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June 9

Create Biography

How to create a Biography? —Preceding unsigned comment added by USMC2007 (talk • contribs) 01:08, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. TNXMan 02:27, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Page move gone wrong. Please help!

Ok to start off, I just want to say that I was not the user who did this. A user with good intentions who was trying to move the article Church of God (Anderson) to Church of God (Anderson, Indiana), but made a mistake when moving the page. He/she mispelled the name so moving the article to Church of God (Church of God (Anderson, Indiana). As anyone can see this can't stay this way. I was attempting to move it to the correct title, but I discovered that Church of God (Anderson, Indiana) already existed as a redirect to the article.

So my question is, how do I move an article to a redirect that already exists? If anyone can tell me how please do, or if you know what you are doing and have time by all means do yourself. Thanks. Ltwin (talk) 05:42, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

I deleted the middle redirect under WP:CSD#R3 as an improbably redirect. It looks like the Church of God (Anderson) now redirects directly to Church of God (Anderson, Indiana) without any problems. I hope that helps! --Jayron32.talk.contribs 05:51, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks alot. Ltwin (talk) 06:03, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

eteeap policies for recruitment and admission

hi, good afternoon i spending to long time to find the answer to my problem can u help me about this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tadski (talk • contribs) 06:21, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

This page is for questions about editing Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. -Optigan13 (talk) 06:25, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Solid Axles

How do differential action acts in an axle ? How differential lock performs and what they actually do to a differential and how and in what process? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Piku komal (talk • contribs) 07:39, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

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login account lost?

I forgot my password and chose the email password option but I did not get the email. My username is Kifo. I even got a password reminder in november last year. What can I do now? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.255.210.207 (talk) 10:07, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Did you change email accounts in the mean time? If you got a password reminder last year, then why not use it to pull the password and access your account? (P.S. Check your email spam filter and trash can, sometimes email programs mistake password reminders as spam when they previously didn't. - 131.211.211.13 (talk) 10:24, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

The password reminder from Nov last year is no longer working. I am on Google mail and there is no password email in my spam mail folder.

Annoying mobile redirection...

I see that Wiki automatically redirects my iPhone to the mobile site 'http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/::Home' Furthermore, when I click on 'View this page on regular Wikipedia' it redirects me back to the mobile site. I have tried setting the User Agent in my Windows XP Safari to 'Mobile Safari 2.2.1 -- iPhone' and am redirected to the mobile page as before. However, this time the 'View this page...' works just fine.

Please, please, can we have a URL that will always bring up the Main Page.

One of the main reasons for having and iPhone is that the Web can be used in the same way as from the desktop. I do not want to use the mobile sites.

Would it not be possible to recognise that the browser is the iPhone Safari and therefore do not redirect the URL?

Many thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Farfett (talk • contribs) 10:52, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Mobile site. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 11:03, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

want to join

sir,i am an Indian citizen and i am 25 years old. Can i join French army if what will be the procedure??

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procedure to obtain an oekotex certificte for apparel garment

pls let me knoew the total system to obtain an oeko tex certificate for apparel garment? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.212.109.210 (talk) 11:30, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

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Same file name

• I am having difficulties to put this commons [1] image on en.wiki because the same file name on en.wiki already existed, please see File:Nicol David.jpg. How on earth can this happen ? Arteyu ? _{Blame it on me !} 12:45, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

The English Wikipedia and Commons have independent files. If an image name exists in both places then only the English Wikipedia version can be displayed in articles here. See Help:Images and other uploaded files#File name. You can change the name at Commons. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:11, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Advice on request to remove a photo

I'm looking for advice on how to respond to this request for removal of a photo. I know that Wikipedia is not obligated to remove it -- it's correctly licensed and provides a good illustration for several articles -- but it could probably be replaced without too much trouble; there is no reason these articles need to be illustrated with this particular person. It's unlikely to generate much discussion on that talk page, so I'm trying to figure out where to go for advice on this? Thanks, cmadler (talk) 14:18, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

There seem to be two separate issues here: whether to delete photo altogether, or just remove it from certain articles.

• Deleting the photo seems unwarranted. See WP:CENSOR. If Wikipedia deleted everything that bothers somebody somewhere, we wouldn't have much of an encyclopedia left. For example, we have Depictions of Muhammad that bother a billion Muslims a lot more.
• You can illustrate an article with a photo of someone else, although in my opinion the case is weak even for doing this (see WP:NOTMEMORIAL which applies to the inverse case of memorializing non-notable people, and illustrates Wikipedia's lack of special concern for the sensitivities of the recently bereaved). To look for alternatives:
  • See Commons:Category:American Civil War Reenactment
  • Search for more free photos with {{Flickr free}}:
    • Search Flickr for images with the keywords: civil war reenactment under these licenses: cc-by or cc-by-sa - that finds hundreds of photos

See Commons:COM:EIC#Flickr for instructions on how to upload images from Flickr to Commons. I documented a complete example of uploading an image with the Flinfo tool. Regardless of the outcome of this case, if you are interested in the subject of reenactment, you could upload a lot of nice images from Flickr and help the project. --Teratornis (talk) 20:19, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestions; I am not going to change the illustrations myself, but have suggested to the inquirers that they could both acheive their goal and help Wikipedia by finding and uploading a better image for these articles. Thanks, cmadler (talk) 20:34, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Sign Talk page automatically

Why isn't this automatic? Shouldn't MediaWiki know the difference between an article page and a talk page, and append a signature automatically in a talk page? How many hours have been spent encouraging and reminding new users to do something that a computer can do for us?--Sphilbrick (talk) 14:36, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

SineBot does just that, but it is a bot not part of the MediaWiki software. – ukexpat (talk) 15:12, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

And that's why slakr is awesome. However, it doesn't catch every single comment. hmwithτ 20:29, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

And remarkable as it may seem, some users specifically opt out of having their unsigned posts automatically signed. See Category:Wikipedians who have opted out of automatic signing. (No, I don't understand this either.) Thus if automatic signing became part of the MediaWiki software, some people would object. As far as spending hours encouraging and reminding new users, it's usually enough to put the {{Unsigned}} template after their unsigned posts (if for some reason SineBot doesn't do it automatically), which displays a link to a document page that will teach the new users what to do. If new users cannot learn by picking up clues and reading the friendly manuals, they aren't likely to get very far on Wikipedia. Plus I like using the {{Unsigned}} template because it's less personal - it doesn't give the new user the feeling of having been corrected by another person. People tend to feel less bothered when corrected by a machine, because nobody feels socially inferior to a computer. --Teratornis (talk) 20:32, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

For completeness, I might mention the variant template {{Unsigned2}} which is more convenient since it does not require reversing the order of the time and user name from the history. --Teratornis (talk) 20:37, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

How do I properly attribute my information to another article?

