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I always see this in some cars and crash test dummies. The circle is divided into 4 parts, two quarters are gold/yellow while the others are black. What is it and what does it do?--121.54.2.188 (talk) 02:12, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Center of mass location markers ? Or, more generally, they can be used to note the location and rotation of any data point, as during crash studies. They are made to be highly visible so that they can be spotted in crash videos, even with dust and debris flying around. StuRat (talk) 02:15, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Google agrees, calling them calibration or target stickers, saying they are used to provide motion reference points when reviewing the footage and thus helping with interpretation of severity of movement. Nanonic (talk) 02:19, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've always found it slightly perverse that they give crash test dummies actual facial features. there's no scientific reason for it, of course. very strange... --Ludwigs202:45, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It would be more strange if they had globular heads without any suggestion of features, in my opinion. These things are not exactly life replicas. But I do see your point. Bus stop (talk) 05:48, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Second bugs - surely the facial features being notably like an average face would help to show (warning: major guess going on) say the likelihood of say your nose being broke by debris etc. 194.221.133.226 (talk) 09:38, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This seems to indicate that the entire face is considered as one area, although areas of the skull are each considered as separate areas from one another and separate from the face. Bus stop (talk) 10:28, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The reason for dummies having facial features may not be scientific. A Competitor dummy provider may have started providing dummies with facial features with same quality and no extra cost. manya (talk) 09:16, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
well, I'd be more liable to accept the semi-scientific reasons if there was some reason to believe that the dummy faces mimicked the physical properties of human faces. but there's no suggestion of an attempt to replicate eyes, nose, teeth, or etc in a realistic way (I suspect that dummy's nose would do more damage to the dashboard than vice-versa). knowing scientists, it may be that the first crash test dummies were featureless ball-heads, and the researchers started tacking on pictures of ex-wives, bosses, academic rivals. scientists, I swear... like children with multi-million dollar toys... --Ludwigs209:32, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Bust of Nefertiti - authenticity
I read in an article in a newspaper that the famous bust of queen Nefertiti housed in a Berlin museum would in fact be a sculpture made in 1912. The claim was made by Swiss art historian Henri Stierlin.
How can such a claim be substantiated and is there any research undergone to proove the authenticity of the bust?
Thanks to any help you can bring me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brinvillier (talk • contribs) 05:08, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Dingoes are just feral domestic dogs, so the two questions are the same. Strangely, our article doesn't say anything about whether African hunting dogs can interbreed with domestics. It seems unlikely to me, but I'll search around for a better answer. Matt Deres (talk) 12:21, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
(ec)Our article on canid hybrids implies that they may be able to breed as they both have 78 chromosomes. Searches through Google books and scholar are not turning up anything definitive, but I still suspect that they likely cannot interbreed successfully. In cases like this, where the species is under a real threat of extinction, it's notable that no references provide information about the dangers from interbreeding with other canids. In fact inbreeding is a real problem at this point. If you or anyone else wishes to research further, please note that using the scientific name Lycaon pictus reduces the number of false hits on Google searches. Matt Deres (talk) 12:40, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, the science desk would be better suited, but I think we've actually got a pretty decent answer here already. --Tango (talk) 13:12, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I would expect not much as any carbon molocules the cigarette puts out would be carbon molecules that the tobacco plant previously removed from the atmosphere. Googlemeister (talk) 16:17, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It depends on how widely you consider the impacts. E.g. this link (http://www.greenlivingtips.com/articles/190/1/Tobaccos-environmental-impact.html) suggests that each year '600 million trees of forest are destroyed to provide wood to dry tobacco'. I suspect you're probably more interested in the impact of cigarette smoke on the environment (rather than the whole process) though, to which I couldn't find anything in my (admittedly short) search. ny156uk (talk) 17:07, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
One cigarette doesn't weigh much more than a gram, so presumably wouldn't produce more than a gram of smoke. Averaging fifteen a day (claimed by this site) Okay, I spent a while Googling before finding this website, which claims 6 million tons of tobacco is smoked per year. This is at least something to start with, if you're just trying to find out the effect of the smoke that smoking produces. I'm not sure what to do with that number, though. Vimescarrot (talk) 18:42, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ironically, smoking might even be good for the environment, if it kills off enough people to ease the environmental pressure caused by overpopulation. StuRat (talk) 18:56, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Not very useful, in the long term, if it doesn't get people before they reproduce. APL (talk) 02:21, 26 March 2010 (UTC) (Struck in view of Steve's math below.)[reply]
It does, however, kill off a lot of them before they can dip very heavily into Social Security. On the other hand, if all the previously uninsured smokers get health care now, that could negate the plusses. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 11:27, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Cecil Adams, very briefly covered this. Cecil Says:"U.S. smokers produce about 5,500 tons of particles and 78,500 tons of carbon monoxide annually. That sounds like a lot, but it's roughly 0.1 percent of U.S. totals for those pollutants. The real environmental issue here, in my opinion? The 357 billion cigarette butts."APL (talk) 02:21, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
To put things in some perspective, the Mount St. Helens article says "Over 1.5 million metric tons of sulfur dioxide were released into the atmosphere...it ejected more than 0.67 cubic miles (2.79 km3) of material." It would take a lot of cigarette smoking to approach those numbers. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 11:27, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sulfur dioxide is not a greenhouse gas. (You might be thinking of noted greenhouse gas sulfur hexafluoride, but as far as I know that is not produced by volcanoes.) APL (talk) 17:36, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Taking US statistics (because they are available): 440,000 people die from smoking each year - and on average, a smoker cuts their lifespan by 12 years. 22.8% of adults smoke and the population of the US is 300 million people, with a life expectancy rate of around 78 years. So if 22.8% of people are living an average of 12 years less than they otherwise would - then that's equivelant to 100% of people living an average of 2.7 years longer. So if there were no smoking in the USA, there would be about 2% more people living there than there are now. (If we assume that these people are predominantly dying after reproductive ages). The US currently produces 5,800 megatonnes of CO2 per year - and assuming this is more or less proportional to the size of the population, we can say that the 2% reduction in population due to smoking deaths is saving us about 12 megatonnes of CO2 per year. If APL's numbers are right, then smokers are producing 78 megatonneskilotons of CO2 per year. So overall, it looks like the planet would be slightly betterworse off if people stopped smoking...at least in the USA. I wouldwouldn't be surprised if that were true for the other two top CO2 producers though: China and India. Their per-capita production of CO2 is much lower - their smoking rates much higher - and their life expectancy is lower - so the numbers will be very different. SteveBaker (talk) 11:45, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oh! I'm sorry - you're absolutely right. In that case - you smokers keep on doing what you're doing - by dying 12 years early (on average) you're helping to save the planet. Well done! SteveBaker (talk) 03:51, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I can just see the tobacco industry running ads saying "Wikipedia declares smoking to be good for the environment !", followed by handing out smokes to grade school kids to "encourage them to each do their part for the planet". StuRat (talk) 16:56, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Some of the oldest people that have lived on the planet chain smoked from an early age till death (China) only issue i see with early death is the other crap placed into the cigs to keep it alight or change the flavour, Compared with a whole range of other pollution issues it is completly unregisterable on scale of effect for global warmingChromagnum (talk) 08:25, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
business
If you have a successful business, but decide that you do not want to have it any more, for whatever reason, eg moral, religion, etc. Can you just stop operating? can you just close down for good? what happens to your staff? eg I runa brothel in amsterdam, then have a religious experience and decide to leave the next day to live in a monistary. can I just lock the doors and walk away? If not why not. and if so, what happens to your staff etc? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.172.58.82 (talk) 16:09, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If you are the sole owner of a business, it is your prerogative to "shut it down", however there may be legal ramifications for doing so; for example your employees may be due severance pay if you let them go; if your business has any debt, your creditors may be due money as well. As a proprietor of a business, you have certain Fiduciary responsibilities to your employees, clients, and creditors, and if you just up and shut down the business one day, with no advance warning or preparation to do so, you may be liable to recompense various people when you do so. You may be better off selling your business to another proprietor, as it leaves you with less liability. --Jayron3216:17, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know how this occurs in England, but over here when we decide to close down, we need to file a form with the authorities, pay your taxes and other dues (bills, etc.) and that's it. In most cases you can just stop operating and tell whatever authorities are in charge that you stopped, so they can suspend your health insurance or whatever. --Ouro (blah blah) 16:20, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In the US, a business owner can close their doors at any time, without notice, to go live in a monastery. Legally the business must pay all of its employees what they are owed for work up to the time that the business closes. The business must also pay all money owed to its employees under any policy the business may have, including any accrued sick time and vacation time, if the business offers those things. There is no requirement to pay employees any severance, unless the company's policy says that it shall pay them severance. There is a form to send to the Secretary of State of each state in which the company does business. The business is still liable for any debts that it has incurred (like a loan from the bank, or paying off the balance of the business's credit cards), and for any contractually agreed-upon payments in the future (as in the case of the business having agreed to lease its place of business through next October). Banks, credit card companies, and landlords will be able to sue the company if these payments are not made; and they all require, in 98% of cases, a "personal guarantee" from the owners on such debts and guaranteed payments; so if the company seems to vaporize, these lenders will have a particularly easy time getting the business owner to pay. The business is also of course liable for paying all taxes incurred up to the date of closure. As for the equipment and furniture that the newly monked owner has left behind in his locked-up brothel, the contract with the landlord says that the landlord will dispose of it (which means he'll sell it for a profit) and the business has to pay for the costs of removing the furniture and equipment. Good luck in the monastery - Comet Tuttle (talk) 17:09, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This actually happened to me once. The brewery my husband worked for just decided to close. They sold the equipment, gave the staff a pay-off and locked the doors, having paid their debts. The proprietor was really stupid: he could have told us he wanted to quit and we would have bought the business off him, giving him more money than just selling the equipment did, because we would have bought the goodwill (which usually means the good name of the busines, customers etc.) as well as just the equipment. Basically, as long as you're solvent, pay off your obligations and you are a sole trader, you can just shut up shop and call it a day. --TammyMoet (talk) 17:10, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That would have required a lack of arrogance on the owner's part. On the other hand, maybe he wasn't so good at running a business anyway. The OP's original question mentioned morals or religion, but the more likely explanations are either practical (losing money) or personal (wanting to retire). ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 18:02, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You'd be surprised how being newly religious will cause some people to make drastic decisions (especially incredibly stupid ones, if they're naive enough to just blindly follow whatever their religious leaders tell them to do). 24.189.90.68 (talk) 00:00, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia search box
What determines what the wikipedia search box to the left suggests? Is is recent page use? Is is graded on relevancy? As an experiment, I typed a single letter into the search box and recorded the top result. Many were fairly logical, but there were some odd ones. Here is the list.
Animal
Brazil
Canada
Departments of France --- ???
England
France
Germany
Hispanic (US Census) --- ???
India
Japan
Km^2 --- ????????
List of sovereign states
Marriage
Native American (US Census) ---???
Ontario
Poland
Quebec
Race and Ethnicity in the United States Census --- ???
It looks to be the most linked-to article beginning with each letter - compare the (outdated) list at Wikipedia:Most referenced articles. The ones which you have questioned are linked from widely used templates, or the census information included for pretty much everywhere in the U.S. The same trick works with numbers, symbols, etc. Warofdreamstalk15:32, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In my case, history comes up before History of Pomerania. And History of Pomerania has 6679 links primarily it looks like Special:WhatLinksHere/History of Pomerania bot created (I presume) (User:Kotbot) articles on PolishPomeranian (or perhaps it's German and Polish)Polish places. History has 21384 and History of China (which is third) has 4021. So I don't know why history didn't come up first in your case, maybe a temporary bug, but in my case it's following what Warofdreams suggested. The same bot BTW is now involved in creating articles on Romanian places which probably explains why Romania is fourth for R. Nil Einne (talk) 21:37, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
While the Command & Conquer Orca in the picture quite clearly has outboard turbofan engines, a real-life highly-manuverable aircraft with twisting nacelles would be more likely to have turboshaft engines mounted in the body connected to ducted fans via shafts, so there's less weight being slung around in the nacelles. The V-22 has its (turboprop) engines mounted outboard of the pivot, but it doesn't need to waggle them about in the way a fighter aircraft would. FiggyBee (talk) 03:28, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
March 26
Hairy
I am suffering from hair loss( may be crossing my first stage) and consulted a trichologist in a homeopathy clinic. He blasted a bomb saying that hair cannot be regrown by medicines and the dead roots are dead and cannot be opened!! He said that the hair loss can only be stopped but cannot be reverted.My hair is not so scanty that I need a major transplantation. Is it possible to have a transplantation in some areas on scalp especially on sides of my forehead?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.235.54.67 (talk) 01:47, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Homeopathy is pseudo-science - it's complete and utter bullshit. Can we really trust the diagnosis of someone who is dishonest enough to promote this junk-science? No, we can't. So ignore this so-called trichologist and seek out a proper diagnosis. SteveBaker (talk) 02:14, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This is certainly not true in all cases. (Drugs like Minoxidil or Finasteride have been shown to regrow hair for some people.) But only a real doctor could tell you about your specific case. You will not find a real doctor in a homeopathy clinic, you'd have just as much luck getting your palm read. A homeopathic placebo might make you think your cold is cured, but it will not regrow your hair. (In fact, It sounds like the quack was trying to prepare you for his eventual failure to solve your problem!) APL (talk) 02:38, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Elton John is known to have had hair transplantation treatment in the early 1990s. Bear in mind though, he was a successful and very wealthy entertainer who could afford the expensive treatment. I'm not that rich, so I would probably choose to shave my head or at least keep the hair very short. Astronaut (talk) 04:51, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I forgot to mention that I am suffering from pattern balding and he said that regrowth is possible for alopecia totalis and not for male pattern balding. And Homeopathy is not bullshit dude!! It takes a lot of time but is effective and the clinic I go (I live in India) is famous throughout our country!! It is not definitely not a Pseudo Science!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.235.54.67 (talk) 15:28, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, whatever. The answer to your question is that your doctor is giving you false information. Both the drugs I mentioned above have been proven effective at treating male pattern baldness. Not 100% effective, mind you, But if you talk to a practitioner of a modern scientific medicine he'll be able to tell you what your best bet is. APL (talk) 17:54, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry - but homeopathy most certainly is pseudo-science. But let's examine why that is - so you don't just have to take my word for it:
According to Wiktionary, the word "pseudoscience" means: "Any body of knowledge purported to be scientific or supported by science but which fails to comply with the scientific method.".
