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July 19

Right to vote

I couldn't find an unambiguous answer to this, hence this thread. Am I eligible to vote for or against an article's deletion, granting adminship to a user, promoting an article to FA status, demoting an article from its FA status, etc, given my experience so far? --Магьосник (talk) 01:37, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

The succinct answer is yes, as any user with a history of constructive contributions (broadly construed) can participate in discussions. The longer answer is that while you may be eligible to vote, keep in mind that these are discussions, where a vote with no explanation or context will often be weighted less (by the closing administrator, bureaucrat, or Featured article official, respectively) than a vote with a justification, hence the paradigm "!vote". Therefore, sometimes even users who have not any such history are allowed to participate, based on the merits of their arguments. However, this is not the case in "actual" elections such as for ArbCom, Steward, OS/CU, Board, etc., because in these cases voting more than discussion determines promotion or appointment, so there are requirements to prevent vote-stacking. These requirements vary with the election. Intelligentsock 02:31, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Table of Contents

How do you add tocs to article-space? This page doesn't have one. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 02:28, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Pages with a minimum of four sections will automatically generate a Table of Contents. The Magic word __FORCETOC__ will force a table of contents, but I seem to recollect that its use in the articlespace is generally discouraged. Intelligentsock 02:34, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Note that I have moved the article to Extreme clipper in accordance with naming conventions. – ukexpat (talk) 14:43, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

How to refer to a user with no user page?

Resolved

 – [Thanks, all!]. – OhioStandard (talk) 17:28, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi! Can someone please tell me what the right wikimarkup would be when, on a talk page, I want to (1) refer to a new user named "twelvefootzebra", let's say, who has yet to create a user page and, (2) simultaneously make the reference "clickable", and (3) keep it red, and (4) make the click land on the "special/contributions" page for that user? That's what you're supposed to do, right? Or am I out? Many thanks!  – OhioStandard (talk) 02:37, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Like this? Twelvefootzebra

Using this: <span class="plainlinks"><font color="red">[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Twelvefootzebra Twelvefootzebra]</font></span>

:| TelCoNaSpVe :| 02:41, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Whoo hoo! You guys are the best! Cheers,  – OhioStandard (talk) 02:45, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

I think the example provided by TeleComNasSprVen, while in line with your request, is not the best way to "refer to a new user...who has yet to create a user page ", and may in fact be a confusing and pointless use of code. I would recommend linking to contributions, piping the link so that only the username is shown, for example: [[Special:Contributions/Twelvefootzebra|Twelvefootzebra]], or better, using the template {{user}} to generate the relevant links to user, talk, and contributions, like so: {{user|Twelvefootzebra}}, which outputs Twelvefootzebra (talk · contribs). Incidentally, it seems that you have misspelt the username; there is no user registered under the name "twelvefootzebra". Intelligentsock 03:07, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

If it were me, I'd use {{user}} as well. The other example looks like a custom signature which I would take to mean that the user has a bit of WP knowledge and the sig was copied from somewhere. The red isn't the same shade of red as WP's redlinks. Dismas|^(talk) 04:16, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for that Intelligent & Dismas. The second method Intelligent suggests does seem preferable, since the first puts the link up in blue (by default) rather than red, and it seemed to make sense that it should appear in red (although I don't like forcing it to that color permanently with code). The "twelvefootzebra" literal was just an example, btw. I used it because I didn't want to mention the actual user account name here, is all. Thanks again,  – OhioStandard (talk) 04:22, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Lost Book

I have just begun visiting Wikipedia and have been pursuing information on various aspects of history and current events related to Kosovo. I enabled Book Creator and accumulated quite a few articles which I began organizing into chapters. Imagine my dismay to return today and discover that my book is gone. I did finally discover a place that states we must have an account for four days and have done some work on Wikipedia articles. Unfortunately, I was not aware of this yesterday (7/17/2010) and did not create my account until today (7/18/2010).

I gather there is no way to gain access once again to the material I had assembled without starting from scratch.

--M1$ty$m0m (talk) 04:06, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia link that ends with a ")"

When I try to post a Wikipedia link in an email, all links work except the ones that end with a right parenthesis. They look OK in my email but they don't work when my email reaches the adressee. Example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valhalla_Rising_(film)

The addressee sees a message that says that the subject does not exist at Wikipedia, do you mean...

Am I doing something wrong when I try to send such a link? Timoneer (talk) 06:04, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Try replacing the parentheses with escape codes, %28 and %29. eg. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valhalla_Rising_%28film%29 AJCham 06:15, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Works great! Now if I can only remember to do this!Timoneer (talk) 11:57, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Uploading a .JPG image file to an article

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 –  – ukexpat (talk) 14:26, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi I have created a new page entitled 'Cronulla Seagulls' about a soccer club. I am trying to upload the club logo. Via the Upload tool I believe I created a file called Cronulla_Seagulls_FC_logo.jpg. But when I try and link that filename into the atricle it doesn't recognise it. Have I done something wromg? Where is my uploaded file? Your help would be much appreciated. Regards, Nick.Nick palmer69 (talk) 06:20, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

It would appear that File:Cronulla Seagulls FC logo.jpg has been corrupted, as it isn't diplaying at all on my screen. It looks like you uploaded something, as the image information page exists, but it looks like you're going to have to try to upload a new version. Click the link near the bottom of the page that says "Upload a new version of this file" and try again. Perhaps something is wrong with the image file, or something glitched during the upload. --Jayron32 06:24, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

No, it works fine for me and I've added it to the article (click on "edit" to see the syntax needed). However, the article needs references to third-party coverage of the club as at the moment it is rather difficult to see why it is notable in Wikipedia terms, and so is at risk of deletion. Has there been any newspaper coverage about the club, not just about its results, for example? Read WP:CLUB for more information. Bencherlite^Talk 06:27, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

I don't see the image, though it's fine if I download it to my desktop. I'm using IE8. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:36, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

I have fixed the problem - the original JPEG was in CMYK format which IE cannot render (Firefox can). I have uploaded a new version in RGB format and reduced the size to comply with WP:NFCC. – ukexpat (talk) 15:33, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Classic Cigarettes

Resolved

 –  – ukexpat (talk) 14:27, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I uploaded a new article on Wikipedia today but I can't find it when I search for it. The article's name is Classic Cigarettes. COuld you please tell me what the issue is. prefix:Wikipedia:FAQ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Classic.cigarettes (talk • contribs) 06:55, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

The page was created on your user page rather than as an actual article. It is also blatant advertising which is a violation of our rules, so I'm afraid the page will have to be deleted. Creating articles about your own company is very much discouraged – please see WP:Conflict of interest. Your username is also a problem, and I've noted this on your talk page. AJCham 07:06, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

And see WP:SPAMNAME. – ukexpat (talk) 14:36, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Blocked indef, adverts in mainspace and userspace deleted and mainspace page salted for good measure for a couple of weeks. Thank you for bringing your problematic editing so speedily to our attention. Bencherlite^Talk 14:46, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Citations and references

I would like to contribute an article about some Irish bands that were popular in the 1970s but never quite made it in the UK. I have lots of original newspaper articles from the time but, because these all predate the internet revolution, it would be difficult for someone to verify them without physically going to the newspaper archives of, for example, The Belfast Telegraph or The Irish News. Are these sources still acceptable as article citations to verify the veracity and notability of such an article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Terryfic10 (talk • contribs) 09:09, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes. A reliable source is one with a reputation for fact-checking an accuracy. It does not need to be available over the internet, or even easily accessible. As long as it was once published in a reproducible medium, and can still be accessed by someone, it's OK. Someguy1221 (talk) 09:18, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

(edit conflict)That's fine, as long as the publications are reputable, and the articles demonstrate the significant coverage required to meet notability guidelines. The {{cite news}} template is useful for these kinds of references. If you provide as much info as you can about the source (publication, date, issue no., page number(s), article title etc.) it makes it all the easier to verify. AJCham 09:22, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Is there a reason for the underlining on this page?

On the page for Desert climate, the second paragraph is underlined. Is there a way to remove it? Or does it have to do with the Reference necessary template? DandyDan2007 (talk) 10:45, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

The underlining is a deliberate side-effect of {{Reference necessary}}. It is trying to make it clear that the entire paragraph needs references. I've not run into this template before; it seems to be more usual to place {{Citation needed}} at the end of the paragraph. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:25, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Facts related to an inground swimming pool

Can someone tell me how much water there would be in a swimming pool that is 20'w X 40'l and at the shallow end it is 3' deep and at the deep end it is 9' deep. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.92.79.233 (talk) 12:58, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Please use the reference desk next time. Basically, you add up 3' and 9', then multiply that by 40', and divide by two, so you have the base area of the swimming pool. Simply multiply the result with 20 to get the whole volume of the swimming pool. Kayau Voting IS evil 13:12, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

This sounds like homework, let's not help too much.--SPhilbrickT 13:26, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Infobox question...

In the "Swimming" infobox, there is a centered label for "size," as can be seen here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Ddbruce

The top infobox has three centered labels with faint lines underneath.

How do I make these centered labels in a regular infobox?

Thank you, ddbruce —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ddbruce (talk • contribs) 14:00, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

{{Infobox swimming pool}}, like most other info boxes, makes use of the {{Infobox}} template to get its work done. The parameters to {{Infobox}} are taken three at a time, eg header5, label5, data5. If you look at the source for {{Infobox swimming pool}}, you'll see that it uses label8 + data8 to get the word "Owner" as a label and, say, "D Bruce" as the text next to it. But for the "Size" it uses header23 and omits both label23 and data23, and this gets you a centred heading.