It says I am violating copyright laws, but I am citing the source for every sentence. How can I correctly attribute the information to this website? http://www.michigan.gov/dhs/0,1607,7-124-5459_7097-174062--,00.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheRossmanGroup (talk • contribs) 16:30, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia cannot accept material that is copied and pasted from another website. If you look at the page in question, at the bottom, it states "Copyright © 2001-2007 State of Michigan". Since the material is copyrighted, we cannot use it. TNXMan 16:33, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

As a further note, you could re-write the info in your own words and cite the page as a source. Also, this page may be of use. TNXMan 16:38, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Citing sources is a remedy for plagiarism, not copyright violation. As Tnxman307 notes, rewrite in your own words, but still reference, to note the source of the concepts.--Sphilbrick (talk) 17:44, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

microsoft medications for bert sugarman

please tell me how I can retrieve my list of medications that were placed on 4-15-09 when i had a Dell computer.

I now have an IMAC> Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.202.37.13 (talk) 16:58, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Have you tried the computing section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. – ukexpat (talk) 17:00, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

(edit conflict) I'm sorry, but this help desk is questions about using Wikipedia. We have no way of retrieving info from your old computer. Someone at the computing reference desk may be able to help you. TNXMan 17:01, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

To histmerge or not to histmerge

Resolved

 –  – ukexpat (talk) 01:59, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I'd been casually helping out a new user with the new article John of Arderne, but have since noticed that we already have the more substantial John Arderne, and the newer article should be merged and redirected. Reading a question at RfA recently made me wonder whether this is a case for a histmerge. There's little from John of Arderne that's likely to make it into the target article, but do we need to preserve what edits we have for GFDL purposes? Or am I overthinking this? Gonzonoir (talk) 17:39, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

I'd say go ahead and redirect John of Arderne to John Arderne. All the edits to the former will remain in its history, and if any material from it is added to John Arderne, simply indicating "information merged to John Arderne" and "information merged from John of Arderne" (with the wikilinks) in the edit summaries will ensure GFDL compliance. Deor (talk) 18:18, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Deor. I thought I was probably overcomplicating this. Gonzonoir (talk) 18:49, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Duplicate title, different info/person

I would like to contribute a biographical article about a jazz musician named Steve Hobbs. There is already a wikipedia article entitled "Steve Hobbs" about a congressman from the midwest (I think). How do I create anothwer article about a different Steve Hobbs? Thanks. Slappy645 (talk) 19:12, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:Disambiguation. Someguy1221 (talk) 19:31, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

creating a new topic

how will I create a new topic and post it for general view?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.95.42.99 (talk • contribs)

You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. – ukexpat (talk) 20:22, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

What do you want to write about? --Teratornis (talk) 01:30, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

List_of_Jewish_actors

I seem to have a problem reverting a particular edit. The history of the problem was that I made an edit earlier this week which was marked as Vandalism and deleted by another user. I don't want to enter into an edit war with the user, but my intention was made clear on the talk page for the article for two months prior to the edit allowing him or any other user an opportunity to object. I subsequently left him a message on his talk page asking him to discuss the reasons for his reversion which he has failed to do. So I sought to return the article to the format it was in before his editing - but every time I re-enter the content the server returns a http 500 error and fails to update the page. Is there something specifically wrong that I need to address in order to return it to the earlier state? I should add that the mass of formatting I had to do to fix the inherent problems in the previous article was all tested in Sandbox5 and successfully submitted both there and in the original edit of the article but can't be submitted since his reversion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.254.217.49 (talk) 21:18, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Update, got an error page this time (reverting to an even older edit) this messgae reads: Request: POST http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=List_of_Jewish_actors&action=submit, from 149.254.217.61 via knsq7.knams.wikimedia.org (squid/2.7.STABLE6) to 91.198.174.14 (91.198.174.14)

Error: ERR_READ_TIMEOUT, errno [No Error] at Wed, 10 Jun 2009 06:36:43 GMT

So Wikipedia is Proxying the connection but the timeout on the connection is too slow - is there anything that can be done to bypass the proxy or alter the timeout?149.254.217.61 (talk) 06:43, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Ah, I see you managed to make the changes. I suspect there's no way to avoid this problem, other than repeatedly trying until you aren't getting a timeout. From a look at the changes you made, the table seems like a good idea organisationally (although I don't know much about the subject in general). Unfortunately, an unregistered editor making significant changes to an article seems to raise red flags with some editors and bots for vandalism, although this was not the case here. The editor who reverted your changes doesn't seem to have edited since their reversion, so he/she may not be online and might not have seen your query yet. Needless to say, I think if no-one commented on your proposed change after two months, it was reasonable to go ahead with it; that's what we have bold-revert-discuss for after all, and your edit summary should clarify matters.

Perhaps, if you experience the same errors again, the people at the the technical village pump might be able to help. I suspect that due to the article's size, any future edits might run into the same problem. I wonder if there would be any value in splitting the article?--Kateshortforbob 11:05, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

yes thanks, it was a round-about way revert to the oldest (and smallest) of the articles and then remake any changes by other users between that and the final reversion. Splitting the Article is almost certainly required and I think a split on Nationality will be the best soloution but I was only casually interested in the article (looking for some information that I had difficulty locating in the old list) and saw the need for the change. I'm not currently commited enough to do all the work required to create the split. 13:10, 10 June 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.254.219.53 (talk)

Can't see the article I just wrote and saved ....

I created an account. logged in, and wrote an article titled Earthian Society.

When I search for the article, it comes up blank. When I log in to my account, and look at "my edits" there is nothing there. Where is my article?