Homeopathy certainly claims to be science - Google for the phrase "The science of homeopathy" and you'll find 1.9 million links - the first gazillion of which are books, magazines and adverts put out by homeopathists.
There is literally zero scientific evidence behind homeopathy. This is hard to prove because you can't look up the lack of something. But homeopathic "cure" suppliers do not rigorously test their products and measure their efficacy - they do not have a solid explanation for how they might work - there are ZERO successful scientific trials of homeopathic treatments that have been independently verified and reported in peer-reviewed journals. Our article on Homeopathy has links to dozens of papers where homeopathy has been tested under the scientific method and failed. In proper science, if some medical treatment repeatedly fails to produce positive results when double-blind tested against a placebo, it is abandoned. Homeopathicists continue to peddle their little bottles of plain water despite the mountain of evidence that it doesn't work. Ergo they are NOT "following the scientific method".
So, homeopathy claims to be a science and does not follow the scientific method (and indeed rejects the results of the scientific method. With the dictionary definition of pseudoscience and these two notable facts about homeopathy, a reasoning person should have no choice but to accept the statement "Homeopathy is pseudoscience". There is no arguing that point.
I strongly suggest you read the third and fourth paragraph of the introduction to Homeopathy - noting the LARGE number of supporting references for the statement: "The lack of convincing scientific evidence supporting homeopathy's efficacy[24] and its use of remedies lacking active ingredients have caused homeopathy to be described as pseudoscience, quackery,[25][26][27][28][29] and a "cruel deception".[30]" - those references are all from well-established scientific sources.
Furthermore - it is irrelevant whether it's "famous throughout our country!!" - fame does not equate to truth (please don't make me back up that statement!).
The truth is that homeopathic remedies are nothing more than plain water. They only work (if at all) by the placebo effect and the people selling the stuff are laughing all the way to the bank as they sell you tiny bottles of plain water for between a hundred and a thousand times what they cost to produce...when you support those people - you're supporting criminals who are dragging you and your fellow believers back into the dark ages - you are being a gullible consumer of fraudulant product. SteveBaker (talk) 03:40, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Homeopathy seems to call itself a "science" in the same spirit that Marxism called itself a "science"—it is a system of answers. This is however a pretty fundamental misunderstanding of what "science" really ought to mean—real science is a way of asking questions! Homeopathy (and Marxism) utterly fail to ask questions in a way that produces reliable answers. They may occasionally be useful, or provide meaningful inspiration... but they aren't scientific at all. I think with homeopathy the amount of b.s. vastly outweighs any insights it has provided. It is extremely telling that all homeopathic remedies I have seen always advertise that there are absolutely no negative side effects whatsoever... anything that actually has the power to effect major changes in your body should have side effects in a number of people, especially if taken in larger doses. If it doesn't—it's just water. --Mr.98 (talk) 12:49, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I could quibble with that last part. For example, if you're suffering from a vitamin deficiency, then supplying the adequate amount of the missing vitamin could effect major changes in your body, and isn't likely to have appreciable negative side-effects. StuRat (talk) 16:24, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
My bottle of vitamin E, which is pretty safe stuff, has a long disclaimer of potential conditions in which you should consult a doctor before taking it. Presumably this is because there have been some real or theorized side-effects, presumably because the vitamin does take some biological action on you. I'm just saying, the big signs that homeopathic medicines have on them proclaiming to have no possible ill side effects is a big sign off the front that they are probably not real medicines! --Mr.98 (talk) 17:02, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Those would be the effects from an overdose. Drinking huge quantities of water would also have harmful effects. And even normal dosages "may cause more frequent urination". But, I agree, in general, that more helpful drugs also are potentially more harmful. StuRat (talk) 17:20, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That's the point tho innit? The only effects from overdose of homeopathy remedies are those from excess consumption of water. There are no other potential (non entirely psychological) effects because they are literally just water Nil Einne (talk) 23:00, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
But, of course, priests have believed in the power of holy water for thousands of years. (Whether that's the power to heal or just to line their pockets, will be left to the reader to decide.) StuRat (talk) 16:52, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
whats with Steve Baker and his love for profanities? He calls peoples questions rubbish and bullshit? Dont we have guidelines on etiquette here? Whether a personal beleives in holistic medicine or not, in allopathy, homeopathy, ayurvedha or whatever is his business, we come to this reference desk asking for medical opinion not rabid outbursts. I have seen this trait in Stever baker heaping verbal garbage on several questioners, pretty pathetic I should say.
While he has all rights to his opinion, so are other people. We would want him describing a well established brach of science as bullshit.
shows how myopic and shallow his knowledge is... remids me of teh cat which closes its eyes and presumes the whole world is dark... grow up baker... barker would be a better surname for you cos we constantly see you barking here.
We certainly do have an obligation to treat each other with respect, which includes other's beliefs. However, we can point out which practices are scientifically proven and which are not, but, of course, without being insulting. It does seem like Steve crosses that line, at times. (If you have a complaint about this, I'd take it to the talk page.)
Also, the "well established" argument is rather weak, if that doesn't include any scientific testing. There have been many "well established" ideas we now know to be completely wrong, like that the Earth was at the center of the solar system. StuRat (talk) 13:29, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks StuRat for respecting my sentiments... lets get one thing clear, Wikipedia is a place for knowledge sharing, not to tomtom one's (assumed) excellence in any subject and ridicule or insult others. While SteveBaker could be a highly decorated Wikipedian that doesnt automatically give him/ her rights to call others opinions/ queries bullshit.
While I am not the OP, this trait of scientific arrogance doesnt reflect well on Steve.
Secondly, even a noble prize winning scientist's theory today could be thrown out tomorrow that's the beauty of science.
Only extremely ignorant people would start making sweeping statements about things they don't knowFragrantforever 08:36, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
Sulu
I saw him on a commercial for TV sets (Sharp). At the end, in a close up he looks into the camera and enphasizes the words "Oh My!". I am supposing that this is a catch phrase of his, that has some origin. Is it from Star Trek, some other performance of his, or am I just imagining a past relavance of it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Llort I. Kcos (talk • contribs) 02:19, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If you google it, it does seem to be a catchphrase of his. A pretty lame one, but beyond Kirk and Spock, the dialogue on the old shows often wasn't especially memorable except for its triteness, "The warp engines'll never hold, sirrr!" That kind of thing. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 02:48, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If you try googling for this along with "Star Trek", you see the same question popping up, and it seems more to do with his Howard Stern connection than anything. I would think if it were Trek-originated, the Trekkers would be all over it. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 12:04, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I am doing a project on Banking and need informationon "holding of funds". I am told that banks sometimes "earmark" or "keep aside" funds in a customer account. I want to know 1. when it is done 2. how it is done in the systems 3. what happens if the hold is of no use? 4. Internationally do practices differ in this area? 5. Does the law regulate these procedures? 6. Is interest paid to customers on such funds held? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rugmiyer (talk • contribs) 06:24, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Unless the money belongs to that account holder, or is legally deposited or transfered into the account, the bank won't put other money into it. Do you have a source on this? DOR (HK) (talk) 07:25, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If a person calls ahead and notifies the bank he will be withdrawing a particularly large amount of cash, perhaps they will arrange to have extra cash available at that branch, if that's what you mean. StuRat (talk) 11:00, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Banks do keep funds 'held' in customer accounts. About a year ago, I paid a big insurance check into my checking account and we were not allowed to access those funds for a couple of weeks (eeek!) while they did "money laundering checks" or some such bullshit. I strongly suspect that they use any excuse they can to earn from your money by preventing you rushing off and spending it. After all, how much effort does it take to note that the check came from a major insurance company? Sadly, I don't know enough about the practice in general to answer our OP's questions adequately. SteveBaker (talk) 11:14, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Holding it for a short period of time has more to do with verifying that the check is valid, hence why Nigerian scams work. As the length of the hold increases, I'd increase the suspicion that they are holding it to earn interest on the monies.--droptone (talk) 11:41, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hi all, Thanks for all the responses.I will be more specific in my question.
The money belongs to the account holder no doubt on that. When can the bank "hold on" to this money. When will they not allow the customer to use his funds? Is it legal? Will the customer still earn interest on the funds held? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rugmiyer (talk • contribs) 12:09, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The usual reason that a bank has 'frozen' all the accounts a customer's may have is because it has received a court judgement ( for debt, money laundering etc.). Exact details (interest freeze etc.,) depends on which country/ small-print / etc.,. Then there are ad hoc decrees. Example: The Bretton Woods Resolution VI of the 1940's prevented refugees that fled from Nazi Germany from accessing any bank accounts they held (but fortunately for the fleeing Nazis at the end of the war fascist Spain just took a very long time to get round to implementing it).--Aspro (talk) 13:31, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
And also, as mentioned above, for the short period of time (a few days) that it takes to verify that a deposited cheque is valid, that money cannot be withdrawn. Yes, this is legal. DJ Clayworth (talk) 17:10, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In the US (and, I suspect, elsewhere), banks can suspend all transactions for a period (30 days for checking accounts, and 90 days for savings, I believe) to prevent a "run on the bank". I would think this would require approval from the various regulatory agencies. This is sometimes euphemistically called a bank holiday, a term which has other meanings, as well. StuRat (talk) 17:22, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Y'all are talking about a couple of different things here. The OP is referring to a hold (a noun, note) applied to newly-deposited funds. Such funds are credited to the customer's account, and do earn interest from the date of deposit -- because the great majority of such deposits are of course completely legitimate.
This is spelled out in the bank agreement, usually under the heading of "Availability of Funds". Get a copy from your local bank and see what they have to say. [edit: For your project, go get one of these from a smaller, neighborhood bank, and one from a large, regional or national bank, and compare them!]
The hold varies depending on the media that is presented. Personal checks are subject to the greatest ("longest") hold; cashier's checks less so; and electronic transfers to a smaller (but not always zero-day) hold. The only "new monies" that are not subject to holds (in the personal banking system) are wire transfers from one bank to another -- because the sending bank guarantees the funds to the receiving bank (which is why there is almost always a fee for this service).
It is legal, and it has a practical value to both the bank and the banking system. Recent legislation has shortened the maximum hold that banks may place on new funds. At the same time, holds have popped up where there were none before, not only due to the increasing prevalence of the previously mentioned Nigerian Bank scams, but also due to the downright paranoia imposed by the PATRIOT act and its Anti Money Laundering provisions. Witness: in the financial planning industry, any licensed staff (Registered Investment Advisors, stockbrokers, even licensed assistants) must (re)take their broker-dealer's AML course every single year as part of their continuing education requirement. Another: you want to stop by your broker's office and contribute some money to your retirement account? Don't take cash -- they can't legally accept it. You might be assisting terrorists and not even know it.
In my experience Spathiphyllum does not like direct sunlight on leaves (certainly not outside, and usually not even through the window). It needs a lot of bright diffuse light to bloom regularly, and some cultivars bloom more-or-less continuously; but direct sunlight may burn the leaves. On the other hand, Spathiphyllum (along with Aglaonema and Aspidistra) is among the most low-light-tolerant houseplants. Spathiphyllum won't bloom under low lights, but it can survive for years in a windowless office as long as it is properly watered. --Dr Dima (talk) 18:52, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, indirect sunlight. It seems like the plant I had would bloom only when it got sufficient light. But you could practically drown it and it was happy (unlike with philodendrons, for example). ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 19:23, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
More Original Research, but my own experience with Spathiphyllum (bearing in mind that there are various species and cultivars, so your herbage may differ) is that they tolerate short spells of soil dryness well and the temporary stress may induce flowering, and they don't like very wet soil, so err on the dry side. An often overlooked factor is that they like a moist atmosphere (often not found in air-conditioned offices), so either mist the leaves every other day or stand the pot on a bed of wet pebbles. I kept one - actually 4 in one large pot - thriving through several office moves and retained them after our plant factory closed, but in my mother's centrally heated spare bedroom (where it went to live for space reasons) they got too dry and gradually died.
Re flowering: if kept healthy but regularly given a little stress to encourage flowering, and if the dead blooms and leaves are promptly removed, one plant can maintain blooms with, say, one developing, one well out and one in decline, for months on end if not indefinitely. Multiple individuals in one pot naturally multiplies the blooming potential. 87.81.230.195 (talk) 06:41, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
International ships in landlocked nations
I know this isn't technically a question, but I was just curious about the fact that two landlocked nations, Mongolia and Bolivia are in the top 25 of countries with foreign ships registered domestically (see: flag of convenience). If anyone had comments on this, that would be welcome.Feel free to delete this question if it's not up to standards--达伟 (talk) 15:31, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If you are asking why there are foreign ships registered in Mongolia and Bolivia, the article on flags of convenience says that ships register this way to avoid various regulations or fees, so perhaps Mongolia and Bolivia have desirable fees and regulations? That's just a stab at it! PrincessofLlyr (talk) 15:51, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
And the reason their regulations are likely to be lax is that they don't have to worry about unseaworthy ships sinking and blocking their ports, ships leaking oil along their coast, diseased crew members spreading epidemics in their port cities, etc. StuRat (talk) 17:28, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
How would I go about sending a stamped, addressed envelope, I'm not sure I could fit one envelope into another of exactly the same size? And would people actually appreciate the effort, don't most businesses already have some system of paying for their mail beforehand, such that they don't need stamps and have to send their own envelopes?
Yes, fold the SAE so it fits inside the other envelope. Certainly, for many charities asking for SAEs helps keep costs to a minimum, and for businesses sending out application forms to potential recruits it can both keep costs down and weed out non-serious applicants. DuncanHill (talk) 16:58, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In the US, I believe the acronym is "SASE", for Self-Addressed, Stamped Envelope. This also keeps to Society of Automotive Engineers off their case. StuRat (talk) 17:35, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
And aren't aeronautical engineers the ones known for "pushing the envelope" ? :-)
This was once covered on "Miss Snark's" blog. (She's a literary agent, who deals with self-addressed-stamped-envelopes a lot.) If you're going to be sending a lot of these she recommends "Very very smart and savvy [readers] understand that biz envelopes come in two sizes: #9, and #10. You put a #9 inside the #10 for your SASE. You mail the #10." She goes on to say that neatly folding an envelope so that it fits in another envelope of the same size is also perfectly acceptable. APL (talk) 17:32, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The main point of the SASE is to make it as easy as possible for your recipient to comply with whatever you're requesting, and to improve your chances of a reply. For example, if you write to a celebrity asking for an autograph, being thoughtful enough to give them an SASE might encourage them to respond. This is why, for another example, solicitations for subscriptions (and sometimes for renewals) come to you pre-stamped. Why? Because they want to encourage you to buy. Bills typically don't. Why? Because you're expected to pay, so no "enouragement" is needed. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 19:20, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Elaborating slightly on APL's point above: The US's #9 envelope is not only small enough to fit inside a standard #10, but it's also big enough so it still holds a standard 8.5x11 page without refolding it. Thus, the "outbound" package (some form or document for the customer to sign, plus the #9 return envelope) is still fairly flat, doesn't have unnecessary bulges in it, and still feeds through a postage meter easily.