Centred Heading
Label at the left	Text at the right

...but before you get carried away, remember that you are going to need reliable sources to demonstrate that the Senator P. Eugene Casey Memorial Pool meets the general notability guidelines. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:24, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

What if I am the source? I work there. -ddbruce —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ddbruce (talk • contribs) 23:05, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

With all due respect, no you are not a reliable source. Please see WP:RS and WP:V. – ukexpat (talk) 01:18, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

I do not take offense to that, however, if I choose to state hours of the facility or the size of the pool in gallons, I have to reference that? I highly doubt there is a book or article published on this particular swimming pool.

Ddbruce (talk) 03:13, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Looking for a third opinion about revision to Rick Scott page

Over the weekend I discussed a change I proposed to the Wikipedia article for Rick Scott with another editor, but I'm at a bit of an impasse. What I would like to do is replace this paragraph:

In April 1987, while a partner at Johnson & Swanson, Scott, along with two former executives of the Republic Health Corporation, a Dallas-based hospital chain, made a $3.8 billion all-cash offer to purchase the Hospital Corporation of America (HCA). HCA's board rejected the offer.

It's not technically wrong, but it was the first try on Mr. Scott's part to buy HCA, which he later succeeded in doing. So here is the expanded version I have suggested:

In April 1987, Scott made his first attempt to buy the Hospital Corporation of America (HCA). While still a partner at Johnson & Swanson, Scott formed the HCA Acquisition Company with two former executives of Republic Health Corporation, Charles Miller and Richard Ragsdale. With financing from Citicorp conditional on acquisition of HCA, the proposed holding company offered $3.85 billion for 80 million shares at $47 each, intending to assume an additional $1.2 billion in debt, for a total $5 billion deal. However, HCA declined the offer, and the bid was withdrawn.

I've kept all the existing sources and included some new ones, including the Washington Post and Associated Press. The other editor I spoke with does not seem very opposed to the change, but didn't think the new material added much. I disagree with that, as I explained on the talk page there, Mr. Scott made the deal with two executives from a corporation he had previously worked with in a big sale (Republic Health). In addition, the offer was not rejected outright, but considered and then declined. And of course, HCA did later agree to be bought by Mr. Scott.

I did not make the edits directly because I do have a financial relationship to Mr. Scott, and then having read WP:COI before I approached this page, I want to be very careful. I'd like to make this page more informative and better-written overall, but I seem to have got stuck here. Unfortunately, there is not a lot of activity on that Talk page, so it has just been myself and this other editor so far. I'd appreciate it if somebody here looked at the proposed material, and if you agree it meets Wikipedia's criteria and is worthy of inclusion, please make the change or signal your consent on the Talk page. Thanks in advance. Thirteenth Florida (talk) 16:01, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

References

As long as you keep off the "Mr. Scott" and other violations of our manual of style, this edit seems sound. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:47, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Thank you Mike. I definitely do not intend to style my writing for the article like that, as you can see from my proposed excerpt above. I'm only referring to him that way here in "Talk page mode". Thanks for taking a look at this, I appreciate it. I will make the change soon. Thirteenth Florida (talk) 17:09, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

To blog, or not to blog

When, if ever, can a blog be Wikipedia acceptable when it comes to using it as a reference? I want to use this interview with an author, which has been taken verbatim from the teensreadtoo.com website and used within a writing blog (with full credit given).[1]--Onthemap (talk) 16:08, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

The guideline is here. As I understand it, you can cite the interview as a source of information, but you need to provide, in addition, independent sources to establish that the author is notable. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:25, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Cheers John. Many thanks for the info. I want to do an article on his book, rather than the author, but i needed to know if I could cite the interview as a ref.--Onthemap (talk) 17:15, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Cite the interview from its initial appearance, not its "reprinting" in the blog; just as you would cite an article from a magazine on its original publication, rather than a reprint in an anthology. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:26, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

For establishing notability there are various factors involved, independance is one, an interview with the author isn't independant so isn't of much use. Teensreadtoo has a section entitled "Author Services" here which doesn't overall bode well for the neutrality of the source, from the sounds of it offer to do and interview or sponser a prize and they'll help promote "you". You can also get help on evaluating reliability of sources as the reliable sources noticeboard. --82.7.40.7 (talk) 19:25, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Good point, 82.7! If the website fails our reliable sources test, a republication of something of theirs in a blog is only more so. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:27, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Dear 82.7. Please get off my back and stop trolling my every movement. For your information, although had I wished to consult your good self I would have written on your talk page, I wanted to establish here if an interview on a blog could be used as a reference for information. Not to etstablish notability, just as a reference for information. I hope I have made myself clear.--Onthemap (talk) 15:31, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Trolling your every movement? This is a public board and I am just as entitled to comment here as anyone else, I don't need to wait for you to ask, if you don't want advice then don't ask on a public forum. As for the nature of your question not being about notability, I'll note that the other respondants have also framed it with regards notability. I hope I have made myself clear. --82.7.40.7 (talk) 19:26, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

prob with article

hi, im a fan of the northern irish band "Therapy?" I know there is an entry for the band as it shows a blurb of the article on google but when i try to access the page i am redirected to the main article on the word Therapy with no disambiguation page? Is this an error or has the page been removed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.132.139.229 (talk) 16:53, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

That's odd. Therapy? is still there, and when I type "Therapy?" into the search box that's where I end up. But I've added a hatnote to Therapy so that it's easier to find next time. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:12, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

It depends how you try to access a page name with a question mark. See Wikipedia:Naming conventions (technical restrictions)#Question marks and plus signs. Typing it in the browser address bar doesn't work. MediaWiki and most other programs don't include it when generating links from url's. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Therapy? doesn't work, but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Therapy%3F works (see meta:Help:URL#URLs in external links). It works for me to click the link in Google search results. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:19, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

duplicated AFD report

Resolved

Hi, looking for Admin help to delete a duplicate AFD report. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Peter_Buttigieg_%282nd_nomination%29 thanks. Off2riorob (talk) 19:59, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Poof! TNXMan 20:06, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Off2riorob (talk) 20:15, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

accommodation in shostka ukraine

hi can you help me i am going to shostka for a holiday and been looking on the internet for hotel or apartment in the city can you tell me any names of places and where can i book them thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.211.210.30 (talk) 20:13, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. TNXMan 20:17, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

CONFIRMING RESOURSES

Im trying to start a page on record producer Kyle West. I need references so the page isn't deleted. My question here is that his credits are all over wikipedia and already and his work is on You Tube. Would that be sufficient enough as resources to "confirm" his page? Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.101.115.217 (talk) 21:51, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

No, that's not sufficient. You can see our standards at WP:N and at WP:BAND. --AndrewHowse (talk) 22:12, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

And for people, WP:BIO. – ukexpat (talk) 01:20, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Kyle West, as it currently stands, is an unreferenced biography and will likely be deleted. The article's creator, User:Keywestmusicinc, has the appearance of a WP:COI and some username problems. --AndrewHowse (talk) 17:04, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

It is a clear violation of the user name policy and I have reported it to WP:UAA. – ukexpat (talk) 14:29, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Jellyfish

Do jellyfish die when they are washed ashore during a high tide or do they stay alive until the tide returns to wash them back out to sea?

If a jellyfish is squished in part of the top of its mantle will it die? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.164.160.4 (talk) 22:30, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Have you tried the Science section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. TNXMan 22:30, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

July 20

1 billionth user

I was wikipedia's 1 bilionth user and it said there was a prize i could retrieve....to see if this was real, i refreshed the page and the notification was gone. what do i do now? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.239.57.140 (talk) 01:27, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

It wasn't real. Currently 48,458,412 have made a Wikipedia edit or registered an account, of course nowhere near 1 billion. (Since I know there will be someone that says "What about being the 1 billionth hit?", that isn't the case either, since Google alone accounts for 1.67 billion hits per month, about a quarter of Wikipedia's total traffic in the same period.) And I can't imagine a nonprofit such as the Wikimedia Foundation having enough budgetary room to give away a prize that's worth anything. What did you do to arrive at the page where the notification appeared? Xenon54 (talk) 01:34, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Hold on. Wikipedia gets 7 billion hits per month? Hallpriest9 (Talk) 01:39, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

(edit conflict)

First of all, there are not even near 1 billion users on Wikipedia. According to The statistics page in Wikipedia's software, there are only about 12.7 million users on Wikipedia (ATM). Second, you are an IP (anonymous) user, and not a registered user. Third, the page was likely a scam. Where, might I ask, did you see this "prize announcement"? Hmmwhatsthisdo (talk) 01:40, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

I think I saw the same thing in the article London. A blocked (not banned, blocked) user made the edit _{which is confusing, since blocked editors can't edit}. Here is the link. The Raptor ^{Let's talk}/_{My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions} 01:42, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Mmkay. First, the person was blocked 4 minutes later. Second, it was someone's cruel joke. Hmmwhatsthisdo (talk) 01:57, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

You should know that if you had clicked the link it would have geolocated you and given you a message saying, "A package of Viagra is on it's way to your home. Please enjoy!" Crude, in my opinion. Mr. R00t ^Talk 02:10, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

That made me laugh a bit. Crude, yet a little funny (yes, I know I have a bad sense of humor) Hmmwhatsthisdo (talk) 03:43, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Problem with staying logged in

I logged in today and clicked on the link to my watchlist. But instead of taking me to my watchlist a screen came up that said "you must be logged in to view your watchlist." So I clicked the link to log in, and suddenly, without typing in anything, I was logged in again. This happened to me twice today. What's going on? The Raptor ^{Let's talk}/_{My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions} 01:38, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Weird, so I'm not the only one having this issue. Does anyone else know why? sonia^♫♪ 11:12, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