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.185.217.149 (talk) 22:18, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

You are not logged in now. What account were you logged in to? —teb728 t c 22:50, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

We need this information. If the page was deleted then only administrators can see the edits in the contributions for the account. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:00, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I cannot find any article by the name of Earthian Society in the deletion logs. – ukexpat (talk) 03:23, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Ditto, I can't find one for Earthian Society, Earthian society, The Earthian Society, The Earthian society, or any other similar name. What was the exact title of the article? hmwithτ 11:29, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

If you provide your username, we can also find the exact title. hmwithτ 11:30, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Yaha. I've found User:Deejay52 which may be it. Can somebody else can answer the question, sorry I don't have time? - Jarry1250 ^{(t, c)} 17:02, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia has updated its search index since my first post. I guess that is how Jarry1250 found User:Deejay52. Is that you? The account has no deleted edits. If you log in to it and click "my contributions" then you should see Special:Contributions/Deejay52 which shows 3 edits to User:Deejay52. That is your user page and not an article. If the content was moved to an article like Earthian Society then it should be speedily deleted per WP:CSD#A7. As a user page it also risks being speedily deleted per WP:CSD#G11. If you want to write a real Wikipedia article then see Wikipedia:Your first article. But your organization does not appear to satisfy Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) and you have a conflict of interest so I recommend against it. See also Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:13, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Much of the content of your draft page is copied from the referenced external site, which is marked with a copyright notice. The Terms of Use page at that site does not grant a free license. So your draft page could also be deleted as a copyright violation. Please rewrite it in your own words. Also the edit summary of your first edit to your draft says, "This page should not be edited." Please note that all content on Wikipedia is subject to editing by anyone. —teb728 t c 00:58, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

June 10

[[File:Example.jpg]]

How to edit an image?

Trying to update an image already uploaded, but can't figure out how. No button or nothing. Help? Ericleb010 (talk) 01:54, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

You would have to upload a new version of the image but only autoconfirmed accounts can upload images to the English Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:22, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

(Sorry, was logged into wrong account) I'm autoconfirmed but what do I do? Just upload the image with the same file name using the upload form? Ericleb01 (talk) 02:29, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Click "Upload a new version of this file" near the bottom. If the image is at Commons then you may have to first view the description page there, for example by clicking a link saying "description page there". PrimeHunter (talk) 02:54, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

The only option I can find to edit anything is by doing it externally. Nothing else is available. And yes, it's at Commons. Ericleb01 (talk) 03:06, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Never mind, need the new account over at Commons to be 4 days old... thought it was somehow linked to my Wikipedia one. Ericleb01 (talk) 03:16, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

You can unify you Wikipedia and Commons accounts by heading over to WP:SUL. – ukexpat (talk) 03:21, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

New accounts can upload at Commons. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:34, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

They can't reupload, though. Algebraist 14:41, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Reference Desk for biz

I often see many queries on the Humanities Reference Desk that deal with business. Would it be practical to start a RefDesk specifically for businesses? Or is that too narrow a spectrum?--Ractogon (talk) 02:47, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

It sounds narrow to me. A better place to discuss would be Wikipedia talk:Reference desk. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:56, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

(EC)The best places to raise this issue are at Wikipedia talk:Reference desk and at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals). --Jayron32.talk.contribs 02:57, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I have posted a new section on both pages regarding the matter. Thanks for your replies!--Ractogon (talk) 21:23, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

delete wikipedia defamatory pages

After attempting a minor alteration to a wikipedia page, the page was quickly changed back and gave instructions to use the living persons notice board , which I never found after searching several areas? However, the problem is not simply altering the page, but the page should be removed or origin of proof needs to be included.

An example: John Seigenthaler: contained false and defamatory content/ upon contact wikipedia deleted the pages.

The current reference is Doctor Roberta Sykes which contains false and defamatory content without any reference to providing proof.

Please advise how the above page can be removed and protected from further defamation? 03:11, 10 June 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.101.175.35 (talk)

The WP:BLP experts hang out at WP:BLPN. For the moment I have tagged Bobbi Sykes with {{BLPunsourced}}. Your edits were also not very encyclopedic and equally unsourced.  – ukexpat (talk) 03:27, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

The unsourced tag is appropriate (currently), along with an explanation from the original contributor and sources, including proof of references. Additional historical information is accessable and verifiable to Wikipedia for Doctor Roberta Sykes-(aka-Bobbi Sykes) with confirmation from Wikipedia protection from any further defamatory depiction. Wikipedia: comment added by 220.101.175.35 (talk) 13:30, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

User's created pages

Is there a quick way to find out what pages a user has created, besides this tool? I know there must be, but for the life of me, I just can't find it. Sophus Bie ^(talk) 10:55, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Special:Preferences → Gadgets → Add page and user options to drop-down menus on the toolbar. When on a user page, you will have a User tab, hover over it and you will get several options including Contributions. See User:Haza-w/Drop-down menus for more info. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 11:13, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

However...

Thanks! (However, is there any way to find what articles they've started without JavaScript enabled?) Sophus Bie ^(talk) 11:23, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Certainly. Copy the user name, click on 'my contributions' at the top of the page, then paste the name into the URL over your name, then press enter. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 15:12, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

You don't even need to monkey around with the URL, just paste the user's name into the User box/field on the contributions page and hit the Search button. But note that both methods will show all the user's contributions, not just the pages they have created. – ukexpat (talk) 15:27, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

What I'm trying to achieve is a list composed only of the articles that a user has created, not edited. Is there a way to do that? Sophus Bie ^(talk) 15:28, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

It should work to use Special:Newpages and filter on user, but when I try I only get one or two results, not sure why it does not work?? --Stefan ^talk 07:36, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Random statement on user page refresh

I'm looking to see how I would go about creating a random statement on my user page everytime I refresh it from a set list of statements. I'm almost positive I'm going to have to invoke {{rand}} to accomplish this task, but i'm not sure how. Essentially I want to have a small database of statements that will display on my userpage differently each refresh

This is random statement 561 *refresh* This is random statement 12 *refresh* This is random statement 42

I'm sure it's a trivial matter but I haven't figured it out. Thanks.  :-)  Fyyer  12:53, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Try this:

This is random statement 0

You may have to purge or preview or edit the page to get a new random number. Otherwise you may just keep getting what Wikipedia has cached. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:53, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Yep that works. Thanks alot.  Fyyer  02:11, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Is it possible to contact an editor of a page so that we may collaborate on the information before publishing.