You're expected to file your taxes? Why is this worth mentioning? Are there other major world governments that are pleasantly surprised whenever a citizen decides to send them some money? APL (talk) 01:28, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Filing a tax return is not the same as sending money. The Norwegian authorities send tax returns to their taxpayers who are not obliged to return any document at all if they tacitly agree with the information that has been collected. Cuddlyable3 (talk) 01:44, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Nobody's hit the second question, so I'll take a swing at that, too. In my business, "ease of customer response" is EVERYTHING. Every single document that goes out to a client, is accompanied by a postage-paid return envelope, either #9 as above or half-sheet for larger volumes. But, in either case, we ALWAYS run those envelopes through the meter.
Business reply mail does exist; in the US it requires preprinted envelopes, special layout and franking. It's relatively expensive per piece returned, however, and you need a permit, and there may be mininum volumes (not sure on that). It's practical where you don't know what the response rate will be, so mailing out 1000 pieces and getting 300 of them back can cheaper than prepaying first class postage on 1000 pieces in advance.
If you expect to get all your envelopes back, a stamped or metered SASE is easily the more cost-effective option.
Well, I spoke to it, more than once. The OP assumes that he could ask for something and that the recipient would gladly pay for the postage. That's only true if there's something in it for the recipient, that is if the recipient might make a sale. But you're trying to get the recipient to do something for you that's of no apparent tangible benefit to them, an SASE is a must. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 00:07, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
A word of warning. International reply coupons do not really serve the same purpose as a SASE. A SASE is more than a way to save forty-some cents, a SASE is a labor-saving device. The recipient already has the return envelope, it's already addressed, and it's already stamped. All that's needed is to stuff it and drop it in the outgoing mail. International reply coupons don't do any of those things. Sure, they still save you a stamp, but they're not labor-saving at all. In fact, they're labor-wasting, because they need to be physically taken to the post office to be redeemed.
Miss Snark, the literary agent I quoted above, says that she treats queries that come with a IRC the same as all other queries that don't include a SASE. (ie: They mostly wind up in the trash.) Instead she recommends simply buying some stamps from the target nation over the web and making self-addressed-stamped-envelopes with them.
Perhaps it's unfair to foreigners, but it's hard to blame her. If I was expecting a SASE, and instead got a coupon for a free stamp, I'd be pretty irritated. APL (talk) 02:32, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed. The primary purpose of a SASE is to make life easy for the person you are sending it to. As Bugs says above, people are more likely to do what you want if you make it easy for them. The cost of a stamp is rarely significant (for a simple letter, which is all IRCs are for - if you could use them for packages, they would be more useful). --Tango (talk) 14:05, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
They can if you have an appropriate contract with a courier service. A member of the public can't just walk into a post office and send a package that way. --Tango (talk) 16:45, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Voting in the UK
I'm a student studying in England but still nominally living at home in Scotland. There's a general election coming up, possibly on the 6th May, possibly not. I'm 18, and this is the first election that I'm eligible to vote in (and I think I'm already registered to vote). How should I arrange to vote? I'm finding the 'About My Vote' pages confusing.
1. Can I vote both at home and in my university's constituency? I imagine not, but just in case!
2. If I'm voting at home, then I'm likely to need a postal ballot (since I'll be away from home from mid-April to mid-August) - but what if there's a snap election called before I'm back down?
You can only vote in one constituency, even though as a student you can be registered both at home and in the constituency where you live while studying.
As for a postal vote - you apply for this from the council for the area where you are registered. Contact Electoral Services at the council to find out how to do this. As I recall, you can register for a postal vote in advance of an election being called, so the forms will be sent out on time. DuncanHill (talk) 19:35, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Given the general malaise about British politics and corrupt British politicians at the present time (think second homes allowances; duck-houses; wisteria pruning; family employees as researchers etc.,foreign sponsored visits to the Maldives etc.,availability for £5000 per diem for post ministerial hire for "introductory fees" think taxi cab for hire; and subsidised food allowances even when Parliament isn't sitting), I am surprised to learn that an intelligent person such as the OP is even contemplating the democratic right to vote in the imminent British Parliamentary elections. Me? At 63, and having watched the recent disgraceful behaviour(s) of the current Members of Her Majesty's Houses of Parliament - I have no confidence in either party or House, and as such, I would urge the OP to exercise the strongest mandate possible which is NOT to vote at all. Go to the pub, I say, and watch the pathetic result on the TV the day after. You will not be able to tell the difference. 92.30.75.4 (talk) 00:36, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think there is a gesture that's more powerful than simply not voting - and that's to go though the process of voting but "spoil" your ballot by not voting for anyone - or writing "None of the Above" over it or something similar. This says "I'm not voting for any of these people - but I'm not apathetic or too lazy to vote". However, in the end all you're really doing is leaving the choice to people who are more fanatically enthusiastic about one party or the other than you are. In a sense, you are leaving the decision to the very people who you despise the most. Perhaps you should do what my sister's husband did and stand for office yourself - that is perhaps the ultimate statement of discontent - and if everyone is as upset as it sounds, you might stand a good chance to kick at least one of these people out of office. SteveBaker (talk) 03:12, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Absolutely. If you don't vote, no one knows that you think somethings wrong. If you write in Mickey Mouse, of vote for the fascists, or whatever, people can at least see that you don't like the current state of things. Buddy431 (talk) 04:03, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed. Some of the lowest turnouts happen when people are mostly happy with their government - so failing to show up to vote could be interpreted as "I'm not voting because either candidate is fine with me." I like the US system of allowing "Write-in candidates" (WHAAOAA!) (I like the bit where the citizens of Picoazà, Ecuador elected a brand of foot powder as their Mayor). SteveBaker (talk) 04:10, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Out of curiosity, how often have you seen a western democracy which actually reported the number of spoiled ballots as part of regular news coverage? It's the sort of thing that only attracts any attention at all if it represents a substantial fraction of the total count. (Or if the spoiled ballots are part of a very close U.S. presidential race...but that's a decidedly pathological case, and it didn't involve deliberately spoiled ballots.) Spoiling your ballot is a symbolic gesure, sure — but pragmatically speaking it's also a very personal gesture that no one else is likely to notice or care about. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 04:59, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It's been a while since I lived in the UK - but I thought they reported that number when announcing the winners and losers of the election? SteveBaker (talk) 06:04, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That is true - but it's also true that no-one takes any notice of those figures (although they might if anyone significant campaigned for people to do that). Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:55, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Agent 92.30, they're not "Her Majesty's Houses of Parliament". It's "her" government, but the Parliament is not in any sense controlled by her, not even theoretically. Remember what happened to Charles I when he tried to exceed his authority? Monarchs ever since have been well-advised to let the Parliament do its own thing without any regal interference. -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 03:29, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
There is a very good reason why everyone should vote in any election they are eligible to vote in, and that is because people died so you could vote, and not voting is disrespectful to their sacrifice. I agree with the sentiments above: spoil your ballot paper, vote Monster Raving Loony Party, leave it blank - but turn up and vote! --TammyMoet (talk) 08:48, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I received a somewhat mixed message from that, Tammy. Turning up but spoiling your ballot paper or leaving it blank is tantamount to staying at home, for all the good it does. Just turning up is not voting. You have to cast a valid and formal vote while you're there, for your turning up to have had any benefit, value or point. -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 08:59, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
As was said above, casting a spoiled vote still ensures your vote counts - at least in the UK as the number of spoilt papers has to be declared. Just staying at home sends the signal that you consent to whoever other people decide gets in: in a very real sense you are giving your power away. It's the political equivalent of the shoulder shrug and "whatever". Making the effort, registering your vote by spoiling a ballot paper sends the signal that you wanted to vote but nobody could persuade you of their merit. Having seen the political fallout from a 15% turnout (virtually nil) and comparing it with a high percentage of spoilt papers (lots of enquiries as to why this happened), I can see that spoilt papers definitely count. And of course, Jack, if you are under compulsion to vote as the Australian system, there is only one way to protest legitimately! --TammyMoet (talk) 13:34, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have to say that people who don't vote and then complain about whatever the government does are pretty low in my opinion - they chose not to take part, so they don't get to complain about what the people who did take part decided. If you really cannot bring yourself to vote for any of the candidates then spoiling your ballot is a legitimate way of expressing discontent. If you disagree with the whole process then you need to start a revolution, not stay at home grumbling. DuncanHill (talk) 13:49, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This sub-thread started with a TammyMoet's dramatic assumption that martyrs who defend democracy do not endorse the freedom not to vote. DuncanHill you are not compelled as you claim to make your condemnatory statement. In a free society the human right to hold and express opinion neither starts nor finishes at a ballot. It is disingenuous to walk away from a mark you made on a paper while implying that anyone who seeks a different involvement with society is merely a grumbler or subversive. Cuddlyable3 (talk) 15:04, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've got no problem whatsoever with "subversives", and I haven't got a problem with grumblers so long as they do something about whatever is making them grumble. It's the grumblers who don't do anything about it I can't stand. DuncanHill (talk) 15:26, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
On the subject of whether spoilt votes are reported in the UK as mentioned by Steve Baker, yes they are. But they are not analysed to discover why the voters chose to deliberately spoil them. So that gesture is an empty one. Secondly, my vote in Central Scotland will be wasted whatever I choose to do. The reason? This area is a traditionally industrial one which has always returned a Labour MP since the working masses won the vote. And that is despite this area now having NO industrial base on which to justify that complacency. But the Labour candidate will be keeping his Westminster seat warm for many parliaments yet to come, safe in the knowledge that his eventual successor might just as well be a scarecrow wearing a Red rosette. The only effective vote in this system and this country is one which is located within a marginal seat and which can therefore result in a change of Member, Party or Government. So it doesn't matter what I choose to do with my vote on 6th May next. It will still be a wasted vote. 92.30.141.81 (talk) 15:40, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Space saver spare wheel
I've just taken delivery of a brand new Kia Picanto which comes with a space saver spare wheel. The book in the glove box says Australian models have a normal size spare. Why do the UK ones have a skinny wheel, when there is clearly enough room in the boot well to accommodate a full size wheel? I was told it was an "EU regulation". (I think that this reason is probably in the same vain as those EU regulations, such as the one which banned straight bananas, and are regularly written about in the press here in Blighty). --TrogWoolley (talk) 20:34, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The boot well is large enough to handle the Australian requirements, otherwise you'd have to have a different car as well as a different tyre!
Plus, when the spare is on the car, you need a place to put the full-size flat, right?
But, the real reason is that the smaller spare costs less, and weighs less, so you'll get significantly better gas milage with the small one. (Or not...) DaHorsesMouth (talk) 23:55, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
(ec) Your little car has a small "limited use" spare tire, also known as "spacesaver" or "compact" spare tire — in an attempt to reduce cost, lower the vehicle's weight, and/or to save on the space that would be needed for a full-size spare tire. Cuddlyable3 (talk) 01:09, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I searched the EU's laws and regulations website and I couldn't find any requirement for a car's spare tire to be the temporary-type (a/k/a limited-service spare or "Mickey Mouse tire"). Of course, I didn't search every rule in the book, mind you. That said, any EU laws/regulations requiring a vehicle to have a certain minimum fuel efficiency may well have driven Kia to mandate the limited-service tire for deliveries in Europe in order to boost said efficiency. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 01:34, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think it is more likely an Australian regulation requiring full spare tires. That is a justifiable law, the opposite isn't. Does anyone know if they have limited use spare tires in Australia? --Tango (talk) 12:22, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Never heard of the mini-spare tire or the law forbidding it ? If you mean the tire, then you Aussies have it right. I don't know how such an obviously dangerous tire as those ever got approval for road use in the US or elsewhere. I also question the environmental benefit. Any fuel savings must be tiny, then you add the wasted energy and material to make a "tire" which can't be used for more than a few miles. StuRat (talk) 16:42, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, the fuel savings could be substantial since it is always in the car. If you total the fuel saved over the life of the vehicle, it will probably be a big number. --Tango (talk) 16:49, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
While I'm not going to go into the cost of making the tyre (although of course the extra cost of making run flat tyres has to be figures in to it), can you provide some citations for your 'fuel economy' claim? It's true there's been no citations so far, but it makes sense if the weight is less the fuel economy will be improved. However according to the very article you linked to "Self-supporting run flat tires typically carry a 15% - 27% weight penalty over similar standard tires, or additional 2-3 kg". From [3], a space saver for a BMW is ~12.25 kg, so for example if each is 3.1 kg more it seems unlikely the weight will be reduced unless you also take out the jack and other such equipement. Obviously if the weight penalty is 27% it's the same thing, in fact since a space saver is obviously going to be less (it's the issue which started this whole discussion), it sounds even worse although the jack may help make up for it. If you have some reason to believe run flat tyres are going to improve economy even with the same or greater overall weight then as I've said some citations would be good. I came across [4] which mentions that even with the weight tradeoff, it's not necessarily so simple since the extra weight of the tyres is unsprung mass although it's not something I understand much, the pages and [5] suggest to me that even with a equal weight tradeof (and everything else being equal), things come out worse for the run flat because the tradeof is in unsprung mass. All this adds up to your idea that run flat tyres are definitely going to improve fuel economy as being speculative at best. I did come across this BMW site which does claim a weight saving benefit although being BMW they may be talking about fancy weight saving tyres (I appreciate my earlier ref was for a BMW but it was one of the first refs for the weight of a space saving tyre I found, the other being a Mini which sounded somewhat unfair). Nil Einne (talk) 03:51, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
When I do the math, 2-3 kg × 4 = 8-12 kg. That's LESS than 12.25 kg, already. Also, I don't see any point in having a jack if you don't carry (or need) a spare, and there's also the weight of the tire iron, the tie-down bolt, and wing nut. That all adds up to considerably more than 8-12 kg. Also, 4 run-flats is better than one spare, since you're now covered if more than one tire is punctured. StuRat (talk) 04:08, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
2 - 3 kg is clearly intended as a general range, so 3.1 kg is a resonable number considering that range and 3.1kg * 4 is 12.4kg as I hinted at above. As I acknowledged, taking out the jack and other associated equipement will help (I initially made the claim I wasn't sure if that was a good idea but withdrew the claim before you posted although I don't know if you noticed). But as I also pointed out, if the weight differential is 27% meaning that with 4 we have 108% compared to a normal tyre and given that we're discussing a space saver wheel which would I at a random guess, at worse be 75% of a normal tyre, meaning we have 33% diffential in favour of the space saver I could easily see that being enough to make up for the addition of the jack and associated equipement. In addition there is also the unsprung mass issue which you haven't addressed (although again, I'm not sure if you read this only one of my changes came after your edit [6] which clarified what I was saying but didn't make any substanial changes however since you were likely composing your response, automatic conflict resolving may have meant you didn't read some of my changes). I would note that one of the reasons why I'm using very rough estimations is because these are fairly random figures we have here, I have no idea how representative the BMW space saver is of space savers in general, the Mini I came across for example was 9.07kg although as I acknowledged being a Mini it may not be a fair example. Since you're the one making the fuel efficiency claim, I think it's somewhat intrisic on you to support your claims. (Note that the only actual citations in this whole discussion, including one from BMW claiming a weight saving benefit have been from me.) In other words, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying fuel efficiency will never be improved rather that the rough evidence I'm seeing is not convincing me that there is definitely going to be a fuel efficiency benefit in all or even most cases. While I acknowledge there are other benefits of run flat tyres, that's somewhat irrelevant to my point particularly since it wasn't something you initially mentioned. P.S. I have no great knowledge of this area in general (although I have heard of spacesaver tyres before unlike JoZ below) the only reason it came up was because I read the article I linked to and noticed the mention of extra weight which in my mind quickly called into question your claims of a fuel efficiency, I recognise you may not have read the article in detail while linking to it many of us don't & apologise if this came across as too harsh Nil Einne (talk) 04:20, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I was reading one of the earlier links because my internet connection was down while I was testing something and noticed it mentioned
Some run flat tyres have a 20 % higher rolling resistance, in part due to their added structural material and mass; this can worsen a vehicle's fuel efficiency
which as I understand it is in addition to what they also say on
a heavier tyre could translate into reduced engine performance, increased fuel consumption – or lower fuel efficiency
(the above of course is directly related to the unsprung mass issue which they mentioned later). There's also
the excess tyre weight is around the perimeter of the tyre, which increases inertia/momentum of tyre rotation, slowing acceleration and increasing stopping distance
although I'm not sure how this will affect fuel efficiency (it may even be beneficial).