This has happened to me too. It used to appear very, very frequently but has decreased during the past few months. Kayau Voting IS evil 11:28, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Well, I'm no expert with this kind of thing but maybe there's a problem with the Cookies somewhere. The Cookies are used to remember that you're logged in. I know this is not much of a help, but that's what I suspect the problem's caused by. Chevymontecarlo - alt 11:31, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Hmm. For me, this has happened for the last week or so on my two most frequent computers, only for enwiki and not for any of the other Wikipedias. Also, my watchlist has started taking a horrendous amount of time to load when it does load. Can one have too many pages on a watchlist, and should I clean mine out? Can cookies cause that too? sonia^♫♪ 11:34, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

_{Wait a second....you closed my RfA, didn't you?} But on a more serious note, you could be right, Sonia. Same goes for my watchlist. In fact, it sometimes takes so long to load, it's faster if I look through the pages I remember putting on my watchlist instead of waiting for it to load. Do you think we should report this to ANI? The Raptor ^{Let's talk}/_{My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions} 16:31, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I believe I did. But I don't gather what it has to do with ANI at all- it'd be a good idea to take it to VPT though. sonia^♫♪ 23:24, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Alright I'll take it there. The Raptor ^{Let's talk}/_{My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions} 23:27, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

how do i get the instution on how to get started

i really would like help non getting started —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jimsisk63 (talk • contribs) 02:36, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

If you mean getting started writing an article, read the standard advice below. I'll also leave you a message on your talk page.

A Wizard is available to walk you through these steps. See the Article Wizard.

Thank you.

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines with which all articles should comply. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article. You might also look at Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. An Article Wizard is also available to walk you through creating an article. TNXMan 02:40, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

"Congratulations! Wikipedia's one-billionth user. Click to collect your prize!"

I got this message: "Congratulations! Wikipedia's one-billionth user. Click to collect your prize!" while on this Wikipedia link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil

Is this an exploit? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.213.184.42 (talk) 03:10, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

See above, twice. – ukexpat (talk) 03:20, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

one billionth??

Congratulations! Wikipedia's one-billionth user. Click to collect your prize! <-----------------got that message on my phone a few minutes ago when I tried to look something up. Couldn't click on anything so I copied it and emailed it to myself and still can't click on it though it's in huge red letters. This some kind of joke or add or something?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Matpoe (talk • contribs) 03:25, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

See the question immediately above yours. Dismas|^(talk) 03:29, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Infobox, again...

How do I add a list in an infobox, as seen at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senator_P._Eugene_Casey_Memorial_Pool

I would like to do this without a template.

Thanks, Ddbruce (talk) 03:25, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Infoboxes are templates. Also, what do you mean by "a list"? Please be more specific. --erachima talk 03:31, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

See how the "Size" caption is centered with a faint line underneath, and all the text under it is centered?

I want to do it without a "infobox swimming pool" template, per se, and add fields myself, etc.

Ddbruce (talk) 03:35, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

One reason for infoboxes is so that the standard information can be displayed in a uniform fashion from article to article. If you go create your own infobox then that uniformity is lost and the encyclopedia loses a polished appearance. It's best to keep the standard infobox for whatever the subject of the article is. Aside from that though, you have a larger issue of showing how this particular pool is notable. If I were you, I'd concentrate on that first. Dismas|^(talk) 03:42, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Are you saying that a state park run by a particular organization is notable, yet a pool that is a MEMORIAL to a deceased senator, and run by the same organization, is not?

Oh, and if you're concerned about Wikipedia losing that "polished" appearance, I suggest you change the "infobox swimming pool" template. If you didn't realize, I am trying to make my infobox look like YOUR template. NOT my own thing.

Ddbruce (talk) 03:48, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

I'm not saying it is or it isn't. What I am saying is that you haven't shown that the pool is notable. And no, I haven't looked up our notability standards for pools, if we indeed have any. At the least, it should pass the general notability guidelines.

I do wish you'd calm down though. There's no point in making this an argument. There is no "your template" or "my template". You're entitled to make just as many changes to the standard swimming pool template as I am. Since you're new here, I would like to make sure to point out that if you do change the current template, it will affect several articles. So by changing something, you may end up breaking the way that those articles are displayed. Dismas|^(talk) 04:41, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

I wasn't looking to change the current template, I was looking to make mine - without using that particular template - look the same. The reason for not using that template is that I want to put in fields that aren't normally accessible, i.e. "Renovated," "Builder," "Manager," perhaps.

I'm not looking to change other articles, I just like how the "infobox swimming pool" looks, and I do not know how to make mine look like that.

Thanks,

Ddbruce (talk) 13:16, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Take a look at the {{Infobox swimming pool}} template page for assistance. – ukexpat (talk) 15:32, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Is there a place where I can find the source to that template? -Ddbruce (talk) 00:08, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes. Go to the template page and hit the "edit" link at the top. It will show you the code that is used. For more assistance in making templates, see Help:Template. Dismas|^(talk) 00:18, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Articles are edited by many people and it's best to use the same infoboxes for the same type of subject. The documentation at {{Infobox swimming pool}} says you can have up to 5 user defined fields with label(1-5), data(1-5). That should be enough. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:33, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Honoring Brazilian architect Oscar Neimeyer . This could be in a Rio newspaper ., but nowhere on internet was any space for this .

This information should go t an appropriate newspaper in Rio . I have a very natural prperty along the Arrow Lakes in B.C. Canada. 3 acres is along Bowman Creek and this will be a nature conserve with only paths to walk on and enjoy beautiful nature . On part of it I want to make some signs honoring significant people whom the world knows for their contribution to moter earth . In this case Oscar Niemeyer has designed the most beautiful buildings in many places . As he is 102 years old , and still designing , I want to put this plaque with his picture at a beautiful, scenic spot overlooking the Arrow Lake . There will be some others honored there as well. For instance . Frank Lloyd Wright will also be honored there . There will be others honored and known far and wide throughout the world ..

Could you please send a copy of this to the very great , Oscar Niemeye

Thank yoy, Jack Oswald —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.77.220.60 (talk) 04:47, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.Template:Z25 Someguy1221 (talk) 06:46, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

enwiki-20100130-pages-articles.xml.bz2

Hi all, I downloaded a file (enwiki-20100130-pages-articles.xml.bz2)thinking that it has all the articles of Wikipedia (whole encyclopedia). I have expanded it using a compression utility but dont known from which application to open that mega file of 24.8 GB. Plz help! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.193.110.186 (talk) 09:11, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

You're not likely to find it useful to view that XML file as one document. The only way you're going to be able to make sense of it is by installing the MediaWiki software yourself and then following the instructions here to import the file. At that point you'll basically have your own local copy of Wikipedia. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 10:47, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Article disappeared - help! New article appeared published but days later cannot find it and re-directing to another article.

Hi! I recently tried to create my first article, on Desktops as a Service, which was sufficiently different to Desktop Virtualiation to have its own entry (it had previously redirected there).

It wasn't perfect, but it was a starting point written by some expert IT implementers, to get the definition and online conversation started.

Days later - it has disappeared and again redirects to Dekstop Virtualisation. DaaS is not the same as DVI and is in fact a sub-set of it.

I cannot even find the original article. What happened and what can I do / change to have the article loaded? Would love some help and advice to get going again.

Thank you! natasja —Preceding unsigned comment added by Moltentech (talk • contribs) 12:05, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Look at the history page for Desktop as a service. You will see that another editor recreated the redirect. Please discuss this issue with that editor. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 12:11, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia is an inappropriate venue if you want "get the definition and online conversation started". Dougweller (talk) 15:07, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Can someone help me upload my article?

Hi, a few days back I uploaded an article on Wikipedia by the name of Pritish Nandy Communications. There were some issues and another editor, karenjc, userfied the article for me and shifted it to my userspace saying that since the article was notable and verifiable, there was no point in deleting it. Karenjc even made some changes to the article in my userspace and was in touch with me for a couple of days but now, I have been trying to contact her and there has been no response from her or any other editor for almost 5 days now. The article still lies in my userspace without it going live and I don't know what to do next. Please help! Shishir58 (talk) 12:20, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

I will move it into article space for you now. --Cameron Scott (talk) 12:33, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Except for the fact that I can't as a page exists already with that name and an Admin needs to do it - anyone? --Cameron Scott (talk) 12:36, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Done by Fuhghettaboutit. Xenon54 (talk) 13:19, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

(e/c) Moved. You've put a lot of work into this; good job! Some constructive criticism. The article has far too much list material. You should attempt to convert to prose—instead of listing every movies, every book every television special, detail significant items in naturally text with context provided. Please also note that naked links as sources (while 1,000 x better than no sources!) really should be reformed to list the title of the entry, an author if relevant, the publisher and an accessdate. Using webcitation.org to archive URLs of links that may go away is also a good idea in my view. In any event, here's how I would (and have) reformat your first citation in the history section as an example:

<ref>{{cite web|url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Entertainment/Bollywood/News-Interviews/Pritishall-over-again/articleshow/5976606.cms|title=Pritish...all over again!|last=Manuel|first=Mark|publisher=Times of India|date=May 27, 2010|accessdate=July 20, 2010}}</ref>

This particular source might work better with the template {{cite news}}, but since it appears many of the citations are web based, I wanted to use cite web because it will be more suitable example for other citations throughout the article. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:22, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Dear Cameron, first off, thank you! Finally someone's helped! Appreciate the compliment too, put in a lot of time researching every claim that I've made. I have some questions. Evidently, I'm very confused about the re-formating of the citations. I'll talk to you further on the article's talk page. Look forward to your support. Shishir58 (talk) 14:48, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Dear Fuhghettaboutit, thank you too. Karenjc did say that she would clean up all the re-directs. Up until now there was no article on the company, Pritish Nandy Communications. Just one on Pritish Nandy, an individual. Talk further on the article's talkpage.Shishir58 (talk) 14:48, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

2x silly questions

1. What is secure.wikimedia.org for and why do editors link there for diffd
2. What does it mean by 'Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data. Please try again. If it still does not work, try logging out and logging back in' and how to avoid it

Thanks. Kayau Voting IS evil 12:39, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

1. For people that are (or think they are) at risk of eavesdropping, either by others on a WiFi connection, an overzealous ISP, their government, or just because they're paranoid. People link there because they use it, of course; they aren't going to take the effort to convert the links to normal unsecure links because you still end up at the same diff.

