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Trottski
I'm still beavering away when I get a chance; there seems to be some discrepancies in the sources about some minor stuff, particularly as to how long he spent in Bendigo. Pleae keep checking the format of the refs, that's not my strong point. I hope to finish the c-e soon so you can go to straight to FA.
Phanto282 (talk) 07:53, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Ah! You rumbled my game ... that is OR to link the omission of Albert to a falling out with Harry, but I have never seen it mentioned anywhere, so I have carefully complied with OR requirements by the juxtaposition of several facts, allowing the reader to draw their own conclusion. I have done all the reading I was going to do, so I will finish in the next couple of days if time permits.
Phanto282 (talk) 06:55, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Daylesford
Many a drunken night spent in that pub in my younger days. I'm on the wagon nowadays. I see you have uploaded a few images to the Daylesford, Victoria collection on Commons. When were you in my old home town? I was wondering if you might have been from down that way?--Sting Buzz Me... 12:39, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Cool :-) The pic brought back memories. I live in Brisbane now. I know Bacchus Marsh. Hottest place in Australia, because it's near meltin ;-) --Sting Buzz Me... 12:54, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Victorian railway images
A update on the situation is at User_talk:Rebecca#Victorian_rail_images - I have got an email response from the author and need to know what to do. Wongm (talk) 11:15, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Hurley article
Hi Matt, thank you for your note, I have left my opinion at the article however I have not read the policy you refer to so I am only going by your and Rebecca's interpretation of the policy. If need be I'll look at the policy and give a more well researched opinion however this would not be for a few days. I can definitely see your point though and wouldn't be surprised if you end up being correct and my being incorrect. Cheers, WikiTownsvillian 16:01, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
palm Island
Ok sorry i just put it back because this is how WikiTownsvillian had it, guess i will leave it up to him to fix.Thuringowacityrep (talk) 09:46, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Please chime in
At this thread. I'm trying to ascertain consensus before closing the PR and moving to FAC. Thanks! --Dweller (talk) 13:30, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi there. There was an OTRS complaint that Daniel got about this. A student from PAC, Hill's school, complained that "the local Methodist school" was derogatory and wanted to add us to whack in a bit about PAC being one of Adelaide's most prestigious. I commented on my talk page. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 07:21, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Murrumbidgee River is new ACOTF
Murrumbidgee River has been selected as the new Australian collaboration. You nominated this article, so please help to improve it in any way you can, and perhaps include a {{Todo}} list on the talk page to help guide other editors. Thanks! --Scott Davis Talk 07:15, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Falzon
Hi, I notice you removed someone's edit re her current date. I believe it was said on tonight's (Monday 9 June) Australian Story. I'm not going to put it back as I couldn't swear by it - all I remember is that she's moving to Perth to be with her footballer boyfriend whose name I think was Brett (you can see how much I know about football)...and I'm not sure anyhow whether a person's current "date" is important encyclopedia fodder!Sterry2607 (talk) 13:07, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Bot for WPAus locations
What is wrong with having a bot create a stub for places? That locatilities To-do list is probably less than 5% of the total. Lots of these places are small towns far away. Would you rather have someone toil to collect the basics like population, postcode, electoral division, climate data, templates and categories, when these basic facts and editing tasks can be automated? If these hundreds (if not thousands) of remaining Australian towns and settlements were created then other editors would be more likely to check backlinks, add notable facts, photos, citations, etc. I thought that this bot proposal was compatible with WPAustralia's goals. Don't assume it isn't going to be accurate, its just upgrading a set of places whose articles are non-existant to stub class. - Shiftchange (talk) 03:05, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
- Firstly I am philosophically opposed to force-growing the encyclopedia in this manner. Bots are great for performing midless repetitive edits, not so much for things such as creating articles. The job of finding details on postcodes, population, electorates, etc. isn't not a straightforward as one may think and I see the potential for huge amounts of unchecked error. This will take time to firstly find and fix and in priniciple, I feel that a non-existent article is better than one that is chock-full of errors. Secondly, I abhor sub-stubs; articles that consist of one or two sentences, an infobox and a navbox. A blue link is a promise to a reader that the information on the linked page will be relevant and useful. These bot-generated articles fail on both counts. At least a red link is honest and says that we have nothing relevent on the topic at present.