I gather that these issues are being addressed although it seems difficult for me to ever get around the fact you need more mass unless you use some other design, you could compensate by reducing weight in other ways (e.g. the rim) but those would usually also be possible with non run-flat designs the only thing I guess is if you get the weight low enough then perhaps the jack will become too big a burden although you could potentially make a 'super jack' as well. These things may come at a cost, so it's possible you'll reach a level where no one will bother to go to that level for a space saver spare tyre. (Of course all these fancy advances may affect the environmental cost of both systems.) There's also a bunch of confounding factors like car design which may need to be modified if you want to fit a spare tyre.
One thing I concede, I initial thought keeping the jack may be useful for example, for a quick repair of a punctured tyre or some may prefer the ability to buy the tyre and then fit it themselves OR get someone else to buy it. I withdrew the suggestion about the jack after finding many sources mention not needing a jack if you had run-flat tyres (but it still remained in the back of my mind) but reading that ref tells me there's really little point since run flats are more difficult to repair & it isn't recommended (which does have an effect on the environmental issue) and the need for pressure sensors makes changing them a job for the professionals.
As I said earlier, I accept their are other advantages particularly the space saved, not needing to change tyres (including the security/safety risks thereof) & being able to suffer multiple punctures; these unsurprisingly seem to be why people recommend them, not any alleged fuel effiency benefits which as it may be obvious, I'm rather unconvinced are there in many cases.
Wow, you're spending way too much time on this. With the exception of skipping the Mini spare, in every other way you seem to be picking the worst possible scenario for run-flats in your comparisons. First, you chose the worst type of run-flats, the self-supporting type. I'd go with the auxiliary-supported type (rubber rings around each side of the rims): run-flat tire#Auxiliary-supported. Then you take the 15%-27% weight increase for the worst type, and decide to use the 27% figure instead of the 15%. Then you talk about increasing rolling resistance 20% for some models but neglect to mention that "internal bracing in some run-flat tires reduces deformation, with the opposite effects of reducing rolling resistance and improving fuel efficiency". See run-flat tire#Performance characteristics. Finally, consider that I only mentioned fuel savings in the context of total environmental impact. Thus, even if there was no net fuel savings, you'd still have the environmental benefit of not creating a disposable "donut" and jack and tire iron, etc. So, if you choose the worst type of run-flats, they may be worse in fuel mileage alone, but, if you choose the best type they should be better, especially when total environmental impact is considered. StuRat (talk) 13:38, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
My car (not a Kia) has the same thing - a crap spacesaver and a note in the manual saying Australian versions have a full-size spare. I too imagined it was a specifically Australian regulation rather than EU regulation (especially since other cars I've had in the past have always had full-size spares). It works OK in my car so long as I don't have a huge journey ahead of me, and I don't have a large and heavy alloy wheel taking up a lot of space in the boot. Astronaut (talk) 03:00, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This is complete hearsay, but I did hear that Australia has a law about spare tyres hence the AUS models always have full-size spares. The latest Subaru Impreza was launched in South Africa with a full-sized spare which severely compromised boot space, a fact mentioned by almost all the reviews; however most of them concluded that the lack of space was worth having a "proper" spare. The reason for these "marie biscuit" spare wheels is as explained above, to save the company money. It is of course an absolute pain to suddenly have to find space to store a spare wheel, for example the boot of a Honda S2000 isn't big enough in ANY dimension to store its 17" tyres! Another disadvantage is if you get a puncture on on a back road in the countryside far from any major city. Driving at 80km/h with a tiny tyre at one corner is no-one's idea of a good time. Zunaid19:17, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Space saver tyres are left in new cars in Ausralia, and I have seen them on the road (sometimes with bright red rims). Usually have a max speed of 80 kph. This annoys people, and also there is a older tradition of using the spare tyre until it is convenient to get the other repaired or replaced; which can take a long time in rural areas. Polypipe Wrangler (talk) 01:30, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
March 27
Santiago,Mn
How does a Norwegian community like Santiago,Mn get a Spanish name?
A lot of places in Minnesota that were later targets of Scandinavian immigration were first founded by native-born Americans of British descent or by German immigrants during the mid-19th century. During the same period, Chile was also a magnet for German immigration. This is speculation that would need to be confirmed by research, perhaps at the Sherburne County History Center, but the name might have come from German immigrants who had heard of their countrymen's successes in Chile's capital and hoped to achieve something similar in North America. Marco polo (talk) 21:33, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Many place names in Minnesota are mangled versions of indigenous names - don't be surprised if Santiago isn't simply a Norwegian accent applied to a Lakota/Dakota/Sioux word. Weepy.Moyer (talk) 18:36, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
George R. StewartA Concise Dictionary of American Place-Names says only: "probably for the city in Spain or one of the others [in the US] so named, since this is outside the direct Spanish influence and was founded too early (1856) to be named for the battle of 1898, for which a railroad station in the same state was named." —Tamfang (talk) 05:38, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Happy hour etiquette?
I'm not one who socializes with coworkers at drinking establishments after work. What is the "etiquette" for a social situation like that? Are there "unwritten rules" that people are generally expected to understand? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.49.77.190 (talk) 00:22, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, go by all means and make sure your boss sees you there, but also make sure that he/she knows beforehand that you have a maiden aunt who is on her death bed and who dotes on you. That way, you will avoid the myriad problems that ALWAYS attend office parties. 92.30.75.4 (talk) 00:39, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well by the sounds of it you won't be getting drunk, but no there aren't relly. Just talk normally as if you were talking to your coworkers elsewhere. You might get nervous and somehow conclude that the barman (or others in the bar) think you're an idiot but who cares what they think, you're paying the barman, and they almost certainly don't think that anyway. Sometimes more introverted people draw conclusions like that for very little reason. A quick goole search brings up this site that looks quite good.--92.251.201.60 (talk) 00:47, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Another tip ... don't discuss work or work-related topics. This is time out of the office, so treat it as such. If someone else brings up work stuff, consider it off-the-record, for the most part.
Out of curiosity, why wouldn't you socialize with them after hours? It's actually a good thing to see that your co-workers have lives, too. These aren't machines you work with every day; they're people, just like you. You don't have to drink at all, but if you do, by all means do so sensibly. Remember the old adage "loose lips sink ships"? It could be paraphrased "alcohol-loosened lips can sink careers." --McDoobAU93 (talk) 01:27, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Doing X means you're Y
I've heard lots of people say things like "people who fold their arms are afraid of social interaction" and "people who call things gay are insecure about their own sexuality" and "girls play with their hair around people they fancy" and even "males think about sex every 7 seconds". Where do people get these weird ideas? I fold my arms a lot and I'm certainly not afraid of social interaction, and using gay as a synonym for stupid had been almost universal among my peers since I was in primary school (Yes even used by gay people). So have I got some terrific problems that I've never noticed and haven't so far impacted my life, or where did this crap come from?--92.251.201.60 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:02, 27 March 2010 (UTC).[reply]
This is all my opinion, no real research that would be up to Wikipedia's standard went behind this, but I am very timid around people, and I fold my arms a LOT, to the point that any close friends I may have with me will remind me to relax and look friendly. Maybe it's not just me. And no, not everyone who uses the word "gay" as a synonym for stupid (I really wish you'd stop that, though) is a closet homo, not even all actual homophobes are gay. However, if you keep up with political scandals, you'd notice that the most ardent homophobes are secretly gay themselves. 24.189.90.68 (talk) 01:58, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No the construction "politically homophobic" is unjustified. In politics Roy Ashburn was against gay rights. One may see that as cynical politics but to apply a psychological diagnosis homophobia that means fear of homosexuality makes no sense. Roy Ashburn visited a gay club so User 24.189.90.68 calls him an "ardent" homophobe which makes as little sense as an "ardent" claustrophobe. Cuddlyable3 (talk) 01:45, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I know the literal meaning of homophobia is a fear of homosexuals, but generally that term is used against people who hate gays, and probably aren't "fearful" enough to go up to an openly gay person's face and call them names or do worse. And by "ardent", I also meant he was so outwardly homophobic, that he'd be willing to vote against gay rights to make good with the people he needed approval from, even if it meant putting himself down by doing so. The same way some preachers vilify homosexuality as an abominable sin, and then they're having same-sex affairs on the side. Rather than be indifferent, they'd prefer to be as outwardly homophobic as possible to deflect any suspicion that they might be gay themselves (although it's a tactic that is now failing miserably). So don't be surprised if Fred Phelps comes out (inadvertently or not) of the closet someday. 24.189.90.68 (talk) 07:37, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Body language experts say that folded arms shows a defensive posture with overtones of disagreement. I suppose that someone who habitually folds their arms when not disagreeing with people is therefore being defensive all the time - which could indicate a fear of social interaction. Personally, for me it usually means that the A/C is turned several degrees too low and I wore a short-sleeved T-shirt to work today...but then I'm a complete klutz when it comes to transmitting or receiving thoughts in the form of body language! SteveBaker (talk) 04:05, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
There's a semi-pseudo-semi-science around reading body language for fun and profit. you'll see a lot of books on it, usually aimed at people who sell things, people trying to scoot up the corporate ladder, and people trying to score date more successfully. It has a real basis in clinical psychology (posture and physical behaviors are diagnostic tools used by therapists sometimes). outside of therapy, though, it's 95% placebo: if you believe you can 'read' someone's body language, you feel you have knowledge, which makes you feel more self-confident and in control, which makes it more likely that you are going to succeed at whatever it is you're doing. you get the same effect by using Affirmations ("I'm going to get that promotion"). --Ludwigs204:14, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think all those ideas, aside from the last one, are perfectly sound, and certainly not 'weird' by any stretch. Anyway you asked where people get these ideas. Has it occurred to you it might simply be recognizing the truth? Hence there is no source per se, just a recognition of human nature. I mean, sure you fold your arms and sure you have no qualms about being around people, but when you fold your arms methinks there is someone or something around you that you are not entirely keen on. Vranak (talk) 04:53, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The reason Ludwig's affirmation won't work is that it's not written in the present tense, as if the goal has already been achieved ("I have been promoted to <name your job> and I am enjoying it immensely"). Affirmations work in the same way as visualising a goal, because they trick the mind into seeing the goal already achieved. But if you tell yourself over and over that the job will happen in the future, that's when it'll happen, and the future never comes. -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 09:13, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If I have to stand or sit still, I fold my arms. It's just more comfortable. I am heterosexual and I often use the word gay to mean stupid, and I'm not homophobic either. And while I might think about sex every 7 seconds some of the time (:D), I certainly don't do it all the time. I have discovered to my own loss that the third satement certainly isn't true.--92.251.234.191 (talk) 13:13, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I know what you mean. Whenever I meet new people, I curl up into a fetal position in the corner, and people are forever trying to read something into it. :-) StuRat (talk) 16:32, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Just because homosexuals co-opted the term "gay" doesn't mean they own it. It used to mean something much broader - light, airy, effeminate, flamboyant, etc. Calling something "gay" doesn't necessarily mean it's "homosexual" - it could mean it's like the original version of "gay" - showy, perhaps; and perhaps lacking in substance. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 22:58, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The term "gay" has had sexual connotations for centuries. Then and now it has other meanings, but even in the 1600s you couldn't describe someone as "gay" without someone in the back row snickering. In fact, it's connotation is probably cleaner now than then. APL (talk) 01:48, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think "gay" had the predominate homosexual meaning until the mid-1960s. Otherwise we wouldn't have all the Christmas songs and the Flintstone's theme using it. StuRat (talk) 16:21, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No, but in certain contexts you could use it to describe an unseemly obsession with pleasures of the flesh. That old-fashioned use of the word goes back centuries. I'm no linguist, and I'll admit that judging from TV and movies from the period this usage seems to have been obscure in, say, the forties and fifties, but I assume that it couldn't have died out completely because, like you say, a close variant of it came back in a big way in the 1960s. APL (talk) 18:07, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I guess that's why even for the first half of this century it was perfectly acceptable to say one's camping trip was a gay old time. And DuncanHill you don't have a clue who you're talking to so you can't make claims like that. You're being rather hypocritical.--92.251.225.200 (talk) 11:19, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
So tell me who you are - instead of being the sort of coward who uses offensive language then pretends that others can't complain "because they don't know who they are". DuncanHill (talk) 11:33, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Lol APL I'm still stuck in the 20th century. And DuncanHill there is not one human being alive that does not say stuff like "why won't this damn printer work" and "crap". Many people I know and I often say things like "that film is so gay" when we mean bad. How is this any more offensive than saying "bad"? If you're the kind of person who's grip on reality is so tenous that you are mortally offended by a person's choice of phrase yet fail to be offended by the unimaginable amount of injustice, oppression and suffering that has permeated this world throughout history; someone who feels he can judge the worthiness of an entire group of people's lives based on two sentences written by one of the group, then you need urgent help. I will continue to use "gay" and other words as synonyms for bad as I've grown up using them.--92.251.136.245 (talk) 21:31, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Evolutionary psychology has a lot to answer for. And phrenology and associated ideas. The idea that you might be able to magically divine somebody's character (and perhaps predict their future) by looking at them is enormously tempting. Fiction from a hundred years ago was full of sorting people into types based on the shape of their jaw or the colour of their eyes or something; the second world war and popular disapproval of racism cured us of this, I think, but the appeal of divination lingers. 213.122.27.130 (talk) 19:27, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