I would like to help contribute to a page on Lypkivsky. It was recently updated, so I know there is someone else interested in expanding the wiki page. I would like to know if it is possible to contact the other editors of the page so that we can collaborate before changing the current content. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shrekde (talk • contribs) 14:54, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

The best way to do this is to use the article's talk page. I'm not sure to which article you are referring, otherwise I would provide a link for you. However, you may find this page useful in learning about talk pages. TNXMan 14:57, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Do you mean this page? You can also leave a message on another user's talk page. If you look through the page's revision history you can see which editors did what. If you find someone you want to discuss things or collaborate with, you could then leave a message on that user's talk page. However, if it has to do with specifics in the article, it's probably best to discuss it on the article's page as Tnxman says so that others will be able to find it in the future. Leaving a note on a users talk page directing them to your comments on the article's talk page is another possibility. TastyCakes (talk) 15:01, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

See Help:Talk page and Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines. --Teratornis (talk) 18:11, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Emailing an article to a friend outside of Wikipedia from within Wikipedia

Is there an internal function within Wikipedia that I can use to "easily" email an article to a friend who hasn't signed up as a registered Wikipedia user? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dwinser (talk • contribs) 16:24, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't know of an internal function, but copying and pasting the link is one way of doing that. TNXMan 16:25, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Anyone can see article's on Wikipedia, so a simple link should suffice. Alternatively, you can generate a PDF version of the page and e-mail that. To do this open the article you inted to send and select "PDF version" under the "Toolbox" section on the left hand side of the screen. Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 16:29, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Image Uploaded to "Commons." Now what? How do I get it to the article I want?

Resolved

 –  – ukexpat (talk) 18:47, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I uploaded a picture that I took of my skin tag (File:Skintagonrightfemalebreastac.JPG) to the Commons Page. I want it posted on the article for "Skin Tags." I don't know how to do this, & I'm tired of looking at the help pages that I can't seem to find help. Could someone please upload this to the page for me? I'm computer illiterate, & am surprised I managed to get as far as I did. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

AC —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amy Crow (talk • contribs) 17:09, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Hi Amy, it all looks OK to me - the image is in Commons, but it's also replicated here. You can include it in articles simply by using [[File:Skintagonrightfemalebreastac.JPG]]. You can see the image in Wikipedia [[:File:Skintagonrightfemalebreastac.JPG|here]]. You've probably already seen Wikipedia:Images, but that has more details on using images in articles, including thumbnails, sizing, etc.

Cheers, This flag once was red^propaganda_deeds 17:20, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I've added it to the page for you, as you seemed to be requesting that someone would do that, see here: Acrochordon for the code I used, all the best Spitfire^Tally-ho! 17:23, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Oops, apologies for not doing that myself - I got sidetracked once I worked out the image had been uploaded OK. Cheers, This flag once was red^propaganda_deeds 17:53, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks so much! The article looks great! I hope my image is useful for someone doing research on this. I wish my camera had focused closer, but I took it of myself, & it was kinda hard to do. Anyway, I'm rambling. Thanks for uploading the pic to the article! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amy Crow (talk • contribs) 18:38, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I have a personal anecdote to share about the late actor David Carradine

It's factual but just an anecdote.

Should I post in on Wikipedia? If so, where? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.167.3.21 (talk) 17:20, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

No, sorry, but everything on wikipedia must be verifiable via reliable sources, but thanks a lot for asking first, that shows a degree of prudence, all the best Spitfire^Tally-ho! 17:27, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, we don't allow original research. hmwithτ 19:57, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Quick question

Does anyone know what I might have done here and why nothing odd actually appeared on the noticeboard? TNXMan 17:48, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

At a guess, you accidentally subst'ed {{UAA}} instead of transcluding it. This also broke it, I think. - Jarry1250 ^{(t, c)} 17:52, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Basing myself purely on the code you showed, i assume you placed a template but did not subst it? It seems to be a code that substitures the template for the correct message. EG: If the parameter for the template would be "S" it would place a notice that the user should go to WP:SSP, while an "A" would substitute for an "Report to Ani" template. Nothing weird appeared because the template is still correctly substituting the "Wait till user edits" template as it should Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 17:55, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Hmm. I bet I subst'ed on accident. Thanks for the assist. TNXMan 17:59, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Public Domain

How do I find out if 'Trucker Girl" is Public Domain? Thank you! Lara Riedel —Preceding unsigned comment added by LaraRiedel (talk • contribs) 19:06, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry but you question is not clear - are you talking about an image, a website, a publication? – ukexpat (talk) 19:15, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I want to upload a picture for Richard Krawiec, how do I do it?

Resolved

 –  – ukexpat (talk) 21:04, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I have the permission but I don't know at all how to upload.Rich PetersonRich (talk) 19:35, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

See Help:Images and other uploaded files. hmwithτ 19:54, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

However, if it is a copyrighted image and the copyright holder gave you permission to use the image, you need send proof of that to OTRS. See more information at Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission. hmwithτ 19:55, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

So, do I need to join wikimedia commons to get it uploaded?75.45.106.99 (talk) 19:58, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Not necessarily - if you own the copyright, please upload to Commons (go to WP:SUL to unify accounts). If someone else owns the copyright and is releasing it for use on Wikipedia, it should be uploaded here and the process at WP:IOWN followed to release it. – ukexpat (talk) 20:05, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks75.45.106.99 (talk) 20:25, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Couple of points - you will need to log in and your account must be autoconfirmed (10 edits and 4 days old) before you can upload here on Wikipedia. There are no autoconfirmation requirements on Commons. – ukexpat (talk) 21:02, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Editing an Article for a different meaning but with the same name...

Hi,

I tried to edit an article earlier today. The article is 'After the Ordeal' which is a song by rock band 'Genesis'. After The Ordeal is also the name of my rock band and I wanted to add an article about us as we have mentions on other article (i.e. music festivals) but no link to information about us. I added my edit underneath the origianl article and it appeared at first but has since dissapeared. I would just like to know how to go about keeping it there, or how to start a seperate article but with the same name.

