating the history section.
Grandiqueferry readded some of the copyright violating material, and Toddst1 listed at Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2007 November 2/Articles.
I happened to make the next addition to the copyright problem page, confirmed that it was a repeated copyright violation, and deleted the problem edits again. I then protected and requested help.

That is the mess, as best I can sort it out. It looks like an outside conflict spilling over onto us, combined with violations of copyright, violations of WP:NOR, and possible sockpuppetry. Why this is occurring over a small community in Nova Scotia is beyond me. GRBerry

Wow, insane. Andrew⁶⁴⁷ 04:43, 3 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

CSBot copycat

Allright, that was amusing. I guess this means CSBot's activity is now considered so "normal" that even vandals recognize its significance. :-) — Coren ^(talk) 02:13, 3 November 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Vedanta Society of Western Washington

Dear GRBeryy, just curious about deletion of this page. It is stated: 08:15, 3 November 2007 GRBerry (Talk | contribs) deleted "Vedanta Society of Western Washington" ‎ (WP:CSD#G12 copyright violation of [3]

Now, that page did perhaps violate copyright content, at http://www.vedanta-seattle.org/, but certainly none of the material was from the "band history" page you cited. Trust this was an error, and that you meant to put the other site. Sw.my 04:44, 5 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yet, that was a mistake. Log corrected. GRBerry 13:31, 5 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Sw.my 06:25, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Gail Kimbell misunderstanding

Hello, there may have been an error when you deleted the page, Gail Kimbell? The page was tagged for speedy deletion under WP:CSD#G12. The information on the page was taken from the U.S. Forest's Service's Web Site: About the Chief. This information is public domain. As stated in the policy for speedy deletion (WP:CSD#G12) there must be "no credible assertion of public domain, fair use, or a free license" for a page's speedy deletion. The problem is, this information was taken from a government website which under the Wikipedia:Public domain policy is public domain. It is also stated under the U.S. Forestry Service's Privacy Policy that the information presented on the website is considered public information and "may be distributed or copied unless otherwise indicated". Bottom line, it is not copyrighted material and should not have been deleted. If I have overlooked something, since I am still new at Wikipedia, please leave a comment. Thank you, --Cladestine 23:54, 5 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That was dumb of me. You are correct that U.S. government works are in the public domain. Restored. Tagged for wikification; as it does need some rewriting to match the usual Wikipedia style. GRBerry 02:04, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your help. I'll try to work on its' wikifaction. --Cladestine 20:51, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I figured that they would be copyright violations

Just because they seemed so similar in style to the other pages that were definitely copyvios.--h i s ^{s p a c e} _{r e s e a r c h} 14:32, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That isn't helpful, because we need more evidence. To delete as a copyright violation we need to know of what. From Wikipedia:Copyright problems#Instructions for special cases "Probable copyvios without a known source: If you suspect that an article contains a copyright violation, but you cannot find a source for the violation (so you aren't sure that it's a violation), do not list it here. Instead, place {{cv-unsure|~~~|2=FULL_URL}} on the article's talk page, but replace FULL_URL with the full URL of the article version that you believe contains a violation. (To determine the URL, click on "Permanent link" in the toolbox area, and copy the URL.)" GRBerry 14:38, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In Remembrance...

Image:Lest We Forget.png --nat ^{Alo! Salut! Sunt eu, un haiduc?!?!} 21:30, 6 November 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Jonathan Edwards

Hi,

Could you weigh in on the move debate on Talk:Jonathan Edwards (theologian)? Thanks.Brian0324 18:34, 7 November 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Bluemaven/Zana Dark

Hey, thanks for catching that typo! GlassCobra 21:49, 12 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Morrison

Hello, I am curious if you would like to weigh in on whether this page should be moved back to simply Robert Morrison as a WP:DISAMBIG#Primary_topic? See Talk:Robert Morrison (missionary). Thanks for your input.Brian0324 22:01, 12 November 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Gertrude Baniszewski

I was just curious about why you reverted the addition of a death date with reference & the correction of the year of trial, which was supported in the reference? Thanks. Wildhartlivie 23:49, 14 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It was a screw up. For some reason, that I don't now recollect, I'd thought the editor was making bad edits. I know that I didn't notice the reference. GRBerry 03:19, 15 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I'm just glad to find someone who will say that!! Wildhartlivie 04:35, 15 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Internationalised Curriculum