2. Most of the time, I find that appears because I've spent a long time on the edit window without pressing "preview" or "save". The way to avoid it, I guess, would be to do regular previews. I'll leave a more thorough answer to someone who actually knows what they're talking about. Xenon54 (talk) 12:53, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

1. See also Wikipedia:Secure server.

2. If it happens then try your browser back button and if your edit is still in the edit window then click save again. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:07, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Posting Information to Wikipedia

I am interested in having information on an individual added to Wikipedia. How would I go about doing this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.128.224.6 (talk) 13:19, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Before you do anything else, is the individual notable by Wikipedia's definition? In order to be notable, the individual must have significant coverage (i.e., a full story in a newspaper about him, not just a mention of his name) in several reliable sources. These sources then must be cited by the article to verify information about the subject. If the individual is indeed notable, and you are not related to him, then please register an account and read Your first article. Xenon54 (talk) 13:24, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Also, make sure that you are not directly related to the subject, as this may constitute a conflict of interest. Hmmwhatsthisdo (talk) 03:41, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Update my account

Hi.! I just get a message who told me to update my account-and ask for password and everything-does this realy come from you-it have your logo and everything on.??? Brian M Sørensen. <blanked> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.172.85.94 (talk) 14:46, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

If you are editing from an IP, you have no username or password to update. If you are using an account, you can ignore these emails. They will not affect your ability to log in. TNXMan 15:01, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Articles created by user Wiki tool

Due to the creators toolserver account being expired, my usual wikitool that shows a list of articles created by a specified user is not working anymore. Could someone please provide me with a link to a similar tool? --Saddhiyama (talk) 14:56, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Does this link work for you? TNXMan 14:59, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Excellent. Link bookmarked! Thanks. --Saddhiyama (talk) 15:04, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Then something needs editing to replace the old one with the one that works, right? Dougweller (talk) 16:09, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Saddhiyama, where did you access the old link? TNXMan 16:16, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

It was a different tool than the one you linked. I used http://toolserver.org/~byrial/artcreated.php before. --Saddhiyama (talk) 18:45, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Need help changing a heading

July 20, 2010- Need help changing a heading Several months ago, the Morris K. Udall Foundation was renamed by Congress to the Morris K. Udall and Stewart L. Udall Foundation. I have changed the content of the entry but cannot seem to change the header. Help! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.56.108.239 (talk • contribs) 15:25, 20 July 2010

I moved it to the new name ~~ GB fan ~~ ^talk 15:36, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Vermont Grassroots Party

I was the founder/chair of the Vermont Grassroots Party(VGP) and I just read an article about the VGP in Wikipedia with false information. There was never a Jason Scuglick in the VGP and he was never a candidate for the political party I founded/chaired. Everything else in your article about us is pretty much accurate. I'd appreciate it if you would delete this Jason Scuglick who had nothing to do with the VGP. Sincerely, Denny Lane —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.142.42.101 (talk) 15:31, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Shortlived vandalism, already taken care of. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:13, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

group=notes, named ref?

• Is there a way to change {{#tag:ref|content here|group=notes}} into a named ref? I tried {{#tag:ref name="ThisName"|content here|group=notes}}, but it didn't work... I'm working on en:User:Ling.Nut/Sandbox, and have both "Notes" and "Footnotes"; the "Notes" contain longer passages of text. I want to be able to used named refs to point to them more than once... if that's clear... Tks• Ling.Nut 15:40, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

You've almost got it. The 'name=' in 'ref name=' is an attribute, and has to be passed as a parameter in {{#tag:}}. The correct syntax is: {{#tag:ref|content here|name="thisname"|group=notes}}. Intelligentsock 15:53, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

I love you. • Ling.Nut 16:02, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Any MiszaBot gurus about?

Resolved

 – [Thanks!]. – OhioStandard (talk) 17:25, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Can anyone tell me what will happen when MiszaBot runs out of space (hits an article-talk-pages' maxarchivesize parameter) in its current subpage and finds that the next-numbered subpage already exists and has text in it? I ask because such a situation will be coming up before very long with regard to Talk:Medical_cannabis. A user created Archive_3 manually for the article's talk page late last year, and I'm concerned that its existence could cause the bot to fail. Thanks,  – OhioStandard (talk) 16:10, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

I believe it will simply add to the page until that archive is full as well. I don't think the pre-existing page will cause the bot to fail. TNXMan 16:19, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Tnxman. I saw from here that it basically tries to edit a redlink. If that redlink ... um, points to a file that already exists, no problem? Or am I confused about how that would work?  – OhioStandard (talk) 16:26, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

The vast majority of the work the bot does is archiving text to an existing page – it doesn't create a new archive every time, so when it starts archiving to Talk:Medical cannabis/Archive 3 it will just be doing what it usually does. The redlink on the HowTo page is just an example link which happens to be red. It says nothing about how the bot works, which I would assume (with no actual knowledge of its code) is along the lines of IF page exists: append; ELSE: create; AJCham 16:40, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

(edit conflict) The reason I believe it won't be a problem in your case is because there are no issues when the bot archives to a page it created (it can edit a blue link and doesn't have to start a new archive each time). I don't think it matters if another user already created the archive first or the bot creates it. I hope this explanation makes sense, but please let me know if there are questions. TNXMan 16:42, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks again, Tnxman, and you too AJCham. Couldn't be more clear, both of you. I appreciate it! Cheers,  – OhioStandard (talk) 17:25, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

download file?

When I attempt to look up "ACLU", wikipedia wants to download a file. I suspect this is an error. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.165.50.18 (talk) 16:44, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia will not attempt to download a file. I suspect you found material from Wikipedia at one or another mirror site, some of which have been known to mirror our content for reasons of their own. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:11, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Social Networking Icons

I am looking for a image of all the social media networking icons. They are all on one page. Does anyone have the location of this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.8.109.161 (talk) 18:27, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Where do you see these icons grouped together? I don't see them at Social network service or Social network. TNXMan 18:40, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

They don't have one. They're looking for one. Rock drum _Ba-dum^Crash (Review me) 18:43, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Commons has a category for Social network icons. TFOWR 18:46, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

locating stats

what do i click on to see a baseball players personal stats like height and weight? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.35.141.77 (talk) 20:04, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

How can I get a new browser window to open when clicking on a link?

I'm trying to add a link on a wiki page. The link works fine but I would like it to open a new browser when clicking on that link. Is there a way to do this?

Thanks! Ziggysdaydream (talk) 20:15, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

There's nothing in the Manual of Style about making links open in a new browser which leads me to assume that it is impossible, as if it were I'm almost certain there would be a manual of style guideline forbidding it. AJCham 20:19, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

I thought maybe you could force it with HTML, e.g. <a href="http://" target="_blank">article</a> and disguise it as a plain link with a span class maybe, but I researched the issue and apparently they turned this ability off on purpose. I'm with AJCham on that I don't think it's a good idea to do this at all. Most people nowadays are quite sophisticated about operating their browsers and do not want this forced on them. You can set most browsers to automatically open links in new windows or new tabs and, depending on the browser, you can right click or shift click to get the choice of new tab or new window at any time.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:13, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

In HTML, you would do it with something like:

<a href="http://example.com" target="_blank">Example</a>

But, the MediaWiki software only parses certain HTML tags, which does not include <a>...</a>; see Help:HTML in wikitext. Bottom line: you can't do it. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 23:13, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

I, for one, am quite happy that this isn't done. I like to determine what is opened in a new window/tab and what isn't. I hate it when sites try to force new windows/tabs upon me. Dismas|^(talk) 00:31, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Right click the link, then select "open in new window" or "open in new tab" (works on Firefox). Mjroots (talk) 11:24, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

I don't think it's a good idea to try to force this type of behavior anyway. Depending on user's browser configuration, it may not be obvious that a new window or tab has opened (i.e., "I clicked the link, why didn't the screen change?"). Seems like a standard user/browser preference issue. But I obviously don't know the context of your particular situation to be able to speculate on whether it's a good idea or not for this link. OTOH, it also contradicts that Wikipedia itself has an explicit control for how users want this to work "Open external links in a new tab/window" in the User interface gadgets pane of the preferences. If a user specifically chooses "no" there and a Wikipedia page acts as if "yes", that's a poor user experience. DMacks (talk) 09:38, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Piracy promoting articles

Why does wikipedia allow for users to post articles that detail and promote illegal ROMs, Emulators, and various other piracy devices? I am very concerned that Wikipedia is not doing its part to delete all piracy promoting articles and links that lead to sites that offer piracy materials. All articles that discuss ROMs and the above listed must be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.67.252.109 (talk) 20:18, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia allows for articles detailing these things because it is not censored. It does not, however, allow articles to promote anything, legal or otherwise. AJCham 20:21, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