Thanks,

Gaz ATO

--Gaz ATO (talk) 21:18, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

See WP:DISAMBIG. hmwithτ 21:28, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

The easiest way would be to simply click here: After The Ordeal (band) and start editing. However, having done a little research, it may seem as if your band may not meet the relevant guideline for inclusion (WP:MUSIC). If this is indeed the case, the article is likely to be deleted shortly after its creation. decltype (talk) 21:49, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Problem with formatting of footnotes

Hi, I included a second separate section for explanatory notes for Magdalena Neuner. I used this template {{#tag:ref|...|group="note"}}, because references can't be nested and I also wanted to give a source. Now I can't figure out a way how to use the same footnote twice (something comparable to the 'ref name=' function for normal references). Maybe someone knows an easy way to do this. EnemyOfTheState_|talk 22:36, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

If you use the {{ref}} and {{note}} templates you can do -

Someone once said something.^[a] Later they did something else.^[b]. It was later found that they did the first thing wrong.^[c]

Notes

• ^{a c} The thing they said was important, but it wasn't true.
• ^b This thing was really boring.

References

Hope that helps somewhat. Nanonic (talk) 00:58, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Yep, that would work. Thanks. EnemyOfTheState_|talk 19:52, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

June 11

Improper category listings in article

Resolved

 –  – ukexpat (talk) 01:00, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

If I find several category tags in an article which are completely inappropriate for the article, do I just remove them and note why in the edit summary? Or do I have to go to a board somewhere and make a case for why they should be removed?

As a corollary question - if deleting the inappropriate category tags will leave the article with no associated categorization, is that okay? Or do I have to find a category that would be appropriate and leave it in the place of what is removed? Thanks. --Garyww67 ^{☎ ☸} 00:37, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

As to the first, be bold. Generally, for any edit that doesn't appear controversial, do it and then if someone reverts you discuss it. As to the second, it's up to you, but the more you can help, the better. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 00:42, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you!--Garyww67 ^{☎ ☸} 00:52, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

using interwikis as sources

Resolved

Wikipedia:Verifiability#Self-published_sources_.28online_and_paper.29 clearly says that we are not allowed to use Wikipedia as a source. Where does it mention anything about interwikis? Debresser (talk) 01:46, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

The concept of a "wiki" means that no Wiki can be considered a reliable source. Reliability requires editorial control; that is that material is vetted, edited, peer reviewed, or otherwise goes through an indepth process to ensure accuracy and reliability. The nature of all Wikis is that they are instantly changable and have zero editorial control. That is why Wikis cannot be considered reliable. Its no different in this regard than a web forum or a blog. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 02:25, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

(e/c) When you say interwikis, may I assume you mean foreign language Wikipedias (and other Wikimedia projects)? If so, the link you provide says to avoid "self-published media" and includes "open wikis" in that list. All other language Wikipedias are open wikis. While it does have this specificity, we come to the same result without it. We should use "reliable sources", meaning "sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy". That is certainly not true of en.Wikipedia in general, nor its foreign brethren (though much of our best content is fairly reliable). Note also that in general we favor secondary sources over tertiary source such as encyclopedias. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:32, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

I didn't know the meaning of the term "open wikis", it turns out. Thank you. Debresser (talk) 02:34, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Booker T. Washington High School

How do I include a school that is not listed on the Booker T. Washington School page? 96.241.167.45 (talk) 03:06, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

I added a heading - I assume this is the article that you are referring to. Edit the article to add the school to the list using similar formatting to the existing entries. – ukexpat (talk) 03:41, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

arch corses

wat is the difference between b.arch and b.tech arch corses —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.92.7.23 (talk) 05:25, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 2.8 million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the online free encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If that is not fruitful, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. —teb728 t c 06:39, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

This page is for questions about editing Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 07:14, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Tool to find a Wikipedian's contributions to one article

Is there a tool that I can use to find a Wikipedian's (mine in particuler) contributions to one particular article? Using the article's edit history is not practical, because one that I am thinking of is very actively edited, and my edits started a few years ago. I don't see a way to filter my contributions or sort by page name. Finell (Talk) 05:37, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

This tool gives one's edit count for an article (just replace "Pennsylvania" with the article you want), but that's just your edit count for an article, if you want to see your contributions filtered, I'm not really sure how to do that. AlexiusHoratius 05:53, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

You can also try User:AmiDaniel/WhodunitQuery, but not really what I think you want. Think there is a web tool for what you want, but can not find it now. --Stefan ^talk 06:41, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm adding User:AmiDaniel/WhodunitQuery to my tool box for other reasons (thanks!), but I'm still looking for a way to do what I originally asked, if anyone can suggest something. Finell (Talk) 18:54, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Sub Page

Resolved

Hello Fellow Wikipedians!

Losing my mind over a certain question. Any help would be appreciated.

I saved an article on my Userpage yesterday. I think I was supposed to use a Subpage instead.

Can't seem to find my way to a Subpage to enter the article information there.

Please help.

Note: The "Move" option does not appear either. I made 11 changes and have had the account for over 4 days.

Thank you.

- Mares

Maresborrego (talk) 07:36, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

I moved the article to User:Maresborrego/Edward Paul Reyes for you; I assume that is the title where it should be? As for moving a page: The "Move" tab should be visible on top of the page, on the right side of the history tab. Personally i can only see 7 edits made trough this account, which could be the reason why you can not move a page yet. 3 more edits, and you should be a-ok to do this yourself :) Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 07:53, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

admission in engineering college

can i get admission in college of engineering and technology chandigarh in electronics as i have got 42229 rank in aieee. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.245.71.122 (talk) 10:05, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

This page is for questions about editing Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 10:21, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Please contact your preferred college or university. E Wing (talk) 10:46, 11 June 2009 (UTC

CITY College, Affiliated Institution of Sheffield, Thessaloniki-page deleted

Hello and good day!

I am registered under name Floropoulou at Wikipedia, and in the behalf of CITY College, Affiliated University of Sheffield, Thessaloniki I was in charge for main information about CITY College at Wikipedia.