These sort of body language things can be useful because they are broadly true but have to be taken along with other signals.In isolation they mean nothing.The thing is,we often react unconsciously to them without knowing it.For example,if someone used the word "gay" to mean "stupid" I would condemn them as an ignorant bigot ...hotclaws18:45, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Webcomic about the Sega Dreamcast
Anyone here knows a webcomic strip that had one character labeled "indie gamer" or something similar, he walked into the scene after being introduced and just said "The Dreamcast was highly underrated!" or something like that? It looked like Penny Arcade or Sinfest, but I don't think those were it. Thanks. --YukiMuonMadobeNite (talk) 01:35, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have a bit of a tough one... At least I think so... I saw a flag today, here in Vermont, that was hanging off someone's porch. It had four vertical stripes that made up the "background" of the flag. One color covered the left third, two colors were evenly divided between the middle third (making a line down the center of the flag), and the fourth color was on the right third. In the "foreground" of the flag was a ring of different colors. As the ring passed through one of the other color blocks, the ring itself changed to another color. I only had a quick glance but none or very few of the colors seemed to be the same as any of the other colors on the flag. Any ideas what the flag represented? Or do you think this was just a flag that someone found "pretty" and they hung it up? Dismas|(talk)03:42, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, there are several sites on the web that show the flags of all countries in the world - and none of them appear to have four vertical stripes. So we can narrow it down to "a pretty flag" or some kind of city, commercial company or club flag. You didn't mention the colors of the stripes - I guess that might help. SteveBaker (talk) 04:00, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have had two thefts from my front garden in the last few months. Can anyone suggest a suitible exterior CCTV please? I would like it to be discrete, almost invisible, without big ugly cameras. I only want it to record still images that I can retrieve for the last twenty four hours or more, not real-time monitoring. Most importantly, I want it to run all by itself without requiring me to keep a computer running. It should run silently without needing any attention from me, except when I want to review and retrieve images. Thanks 84.13.201.209 (talk) 11:12, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Save a lot of money by mounting a deliberately visible dummy camera. Here are suppliers one of whom offers a peculiar slogan "They are real dummies, don't be a dummy and buy one, crooks know the difference". Cuddlyable3 (talk) 14:26, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think a real, exterior, standalone CCTV system would be more expensive than whatever is stolen from your garden. You could lower the cost by just using a remote web cam attached to your computer, but you vetoed that idea. A simple motion sensitive light might well frighten off the thieves, and is good for personal safety, as well. Also, is there a way to secure the items they steal ? Tools can be locked in a shed or garage, for instance, and garden gnomes can be put inside, looking out a window. StuRat (talk) 16:03, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Odd, they charge more for a fake camera than a real one. But, of course, a real one also needs wiring, a monitor, and a recording device to go along with it. StuRat (talk) 19:00, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The more difficult thing is not the cameras or the wiring, but having something that will save 24 hrs plus of still images. Something that does not make any noise and hence does not have a cooling fan, or use up much electricity. 89.243.43.75 (talk) 19:40, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Do you know if it is "possible" to learn Dvorak without forgetting Qwerty? I'd like to give Dvorak a try, but I'm worried that I'll be unable to type in Qwerty any more (I currently type at ~120wpm at Qwerty). --Belchman (talk) 21:36, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
(OR) I've learned to type both, but nowhere near 120 wpm on either. It usually takes about 20 minutes or so when I switch over for the memory to come back completely. Maybe if you switched more often, you could bring that time down. Buddy431 (talk) 22:06, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
About 50 wpm. I certainly prefer Dvorak (you aren't reaching down to the bottom row so much), but I don't know that I type any faster on it. Buddy431 (talk) 02:23, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It's much harder to keep your qwerty typing when you learn dvorak, but for many people not impossible. On the other hand I expect your qwerty speed to also carry to your dvorak typing - after 3 months or so of practice. Presumably to keep your qwerty speed up, practice it as much as you practice dvorak. --Polysylabic Pseudonym (talk) 12:04, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
March 28
Which Muslim based language??
I just had an e-mail attachment that illustrated how, in 20 years or so, because of the smaller European family size and the increasingly Muslim family size (in Europe), Western Europe was inevitably to become an Islamic region, given the declining Western population growth to about 1.6 children to 2 parents, as against the Muslim figure of about 8.1 per married couple. If that is true, and me being a realist rather than a reactionary, and further given that in the past (as an English citizen and speaker), I have chosen to learn Latin based languages such as Spanish, French, and Italian, (mainly for holiday purposes), how would Wikipedia advise me to quickly learn a Muslim based language such as Arabic. Forgive my ignorance but I am assuming that Arabic is the most widely spoken and readily understood language in the Muslim community. Thanks in anticipation. 92.30.0.204 (talk) 00:08, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Muslims speak many different languages. Many of them speak English. If you're taking the "can't lick 'em, so may as well join 'em" approach, probably your best bet would be to study Arabic, as that's the language of the Quran. Rosetta Stone (software) includes Arabic in its list. There's no substitute for "immersion", but if that's not practical, then some elementary course such as Rosetta Stone might be a good start. You should probably also track down a local mosque and ask them about it. Far as I know, Islam is every bit as eager to bring in new recruits as Christianity is, and I expect they could give you some good guidance. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 00:18, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict)There are no Muslim-based languages. Islam is not a language family or grouping. There are langauges whose speakers practice Islam, Arabic is the official language of Islam in much the same way that Latin used to be the official language of Christianity; however Classical Arabic is the "liturgical" language, being the language the Qu'ran is written in, however no one actually speaks that on a daily basis. Modern Standard Arabic is the lingua franca of the Arabic-speaking world. The largest (by population) Muslim country in the world is Indonesia, so the Indonesian language would be a good second choice, but there are not a lot of European Muslims who are coming from Indonesia. There are native European Muslims, for example Bosniaks, who speak the Bosnian language. The Farsi language is spoken widely in Iran and Afganistan, and it is an Indo-European language, so is closer related to English or French than it is to Arabic. To sum up, if you want to speak a language that will allow you to communicate with many Muslims, your options are probably, in order, Arabic, Indonesian, and Farsi.
As an aside, I wouldn't take emails like that to mean anything. Demographic changes happen so rapidly and unpredictably, alarmist and xenophobic analyses like that (Watch out! People unlike you will soon take over your country and you will soon be a minority!) are usually bullshit. I would pay it no mind. --Jayron3200:25, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Several years ago, there was an article in either Time or Newsweek that opined that Europe would be largely Islamic within 50 years. That was based on the current growth rate, along with the decline of Christianity in Europe, while failing to take resistence into account. It reminds me of a story, I think written by Mark Twain, based on the rate of "shortening" of the Mississippi River over time. He projected backwards that the Mississippi must have been many thousands of miles long in ancient times. As you say, estimates based on current growth (or shrinkage) rates are not necessarily reliable predictors. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 00:33, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
(another ec):First, that email attachment very likely is nonsense. Moreover, there is no such thing as "a Muslim-based language", or "the Muslim community". But if you want to learn a new language, that's certainly a good idea. Arabic is the language of the Qur’an, and is spoken in different dialects in much of Arabia and Northern Africa, and probably among Muslim minorities in France. Farsi is spoken by Muslims in Iran, Afghanistan and neighbouring regions. Urdu is probably the language spoken as a native language by the largest number of Muslims, and it's fairly widely spoken among Muslims in the UK. Turkish is spoken by around 80 million people, including many immigrants in Germany. And Indonesian has about 200 million speakers. Urdu and Farsi are Indo-European languages, so that might give you a leg up. Arabic is a semitic language and has a long literary tradition, so that's a plus. Turkish and Indonesian are written with Latin letters. Take your pick. As for learning them, there are various methods. If I remember correctly, Richard Francis Burton, who apparently spoke 29 languages, including Arabic, recommended going to the country and living with a local hooker for a month. Others recommend to live with a family that has small children for a while. More conventional are language classes. --Stephan Schulz (talk) 00:45, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I recall the email in question from a couple of years ago. I think it originated as an article on a far-right group's website. I have read an excellent rebuttal of it (maybe by the chap who write the Bad Science pieces for the Grauniad). I'll try to find it. DuncanHill (talk) 00:49, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I've remembered where I heard about this before. It was on a BBC Radio 4 programme about statistics and their misuse - when I can remember the name I'll come back again! DuncanHill (talk) 08:28, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Considering that the proportion of muslims in the EU is 3.2% (16 million out of a total population of 500 million), and after a couple of generations the fertility rate among recent immigrants usually falls considerably (in fact the fertility rate is currently lower than 8.1 in every country in the world), it will be a long, long time before Islam could even possibly become a majority faith in the EU. It is only racist fuckwits, sorry... far-right islamaphobes who are stoking fears of a European Caliphate or Eurabia. You can safely ignore the email attachment. That said, learning Arabic wouldn't do you any harm. Astronaut (talk) 02:10, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not saying it was a funny joke, but it was sort of based on the premise that the right-wing reactionaries are right, and that both regions would soon be overrun by outsiders who overwhelm the existing culture instead of integrating with it.APL (talk) 22:29, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Why are some electric locomotives called Bo-Bo or Co-Co? And also, as most locomotives that are or were in service in the UK have numbers, where is all this information stored? Is there a database with all the numbers in it, or is it just something used to distinguish locomotives of the same class from each other whilst they are in service? I was looking through a book of British 60s electrics and diesels in the midland regions. Chevymontecarlo. 08:40, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'll start you off with links to Bo-Bo and Co-Co. They seem to relate somewhat to UIC classification of locomotive axle arrangements. I think loco numbers were issued by the owning company - presumably British Rail in the 1960s. Info on the 60s is probably now best stored in railway publications of one sort or another. Contemporary numbering will live with the rolling stock leasing companies. --Tagishsimon(talk)08:47, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'll add a link to List of British Rail modern traction locomotive classes - the numbers relate to the class of locomotive as well as a "serial number", so for example 27056 is a British Rail Class 27, and the 056 relates to its number within the class, the first being 27001. All the numbers of current locomotives, coaching stock, wagons, etc. are all organised by TOPS which also records train formations, timetables and a hundred and one other things. -=# Amos E Wolfetalk #=- 09:21, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I was reading the 9/11 Report yesterday (interesting stuff!), and there is some discussion about roof rescues weren't attempted on the World Trade Center towers (in the North Tower at least that would have been maybe the only way anyone above the crash site could have evacuated). There was a mention of radiation hazards on tops of the towers that I was just curious about in a factual way:
Doors leading to the roof were locked.There was no rooftop evacuation plan. The roofs of both the North Tower and the South Tower were sloped and cluttered surfaces with radiation hazards,making them impractical for helicopter landings and as staging areas for civilians. ... Even if the doors had not been locked,structural and radiation hazards made the rooftops unsuitable staging areas for a large number of civilians; and even if conditions permitted general helicopter evacuations—which was not the case—only several people could be lifted at a time.[10]
What were the radiation hazards mentioned? How much radiation are we talking about? (Of course, it seems like compared to the threat of the towers collapsing, a few rems would have been preferable, but that's neither here nor there.) (I am not a conspiracy theorist, mind you. I'm just curious what they're talking about!) (If it is somewhere else in the Report, I apologize... I looked through online with the "find" button, but didn't see anything obvious on my first pass. The paperback version that I am reading does not have an index.) --Mr.98 (talk) 13:31, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
World Trade Center says "The roof of 1 WTC contained a vast array of transmission antennas" for "almost all" of NYC's TV and a bunch of its broadcast FM stations. So when they say "radiation" I think they mean electromagnetic radiation not ionising radiation. Those signals would pose a major hazard for helicopters flying near them. -- Finlay McWalter • Talk14:01, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
But wouldn't all those have been turned off or had power cut by then ? I certainly did think that there should have been attempts made to rescue from the roof, and that the roof should have been designed for that. Similar to the Titanic, there just didn't seem to be provisions made to evacuate everyone quickly enough. There was always a possibility that certain stories of the buildings could become impassable and evacuation would need to go up as well as down, but they never implemented a plan for this. StuRat (talk) 16:01, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This is just wild speculation, but perhaps whichever agencies had helicopters ready simply didn't know the status of the transmitters and what effect that would have on the helicopters. Like you say, there was no plan in place, and finding out this sort of technical information quickly in a crisis is probably not easy. APL (talk) 18:13, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
One of the things they emphasize in the Report is that the plane impacts seriously damaged the electronic infrastructure and that because of this the computer systems were really unreliable in the upper parts of the towers. This was responsible for a lot of problems—this is why the doors at the top were still locked even though the central control had sent a universal "unlock" signal, and why some of the intercom systems didn't work correctly, and why the radio relay system was unreliable (thus emergency personnel who got above a certain height in the tower lost their ability to communicate with people on the ground). So I'm not sure it is clear whether they could have turned the stuff off at the top at that point, even if they had sent a signal. It is not necessarily true that the power would have been automatically cut by the planes.
