User talk:Researcher99
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[[User:Sam Spade|Sam Spade Arb Com election]] 12:50, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Three revert rule
You have been blocked for 24 hours under the three revert rule. If you wish to appeal please contact another administrator or the mailing list.Geni 23:00, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Polygamy article
I noticed that you got your timeline together - I would propose copying the language you want to change to the talk page - making the change there - asking for comments, and then replacing it in the article after discussion (or if no one objects after a day or two). I will reread the article in anticipation of working with you to get a NPOV version put in. Also - if a revert war reappears - the best course of action is to allow other editors who agree with you do the 2nd revert, etc, so that it is clear to any admins who is trying to force a non-concensus version of the article. Trödel|talk 20:57, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
- I very much appreciate the way in which you have tried to positively affect the hostile situation. (Also, yes, it was very exhausting putting that timeline together!)
- I believe there is a bigger problem going on right now which would make it impossible to have a more honestly legitimate and informed "consensus" anyway, as long as the sneaky vandals remain. I posted my concern about the issue today in the polygamy TALK page:
- Solution Needed for Gangs of Sneaky Vandals
- (We should not reward bad behavior or allow misinformation)
- Now another sneaky vandal, Nereocystis, has re-appeared to pretend to have a "consensus" with the sneaky vandalism of Ghostintheshell.
- Among the issues I listed in that latest post I made to TALK about all this, Nereocystis has previously tried to unnecessarily sneak their anti-polygamists' hostile underage agenda into the polygamy wiki, while seeking to "distract" me as they battled for another sneaky vandalism issue about that particular case. An example of this can be seen as part of what I had to correct here.
- Now Nereocystis "returns" back to the polygamy wiki to give their "consensus" with a fellow sneaky vandal, Ghostintheshell. You will note what Nereocystis has now recently said in reply to one of your posts in TALK. When you rightly noted in "Young Marriages"' the context that marrying teenage girls was common in the 1800s, I quickly affirmed your excellent point and explained how only a hostile anti-polygamy POV would otherwise try to hint that such an irrelevant statement was pertinent. But now the returning sneaky vandal, Nereocystis, has again tried to push the underage slant in their reply to you about that.
- The polygamy wiki article is now such a mess. It needs to go back to the original STATUS QUO that occurred in either your first Rvs or my Rv-of-your-Rvs. Then we can all begin again, starting in TALK. That STATUS QUO method from the Wiki Guidelines for controversial topics is all that I had sought from the beginning of the entire ordeal. But it is clear that the two sneaky vandals want only the desctruction of the polygamy wiki, disqualifying them from even really being counting as valid "opinions" of "consensus" anymore anyway. You will note that neither of the two has ever made even one single attempt to accomodate anything with me. That defines and proves their intentions best. So, to allow them now is only to reward, welcome, and invite more bad behavior.
- I am very grateful, though, to your seeking to help in this very frustrating situation. - Researcher 18:18, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
Please use Talk:Polygamy#Disputed
Please use the Disputed section of Talk:Polygamy#Disputed. This will allow us to reach an agreement on the content of the Polygamy page. Please do not make changes in controversial areas when we are trying to make changes. I have repeatedly requested that you use this section. So far, you have refused. Please change your practices. Nereocystis 22:53, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Glad to help
Sure, I'll be glad to be your MA for the Polygamy issue. I start a new (real-world) job tomorrow so it might be a couple of days before I have time to get up to speed on everything, but I'll do my best! Kurt Weber 21:44, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
- Thank you. Congratulations on your new job. I very much understand the need for a few days to catch up. There is a lot of evidence and history to read through, so I do know it will take some time for you, on top of the matter of your new job. I appreciate your willingness to help. Researcher 10:04, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for discussing polygamy
I think that we are making progress, though it may be a while before we agree on the wording of everything. Nereocystis 22:43, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
Let's try Wikipedia:Mediation for Polygamy
Since Wikipedia:Negotiation hasn't worked for resolving our differences with the Polygamy article, let's try Wikipedia:Mediation. Are you willing to try it? Nereocystis 20:41, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
Please suggest a path for resolution by Sunday
Many times you have said that you are interested in resolving the issue of edit wars in Polygamy. You rarely comment on any strategy other people suggest. When you comment, you turn down proposals. Here are some of the suggestions you have not agreed to:
- Try Mediation
- Use the talk pages to discuss proposed changes
- Explains changes you desire, keep it brief
- Forget personal issues and focus on content
- Choose section and discuss your preferred text
- A large number of choices includes mediation, arbitration, talking or being banned
Please choose one of these suggestions, or create your own specific suggestion. Restoring to true status quo is not a specific suggestion. It must include specific text, even a link to one specific version of Polygamy past would be a start.
If you do not have a specific proposal by the end of the day Sunday, I will assume that you are not interested in resolving this edit war. Nereocystis
Please consider Uriah923's offer for help with polygamy article
I'm putting this suggestion here to make sure that you see it and it doesn't get lost in the Talk:Polygamy page.
Let's take up Uriah923's offer. He may be able to guide us through the process of conciling our versions of the document.