PS, if there is an article that you feel violates our rules against advertising, please feel free to correct the problem (leaving a helpful edit summary) or bring it to editors' attention by making a note on the article's talk page. AJCham 20:28, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

First off, we do not advertize anything. If you see an article which seems promotional in tone, whatever the subject, please notify the appropriate venues (here being about as good a place as any) or tag it as {{db-g11}}, the speedy deletion tag for ad pages. Secondly, we do not censor information about illegal actions or subjects, and this is as true for piracy-related material as it is for our article on cocaine. --erachima talk 20:43, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

I reverted a lot of your edits because you removed content about emulators etc. Just because they are illegal or disputed does not mean we will censor their inclusion. I reverted all of the removal because it was a complete blanking of emulator stuff following what appears to be your POV - I advise you seek consensus on their removal or be more specific on what is removed. (am leaving a talk page note also) --Errant Tmorton166^(Talk) 21:06, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

incorrect paragraphs in info on Bogalusa, LA--none of this is correct nor even sensible-Bogalusa Chamber

Here’s the passage on the website:

On May 27 2009, a biologically engineered virus, known as VR212, was leaked due to a ruptured valve tank that was in transit to Temple Inland Inc. which took over Galylord Chemical Corporation after 1995 chemical spill. The virus was exposed to citizens of Bogalusa in a matter of days. The CDC received reports of what could only be described as "Zombies." Local police forces were overwhelmed by the infected, and in five days 94% of the population transformed into flesh eating "Zombies." Symptoms include broken blood vessels in the eyes and a permanent state of rage in which the infected individual seeks out others in an attempt to "feed." The city was immediately placed in quarantine and remains so to this day. News coverage of the event was eradicated so as not to alarm the nation.

A little over a year later, there has been no found cure for the virus. Research teams thought they were close to finding a solution with a Chinese tea known as Kombucha. They began testing it on "Indie Zombies," those found wearing skinny jeans. After injecting the "Zombies" with the tea they seemed to 'detoxify' and show signs of renewed health. However, this progress came to a halt thanks to washed up, ginger actress Lindsey Lohan. Lohan, who was on probation for drug and alcohol charges, set off her SCRAM bracelet after consuming too many Kombucha teas. This drew attention to the fact that Kombucha has a relatively high level of alcohol, due to the fermentation process, and the tea was pulled from all store shelves. On Tuesday, July 20, 2010, Lohan began serving a 90 day jail sentence, not because of violating her probation like the entertainment news shows and sites had suggested, but for ruining the chance of survival for an entire city. When asked for a statement regarding the matter, Lohan responded by saying she did Bogalusa a service and "the only thing worse than a Zombie, is a drunk Zombie, I would know." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bogalusachamber (talk • contribs) 20:24, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism, reverted. – ukexpat (talk) 20:42, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Two points:

• The vandal should learn about Uncyclopedia, which is a whole wiki dedicated to joke articles.
• The username: Bogalusachamber may violate Wikipedia's WP:ORGNAME policy. User names are to represent distinct individuals rather than groups of individuals, although users do not need to reveal their real names.

--Teratornis (talk) 21:10, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Undone edit

Did i do the right decision to revert the most recent edit on Tinie Tempah's page?Gobbleswoggler (talk) 20:27, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Looks like it, yeah. Section blanking is a pretty common method of vandalism and also an easy way to innocently screw up an edit, so reverting it on sight will only rarely end up being the wrong decision. --erachima talk 20:46, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Can someone do my homework for me?

I can't be bothered and it's too hard. Will pay via paypal. It's an English paper, 6 pages, MLA, on the topic of constipation: when you can't poop properly. Needs to be done by Wednesday at 2 P.M. EST. Thanks, Charles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.138.255.225 (talk) 21:51, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, Wikipedia doesn't do homework. We'll help you if you get stuck though. TNXMan 22:19, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

No. Do your own homework. RadManCF ☢ open frequency 22:29, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

The only thing we can tell you to do is look at articles relating to the subject. You'll have to take it from there. Sorry, but that's the way it works around here. The Raptor ^{Let's talk}/_{My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions} 22:37, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

no do your own home work hope you top your form

YOURS billy jp

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—Preceding unsigned comment added by Billyjoepie (talk • contribs) 01:45, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

User page messed up, but I can't figure it out

Resolved

My user page is now messed up with my main text somehow getting shoved into the sidebar. There must be a template that has gone bad because the problem shows in history too. Can anyone help me figure out what is going on?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 23:06, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

My first thought is that you've forgotten to close a table somewhere. Intelligentsock 23:11, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

It turns out {{Boxboxbottom}} was originally a redirect to {{User box bottom}}, which has recently been moved to {{Userboxbottom}}, creating a double redirect that the bot could not fix, as {{Boxboxbottom}} is protected. This caused {{Boxboxbottom}}, when transcluded, to produce only a link. Intelligentsock 23:18, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

The double redirect has been fixed. –xeno^talk 23:19, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

But I just fixed it... after your post:-)--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:28, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 23:30, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

July 21

Translate to English

can someone help me to translate my project in english please..."Noong hindi ko pa kilala si Hesus bilang tagapagligtas ng buhay ko ako ay palaaway at devoted sa mga santo at sila ang aking tagapagligtas, para sa akin ang aklat ay para sa mga taong kampon ng diyablo, kapag nakakakita ako ng taong may dalang bible tinataguan ko sila sapagkat ang alam ko sila ay papunta sa impyerno. ganon ang buhay ko noon. purihin ang Diyos at nakilala ko sya bilang tagapagligtas ng aking buhay. dating masama pero ngayon ay binago niya ang buhay ko at tinawag upang magbahagi ng salita ng Diyos sa mga taong nangangailangan ng kaligtasan. napasarap palang maging anak ng Diyos may kapayapaan at tiyak pa ang kaligtasan. tinawag niya ako. purihin ang Diyos na buhay. sa kanila po ng aming pagsubok masaya pa rin po naming naibabahagi ang salita ng Diyos napatunayan ko din na ang Diyos ay nanatiling tapat at biyaya niya ay sapat sa amin. sa ngayon ay may maliit kami na simabahan kasama ang mga myembro na masayang naglilingkod" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joannedaze (talk • contribs) 00:32, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Have you tried the Language section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps.Template:Z38 PrimeHunter (talk) 00:41, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia isn't really a translation service. However, there is a free translation service that Google runs, which automatically detects a language. Use it instead.  A p3rson ‽ 00:53, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Requesting closure

Where is the best place to request a closure of a merge discussion? (located at Talk:Jack Conte#Merge?) Jujutacular ^T · C 01:05, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Audio book of How to win friends and influance people.

Do we have Audio book of How to win friends and influance people.

if yes, then please provide me a details, like Price and how to place the order and other details.

From : <blanked> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.254.30.79 (talk) 01:36, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.Template:Z25 Calvin 1998 ^(t·c) 01:51, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

You could also try looking on one of Wikipedia's Sister projects. I think that one of the other "reading material" wikis contains some audiobooks. Hmmwhatsthisdo (talk) 03:38, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Question about a topic-banned user

There is a user (whom I'm not going to mention by name just yet) who is currently topic-banned from making edits broadly related to race, ethnicity, and religion. Thing is, in the past few days he has made quite a few edits to Talk: The Black Book, which is the discussion page for an article about the Nazis. One of these edits specifically mentions the words "jews" and "freemasons" (without capitalization). While "Nazi" isn't a race, ethnicity, or religion per se, the Nazis are primarily known and are notorious for their racial and ethnic ideology. So, I'm not sure whether this user is acting in violation of his topic ban by making Nazi-related edits; is he? If the answer turns out to be "yes", then I will provide diffs of his edits and a link to his talk page so that further action can be taken. However I'm not going to mention him by name right off the bat because I don't want to embarrass him if he hasn't been doing anything wrong. Stonemason89 (talk) 01:47, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

It's difficult to say without knowing more about the scenario, but I appreciate why you don't want to reveal too much information here, and commend you for your approach. Whether The Black Book should be regarded as "broadly related to race, ethnicity or religion" is perhaps a judgement call – I'd been inclined to say that it is for the reasons you mention, but have little doubt that other editors could put forward a good opposing argument. It might not be relevant, however. What was the scope of this topic ban? A topic ban can apply to article space, article and talk space, or the entire project. If this ban does not cover talk pages, then he is of course not in violation. AJCham 02:01, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

From the Editing Restrictions page: "XXXXXXX is banned from editing any article, including talk pages, broadly related to race, ethnicity or religion for a period of 6 months. Any violations of this topic ban may be met by rapidly increasing blocks from any administrator, up to and including an indefinite block." So yes, it does apply to talk pages. The reason why he was topic-banned in the first place was because of his tendency to push far-right (white nationalist) POV, as well as his behavior toward other editors who reverted his edits. Stonemason89 (talk) 02:19, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Well, in that case I would say yes; in my opinon he is in violation of his topic ban. However, as we've already said, it is potentially borderline. As such I would personally feel it inappropriate to act too strictly in response, unless there is strong indication that he is deliberately flouting the ban, rather than making an honest attempt to adhere to it. The better option may be to politely note on his talk page that The Black Book is within the scope of the ban (that is, assuming others agree with my evaluation) and that he should refrain from participating there immediately. Doing my very best to avoid letting personal feelings get in the way of fair and neutral comment – didn't realise how tricky that can be. For what it's worth, the edit that is in question here does not appear to be the kind of POV-pushing that got him banned. AJCham 02:43, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure I should be the one to warn himself, though, since I've gotten into arguments with him before and he really doesn't like me; thus, if I post the warning on his talk page it will just provoke him further. Stonemason89 (talk) 16:53, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Link to closed deletion discussion

I have placed the AfD template on the article, but is there a way to link it to the closed discussion? Pkeets (talk) 02:16, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

From WP:AFD: If the article has been nominated before, use {{subst:afdx}} instead of {{subst:afd1}}, and replace "PageName" with the name of the page plus a note like "(second nomination)" for a second nomination, etc. See Template talk:Afdx for details. Dismas|^(talk) 02:24, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

The AfD page is linked on its talk page -->Talk:Masami Tsuruoka so before someone would nominate it again they would see it and hopefully think twice.Moxy (talk) 02:51, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Reference upload?