I approached the page 2 weeks ago in order to see some information and everything was OK.

But now I can see that the page is not longer there, it has been deleted, but without any information nor any explanation.

Please can you help me with this issue in order to bring back the page of CITY College, Affiliated Institution of Sheffield, Thessaloniki? Please, be kind to reply me ASAP, because this is of high importance for our university.

Many thanks in advance and sorry for disturbing but this matter is very important for our University.

Best regards, Floropoulou —Preceding unsigned comment added by Floropoulou (talk • contribs) 10:36, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Basing myself on the deletion log, the page was deleted under the CSD guideline, section G11. This means that the page was deemed to be an advertisement for the subject, rather then being an encyclopedic article. Deletion under the CSD guideline implies that an article in a shape that would require a full rewrite of the article, rather then simple modifications to be compliant to our guidelines.

As for bringing the article back, i would suggest rewriting it in accordance to our policies, and in specific Notability, Verifiability and Neutral point of view guidelines. I also urge you to read WP:COI as your position gives you an inherent conflict of interest with the article's subject. Editing article's while having a CoI is strongly discouraged, and in some times even prohibited. I hope this helps, Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 11:13, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Signature help?

Resolved

I want to change the color of my signature. Right now it's this: Aditya ^α _ß . I want it to be in this colour: #000080. I've tried adding <font color="#000080"> and </font> at the end but it doesn't seem to work. Any idea why? Thanks. Aditya ^α _ß 12:21, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Use it inside the link, like this:

'''[[User:Aditya|<font color="#000080">Aditya</font>]]'''

Which will produce: Aditya

Hope that helps :) Chamal ^talk 12:30, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

It makes the code huge, but it works! Thanks for the help. Aditya^α _ß 12:35, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Tom Van Flandern?

I tried to close this case as it had had no activity since April. Did I close it correctly? Ecw.Technoid.Dweeb | contributions | talk | ☮✌☮ 13:06, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Looks OK to me. I would just leave a note in the comments section indicating why you closed it. TNXMan 13:26, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Classification as a stub?

I am working on a page with the subject of a school as a subpage of my userpage. One time when I went to edit this page, I noticed it had been classified as a stub. Is this allowed by procedure? Or, to put it in a less confusing, and more general way, Are articles under construction in user subpages allowed to be classified as regular articles? The page in question is here. Poker5463 (talk) 13:53, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Such tags should be regarded as hints as to problems existing with the current version, rather than as condemnations. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:23, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

But should they be added to pages in user space? I think not, because if they are they add the subpage to the stub category and that isn't appropriate for user space pages. – ukexpat (talk) 14:33, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Ukexpat has the exact thing I'm talking about, but I was not sure whether or not this is right. this is aarticle, but not in the main space. I am not sure at all on this discussion. It seems to be as if it is an article, but it is not in the article page for this topic. Poker5463 (talk) 15:16, 11 June 2009 (UTC) - sorry, i meant that Ukexpat has the major topic. I am attempting to discern, from users more experienced than I, whether or not this tag belong's on my user subpage. Poker5463 (talk) 15:22, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

User pages are distinct from articles. If a particular message template and its corresponding category only pertain to articles, then I would think a subpage should not display the template nor categorize into the category. The idea for the category is to guide other editors to articles that need work, whereas the point of making a user subpage is to allow one user to work on something for a while before opening it up to other users. The template in question appears to be {{school-stub}}. WP:STUB says: "A stub is an article containing only a few sentences of text which is too short to provide encyclopedic coverage of a subject, but not so short as to provide no useful information." As a second issue, I would say User:Poker5463/Dutchess Day School in its current revision is already looking too long to be a stub. The goal on Wikipedia is for stub templates to be only temporary, so you would remove the template if your page was a real article when it grew to start class - which is about where it looks to be now. See {{grading scheme}}. --Teratornis (talk) 19:16, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Lyrics Pages

I have been curious as to why there are no links from songs on wiki to the full and correct lyrics...is there a legal reason for this or it has just not been done? If it can be done how should I/all the other users of wiki go about correcting this. It seems that as useful as wiki is for looking up information on artists/songs the correct lyrics should also be kept here.Ewrenn256 (talk) 14:27, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Copyright, mostly. WP:LYRICS has more detail, but basically it's copyright. In cases where copyright has expired Wikisource would be a better location, with a link to Wikisource in the article here in Wikipedia.

Cheers, This flag once was red^propaganda_deeds 14:30, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

You are free to put external links in that direct to a page that does not violate copyright, for instance, some artists post the lyrics to their songs on their offical site's, so its fine to link to these, but otherwise external links to copyright violations should be avoided. All the best Spitfire^Tally-ho! 14:36, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

where to comment

Where should I go to comment on an admin's deletion of a user page and history? Thanks. --Rajah (talk) 15:23, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

I would suggest discussing the issue with the admin in question first. If you still have questions, there is a place to review deletions or an admin's noticeboard. TNXMan 15:42, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Bot for searching

Where can I find a bot that only grabs pages and searches text inside? For example, I have a list of 50 articles, and I want to see which ones contain „string”. Thanks Ark25 (talk) 15:28, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

I think that WP:BOTREQ can help you with this - it is actually an really easy task to program a bot with those capacities. Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 16:20, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Romanian Map

I've used the Romanian map to do a short movie for my College partners:

[2]

Don't know if it's useful but the movie can be remade if someone finds it useful. Thanks! --TudorTulok (talk) 17:41, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Did you use a non-freely licensed song in the soundtrack? --Teratornis (talk) 18:51, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Both music fragments are composed by me. Does it change something? --TudorTulok (talk) 19:02, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

WP:EL says Wikipedia should not link to external pages that contain copyright violations. If you plan to distribute creative works for other people to use freely, see Creative Commons to familiarize yourself with how to license your works to make your permission explicit. Otherwise by default everything is under copyright of its creator(s) and other people are unsure of their legal basis to re-use someone else's work. Incidentally, the video you made appears to use the map in a purely artistic way. However, Wikipedia needs more animated maps to display encyclopedic content. For example, see:

• File:United States installed wind power capacity animation 561px.gif
• Commons:Category:Animated maps of the United States
• Commons:Category:Animated maps