If you cannot agree to Uriah923's offer, please give me a 2 or 3 sentence description of what you need in order to be able to move forward. Nereocystis 21:31, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
Stop modifying Nereocystis's indentations
I am using the standard indentation style defined in Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines#Layout. Please do not modify my identation. Nereocystis 19:18, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
- Readers of my user TALK page here may note the above vandalism by Nereocystis, to which I responded in an ongoing TALK dispute, here. The fact is, the second bulleted item of Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines#Layout declares that we are supposed to keep threads understandable. My use of indentation was to prevent the overwhelming confusion that Nereocystis adds with all their unindented posts on TALK pages. That Nereocystis would now vandalize my user TALK page with this attack reveals that they have been purposely trying to cause that overwhelming confusion by refusing to indent in so many in-depth threads. 23:15, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
Requests for comment on Researcher99's conduct
I have been having problems with Researcher99's conduct since May. I have created an RFC page for him Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Researcher99. There needs to be one more person involved in the conflict who is willing to sign this page in the next 48 hours. I appreciate everyone's help with trying to resolve this conflict.
If anyone feels that my conduct needs an RFC, feel free to add me to Wikipedia:Requests for comment/User conduct. Nereocystis 17:24, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
Your forgot to sign the RFC. You may want to do so.
Researcher99, if you are willing to follow Uriah923's suggestions, we won't need to fight. Our previous discussion was going nowhere. Uriah's suggestion was reasonable, though wasn't my first suggestion. Nereocystis 20:04, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
- I will not accept what I now see as an obvious set-up. If Uriah923 was as unbiased as they claim, there is no way they would have participated in the abusively unnecessary idea of the Requests_for_comment/Researcher99 page. By doing that, they furtehr persuaded me that I was right about their bias and refusal to listen to me. Maybe they can correct that mistake, but now I am doubtful that they are genuinely unbiased at all. Before Uriah923 interrupted the resolution process, the only reason that kept us from moving forward was your delay in one single little act of good faith, to allow the removal of an easy NPOV tag. What Uriah923 has now created is a monumental task that is in complete violation of the one-topic-at-a-time issue we had otherwise agreed. It will also fail because you are still unwilling to show even the sleightest of good faith acts, as your ridiculous refusal of the removal of the one NPOV tag and your refusal of the easy group marriage solution I offered. As long as you absolutely refuse to listen or to work with me under any circumstances, you are the one keeping resolution from occurring. Instead of vandalizing my userpage here with your obviously fake "friendliness," the more appropriate thing to do is to not change your actions of overwhelmingly abusing me and instead start being truly friendly in real actions. Researcher 23:26, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
You might want to look for a new AMA. Your first choice seems to be too busy to respond to you. Unfortunately, in the volunteer community, some people don't follow through with their promises. Nereocystis 20:07, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
- Readers may note that I was already saying I plan on doing that on the abusively unneccessary Requests_for_comment/Researcher99 page. If Nereocystis wants to be as genuinely "helpful" as they pretend to be here, their actions will be to be patient (as I have been) instead of their aggressively continuing to taking fast action to cause one battle after the next. Researcher 23:26, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
Anti-polygamy article situation ARCHIVED
I created an archive so that a coherent record as to what happened with that attempted article.
- [[Talk:User_talk:Researcher99/Archive01|Anti-Polygamy Article, Talk, and VfD ARCHIVED]]
Researcher 18:59, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
- The official VfD for anti-polygamy is at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Anti-polygamy Nereocystis 19:13, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
- Readers may note how Nereocystis knows they are unwelcome here and yet they choose to more or less still vandalize my personal user TALK page with their needless input. They know that the Archive I made here already provides links to the LOGS anyway. They know they are considered an abuser and do not belong filling my TALK pages with unnecessary messages. Frankly, it shows me again that they are stalking me. Wherever and anywhere I post, they are there to hassass me with their abuse. Researcher 19:20, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
I'll do what I can
I haven't been in the loop regarding Wikipedia or the AMA recently, as I've been wrapped up in research of my own, but I'll see what I can do. I anticipate being able to check this dispute at least twice daily. Alternatively, I can refer your request for assistance to another advocate. For the record, the subject under dispute is outside of my area of expertise.
I'm reading through the considerable amount of discussion on various related talk pages. Here's a summary of what I've gathered so far. I am stating this information as I understand it from the information on the talk pages; this summary does not represent my own opinion of the dispute. Please let me know if I've missed or misrepresented anything important - there's a very large amount of pertinant information to wade through, some of it conflicting with the rest:
- It seems that you are in agreement regarding the current content of the articles on polygamy and group marriage, but a dispute remains over the archiving of the talk pages of those articles and the NPOV tags above certain sections.
- You initially welcomed Uriah923's participation as an unofficial mediator, but you now see him as an interloper in a resolution process that you proposed about a month ago.
- You do not agree with the outline proposed by Nereocystis, and prefer to stick with the original proposed resolution, but the other parties involved are unwilling to follow the original resolution process. You have not (yet) submitted your own outline, presumably because you do not agree with the resolution process that Uriah923 has proposed.
- Nereocystis and Uriah923 see you as being "extremely difficult to work with", while you see them as aggressive and relatively uneducated editors of the topic under dispute.
- This dispute has not yet entered formal mediation.
- There is (was?) a separate but related dispute between you and Ghostintheshell.
I think that the first step in resolving this dispute is to agree upon a resolution process. To that end, I would like to hear the viewpoints of Nereocystis, Uriah923, and perhaps Dunkelza, and, if necessary, arrange an IRC chat between the four of you where I can identify what is holding up dispute resolution progress. Is that acceptable? Please let me know what you would have me do. Thanks.
Metasquares 03:32, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
AMA Assistance
Hello, thanks for the note. I'm willing to assist you, however, I am really not able to look at anything until tomorrow - I'm on a business trip. I'll let you know. Conradrock 20:32, 31 August 2005 (UTC)