Incidentally... it is actually rather impressive how many people were evacuated. From the same chapter:
The National Institute of Standards and Technology has provided a preliminary estimation that between 16,400 and 18,800 civilians were in the WTC complex as of 8:46 A.M. on September 11. At most 2,152 individuals died at the WTC complex who were not (1) fire or police first responders, (2) security or fire safety personnel of the WTC or individual companies, (3) volunteer civilians who ran to the WTC after the planes’ impact to help others, or (4) on the two planes that crashed into the Twin Towers.
That's actually a pretty effective evacuation, as far as they go. They got some 14,000-16,000 people (over 88% of those there) out of harm's way in a little over an hour and a half, even though it wasn't at all clear at first that the towers would likely collapse. A lot of the people who died were due to the immediate plane explosion itself, or because they were trapped in the upper floors and had no way below the damage (at least in the North Tower; in the South Tower they had some limited way through for some amount of the time, if I'm remembering right). I think the basic problem re: roof evacuation is that even under ideal conditions, getting 2,000 people out via helicopter would have been pretty much impossible in that amount of time, much less under the conditions they had there (where the heat from the fires itself was enough to make helicopter use extremely precarious). --Mr.98 (talk) 18:35, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
There seemed to be times when one or both roofs were clear enough for evacuation. In this pic of the impact on the 2nd tower, the roof of the first tower looks clear, for example: [11]. As you said, there wouldn't have been anywhere near 2000 people to make it to the roofs, but, even if there had been, if each chopper could pick up 5 people, and took 1 minute to do so, you could pick up 300 people per hour per tower. That's a significant number, but you'd need a few dozen choppers to do it. I'm sure there's that many in NYC, it's just a matter of having a plan to press them into service. StuRat (talk) 21:33, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Your hypothetical 1 minute-rescues implies that they're just going straight over to some other building and then back. A "few dozen" helicopters all within a 30 second flight of each other, hovering over a burning building (With all the unpredictable air currents that implies), and stuffed to capacity with survivors ... That sounds like a recipe for disaster. Especially if you're using pilots not trained for rescue work. APL (talk) 22:57, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I'd expect them to drop people off at the nearest safe roof. They would want to set up a traffic pattern, where choppers approach on one side, hover in a designated area, land, then leave in another direction. A "control area" could be set up on the roof of a nearby building (or from a chopper hovering above the rest), to avoid confusion. It certainly would be dangerous, but the alternative was that everyone on the roof died, wasn't it ? It was also obviously dangerous for first responders to enter the building, but the did that, didn't they ? StuRat (talk) 00:14, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The other alternative is helicopters crashing into the people safely evacuating below, or into buildings not currently damaged and not yet on fire.
Seriously though, Incident Command is a complicated thing and setting up the sort of operation you're talking about with dozens of pilots in different types of vehicles, many of them under-trained and never having worked in this sort of group, would take a long time. The very few people in the city capable of even attempting to organize something like this probably felt their time was best spent elsewhere. APL (talk) 01:13, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I also don't think the roof looks terribly clear in that picture you've chosen. Aside from the fact that it is just a slight moment in time (one in which a plane happens to be exploding into the side of the other building, releasing enough pressure and heat to have severely damaged any nearby helicopters), it still appears there is significant smoke. --Mr.98 (talk) 13:44, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The article on the dogo argentino says "it is illegal to own Dogos Argentinos without specific exemption from a court per the Dangerous Dogs Act 1991". What does it take to get this exemption? Is it a matter of proving that you need one (e.g. for protection due to the type of work your involved in) or just proving that your capable of owning one and bringing it up properly so that it does not pose a threat to others or yourself? --212.120.247.225 (talk) 14:49, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I would start by asking at your local police station, but I suspect you will need a better excuse than "for protection..." and an explanation why you want that specific breed rather than a German Shepherd, for example. I also added relevant links to your question. Astronaut (talk) 17:01, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This official page explains the basics of the law, as does this one. It says an exemption will be given if the court is satisfied that the dog is not a danger to the public (however, that can only happen after you've been convicted of owning an unregistered banned dog and fined/imprisoned, as far as I can tell). You wanting a way to defend yourself would not be acceptable, just as it isn't an acceptable reason for carrying a knife. I don't believe there is any legal way of getting a banned dog (they are illegal to breed and sell), though. Exemptions are intended for people that had such dogs before the 1991 Act came into force, I think (and didn't register them and get them exempted before 30 November 1991). My advice would be to forget all about owning one. If you really want to, you'll need to talk to a lawyer - they will probably give you the same advice, though. --Tango (talk) 17:19, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
There is no reference to the courts in section 1 of The Dangerous Dogs Act 1991, which is the section that makes it an offence to breed, sell, or (after the designated date) have a dog of one of the types designated. There are reference to the courts in section 4, which covers destruction and qualification orders. It therefore appears that, as Tango says, there are cases in which the courts may not order a dog to be destroyed, but there is no exemption to the offence. I shall edit the dogo argentino accordingly. --ColinFine (talk) 18:37, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The 1991 Act authorises the Secretary of State to create an exemption scheme. It was closed after 30 November 1991 and then reopened following the 1997 amendment. The links I gave explain it better than the Act - Acts of Parliament are really hard to interpret without being a politician or a lawyer. --Tango (talk) 19:33, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Section 4B of the Dangerous Dogs Act 1991 (introduced in a 1997 amendment) allows exemptions to be made without convicting the offender.House of Commons, 4 November 2009 If an individual is found with a banned dog but they have a certificate of exemption and have not breached any of the specific control laws then no offence has been committed.Wyre Borough CouncilRoad Wizard (talk) 21:52, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Pitch-side advertising
This season, I've noticed a change in the pitch-side advertising at some Premier League games. Besides the usual advertising for the team sponsors, the stadium tours, etc. there are some adverts featuring asian language such as Chinese, Vietnamese, Thai and Korean. For example, the 188BET adverts shown at Anfield, and the Kumiho tyres adverts at Old Trafford. Is there a reason for the appearence of asian languages in these adverts? Astronaut (talk) 16:46, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Television! the premier games are shown all over the middle and far east so it is advertising appealing to the world wide tv audience. MilborneOne (talk) 17:02, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
For evidence of the extent of this market (the Far East specifically), see the pre-season schedule of the Premier League sides and how many of them play a mini-tournament in Thailand or something and the fact that Everton's main sponsor is in fact Chang Beer. 91.85.128.205 (talk) 19:34, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The Premier League is extremely popular in Asia - if you take a quick look at www.manutd.com for example, you'll notice the front page has links to Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, and Korean versions of the site. I've been noticing adverts in Asian languages at quite a few grounds for a few years now. -- Arwel Parry(talk)22:49, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Add in all the kit-sponsors changing from Uk Market based companies to more international companies (e.g Man City's sponsor is Etihad and Man Utd's is AIG). It's all about the increasingly global face of the English Premier League. I recall hearing that Everton were 'pushed' to purchase a player from Asia more in terms of marketing/increasing localised (to Asia) interest in their club rather than purely for footballing reasons. Not sure of the truth of such a rumour (sounds vaguely plausible) but I suppose the existence of the rumour is 'evidence' of the increasing focus on international-interest in the premiership. 194.221.133.226 (talk) 12:35, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Has anyone heard of a mixing bowl (most likely made of plastic) that has a hole cut in the center where you can place an electric hand mixer inside the hole and you beat what's inside without it splattering everywhere? Any idea who makes this? Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by NancyDrew68 (talk • contribs) 21:11, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Do you mean one with a plastic top with such a hole in it ? It seems like that would interfere with the ability to mix the stuff that sticks to the sides of the bowl, and also to view how well mixed the results are, so I don't think a professional chef would use such a thing. You can just use the beater on low to avoid splashing. StuRat (talk) 21:22, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, the advantage of a hand mixer is that you can move it around and control it more precisely to mix what needs mixing and leave alone what is already sufficient mixed (especially important when whipping cream), and you seem to lose that advantage when putting a lid on, so you might as well go to an automatic mixer, I suppose. StuRat (talk) 00:06, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Transport in WY
Hello guys! I looked for more articles and websites but I couldn't find answer to this: I'd like to travel from Denver, CO (or Cheyenne, WY) to Riverton, WY by public transportation (NOT by aircraft) but I didn't find schedules. Could you write me, is there so buslines? Later I'd like to explore Cheyenne, WY. Could you write me, is there public transportation system in Cheyenne, WY? If I good know, on the rail there's only fragile service... Thanks for the help and I'm sorry but my english knowledge is not the best... :) - Keldvi (talk) 21:53, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Greyhound (bus) can get you to Casper from either Denver or Cheyenne, and the Wind River Transportation Authority (also bus) provides a shuttle between Casper and Riverton. Make sure you check the schedules and figure out a coordination plan, as it isn't like these things run once an hour. Here is a route map for bus transportation in Cheyenne itself. A couple of slight caveats: Greyhound is the 21st century American version of steerage, (it isn't terrible but BO is a frequent passenger), and although I've only passed through Cheyenne briefly, there probably isn't a huge amount of stuff to explore there - probably a few museums and the state capitol and that's it. This too isn't a horrible idea, just know that Cheyenne probably wouldn't be able to provide a week's worth of activities, probably more like a day or two. This site has some more information on stuff to do in Cheyenne. AlexiusHoratius22:43, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I am surprised that a town of 9,000 (Riverton) in a county "the size of Belgium" with a population density of 2/km² has an airport with 3 daily flights (all to Denver).[13] Even the state capital only has 8 daily flights (only to Denver or Dallas). It must have to do with Riverton being only 150 miles to Yellowstone National Park or 130 miles to Grand Teton National Park. The only other attraction seems to be the casinos at the Wind River Indian Reservation. Rmhermen (talk) 13:13, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Greyhound has a location closer to Riverton: Shoshoni, WY (approx 20 miles away), but I can't get any schedule or fares information. I feel sure there would be local buses or taxi companies that could take you the last 20 miles. Failing that, there's always hitchhiking.
Then again, the whole journey is only a few hours, so why not try to convince a friend in Denver to give you a ride all the way there. Astronaut (talk) 18:26, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
One reason is probably just so you can tell them apart (especially when they all look vaguely Japanese, no matter what nationality they allegedly are). StuRat (talk) 00:03, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Why not? A significant portion of anime has far more unrealistic aspects to it, so as long as you're creating a fantastic perfect world, go crazy. Same reason all the women have breast to waist ratios that would kill a normal human - you can, so if you want to you do. ~ Amory (u • t • c)14:07, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Also, much of the audience is kids, who might like to have wild hair like that, but their mothers won't let them. So, in the animes they can pretend to be those characters and live out their fantasies. StuRat (talk) 14:19, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think there is also a tradition in the art style that dates back to 'pulp comics' where the printing methods were crude and it was tough to make subtle color variations. That's the main reason that superheroes always have primary-colored costumes for example. SteveBaker (talk) 05:00, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
One of my father's cellphone battery seems to be bloated. It looked like a bag of potato chips rather than a sleek rectangular battery. Anyways, I threw it away just in case it would explode or something. Anyways, what caused its bloating and what could have happened if we have left it inside the phone. There was no marking in the battery itself, just 3.7 V and the company's name.--121.54.2.188 (talk) 01:09, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It certainly sounds like a good idea to dispose of it, but I believe cell phone batteries contain toxic substances so should be disposed of properly, not just tossed in the trash. Is it an NiMH battery ? StuRat (talk) 01:36, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No idea what type of battery it is, the battery seems to be a cheap knock off and have no other labels aside from what I said above. I also told my folks not to buy cheap but unreliable phones anymore. I think it was collected with the other trash last week. Our country is not that keen in garbage segregation yet.--121.54.2.188 (talk) 01:40, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
What could have happened? Well, it's a long shot, but it could have literally exploded. If you google for "Exploding phone" you'll find several stories, mostly from China, about cell-phones that have gone off like hand grenades and killed or maimed their users. APL (talk) 04:43, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've got a Nokia 6234 whose (original) battery is on its last dying legs. It has bloated so much that I've broken several clips on the back cover trying to force it onto the phone. The battery "dies" when I speak too long on a call, but then indicates full charge when I switch the phone back on again. I have to charge it every night. Thus far no ill effects in terms of exploding. I'm going to guess but could the bloating be as a cause of a chemical reaction? Maybe the reactants take up less volume than the substance(s) they produce. Zunaid09:43, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
According to these articles, in lithium-ion batteries, there's a basic design problem. Due to overcharging or a small short circuit (a result of metal build-up on the electrodes in the battery), a significant amount of heat can be generated, and if gas builds up inside it expands, causing the case to bulge, or if it's hot enough the battery can catch fire [14][15]. Not a good sign. --Normansmithy (talk) 10:45, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I just want to know on the one side govt of rajasthan want to improve its education status on the other hand some universities who have announced distance learning programme like M.A education and they have written in their prospectus that its a 2 years degree programme which is equivalent to M.ED course of rajasthan university then why IN 2010 B.ED colleges are not taking the candidates who have dome M.A in education from VMOU kota as a faculty? whats the reason we feel govt. has cheated us because they must know distance learning is for those who are already in job and want to get higher education in that condition they must get the eligibility criteria similar to m.ed regular course. just clear it or tell the sggestion i'm a highly qualified girl and as i felt there is no use of education in rajsthan . now please answer or raise my voice. please help me i'm a girl and i need a good job. i feel i have spoiled my 2 years honestly is it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.204.240.218 (talk) 14:36, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The List of ministers in Government of Rajasthan names Mangi Lal Garasia as state minister for Primary & Secondary Education, Labour & Employment. This may be a question to which the minister's office would respond. The Rajasthan government web site provides a way to contact them. While you may express concern about the distance learning qualification you are more likely to get a helpful response if you do not accuse them of cheating. Cuddlyable3 (talk) 16:05, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
individual resale
In the UK i regularly buy drinks from local corner stores, often, for instance today I have a lucozade, and on the side it says NOT FOR INDIVIDUAL RESALE. Does any one ever get prosecuted for this. Is it a law of some sort or just drinks companies trying to make more money? and any other info. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.172.58.82 (talk) 15:03, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I know, those restrictions only apply to people buying directly from the manufacturer, and are part of their contracts. They don't apply to individual consumers, to the best of my knowledge. You own the bottle, you can do what you like with it. No contract exists between you and the manufacturer. Of course, if this is anything more than idle curiosity, you shouldn't trust me and should talk to a lawyer. --Tango (talk) 15:19, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) Legally, food and drink items in many countries must comply with local labelling laws (see Food labeling regulations for a description of the situation in the UK only). For example, many jurisdictions require food labels to include ingredients lists and nutrition information. If a food item is packaged in a multipack, for example I can buy a box of Twinkies, where each Twinkie is individually wrapped, the individually wrapped cakes don't have the ingredients on them, just the box itself. So, it would not be fully compliant for a store to sell me the individual Twinkies, since I would need to buy the whole box to get the nutrition information. So, if someone is selling you stuff from an opened box, without the proper labeling, they may be doing so against regulations. You could report this to somebody, who may or may not give a shit. Your chance of getting someone to care and act upon this is vanishingly close to nil, but I suppose there's a chance that if the right regulatory agency were notified, then someone might be able to fine the store for the violation. Personally, I think that reporting your local corner store because they sold you an improperly labeled soda can, and getting them in trouble for doing so, is the height of douchebaggery, but to each his own. It is technically against the rules at some level, I suppose... --Jayron3215:24, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Possibly the selling price or packaging of Lucozade differs in different regions and the suppliers wish to preserve these differences. Cuddlyable3 (talk) 15:47, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This is anecdotal but I think is a more correct reason than the above explanations. I've seen this type of labelling on food and drinks before. Most likely Lucozade is running a promotion and the bottles are pre-packaged as e.g. 2 for the price of 1 or a discounted 6-pack etc. Lucozade would sell these on to the retailer at a discounted price compared to the normal stock price. The retailer is not supposed to abuse the situation by then opening the pack and selling individual bottles at the normal retail price. They are being unethical by doing so as they received the discount from Lucozade and are not passing it on to the consumer. Was/is there any Lucozade promotion going on your area? Do the tops have a different colour or is the packaging subtly different in a way so as to indicate a promotion/competition is undergo? Zunaid16:32, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That label is supposed to prevent the consumer from splitting a six-pack in the supermarket (and maybe trying to insist on paying just 1/6th of the six-pack price). To emphasise the point even further, there is often no barcode printed on the individual bottles, only on the exterior of the six-pack. This is a big deal for a major supermarket because it leaves them with an unsellable "six-pack-with-one-missing". Your small corner shop probably picked up the six-pack from a local cash and carry wholesaler or maybe the same local supermarket you shop at, and is probably selling it on to you at their usual single item price. IANAL, but I doubt they are breaking any law or ripping off anybody (except you, the customer). If you are a bit of a busy-body and it is really bugging you, you could ask the local trading standards office. Astronaut (talk) 17:34, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Digital Converter Box without cable
Hello, I have two questions about a digital converter box. First is whether or not the goverment still offers coupons for purchasing a new box. Second and most importantly, without having any kind of cable service, can a digital converter box pick up any channels? (NBC, CBS, PBS, etc.) Thank you in advance. --67.134.239.205 (talk) 15:14, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
According to the government's website the voucher program is over, so at this point you will have to pay full-price for a converter box. The converter box, when used with a regular antenna, will convert any over-the-air channels you could previously pick up. The main website has a well-written FAQ section to answer other questions, too. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 15:52, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) 1) You're outta luck on the coupons. According to the U.S. government website, the program ended July 31, 2009.