Sorry to bother you but I have been asked to place a reference to out Lions Club on the wikipedia web site I have created the content and saved it(to where I have not idea)it has not appeared on the site I wanted it to in fact on no site: so I must have done something wrong, perhaps you could steer me in the right direction:Northlfeet & Ebbsfleet Lions Club; I want my content to go into the Northfleet section where there is a reference to Northfleet Rotary club. can you please assist me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Northfleet & Ebbsfleet Lions Club (talk • contribs) 09:11, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

The info you created is on your user page. Unfortunatley, your user name is in breach of WP:ORGNAME, and indicates that there is a conflict of interest between yourself and the Lions club. A mention of the Lions Club is probably justified in the Northfleet article, but it is unlikely that the club warrants a stand-alone article per WP:CORP. Mjroots (talk) 11:13, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

copyright

I have taken my bio from my website to put it on wikipedia...this is also part of my books, how can I keep it there?...it is certainy not an infringement—Preceding unsigned comment added by Musicvisions (talk • contribs)

Note above added by Musicvisions (talk · contribs) and refers to the Miriam Jaskierowicz Arman article. This article was apparently created by the subject of the article. Mjroots (talk) 11:08, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Since permission is claimed, CSD G12 no longer applies and I have sent the article instead to review by copyright problems. Please note that we cannot use the text unless you release into the public domain or freely license it using a license compatible with ours. That must be done in a verifiable manner such as changing the copyright notice on the external website to a free license, or emailing the Volunteer response team from a domain name clearly associated with the external link stating the release. We cannot use any copyrighted material by permission, because our licenses requires that material here be able to be reused by our readership, so it has to have a compatible license to ours. For more on these matters, see Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials, and pay special attention to the section under the heading Granting us permission to copy material already online.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 11:52, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Doesnt' somebody who knows enough about such things also want to explain at least some of the applicable "Wikipedia is not a ..." instances that apply, WP:NOTE, etc., the rules about not creating an article about oneself, etc. ? Seems like that would/could save Ms. Arman a lot of time, not to mention OTRS or whoever it is that deals with copyright issues.  – OhioStandard (talk) 12:53, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

WP:COI (quite unfortunately in my view) is a guidelines without any teeth. The subject of the article does not appear to have any notability problems (see, e.g., here. But yes, Musicvisions: please see WP:COI, WP:AUTO and WP:NPOV. In short, you are an expert on yourself, but you are incapable (as we all are) of writing about yourself neutrally, which is why you should not be the person to write the article.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:16, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Is there a tag I can add for...

Is there a tag I can add to an article that will create a box that says something like 'this section needs to be shortened or condensed'? Thanks. Chevymontecarlo 11:23, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

{{Very long}} should do the trick. Mjroots (talk) 11:29, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! Chevymontecarlo - alt 05:27, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Fun with wikicode!

Resolved

Suppose I added the first sentence below to an article's talk page, signed my contribution with the usual four tilde characters, and hit "save". Then further suppose another user came along and appended rest of the wikicode/markup thats shown (in edit mode) below:

• I vote maybe, absolutely maybe, there's no valid reason for anyone to express any other opinion, and I'll sit on the dairy products of anyone who tries!  – OhioStandard (talk) 12:40, 21 July 2010 (UTC) — Ohiostandard (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

Can anyone explain to me what the purpose and affect of the following trailing code that's included above might be?

{{ #if: | The preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added at {{{2}}} (UTC).}}

It doesn't seem to do anything... unless it prevents SignBot from coming along and appending the username/talk/contribs info of the account who added the wikicode? If that's the case, I'd be curious to understand how it does that, if anyone is feeling especially ambitious and charitable. ( And being directed to "The Big Book of Wikicode" that must exist somewhere. ) I'm reasonably familiar with several programming languages if knowing that would make anyone more likely to try to explain how it works. Thanks,  – OhioStandard (talk) 12:40, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

it does do something if you add a date into the spa like this: {{subst:spa|GB fan|12:46, 21 July 2010}} it creates — GB fan (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. The preceding unsigned comment was added at 12:46, 21 July 2010 (UTC)., ~~ GB fan ~~ ^talk 12:47, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

It is so that you can add unsigned and the spa wording with one template if the spa didn't sign. ~~ GB fan ~~ ^talk 12:48, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Got it, thanks so much! I'm always impressed at the extent and depth of technical knowledge available here. Can you also tell me where I should look to learn more about wikicode without just asking y'all?  – OhioStandard (talk) 13:16, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

I just picked it up from playing with it the last few years. Don't really have any advice as to where to go to learn it. ~~ GB fan ~~ ^talk 13:21, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Okay, thanks!  – OhioStandard (talk) 13:46, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:MIJO LOGO.png

Hi

I tried to upload this logo twice and both times received the "Orphaned non-free image File:MIJO LOGO.png" and it was deleted by a bot. Here is the link to the logo, it is on the public MIJO website: http://www.mijo.com/mijonet_web/public/skin/MIJO_LOGO.png

What do I have to do to get this accepted by Wikipedia. This logo is for my article for MIJO.

Thanks in advance for your help.

James Murday 13:01, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

The problem is that the logo must have been uploaded under a fair use rationale as a non-free image. Fair use images can only stay on Wikipedia if they are used in an article. As there is no article MIJO to use the image in, it gets deleted because it is not used. I would recommend writing the article first in your userspace, then ask for feedback. Then when the article is ready from a text point, move it to the mainspace and add the picture. ~~ GB fan ~~ ^talk 13:14, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

I see you are writing a userspace draft, User:James Murday/James, so when it is ready and moved to the mainspace, then upload the file and add it to the article. ~~ GB fan ~~ ^talk 13:18, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Family members

I am a family member of a recent bio that was posted, and provided the information on her page. It is due to be deleted. How do I reference our own family? Liederbacher (talk) 14:18, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

You can't. Sources that we use for Wikipedia articles must be publicly published, publicly available reliable sources. Unpublished family records, oral tradition and the like are of no value to us in this project. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:29, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Denied a WIKI page without any real rational reason

Dear Help Desk and WIKI community, I have been in a rather one-sided discussion with some WIKI editors the past 2 days. We have tried to start a WIKI page about our unigue organization, The Curreny Exchange Fund NV, or TCX, based on the clear evidence that nearly all of our sister and parent organizations have WIKI pages. Here are a few of the organizations nearly identical to ours and that are part of our organization that all have WIKI pages: KfW, IMF, JBIC, Netherlands Development Finance Company NV, European Bank for Reconstruction and Development - just to list a few. I tried writing and communicating very logically and reasonably with the WIKI editors listed in the text I copied before the user nmae was completely deleted, but instead I got back what seemed to very emotional answers and then deleted. Could someone in the WIKI community please advise me. Thanks in advance! Please see the quoted copied communication below.

Communication pasted from User talk:The Currency Exchange Fund NV

This blocked user (block log | active blocks | autoblocks | unblock | contribs | deleted contribs | abuse log) has asked to be unblocked, but an administrator has reviewed and declined this request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy). Do not remove this unblock request while you are blocked. Request reason: "Mitchell, as I have already explained in the text above; The Currency Exchange Fund NV is a unique, one of a kind organization and methodology for hedging cross currency swaps limited to emerging market currencies for global development banks and lenders. This extremely original concept and organization is a multilateral global effort. Also as I already mentioned, most of these global development banks and lenders ALSO have WIKI pages - these are our direct owners and shareholders. Considering that WIKI has allowed nearly all of our investors to have a WIKI page, could you please explain exactly why it appears we cannot? I will take this issue as far as I have to if neccessary. Please provide a clear explanation why the other organizations that are very very similar to us and have nearly the indentical purpose as we do, why these organizations and institutions are permitted to have WIKI pages and we are not? Here is a short list of organizations either nearly identical to us or that are our direct owners that all have WIKI pages: KfW, JBIC, Netherlands Development Finance Company, AFDB, International Finance Corporation, International Monetary Fund, European Bank for Reconstruction and Development. Please let me know if you need more examples. Looking forward to receiving your explanation and response. Thank you" Decline reason: "The reason this account is blocked, as explained in the block notice, is nothing to do with whether your organisation is notable enough to have an article; it is because Wikipedia accounts have to be for individuals, and under our username policy "role accounts" which represent, or appear to represent, organisations are not allowed. JohnCD (talk) 13:19, 21 July 2010 (UTC)" If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read our guide to appealing blocks first and then use the {{unblock}} template again. Note that misuse of the unblock request procedure may result in the removal of your talk page editing privileges for the duration of your block. This blocked user (block log | active blocks | autoblocks | unblock | contribs | deleted contribs | abuse log) has asked to be unblocked, but an administrator has reviewed and declined this request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy). Do not remove this unblock request while you are blocked. Request reason: "John, thank you. I repeat, please clearly explain why ALL of the organizations listed above may have a WIKI page and it appears that now our organization cannot. If you cannot clearly explain this then I will need to esclate the issue. thank you" Decline reason: "No grounds for unblocking provided. The existence of pages for other organizations does not mean you get to insert an article about your organization; as far as we know, KfW is not written by KfW, JBIC is not written by JBIC, etc, etc. Please familiarize yourself with our conflict of interest and neutral point of view policies to understand why. As far as "escalating" the issue is concerned, I'm not sure what you mean, but please make sure you're not verging on legal threats; we're very touchy about that here. --jpgordon::==( o ) 13:45, 21 July 2010 (UTC)"