Using animated maps to display statistical data for a nation or region may seem somewhat boring, but this is an encyclopedia, so boring is what we do. --Teratornis (talk) 19:29, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

You may find these other pages interesting, or not:

• Commons:Commons:Meet our illustrators
• Commons:Commons:Meet our photographers
• Commons:Commons:Audio and video requests
• Commons:Help:Converting video

--Teratornis (talk) 19:35, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for all these, I am clarified with the utility of my map show. --TudorTulok (talk) 23:05, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Checking articles created by user

Is there any way to get full lists of articles created by Wikipedia users (for example by me)? Mikael Häggström (talk) 18:53, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

There sure is. Just follow this link. TNXMan 18:55, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! But then, how to make it not truncate the list to just the 100 most recent ones, even with redirects excluded? Mikael Häggström (talk) 04:59, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

creating a page

I created a page, or so I thought, and now it isn't showing up anywhere...what did I do wrong? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.158.173.66 (talk) 19:06, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

If you created an article you must have a user account, so log into that account and the article should be listed in you user contributions, unless it has been speedily deleted. What was the name of the article? – ukexpat (talk) 19:10, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Discussing further with user on talk page. – ukexpat (talk) 20:19, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

{{Cell wall disruptive antibiotics}}

Would a template expert please take a look at this one - there are # characters scattered around it and I can't figure out if they are supposed to be there or are editing errors. Thanks. – ukexpat (talk) 19:18, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

There is a legend at the bottom of the template that gives a meaning for the # character. Perhaps moving the legend line to the top of the template would make this confusion less likely. --Teratornis (talk) 19:37, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

I made a suggestion on the template talk page. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 19:47, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Ah, OK now it makes sense. There must be a better character to use than #, maybe an asterisk? Heading to talk page to suggest. – ukexpat (talk) 20:09, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Bakugan Editing

Hello - I work for Spin Master the maker of Bakugan. We have being trying to edit the Bakugan Battle Brawler Wikipedia page and update it with the newest information but, for some reason it keeps getting taken down - it alerts me with "edit conflict". We are much reliable than who ever is doing this so if you could get back to me and let me know how to stop this that would be great.

Thanks so much,

Campbell Courteau Public Relations Assistant Spinmaster Ltd. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spinningtoys (talk • contribs) 20:06, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

An edit conflict is when two people try to edit a page at the same time, the user you have had a conflict with did not do so on purpose, see Help:Edit conflict if you want to learn more. However, we generally strongly advise that you do not edit articles pertaining to a company that you work for or that you founded, please re-introduce the material after reading: WP:COI, WP:SPAM and WP:BFAQ, if you are still satisfied that your additions are unbiased and that they are fully referenced you may read them, thank you, all the best Spitfire^Tally-ho! 20:11, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Please read WP:COI. The best thing to do is make suggestions for improvements on the article's talk page to gain consensus from other editors. – ukexpat (talk) 20:09, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

As ukexpat says, if you are unsure of the edits, you can suggest them on the articles talk page, Spitfire^Tally-ho! 20:13, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

It appears that you have a conflict of interest with the subject. Wikipedia is not about promoting a product or event. It looks to me like that is why your edits have been reverted by another editor. Edits must be verifiable, written from a neutral point of view, and reliably sourced. I hope this answers your question. Wperdue (talk) 20:14, 11 June 2009 (UTC)wperdue

PDF won't appear

I tried to get a PDF version of National Register of Historic Places listings in Champaign County, Ohio by clicking the "PDF version" in the toolbox of the page, but time and time again I get an error message:

POST request failed

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search The POST request to http://pdf1.wikimedia.org:8080/mw-serve/ failed (Operation timed out after 3000 milliseconds with 0 bytes received).

Return to Main Page.

The first few words, "POST request failed", are a header, in the same spot and format as "Wikipedia:Help desk" is here. Any idea what I can do to make this work? I'm about to be out of town for a while without Internet access (thus was I trying to download the PDF), so if anyone has a reply, please leave it at my talk page. Nyttend (talk) 20:07, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

I should note that I've been having trouble with PDFs in general — every time I try to download a certain book, it won't work. See details at my unanswered VP/T request. Nyttend (talk) 20:09, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Bug submitted as bug 19167http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19167. Glacier Wolf 00:23, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

June 12

Article renders incorrectly with Firefox

Hi, I made some changes to the references of Magdalena Neuner, including using the {{ref}} and {{note}} templates in the Notes section. The page seems to no longer render correctly for me, and I'm not sure what the problem might be. If I load the article with Firefox, the first time, the page is almost displayed correctly, except the last two references (77 & 78) are each spread over two columns. When I reload, the entire page is cut off after ref 76. Purging the cache does not help. The page loads correctly with IE. If I zoom in and out with Firefox, the page returns to normal. Also, the error only occurs at a resolution of 1680 x 1050, at 1280 Firefox displays the page correctly. I don't know if the problem is entirely on my end, maybe someone can take a look at it. EnemyOfTheState_|talk 02:08, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

I checked the page with Firefox, Chrome and IE at both 1680x1050 and 1280*768 and in every case the page renders correctly for me, including the last two references. Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 04:52, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I guess the wikicode is correct and the problem is with my browser apparently. EnemyOfTheState_|talk 05:20, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Table Problem

 Done I'm working on improving the Poker Hall of Fame article right now. I've added a table to the Membership section. If you click on the edit button there, you will see the syntax for membership. BUT the table does not appear until the end of the table. Any ideas on why this happens? I don't see anything wrong with the table syntax.---I'm Spartacus! ^{NO! I'm Spartacus!} 03:22, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Solved it on my own.---I'm Spartacus! ^{NO! I'm Spartacus!} 03:27, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh, you did it before me. Timmeh!_{(review me)} 03:30, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

It was driving me crazy and I couldn't see anything wrong... so I finally broke down to ask for help here... and immediately my question was answered... I saw the light... and voila... fixed it.---I'm Spartacus! ^{NO! I'm Spartacus!} 14:28, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Image Permission

I was granted permission to use photographs by the owners. I added them to an article. Later, the owner asked me to remove the images. I asked the owners to do the deletion. Am I required to do the deletion personally? —Preceding unsigned comment added by LAlawMedMBA (talk • contribs) 05:40, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

What images, and what were the licenses? For example, Creative Commons licenses are not revocable. --Teratornis (talk) 07:04, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

runtime error

I keep getting a sign "runtime error" and I lose whatever I am doing, because my computer closes down. I was told to go into run and type in msconfig, and shut down programs that are running. I dont know which ones I am suppose to shut down, because I dont know what they are. Can someone help me please —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.240.145.53 (talk) 06:15, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

This page is for questions about editing Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps.