2) If you have cable TV, you actually don't need the converter box, since the cable company handles conversion at their end (before they send the TV down the cable to you), OR they lease you one of their boxes as part of their cable package. Either way, if you have cable, you don't need the box. The box is solely for people who receive their TV via "over the air" signals. If you wish to receive digital TV on an over-the-air signal, you will need to either get a DTV-compatible set with a built-in tuner, or buy a converter box. WalMart and most similar stores still sell them. --Jayron3215:59, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
My problem is I just moved into a new house in New Jersey, but I do not want/need cable. I would like the basic 5 channels for things like the news. I have tried hooking a cable into my TV and I did not receive any reception. If I try an aentena bought from Radio Shack, will that possibly help? --67.134.239.205 (talk) 16:18, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
There are almost certainly major network channels being broadcasted through the air at your house, so you need a regular television antenna to pick up the signals (like from RadioShack), and either an ATSC-compatible television or an older television with a digital converter box (which goes in between the antenna and the television). —Akrabbimtalk16:23, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If your TV is digital, then just the pair of bunny ears may be enough. If your tv is analog (ie:old) then you're going to need the bunny ears and the converter box. APL (talk) 16:28, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The government website says any antennae you already own will work with the converter box, although to receive the best picture you may want to get a new antenna designed for digital TV. A good electronics store near your home will probably be the best place to help answer any questions or address concerns specific to where you are (for example, they may know some tricks on how to place the antenna to improve reception for particular stations). Based solely on your location, you probably will have a number of stations to choose from over-the-air. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 16:39, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree. That web site says "assuming an outdoor antenna 30 feet above ground level". With my rabbit ears on the first floor, I don't even get good reception for the stations in green. StuRat (talk) 21:37, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Digital Radio
I have always, for the past 20 years or so listened to the radio while I sleep. Radio in the Uk has changed to digital. Or mine has at least. Now rather than getting crystal clearreception, I get a garbled sound, this fades out to clarity and back again to garbled, it sounds almost like they are half underwater. why is this, is there something I can do to fix it? I thought that the swicth to digital was supposed to give the consumer better reception, or am I mistaken? Does anyone else experience this. Will I have a similar problem when I change my TV to digital. Further more, I have a freeview box, and every 2 weeks or so I need to switch it off at the back and on again as the names and times of the programs are not displayed, is this a common problem? 1 of my friends has the same issue. My main concern is my radio though, BBC worldservice is just not the same underwater. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.172.58.82 (talk) 16:25, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You've probably gotten used to a certain amount of analog static, and are reacting to the weird garbledness of digital interference.
This is certainly a criticism of the switches to digital. With a strong signal the digital sounds better than analog, but with a weak signal you get a different kind of interference that's harder to ignore.
I'm a little confused. The Digital Switchover in the UK isn't scheduled until 2015. In order for you to receive DAB signals you need to buy a DAB radio. Are you saying that you have bought a DAB radio recently? On my DAB radios is a wire aerial, which I had to find the best position for. Have you tried doing that? Generally, it seems to be the case that certain areas of the UK have poorer DAB reception than others. If you look at this forum [16] you will find some related information on this, and you may get a better answer quicker there. --TammyMoet (talk) 17:26, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
(e/c)First off, many parts of the UK do not receive a decent digital radio signal; either way you won't be able to listen to a digital radio station without a digital radio receiver, and either way you can always improve performance with a better aerial. Perhaps your aerial has broken or become detached? As for the Freeview box, like any computing device it will occasionally crash and it's necessary to reboot it. You will also save some electricity and minimize fire risk by turning it off every night.--Shantavira|feed me17:32, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think your problem has any connection with digital radio, except possibly from interference from digital signals. It is probably just drifting of your tuner slightly off frequency. Where I live, this is the normal situation on FM because the signal is so weak. I usually listen to Radio 4 on Long Wave (better reception than FM), and other channels via satellite. If you have a freeview box, then your TV signal is already digital. Can you not get radio via freeview? Dbfirs21:17, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Funny you should ask about digital TV. I live in Detroit, USA, which is a major city and flat, so reception shouldn't really be a problem. But, ever since the US transitioned from analog to digital, I can't get a consistent good signal, which is extremely annoying. I just have rabbit ears, but that's all I had with analog TV and they worked fine. Right now I'm actually watching an analog station from Windsor, Ontario, Canada, which hasn't yet gone through the digital transition. Even though the station is farther away, I get better reception because it's analog. So, to me digital TV is crap. I wish we had never switched. I'm going to be stuck paying hundreds of dollars for a massive roof antenna just to match my old reception with rabbit ears, it seems. StuRat (talk) 21:26, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
My understanding (will try find a reference) is that at the moment the 'digital' signal cannot be broadcast full-power whilst the analogue signals are still being sent out, once they turn these off (region by region) they'll be able to boost the digital signal output and everyone within the area should (ignoring personalising factors) receive a better signal. I agree though, digital noise is a different kind of annoying to analogue - though how much of that is just getting used to it i'm not sure. 21:29, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
I've had over a year to get used to it, and I haven't. It's not just different, it's worse. With a weak analog signal, you get a fairly consistent snow on the screen over the video and white noise on the audio. With a weak digital signal it cuts out repeatedly. You just can't follow a show that keeps cutting out like that, not like the way you could adapt to snow on the screen. Also, what constitutes a weak signal has changed. Here in Detroit, a weak analog signal was one from Toledo, Ohio or Ann Arbor or Flint, Michigan. Under digital, I have no reception at all from those cities, and stations actually in Detroit are now weak under digital. StuRat (talk) 21:55, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Have you considered the possibility that your converter box is ... not good? I'm not at all convinced that those government subsidized converter boxes are quality pieces of equipment. APL (talk) 22:43, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have what I'd call an upscale version. The ones at Walmart looked like such crap I walked away, and ended up with the Zenith DTT901 instead. But, if even with the $40 government subsidy and an additional $24 each, I still can't get decent reception, that's another strike against digital TV. StuRat (talk) 03:49, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It may partially that your antenna isn't particularly suited for the transmission your trying to receive. You say you have a rabbit ear antenna. Presuming this is really solely a rabbit ear antenna with a loop, this works well for VHF, but doesn't work so well for UHF. It's not clear what channels you used to receive and whether they were all of acceptable quality but if you were primarily receiving VHF channels before and are now primarily receiving UHF channels, this would be a problem. Here in NZ most of the important analog channels are generally in VHF and DVB-t is generally in mid to high UHF (and I don't know if there are any plans to start using the VHF once analog switch off occurs, it may be used for something else) but evidentally things are not so simple in the US [17]. In Detroit however it appears most channels except for Fox are in UHF most mid or high [18] so this may indeed be a problem if you're a dipole only antenna. While not really addressing the question of your analog vs digital issues, you could also try a higher quality indoor antenna or moving around your existing one Nil Einne (talk) 07:15, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I found with a DAB radio that if you move the antenna away from the wall or other solid object it can stop the weird gargling noise you sometimes get. From my experiences DAB digital radio is tons better in sound quality that FM. Chevymontecarlo. 06:38, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Circumcision in Germany.
Just curious to know whether elective circumcisions on non-Jewish baby boys in Third Reich Germany declined in demand, and if so, whether they have re-emerged in popularity. 92.30.74.175 (talk) 17:58, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In the movie Europa Europa, a Jewish boy tries to pass himself off as a German by pulling up the skin over the head of his penis and tying it in place. That ends badly. Woogee (talk) 18:17, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Male circumcision is illegal in Germany with exception for "hygienic, religious or aesthetic reasons".[19] Presumably the influx of Muslim immigrants after World War II will have increased non-Jewish circumcision, but I guess that wasn't what you meant. Gabbe (talk) 23:50, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Does "hygienic" cover all medical reasons? Sometimes it's medically necessary to circumcise a person, for reasons that are not hygiene-related as such. -- 202.142.129.66 (talk) 00:40, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The OP asks about circumcision of Jewish boys in Germany during the 3rd Reich. Surely the local rabbi would have performed the operation. These would have maintained a significant anonimaty for the young males. 86.4.186.107 (talk) 07:36, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It’s a long mail and I request your patience to go through this, because it’s important.
We have a live case, where a pair of House Crows built their nest on the branches of the mango tree in our backyard.
First pair of House Crow (House Crow I) had built their nest some time during November 2009. There were four eggs but only one egg hatched in December 2009. I have the videos covering that event, which I have uploaded on my channel “GeorgeCMaliakal” on YouTube with title ‘House Crow I – Mystery of Vanishing Eggs Part I and Part II’
Now, another pair of House Crows (We call them as House Crow II) had built their new nest on a different branch of the same mango tree in our backyard sometime during January 2010 and laid eggs sometime during first week of December 2010. there were three eggs of which one was bigger and the other two comparatively smaller but of the same size.
Because of the difficult location of the nest, we could cover the event by using a remote camera fixed at the tip of a 30 feet long pole and the event monitored with the help of it’s base unit connected to our TV monitor screen. And the live movements covered by the camera were recorded from the TV monitor using a HD handy cam fixed on to a tripod placed in front of the TV monitor.
Since the total distance between the remote camera and the base unit/ TV monitor was about 50 feet and due to the limitations of the camera we used, we could get only black n white signals and that too without audio.
However, we had also tried to cover the event in colour by using a digital camera placed at the tip of this log pole. But it had its own limitations of memory and battery life. So finally we had to resort to using remote camera and covered the live action from February 14, 2010 for over FORTY days. Even now we are covering whenever they visit the mango tree.
It is worthwhile mentioning the volume of videos taken and the time we spent observing the live events, about 250 edited files, amounting to about 55 GB memory taken over a period of about 40 days, from 7 am to 7 pm. Hope you can very well understand the effort that has gone into this.
Brief summery of events covered so far include,
• Nest with eggs lying
• House crow incubating the eggs
• Two small eggs hatched and the big egg found missing after a few days.
• Apparently, the House Crows found not disturbed by the presence of remote camera and this gave them the freedom of action.
• The mother crow used to incubate the nestlings very often.
• And the parent crows found visiting the nest very often and found taking care of the nestlings.
• Taking something from the nestling’s throat, later feeding them, cleaning them and cleaning the nest were all routine actions in the following days.
• As the nestling grew, we noticed some white spots on the body and the wings of the nestlings.
• We waited and after a few more days after searching the details from relevant sites from the internet we concluded that the nestlings were of Asian Koel and that too, one was male and the other was female.
• We got excited. Though there is a saying ‘Asian Koels are brood parasites’ it was now confirmed and we were witnessing the events live.
• As days passed, the nestlings grew bigger in size, became more active.
• We were now anxiously watching as to ‘what will happen next?’
• We wonder, how a bird can count on number of days and decide when to fledge the nestlings away? Especially in this case where there are nestlings of Asian Koel’s only, in which case the fledging away period is comparatively less than of House Crow.