Please unprotect so that I may add this again as I believe it has been deleted for all the wrong reasons. Despite my efforts to look for references the article kept being delete...very frustrating...so here are a reem of references and there are many more to show this IS a term that needs inclusion as it IS a widely discussed anissue in the academic world. Wikipedia is a place many will look for this type of information. It should not be relegated to Googlepedia. Please favourably consider my request ao that we can proceed positively. Thank you 124.120.36.147 07:09, 15 November 2007 (UTC) 1. Queens University Belfast: http://www.qub.ac.uk/directorates/AcademicStudentAffairs/CentreforEducationalDevelopment/InternationalisingtheCurriculum/ "....lobal context should therefore be a central aim of an internationalised curriculum."[reply]

2. http://pdfdownload.randomlypoked.com/pdf2html.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Flsn.curtin.edu.au%2Flearn_online%2Fdocs%2FInternationalise.pdf&images=yes "WHAT IS DIFFERENT ABOUT AN INTERNATIONALISED CURRICULUM?"

3. http://www.cebe.heacademy.ac.uk/learning/curriculum/index.php "http://www.cebe.heacademy.ac.uk/learning/curriculum/index.php" "Current teaching practices/your experience in delivering an internationalised curriculum "

4; Oxford Brooks University: http://www.brookes.ac.uk/services/ocsld/online/international_curriculum/index.html "The internationalised curriculum

* Book now: 2 April - 2 May 2008

This course is designed to introduce you to the wide-ranging concept of an internationalised curriculum and to work through a practical application to a programme with which you work."

5. Griffith University: http://www.griffith.edu.au/landt/goodpractice/pdf/Item%209_Internationalisation%20of%20the%20curriculum%2004_0858.pdf "The Group is responsible for providing the resources for the training of staff in awareness of and commitment to the need for an internationalised curriculum and for process in updating and changing curriculum as required."

6. Univesity of South Australia: http://www.unisanet.unisa.edu.au/learningconnection/staff/practice/internationalisation/documents/InternationalisationCurriculumPerth.pdf "In 1995 a typology of internationalised curriculum was published (IDP Education Australia 1995)." Also refer IDP Education Australia 1995 publications.

This page was protected by User:RHaworth due to repeated recreation of spam at multiple article titles. I am not willing to assume on blind faith that the next creation would not also be spam needing deletion. Nor can an IP editor create a page. An established Wikipedian can write a draft in their userspace and present it for review at deletion review. Such a draft will have to adhere to policy and guidelines. GRBerry 14:01, 15 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

ironfurnaces.com

Greetings. I would just like to introduce you to my site, ironfurnaces.com, that is dedicated to cataloging all of the historic iron furnaces around the world (no matter how little content is available). I do not take information from places to put it on my site, instead I would rather have people come and put information on there themselves. I invite you to become an editor on the site and load some photos and a brief history if you would like. This site is completely free to view or edit and contains no advertisement or pop-ups of any kind. (And uses the Wikimedia software.)Rhammond 10:05, 15 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Paul Wolfowitz

It seems we've reached a consensus on the disputed point.[4] It's probably ok to unprotected, but that's to your discretion. Thanks for stopping the edit war. Cool Hand Luke 18:46, 15 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Patrick Alexander (Cartoonist)

Morning! You may remember speedy deleting the above article last month. It appears it was recreated under a different name on the very same day by a disgruntled supporter of the aricle. Please see my post on the subject here. It has already been independently renominated for deletion but the discussion was rather stunted due to only those who took part in the article's stealth recreation being present! :D Given it's a straight reproduction of this previously (twice and one review) deleted article I'd request this be deleted straight off the bat. At the very least it should be relisted in AfD. Many thanks. Hen Features 05:29, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to ask a more experienced admin to review. I'm too tired right now, and it isn't critically urgent. GRBerry 05:38, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fair play. One thing I've learnt is that nothing is ever as pressing as the one who's pressing would like you to believe. I quote Bright Eyes. Thanks for taking the time to have a look at it, though. I did also flag this up with the admin who closed it.Hen Features 05:41, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]