Above lengthy post is an apparent block evasion by User:The Currency Exchange Fund NV. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:32, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

JohnCD provided you with links to the pertinent guidelines at the bottom of the talk page for the account that has been blocked. Sean.hoyland - talk 14:41, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Mike and Sean, however no one seems to be able to - not a single response has adequately addressed my question although I have repeated and repeated it. Could you please explain this? I will now contact these organizations and ask them to place posts here and on their discussion pages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.132.106.198 (talk) 15:35, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Please review the policy on Conflict of Interest. It may help your situation.--Unionhawk ^{Talk E-mail} 15:37, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

To clarify the situation here, as you seem to misunderstand. The reason you have not received the explanation you seek is because nobody is claiming that your organisation may not have a Wikipedia article about it. As has been explained on your talk page, an article may be created and would be acceptable on condition that it meets our guidelines on neutrality, verifiability and reliable sourcing. According to the deletion log, the article you wrote did not meet these guidelines and was deleted as blatant advertising. The communications you have copied here are about a block which is nothing to do with any article, but is related to your username which is not permitted per our username policy – see WP:ORGNAME. AJCham 16:00, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

With respect to explain why the other organizations listed may indeed have WIKI pages and our organizations may not, please read WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS - we are talking about this deleted article and no others. Re I will now contact these organizations and ask them to place posts here and on their discussion pages. - please don't, that would be disruptive and will get you block for WP:DISRUPTION. – ukexpat (talk) 17:06, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

2nd request

Two days ago, I posted a request for someone to weigh in on the article about Rick Scott, for which I've proposed an expanded replacement section, but received some muted, not intractable opposition. It's a bit involved, but not very complicated, so if you're willing to give it a look, you can find it on this page above, or click here. Thanks. (Note: This is a modified reposting of this request, which looks to have been accidentally removed yesterday.) Thirteenth Florida (talk) 14:39, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Edited the page "National Minority AIDS Council"

Dear sir or madam,

I recently undertook a substantial editing the page for "National Minority AIDS Council." The page had hitherto been marked with several error messages as exhibiting several errors, but I believe that my recent editing has corrected all of these errors. If you agree, and the page now meets your satisfaction, then might the error messages be removed from the page?

Thanks!

Cressycat (talk) 15:46, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

I removed the references tag, but the others are still relevant. The article is still rather promotional in tone and an orphan is an article with fewer than three valid incoming (not outgoing) links, this article has none. – ukexpat (talk) 17:11, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

uploading a logo

I am in the process of making a page about a company and need to upload the company logo. What is the best way to go about this? Wtferguson (talk) 15:49, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

You won't be able to until your account is autoconfirmed (4 days old and at least 10 edits). Also please read WP:LOGO. Logos can be complicated because most are copyrighted and can only be used here pursuant to Wikipedia's non-free content criteria. I would suggest waiting until the draft is moved to mainspace, then drop me a line on my talk page and I can upload for you. – ukexpat (talk) 16:55, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

I also took a look at your draft at User:Wtferguson/MyEdu and would caution you that without references from reliable sources that demonstrate the notability of the company per the guidelines at WP:CORP, the article will not survive long in mainspace. It may even be speedily deleted because, as it stands now, it does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject. – ukexpat (talk) 16:58, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Also see Commons:COM:CB#Trademarks for information about the copyright status of logos. If the logo is too simple to meet the threshold of originality, you can upload it and license it with {{PD-textlogo}} and {{Trademarked}} (see Commons:File:Boeing wordmark.svg for an example). If the logo is more complex than that, assume it is under the copyright of its creator. You would then need to obtain permission in writing from the copyright holder and document it by following the procedure in Commons:COM:OTRS. If you give us a link to the logo, we can examine it and resolve this conditional branch (i.e., decide whether it could meet the threshold of originality). The precautionary principle is to assume a media file is not free content unless we can prove it is free. That is, if there is any doubt about the copyright status of the logo, we assume it is under copyright. --Teratornis (talk) 18:02, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

autobiography of author

I am a published author - is it possible to create an autobiographical page with links to details of my British Sign Language publications please? Many thanks Cath Cathsmith (talk) 18:27, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

It is not recommended that you do so. Wikipedia:Autobiography should give you all the information you need to show why that is the case. AJCham 18:49, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Another Bill Johnson

Hi,I created the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Johnson_(Ohio_politican) but it doesnt show up here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Johnson , is there a lag time or did i do something incorrectly? thx —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rococo4 (talk • contribs) 18:53, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

It's not an automatic process; an ambiguous term must be added to the disambiguation page by an editor. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:57, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

That article was deleted, as the subject was not a notable person in any way. (You also misspelled "politician" among other words). --Orange Mike | Talk 19:01, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

person with same name not showing up on main page choices

hi i created the page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Johnson but it doesnt show up on the page with the other bill johnson's. is there a lag time or did i do something incorrectly? thx —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rococo4 (talk • contribs) 18:56, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

It's not an automatic process; an ambiguous term must be added to the disambiguation page by an editor. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:57, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Using Friends of the Subject as Citations

I am writing an article for this site on a famous photographer and a lot of the information I'm gathering comes from genealogy websites and people who knew him personally. I know that Wikipedia is very particular about citations so would using certain contacts I have who have given me most of this crucial information be considered a legitimate citation according to Wikipedia's standards? If so how exactly do I cite them? Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zombourine (talk • contribs) 20:10, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Nope and nope. Neither those websites nor those friends qualify as reliable sources as we define them. Genealogy websites are nototoriously full of family stories and lore. As to the old friends: if those friends had published articles in magazines, those articles might be cited; but not just word of mouth and anecdote. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:17, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Pages started by the conversion script but not on Nostalgia

Is there any way to find the original version of an article that (1) was supposedly started by the conversion script and (2) doesn't appear at Nostalgia? The page in question is Reformed Presbyterian Church of North America; I can't find anything at http://nostalgia.wikipedia.org/wiki/ReformedPresbyterianChurchofNorthAmerica or at http://nostalgia.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reformed_Presbyterian_Church_of_North_America. Nyttend (talk) 22:13, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Pichilemu#History

Hi, my English is not perfect and I would like to know if the English is consistent in the following quote from a José Toribio Medina book.

“ The indians that the Spaniards found in that place [Pichilemu] undoubtfully were part of Promoucaes, and they must have formed part of the Topocalma encomienda, that was given in January 24, 1544 by Pedro de Valdivia to Juan Gómez de Almagro. Both facts are deduced from the text of the certificate of that encomienda: «I give to you Juan Gómez, said Valdivia, the cheftains called Palloquierbico, Topocalma and Gualauquén, along with their relatives and indians, that are [living] in the Promoucaes provinces, near the sea coast». ”

Thanks, Diego Grez ^{what's up?} 23:04, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Diego, WP:Be bold also applies here. Kayau Voting IS evil 23:36, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I know, that's why I went ahead and added the quote, just wanted to know if someone is willing to copyedit it. Diego Grez ^{what's up?} 16:02, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Well, if it's a quote, don't fix it! The way the Guardian discourages adding stuff in squared brackets. Kayau Voting IS evil 00:15, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

July 22

User script help

Why does the Search links script not work for me? I've added it to User:Jwillbur/vector.js and bypassed my cache, but the links don't show up anywhere. I've tried it with both Firefox and Internet Explorer. — jwillbur 00:47, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

There are two possibilities here. One is that you've simply missed the links. They show up in the "> Toolbox" section of the sidebar. Second is that you're not actually using the Vector skin (the new layout -- did you elect to "take me back"?). In any case, Special:MyPage/skin.js will redirect to the right skin page. Hope this helps. Calvin 1998 ^(t·c) 01:01, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

When I click on the link, it redirects me to vector.js, so I am using the vector skin. I've looked in the toolbox section for several different articles, but there is nothing there besides the basic links ("What links here", "Recent changes", ...). I thought maybe I had set a user preference which was conflicting with the script so I reset all my preferences to default and it still doesn't work. :( — jwillbur 01:11, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Found it: you have to copy the code on that page into your Special:MyPage/skin.js page -- importing doesn't work. Calvin 1998 ^(t·c) 01:53, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Aha, it works. Thank you for your help Calvin! I wonder why it can't be imported... — jwillbur 02:11, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

It can't be imported because the code on that page includes <source> tags -- not sure why. I looked in the Javascript console on my browser (happens to be Chrome), and that was causing an error. I would just remove them or something, but the page is full-protected. Calvin 1998 ^(t·c) 02:25, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

The source tags add syntax highlighting, although it seems you can get the same effect by moving the page to have a ".js" extension. I've left a note on the talk page. If no one objects within a day or two, I'll make an edit request. — jwillbur 10:21, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

I fixed the script to be 'importable' instead of requiring to be copied. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 22:50, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Delete Revisions?

I made a series of edits to the article on Wonder Horses without noticing that I was not logged in. Is there a way to delete the edits that I made so that my IP Address is not listed?

Kaci Lee (talk) 01:02, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

I was literally going to ask the same thing. This was on the talk page for The Network. Atomforyou (talk) 03:44, 22 July 2010 (UTC)atomforyou

If there is no link to who's IP the edits are from (and I don't see any except for this section), it is probably unnecessary. That said, I could hide the IP if you wanted, or you could request it be hidden even from administrators. Prodego ^talk 03:55, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Aromatic Ring Structure

Did an Aromatic Ring have a molecular structure? If yes, what is it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.164.65.160 (talk) 05:28, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Aromaticity will answer your questions. --Jayron32 05:40, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

delete this?