• The bird’s calls – The nestlings haven’t heard anything from their parents and what they hear is the calls of House Crow’s.
• The nestlings started moving out of their nest and began jumping on the branches near by.
• Now we started covering their movements from below as that was the only way possible.
• It is confirmed from their appearance that one is male and the other a female koel.
• On the 29th day after hatching, they fledged away. Again for another few days, the young male Koel seen spending the night on the branches near the nest where as the young female Koel might have spent the night somewhere else.
• For a couple of day we missed their presence on the mango tree. We thought they have now gone for ever.
• But to our surprise, the young Koels, both male and female, now come and spent sometime on the branches near their nest and fly on the branches of the mango tree.
• All these days we have seen, in a way, their foster parents, keep a very close watch on their movements, feed them and follow them wherever they go.
• Whenever I come out to cover them in the video. The parent crows make their loud calls and try to dissuade me.
• The parents are now busy teaching the young Koels ‘how to make calls? And we find the young ones quite confused.
• At times we hear the young Koels making some short calls like that of the Koel’s, we presume.
The questions that are haunting us today are:
• What next?
• How long will the foster parents continue their control over these Young Koels?
• Where are the parents of these young Koels?
• Or are these young Koels orphans?
• Who will accept them? The crow community or the Koel community? Or will they be accepted by any of these two community? Then what?
• What is the nature’s rule?
Does any one any answers to these?
So far I could find only very limited information from various websites.
I am willing to help and contribute enough materials supporting the above facts.
After all, anybody having had a chance of similar nature, will definitely think of making more information of this nature for public sharing.
You really need to work on making your posts shorter. For example, you didn't need to tell us anything about the video recording methods you used, since that has nothing to do with the Q.
I don't know about this species, in particular, but the way it normally works is that the one species mates, then the male goes on his way and the female lays her egg in the nest of another species (possibly also destroying any eggs already there). She then leaves and neither parent has anything more to do with the young. The eggs hatch (usually quicker than the host species), and, if there's still an egg or chick of the host species there, they might kill it or push it out of the nest, so they get all the food for themselves. They may imitate the other species for a while, but eventually they switch back to their own species, with calls and such being instinct, not learned behavior. They then mate with others of their own species and repeat the cycle. StuRat (talk) 21:12, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia contains articles that volunteers have written. If there are no volunteers who have an interest in four wheelers - it's unlikely that very much will be written about them. SteveBaker (talk) 04:56, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
My mother refused to allow me to buy expensive batteries for my Wii Remotes. As a result, the cheap batteries leaked. One remote now works fine (though it was a close call, and the metal bits still have a slight rust coating) but the other one is unusable.
You can try cleaning the contacts where the battery goes, but if the acid got into the circuit board it's probably all over for it. One future suggestion, store electronic devices with the battery side down, so that if it leaks it doesn't leak into "the works". StuRat (talk) 20:57, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The above mileages per gallon (UK) are given by Suzuki as the Urban - Extra Urban, and combined mileages per gallon of the 1600cc 2 wheel drive SX4 XZ4 (manual transmission)(Petrol engine)(latest 2010 model). I have just bought that car and love it. But having now driven it for 1 month from new, and having driven it locally, and also on the open motorway for several hundreds of miles, without ever having experienced any heavy driving conditions, and having now totalled 850 miles, my combined petrol consumption is sitting at 39.4 miles per gallon. No heavy driving, no racing, only 1 or at most 2 people in the cab, no heavy luggage or shopping, and no labouring in the wrong gear. So where am I going wrong I wonder. Oh, I am well pleased to be getting nearly 40 miles per gallon in a solid 1600 cc car, but how do car manufacturers calculate their published fuel economies? I understand that my query is not in isolation amongst new car owners. Thanks. 92.30.75.57 (talk) 19:55, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Do you let the car coast whenever possible, as opposed to racing from light to light then braking ? Also, do you leave it running while not moving, such as at a drive-through restaurant window ? StuRat (talk) 20:54, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Did you drive at a constant 56 mph on the motorway (or whatever speed is the optimum for your vehicle)? Manufacturers must employ expert drivers who drive extremely carefully to achieve the published figures. I find that my fuel consumption varies with my mood because this affects my driving-style. Dbfirs21:01, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
My understand is that new-cars take some time to 'bed in' in terms of their engines - perhaps it's not running as efficiently at present as it will be once it has a couple of thousand on the clock? The above about coasting makes sense - similarly you say you've done 850 miles in various conditions but how many journeys have you made? Again my understanding is that a car will get lower mpg in short-burst use (e.g. 20 x 5 miles drives to the shop) compared to in longer drives (e.g. 5 x 20 mile drives to the shop) as the engine needs to 'warm up' to run efficiently. Also what proportion of your 850 miles are in each of the 'urban' 'extra urban' bands (or what you expect?). That said i've found my car to be mostly (ball park) exactly what the manufacturer claimed it to be, and there was also a Top Gear episode where they did a big drive test with a Volkswagen Golf (or Polo?) and found it to be almost exactly what the manufacturers claimed (driving in an idealised way) but they also found it lost very little just driving it 'normally' too. ny156uk (talk) 21:26, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Certainly many cars have engine management computers that automatically run the engine in while it's new and gradually improve the MPG numbers over the first 1000 or so miles of driving. Some cars even optimise for individual driving styles (mine does - and when I drive my car with my wife's copy of the electronic key fob - I can tell that it doesn't perform the same way it does with mine). But in general, if you can keep your RPM's in the 1500 to 2500 range, you'll get the best MPG. Assuming you have a tachometer, keep an eye on it as you pull away and as you drive on motorways. Make sure your tires are inflated to the higher end of the allowed pressure range. If your car requires high grade petrol - use it - the penalties caused by the car's computer trying to avoid pinging by far exceed the cost savings in lower grade gas on cars that require it. Turn off the A/C and open the windows instead at low speeds...but at high speeds, you need to keep the windows closed even if that means you have to turn on the A/C. You'll be surprised at how gently you have to drive, and how often you have to change gears to keep it in the 'sweet spot'. Most people who think they drive gently - do not! SteveBaker (talk) 04:53, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Our MQ-1 Predator article says "The total number of Predators in U.S. Air Force use as of March 2009 were 195 Predators and 28 Reapers". By chasing the reference (a 2009 NYT article) you find "Including drones that the Army has used to counter roadside bombs and tiny hand-launched models that can help soldiers to peer past the next hill or building, the total number of military drones has soared to 5,500, from 167 in 2001." 94.168.184.16 (talk) 22:47, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have it on good authority that there are warehouses out there full of Predators and Reapers - the problem being a shortage of pilots to fly them. (Which, incidentally, is one of the things that the company I work for is attempting to change. See: [20]) So the confusing numbers may be due to the disparity between the number that the US military "owns" versus the numbers it has "in service". These are remarkably cheap aircraft - built with whatever technology was at hand at the time. For 100% sure there are going to be a heck of a lot more of them out there in the future. SteveBaker (talk) 04:42, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Although it does seem a bit extreme to me that they could only find enough people (I appreciate more then one person may be needed for various reasons) to fly ~225 drones Nil Einne (talk) 07:18, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Stunt men use giant airbags, but also know how to land to put all their weight on their back and don't reach terminal velocity. If you're talking about potentially landing on your head at terminal velocity, then, no, I don't think so. StuRat (talk) 21:45, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
From this calculator (using the default settings), it seems that the terminal velocity dropping from a mere 30 ft (190 ft/s) is reasonably close to that from 10,000 ft (221 ft/s). Clarityfiend (talk) 00:54, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Clarity, I haven't checked why you got the wrong answer, but you certainly did. The formula relating velocity, distance (s), and acceleration (ignoring air resistance) after starting from rest is v² = 2as, so for a 30-foot drop you have v = sqrt(2×32.17×30) = 43.9 ft/s: far short of terminal velocity for a person falling in air.
If you're dropping at 5 times the speed, you have 25 times the kinetic energy. Dropping into something like foam might still work, but you'd need a layer quite a bit thicker. Indeed, people have fallen from damaged planes and survived impacts at or near terminal velocity -- in the case of Nick Alkemade, without major injury, even. What he landed in was trees with interlocking branches, then snow on the ground. So this demonstrates that it is possible.
By the way, the Burj Dubai was renamed when it opened; it's now the Burj Khalifa. --Anonymous, 01:38 UTC, March 30, 2010.
I think it just meant "any building no matter how high", like saying "any mountain up to Everest". Confusing "till" and "to" in such uses is a common error of some non-native English-speakers. --Anonymous, 04:23 UTC, March 30, 2010.
Ah, I get it now. It's a calculator for terminal velocity, which is irrelevant to short falls. In other words, it's not telling you what speed you'd reach if you jumped from 30 feet above ground; it's telling you what speed you'd reach if you started from 30 feet above sea level and fell until you stopped gaining speed. In other words, either you're jumping into a vertical mineshaft or you're flying above some place like the Dead Sea. The reason it wants the altitude is that the lower the starting altitude, the more air friction there is, so the terminal velocity is lower. --Anonymous, 05:44 UTC, March 30, 2010.
If you can find The Worst-Case Scenario books, one of them (I think the first one) talks about how to maximize your chance of survival from a long fall. You'd have to look for it, but I think it recommends trying to land on your back, on something that will help distribute your momentum (i.e. "break your fall"), even cardboard boxes. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 01:32, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
determination of numeric categories for cpt manual
how and who determined the numbers to be used for the current procedure terminology manuals used in physician offices and hospitals —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.3.97.186 (talk) 22:26, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I guess that's not as completely ridiculous as it looks because that point is close to some little islands in French Polynesia, but obviously then it wouldn't matter, they could look generally east or west (which is what happens anyway, it doesn't really matter if their eyes don't connect to the Kaaba in a direct line). And if they were stuck on a rickety boat that was not convenient for praying, they wouldn't have to pray anyway. Adam Bishop (talk) 02:31, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Is "face the Kaaba" even defined? Do they look along the line of the great circle connecting their location to Mecca, or directly through the Earth in a straight line, or doesn't it matter much as long as they're looking vaguely in the direction of Mecca and thinking Mecca-like thoughts? -- 202.142.129.66 (talk) 03:05, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Being stuck on a rickety boat in the middle of the South Pacific i'd say is indeed a cause for prayer! :) -- Ϫ03:40, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Although it is full of "citation needed" tags, our Qibla might be of some help. A Google search for qibla also shows numerous websites that help determine the direction of Mecca. That's awesome! Adam Bishop (talk) 03:52, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Aha! From Qibla: "If someone is inside the Kaaba, or the exact opposite point on earth, they are allowed to pray facing any direction." Thanks for the link! -- Ϫ04:02, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If Cal.'s pot law passes, how/where/from whom can I buy an ounce IMMEDIATELY?
California currently has a ballot measure legalizing pot for individual users (not just for medical purposes). I think the illegality of pot is outrageous and, if the ballot measure passes, I want to buy an ounce immediately as a political statement -- I mean, literally, the very first minute I can do so. But where would I buy it? (Seven-eleven? Walgreens? Obviously not -- they'll take a while to get it in stock! But ... A hip independent liquor store? A former "medical marijuana" center?)
To avoid wasting your time, please don't point out that the law could be pre-empted by federal laws -- I know that. Please presume the question applies to a situation with no pre-emption. 63.17.82.46 (talk) 04:23, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think you have the right idea with the medical marijuana suppliers. However, I bet the bill doesn't go into effect immediately, so you'd have to wait until it does. StuRat (talk) 04:37, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I mean "when the law goes into effect." I want to see long lines of people all over the state, lining up to buy pot the second it becomes legal ... just to make a statement against outrageous, draconian prohibitions. 63.17.40.224 (talk) 08:03, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The law proposed is similar to the law where I live. Individual possession is decriminalised, but possessing trafficable quantities is punishable. Local users buy from illegal dealers or grow small amounts at home. The justification given is that the individual users, while creating a market, are not encouraging a new market, so need not be punished. Steewi (talk) 04:41, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Steewi, what is your source for the assertion that pot won't be legal for SALE, as opposed to possession? Also, the word "decriminalizes" is incorrect; the correct word is "legalizes." 63.17.83.49 (talk) 07:27, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I take back the above question to Steewi, because I've affirmed he/she is wrong. Sale of less than an ounce per transaction will be legalized, except to minors or if forbidden by (subsequent) local "blue laws." 63.17.40.224 (talk) 08:03, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
For those looking for a reference, here is an LA Times story on the initiative from a week ago; and our article Cannabis in California has some information. To the original poster's question, the medical marijuana outlets obviously have the supply; the thing to check would be whether the initiative, or the law enabling distribution of medical marijuana, specifies any penalties for a medical marijuana outlet that distributes to those without a card from a doctor. Comet Tuttle (talk) 04:57, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
LIC’s Wealth Plus is a unit linked plan that safeguards your investment from market fluctuations, so that your investments are protected in financially volatile times. This plan offers payment of Fund Value at the end of policy term, based on highest Net Asset Value (NAV) over the first 7 years of the policy, or the NAV as applicable at the end of the policy term, whichever is higher. NAV of the fund will be subject to a minimum of Rs. 10/-. The policy term is 8 years with an extended life cover for 2 years after the completion of policy term. This plan will be available for sale for a limited period.LIC India Wealth Plus --V4vijayakumar (talk) 04:57, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Unit-linked means that your premiums (or investment amount) pay for 'units' within a fund - the units go up (or down) and your investment is worth units x unit-price - any charges. The basic premise (based on the above wording) suggests that your Fund Value will be the 'peak' fund value at the time of the plan ending (e.g. you invest 1,000 and your fund goes up to 4,000 by year 5 but ends at 3,750 - you'll get 4,000). Life-cover wise you get cover for 10 years (2 years longer than the plan) - typically this will mean that if the policy holder dies within this time a lump-sum amount will be payable. You should seek 'financial advice' from a professional if you want to understand if this product is suitable for your needs. 194.221.133.226 (talk) 08:20, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Inclusive development and Inclusive finance
a.What is Inclusive Development? Its Origin, Principle,Scope of study,Objectives and Importance.
b.What is Inclusive Finance? Its Origin, Principle,Scope of study,Objectives and Importance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.70.77.194 (talk) 08:34, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
Coursework?Froggie34 (talk) 10:02, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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