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Devastator Source

This all seems a bit bit thin, TFW2005 showing an image dug up from what as best as I can tell is a Japanese toy forum, is this really WP:RS and warrant inclusion in the article? Oosh (talk) 23:18, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Two things will either happen; Bay will say Devastator will look slightly different when rendered on screen, pleased fans have responded well to his 120 feet tall robotic gorilla; or Hasbro will request TFW2005 remove the image or risk their unofficial ties. I have yet to see a truly fake piece of concept art; this confirms and validates (or, as some may see it, validated by) the rumours that Devastator was a multi-coloured behemoth shaped like a gorilla, formed by a red excavator, a yellow crane, a massive turbine formed by a concrete mixer, and a green dump truck designed by Josh Nizzi for a leg. :) Alientraveller (talk) 13:27, 12 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, all the concept art seems to play out, but at the risk of being a pedant it doesn't make it reliable. Oosh (talk) 08:04, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
What's that motto, "verifiability, not truth, is the threshold of Wikipedia"? According to all news sites, this is a leaked promotional image of Devastator, and the same pic of him is being used on a background with Megatron and the Fallen. It doesn't matter who found it first, there's an image of Devastator and we don't know the filmmakers rejected this design (like Soundwave's Silverado form, or Megatron's original narrow head that appeared on all the merchandise for the first film). Alientraveller (talk) 21:47, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Two Constructicons officially named on official TF site

The licensed Transformers Collectors Club has boxed pictures of Constructicons named Demolishor (the red Terex excavator, body) and Rampage (the yellow Caterpiller bulldozer, left leg) on their web site. [1] So we seem to have verifiable names for these two guys. Also, these vehicle modes and colors match that "leaked" list from a while ago. This site is licensed by Hasbro, so it seems official enough to be a source. Mathewignash (talk) 14:27, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I had implemented that but for some reason it got reverted, probably got lost in a revert to other edits adding rumours. Alientraveller (talk) 15:09, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Do we have any official source on the four Constructicion names? I know some TF sites have called them Mixmaster, Long Haul, Hightower and Scrapper, but I don't recall seeing it from an OFFICIAL source yet. Mathewignash (talk) 23:07, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Long Haul's Robot Heroes figure is named as such in TFCC's site. The other three though, there's an issue, it seems TFormers might have assumed they would have their G1 names but it's verifiable per Wikipolicy as the article was Toy Fair related. Might be worth keeping until a better source contradicts it, I doubt the mixer truck will have a different name. Alientraveller (talk) 11:06, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I was doubting that they will use the name Mixmaster because Hasbro's legal department hasn't okayed the use of Mixmaster on a toy name since 1993. They keep calling homages to Mixmaster in other lines by the name Quickmix (the Universe Constructicons 2004), or leaving Mixmaster out of the set (like Classics 2007). I'm hoping maybe they got permission to use something like "Decepticon Mixmaster" Mathewignash (talk) 12:15, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lots on focus on the Decepticons eh

There seems to be a lot of attention going onto the bad guys here(granted it may have something to do with me being a bit messy(doing loads of links at once wasnt such a great idea) Behellmorph (talk) 20:09, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What? Alientraveller (talk) 21:08, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It's not like there's all of a sudden a huge flood of information on the Decepticons with no attention being paid to the Autobots, if that's what you mean. In the last week there's been confirmation of Mudflap and Skids as the Trax and Beat, and Wheelie for the Autobots; the names of the individual Constructicons and the Audi R8 were confirmed for the Decepticons. I wouldn't call that undue attention to the Decepticons, just adding new characters as they've been revealed, which has been pretty much the standard for this article since day 1.AristosRietze (talk) 08:39, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
What should be done regarding Barricade and Sideways. A lot of people believe Barricade renames himself and becomes Sideways. If this revelation is revealed to be true, how would this effect the two characters and their respective articles? Would the two characters be kept in their separate articles or fused into one, or would it be like how Megs and Galvatron are the same characters as they have different articles - but this is only important if Barricade and Sideways are the same person. Evilgidgit (talk) 22:35, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
If fact come out in the film on the two characters being one then the articles would probably be merged under the latest name of the character, but until it's proved it's just fan speculation and probably isn't worthy of mention. Mathewignash (talk) 23:51, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wheeljack

can anyone confirm he will be in the movie as an Saab Aero-X AcesUpMaSleeve (talk) 00:25, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Doubt it. Mathewignash (talk) 03:50, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. Near as I can tell nothing has changed since this was last discussed (See archive). Oosh (talk) 05:35, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hey

This is Jal11497 speaking. Hey, who erased my addition? After all, Ian Bryce is one of the producers of both films. But why take off the other executive producers? Come On! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jal11497 (talk • contribs)

I created an article for Ian Bryce and linked him, but listing all of them is indiscriminate. Alientraveller (talk) 13:19, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What's an SS?

Since it was asked.. the 2010 Chevy Camaro SS seems to be a final production version of the car, not the mock up prototype of the car which Bumblebee was in the first film. [2] Mathewignash (talk) 20:42, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Interesting, should be implemented. Alientraveller (talk) 21:31, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Fallen and teaser trailer

Interesting, as it might explain The Fallen's nature and how he's portrayed in this film: Did anyone notice in the teaser how The Fallen seems to "appear" in a bolt of lighting when confronting the American desert troops? I understand the character, especially in regards to his description in this article, is somewhat of a Lucifer inspired being, but does he have any cosmic powers not listed here? I'm wondering if the Facebook fan club trailer is different than the main website, so here is the link: http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/video/video.php?v=1094345163819 Veracious Rey (talk) 21:59, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Veracious, long time no see! :D It's been speculated the Fallen can teleport or has a cloaking device, but that's not appropriate to the article for now. In the comics and it seems in the film, he's a fiery being though. Alientraveller (talk) 22:08, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
How have you been Alien? Yeah, I kind of see my self as someone who throws a few tidbits towards the article once and a while, and lets everyone else sort it out :) If the speculation is true, Fallen should be an exciting addition to the film. Kudos to you and others who have made this an excellent article. Veracious Rey (talk) 23:29, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

megatron

so is he in the film as a tank or not i dont get it AcesUpMaSleeve (talk) 04:08, 22 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ http://www.transformersclub.com/toyfair09/TFmainline09.html
  2. ^ http://www.superchevy.com/features/camaro/sucp_0809w_2010_camaro_ss/index.html
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