- I have written plenty of stubs on small Australian places and will continue to in the future. I am in the process of adding infoboxes to Queensland towns, having already done Vic. and Tas. (). So I understand some of the drudgery involved. Even so, I am opposed to the project as a whole and especially so here in Australia—where we have plenty of editors to create the articles in a competent, diligent manner and where the problem of systemic bias surely doesn't exist. -- Mattinbgn\talk 09:23, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Port Fairy External Links
I added a external link to a site which was removed to site ptfairy.com.au & assume you removed it. I read the guidelines & felt the site qualified. The web site is a unique Port Fairy Portal, has an image gallery of over 700 original images, local news regularly updated & events calendar amongst many other features. Should I have made the link a complete URL? --23:21, 12 June 2008 (UTC)Ptfairy (talk)
Thank you
for the unexpected and delightful award and for starting off the renovation rescue. I am not sure if I would have tackled it if a start hadn't been made! --Matilda talk 00:30, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Newest Cabal
Having investigated this situation more fully it seems that the three of you Mattinbgn, Longhair and Matilda belong to your own cabal now - all apparently having been informed by your grandmother (or similar) to mind your own business in this way. Unfortunately, as I have never been told to mind my own business by anyone (let alone my grandparents) I am unable to join up (*said with fingers crossed behind my back*). However I wish you all well. :) --VS talk 01:38, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Never enough australian idiomatic experessions on wikipedia - long may they arise from the depths of our collective wisdom - grandmothers included SatuSuro 07:37, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Pt Fairy
Sorry if here's not the correct place to reply but it was the only section I could find ... re your reply to my previous post .. I added the site because I noticed 2 other links to sites on the pt fairy page, My PortFairy - Accommodation, Dining, Events and Activities + Port Fairy Community Pages which are both (as far as I am aware) sites that charge for advertising & have many sub-domains & external links to paying clients. No sites on our portal pay advertising (they are all local to Pt Fairy) , we have news, images, community input & local information which is topical & original. I did read the sections you mentioned & felt that we would certainly be included considering the other external links on the page.--Ptfairy (talk) 16:08, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Speedy Delete A7 - albums
Thanks! I missed that part of the policy. I also note you did a bit of cleanup following my attempted cleanup. Sorry to create more work for you. Won't happen again. — X S G 06:08, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
Underpus
No thanks, if I have to do all of that stuff I'll just not make the article. Pretty stupid in my opinion, as what can Underpus be advertising? Free ice cream at my house during 6a.m. to 12p.m.? I think not, but thanks though! Underpus (talk) 06:26, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
Harry Trott source
I saw the questioning of the [1] source at the FAC for Harry Trott]. I wouldn't strike it as a source just yet. My quick look around there shows sources for every biography on the site. You might take it to Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard and see what the consensus is before removing it. — Bellhalla (talk) 15:36, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
Mathematical relationship
Between offering some a big readable intro welcome, vs the capacity wreak chaos - exists - sigh - havent forgotten one of my tasks today - cheers SatuSuro 00:52, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
ZOMG!
Buc's objections have turned me into a newbie! --Dweller (talk) 09:52, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
- Thought you must have been rattled to do that! :-) -- Mattinbgn\talk 12:14, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia Updates
Hi, I have been trying to update swimming athletes pages today by providing links to their profiles on Speedo.com (the official sponsor) but they keep getting removed. Can you tell me why?
Harry Trott
Thanks for the fixes. I will be coming back to the FAC for another round of comments, but first I want to make a clean-up pass myself. It's easier for me to fix any obvious mistakes myself than to clog up the FAC with typos and such. Only problem is that I am tired since I just worked on the massive Donald Bradman article, not to mention tracking the other sport-related candidates. I'll run through it tomorrow, and expect comments either then or the next day. Giants2008 (talk) 23:56, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
That was an edit conflict due to using Huggle. Thanks for catching it. ... discospinster talk 00:38, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
- I thought it must have been something like that. Cheers, Mattinbgn\talk 02:42, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
Nice work
Nice work for an afternoon on Lucindale, South Australia Well done. --Scott Davis Talk 12:13, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
- Considering I had never heard of it until this afternoon! -- Mattinbgn\talk 12:21, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
Adelaide Red Blue Eagles
Adelaide Red Blue Eagles (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) is not a notable amateur football team playing in a legitimate competition. I dispute the claim that it is non-notable, pointing to an article in The Murray Valley Standard as proof of the clubs notoriety, which has a circulation of almost 4,000 (ABC audited). In regards to the SAASL being a purely social competition, the SAASL is the level of football (soccer) below the three professional leagues of South Australia which are run by the FFSA. Many players in the league are payed money to play, making it a business exchange. Social soccer is playing in the park with mates.
Considering your RfA, I found "All candidates should be self-nominations" slightly ironic. :-) I did like reading your thoughts though. giggy (:O) 08:35, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
- No reflection on you, of course. I guess my thoughts were similar to yours. I loathe seeing admin-noms as a trophy and I don't feel they add any more than a simple support would do. If we must have "trophies", they should be for article development and not the meta-processes around them. The only problem would be encouraging candidates to nominate. I doubt I would have thrust my name forward if I wasn't pushed. :-) -- Mattinbgn\talk 08:47, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
- I'm sure I could have convinced you! One answer I especially liked was yours to Q4, it's a damn shame more people don't share your attitude. giggy (:O) 09:31, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
- I have tossed up taking WP:CANVASS to MfD but figure it would be tilting at windmills. It is unenforceable, promotes ignorance as a virtue, assumes admins and bureaucrats are morons with no judgement skills at all and worst of all, it is used as a blunt stick to stifle debate. In the last case, it is used mainly by editors, who—having never actually read the guideline— are attempting to have arguments defeated on the grounds of process rather than merit. Nine times out of ten, the supposed "canvassing" they are complaining about is allowed under the guideline anyway. -- Mattinbgn\talk 09:55, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
- You're totally correct. Here's the latest example (zomg I just canvassed for it!). giggy (:O) 10:17, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
- I have tossed up taking WP:CANVASS to MfD but figure it would be tilting at windmills. It is unenforceable, promotes ignorance as a virtue, assumes admins and bureaucrats are morons with no judgement skills at all and worst of all, it is used as a blunt stick to stifle debate. In the last case, it is used mainly by editors, who—having never actually read the guideline— are attempting to have arguments defeated on the grounds of process rather than merit. Nine times out of ten, the supposed "canvassing" they are complaining about is allowed under the guideline anyway. -- Mattinbgn\talk 09:55, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
- I'm sure I could have convinced you! One answer I especially liked was yours to Q4, it's a damn shame more people don't share your attitude. giggy (:O) 09:31, 22 June 2008 (UTC)