And in specific: Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Computing. Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 06:40, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Hebat, and other unsourced speculative articles

Should I delete 99 percent of article, or propose it for deletion, or propose it for merging with Hurrian or what? I sense there is the nub of a good article here and wonder if the main author, possibly a guy named Christopher Siren, just needs a fire lit under him to get him to provide sources, and then Hebat could be a fine article.--But I also have been getting a horrible feeling that ancient mythology and ancient civilizations on wikipedia are getting screwed so badly we will soon be a worse laughingstock in libraries everywhere, with no credibility--I sense that a number of contributors with a knack for storytelling have been writing fairy tales in ancient Sumer, mythology, and no one is calling them on it. Well it's pretty late and im rambling but I hope someone will take my intuition seriously.Rich (talk) 08:27, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

I'd keep it, perhaps find a stub template to add to it so people know. --Kraftlos (Talk | Contrib) 08:46, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll try that.Rich (talk) 08:50, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

I found multiple mentions on non reliable sites, but i also got a hit in the Encyclopedia Brittanica , and in this document which is located on an .edu domain. At the very least i can conclude it is not a hoax article. Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 08:52, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Factual article always deleted, but others exist

I have tried on a few occasions to make an entry for a provider of ERP software and it is automatically deleted...even when only the facts of the company and its products are used...yet there are other such entries that are full of promotional material about their products within the same industry? How can I get this other company to be included in the same way. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Llandian (talk • contribs) 09:09, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

I assume this is due to the other entries having a seperate page establishing their Notability. The editor that removed your entry used the edit summary "rm redlink" which denoted that he or she removed it due to the lack of a wikipedia article to link to. Basing myself on the user page i noticed that Exel Computer Systems plc and Exel Computer Systems have been removed several times, most recently for failing to establish compliance to notability policies for businesses Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 09:15, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Also please note the process is not automatic, it is run by volunteers, Spitfire^Tally-ho! 09:27, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Please see What about article x?. In short, you should give little weight to the sheer fact that something else exists, because the way Wikipedia is a constant work in progress, and the way articles are and article content is assessed and removed in a non-centralized fashion, there are always tons of examples of pages and content which do/does exist but should not. So there is no precedential value that should be assigned to the existence.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:17, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

'Adult' picture on the Help Desk?

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When you go to WP:RFA, there's text at the top that says "WP:RFA" redirects here. You may be looking for requested articles, recently featured articles, requests for arbitration, or requests for assistance at Wikipedia:Help desk. If you have that article preview thing enabled (where you hover your mouse over a link and it previews the article) and you hover the cursor over Wikipedia:Help Desk, it shows this: File:Skintagonrightfemalebreastac.JPG picture. (Warning, not fit for work/school) Any idea why? Aditya ^α _ß 11:02, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

It's linked on this page (someone was trying to add it to a page, IIRC), so, lacking any other pictures, popups has associated it with this page and used it for the thumbnail. Nothing to worry about really. - Jarry1250 ^{(t, c)} 11:08, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Oops, it was me who added the link (and yes, an editor was trying to add it to a page - she didn't link to it here, that was solely me. I believe the issue is now resolved, so I'll un-link the image here. Cheers, This flag once was red^propaganda_deeds 11:14, 12 June 2009 (UTC)(Image un-linked and striked-through. This flag once was red^propaganda_deeds 11:16, 12 June 2009 (UTC))

It's still coming in the preview. Even after clearing my browser's cache. Anyway, never mind now. It's not of much consequence. Aditya ^α _ß 11:38, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm still seeing it too - not sure why? It's possible that the Wikimedia software creates its own cache of the first image on the page, and we need to wait for that cache to clear. For what its worth, the lesson I've learnt from this is - be very careful before adding an image to the Help desk ;-) Cheers, This flag once was red^propaganda_deeds 11:47, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

I used the API to purge the helpdesk, and i believe the picture does not show anymore. Can anyone conform it actually worked? Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 11:52, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Nope. Still shows. This is weird. =/ Aditya ^α _ß 12:09, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Popups apparently detects image "links" in nowiki tags. I added an earlier in [3] and that is now the displayed image. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:14, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

And it's gone! Woohoo! Aditya ^α _ß 12:25, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Aha! Another lesson learned: don't just <nowiki /> an image, remove it altogether, or add another image before it. Thanks, PrimeHunter! Cheers, This flag once was red^propaganda_deeds 14:32, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

link directly to a person rather than to the disambiguation page

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Hello,

I would like to create a link to "Tom Adams (musician)" within a Wikipedia article, rather than have the code Tom Adams take the user to the default page for Tom Adams. How do I create such a direct link? Thanks very much.E19S24cr (talk) 14:07, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Like this [[Tom Adams (musician)|Tom Adams]] which produces Tom Adams. That's a vertical bar in the middle (or "pipe") which is, for me at least, reachable via Shift + Backslash. Hope that helps, - Jarry1250 ^{(t, c)} 14:09, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Jarry1250 is right on spot here. To Broaden his answer: This form of linking works for more then just disambiguation pages. While linking in this manner anything left of the pipe is seen as the article to link to, while everything on the right is displayed as text. [[WP:HD|Tom Adams]] for example shows as Tom Adams, while actually linking to the help desk. Excirial ^{(Contact me,Contribs)} 14:14, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

(edit conflict) For more information, see WP:PIPE. - Jarry1250 ^{(t, c)} 14:18, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks very much for your help. E19S24cr (talk) 14:24, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

See also Help:Pipe trick for a faster way. If you type [[Tom Adams (musician)|]] and save then it's saved as [[Tom Adams (musician)|Tom Adams]] which produces Tom Adams. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:37, 12 June 2009 (UTC)