There is an article about a neighborhood of a city. There are some nice pictures. There are no references, not a single one. This is not a new article. A new article may have references coming but if an article is more than 5 years old but gets some edits now (this year), it should have references by now.

If an article has no references and I can find none, it is possible that this is an article that should be deleted? How do you delete an article without making someone pissed? RIPGC (talk) 05:53, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

You nominate it for deletion following the procedure at WP:AFD. There will be an open discussion, and after a week, if there is a consensus to delete it, an administrator will do so. --Jayron32 06:00, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism?

Is the most recent edit on the page Animal Armageddon vandalism so i know if i can revert it or not.Gobbleswoggler (talk) 06:25, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

There is 2 edits on the page: Oscar Troplowitz.I have reverted one of the edits because it is vandalism.Is the other edit made by the ip address 217.232.96.201 vandalism as well?,Gobbleswoggler (talk) 06:33, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Diffs are a very good idea when coming with a question like that. sonia^♫♪ 08:22, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

For the article Animal Armageddon the last diff (where the trivia section is removed); [2] does not appear as vandalsim to me; though common perception of trivia sections is to remove them entirely, policy (see wp:trivia) there doesnt necisiarly say to blanketly remove them. I suspect this was a good faith edit where the section was merely unsourced and appeared to be one persons view (Original research per say). You can always revert it and welcome discussion on the talk page in your edit summary. The second article Oscar Troplowitz (where it is added that he is jewish) i would also inetrepret as a bit of a good faith edit as well per these edits; [3] and [4] A search on the web shows multiple sources which may indicate that he is jewish, though the editor should be encouraged to supply a source rather than be told directly he is vandalizing. I dont know if I answered your question directly, as Sonia stated you need to be direct about what Diffs your talking about. If i didnt cover your query feel free to post back, but in general i think they are good faith edits for right now that i listed here. This is my opinion of those edits though and as usual, always welcome other opinions as well out there. Ottawa4ever (talk) 09:23, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

picture on french wiki

Resolved

 – added to the article Bruno Côté by User:Diego Grez

What is the process for moving pictures from other language wikis? This one for instance. Off2riorob (talk) 12:45, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Moving it from where to where? It's already on Commons at commons:File:Bruno Côté en 2006.JPG. – ukexpat (talk) 13:23, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, sorry I was a bit vague, I was traveling through multiple wikipedias and got a bit spaced out. Off2riorob (talk) 16:26, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Band article (The Freewheelers)

hello I want to provide information concerning a band, that has played hundreds of gigs so far: the Freewheelers

Now i see there already is a topic called the Freewheelers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freewheelers)

Can I make a multiple entry page?

What are the reasons to have a band in wiki?

Is wiki only supporting big and rich bands (apocalyptica), or are smaller bands also welcome?

Please help me out as I believe in your product.

regards, Bas —Preceding unsigned comment added by Basvossen (talk • contribs) 13:09, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

A band should meet the notability guidelines for bands in order to have an article. Take a look at the guideline and see if The Freewheelers meet at least one of the the criteria. TFOWR 13:18, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

And no, a "multiple entry page" is not the way to go if you can show, with reliable sources, that the band is notable. You'd create a separate article with a disambiguating expression in the title, like Freewheelers (band). Deor (talk) 15:24, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Share an Article

May I share an article via e-mail? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tobyanne27 (talk • contribs) 14:38, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes that's fine, as long as you comply with the license. See Wikipedia:Reusing Wikipedia content. AJCham 15:22, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

I don't think an e-mail to a buddy constitutes republishing that would be covered by the license. – ukexpat (talk) 15:26, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Whilst we're not lawyers, I expect that redistribution of copyrighted material by email would require compliance with the license terms just as any other form of distribution. I doubt that organisations such as the MPAA, BPI or ESA would accept the suggestion that this is not the case, AJCham 16:09, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Well actually I am a lawyer (though not giving legal advice here), and I very much doubt that sending even the full text of an article by e-mail to a friend is "reuse" covered by WP:REUSE. – ukexpat (talk) 16:25, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism?

Is the most recent edit on the page Tzahi Ilos vandalism?,Gobbleswoggler (talk) 15:54, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

You mean this edit? (diffs are always useful in such cases). This change to the number of caps/goals doesn't scream vandalism to me. And there is no need to keep asking. Take a look at WP:VANDALISM and if you think something qualifies, revert it. If you are wrong someone will revert it back and you will learn from your mistake. We all make them from time to time. – ukexpat (talk) 16:29, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi Gobbleswoggler. You seem to be coming here with a lot of these types of questions. Might I suggest that you take the following approaches:

• If an edit does not belong in an article, but is not clearly vandalism, revert and leave an edit summary describing why it is not appropriate, but do not describe it as vandalism or warn as if it was vandalism;
• If an edit, like the one you inquired about above, requires anyone but a subject matter expert to research whether it is vandalism or not, there is no source cited for the edit, nor an edit summary, and the person doing so is an IP or a brand new user, revert and leave an edit summary such as "revert unsourced change with no [[Help:Edit summary|edit summary]]" (also note of relevance here, WP:BURDEN);
• If an editor makes a change and provides a source and it is not clearly inappropriate, assume it is okay unless there is something that flags a problem, such as that the editor's last few edits are vandalism;
• If an editor makes a change and does not provide a source but does leave an edit summary that makes sense regarding the change, revert if it is negative or apparently contentious in any article on a living person; otherwise, assume it is okay unless there is something that flags a problem, such as that the editor's last few edits are vandalism.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 16:43, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Tables

Is there any way I can make each section of a table (such as the one on my sandbox) the same size no matter what? MR. PreZ 16:12, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Does Help:Table#Setting your column widths help? – ukexpat (talk) 16:32, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes, but now I need to know how to make the sections of the table bigger, rather than the "blocks". MR. PreZ 20:03, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

User Page cleanup

I just wondered if someone with the experience could do up my user page not user talk page.For example adding some links or adding templates like the 3 i already have there.Cheers in advance,Gobbleswoggler (talk) 16:38, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

You might find these pages useful; Wikipedia:User_page_design_center/Introduction and Wikipedia:User_Page_Design_Center/Help_and_collaboration/Trading_Spaces for design tips and people who may be willing to design your page for you (if there are no takers that contact you). Hope that helps a bit. Ottawa4ever (talk) 16:46, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Two bands

There is a band called Union but there is also another with the same name. How can i create a page for the 2nd band? Blocpartymad (talk) 17:05, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

You would add a disambiguation see Solstice (UK band) and Solstice (US band). ~~ GB fan ~~ ^talk 17:08, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

But make sure that the second one meets the notability requirements before you start, or all your work could be wasted. --ColinFine (talk) 23:35, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

List of football players with a Fooball League Championship winner's medal

On the above page,can someone change it so it says football instead of fooball?,Gobbleswoggler (talk) 17:15, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

You can! See Help:Moving a page. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:27, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Citing another encyclopedia

Are other encyclopedias okay as sources? The first citation in Second-wave feminism is to Britannica. 213.122.218.215 (talk) 18:45, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

They are better than no source, but we prefer reliable secondary sources. Please see WP:SECONDARY for more on this.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 19:23, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism

Is there a page on wikipedia where I can ask if a particular edit is vandalism/ For the last time,is the most recent 5 edits on the page:Visa requirements for Palestinian citizens vandalism?,Gobbleswoggler (talk) 19:58, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

You can ask here if you really have to or you can leave a note on the talkpage for the article in question. In general, though, you should take heed of what Fuhghettaboutit mentioned above and use your best judgment. I have reverted the article in question because of the unexplained removal of content. Matt Deres (talk) 20:49, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Extend an foreign language article by translating the english article

Can I simply extend an excisting german article or write a new one, by translating the english article of the same topic (that is in almost every case more detailed)? Copying text and source links. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Loki126 (talk • contribs) 20:21, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

You can, but when you do it the other way around you have to add a template to the talk page that states the name of the article and the version of Wikipedia. I presume there's a similar tempalte on the German Wikipedia. This is required in order to maintain the attributions and copyright. Dougweller (talk) 20:46, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Languages

How do I translate an article into another language? I am fluent in Irish and would like to translate some articles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gaillimh32 (talk • contribs) 21:36, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Translation for translations into English. It doesn't have an interlanguage link to Irish. I don't know whether the Irish Wikipedia has advice and templates for translations. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:30, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Please visit Wikipedia:Translation. --Monterey Bay (talk) 00:17, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Product vs. Company pages

I'm running into an issue with the difference between product and company pages, and I'd appreciate a nudge in the right direction if possible. I'm working in the eLearning space and was trying to update a number of lists on Wikipedia to include my company's article when I inadvertently set about an unfortunate chain of events. My company has only one product, so the company page is mostly about the product. That page was added by someone else to a number of lists of products. When the page was removed for being a company page, not a product page, I re-added it, explaining that a number of other links in the list were to company pages, not product pages (with examples). Instead of accepting that, the editor instead re-removed my link and also all the other examples as well! This is unfortunate since some of the other links he removed were to major players in the space, and not including those companies/products makes the list pretty inaccurate.

Is there any sort of policy on dealing with pages that blur the line between company and product? I've looked around but haven't found much. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.23.246.14 (talk) 22:08, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Best approach in these cases, is to have a page for the product, redirect into a section of the company page. Then you can add the product name/link into the list, and keep the content within the company page. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 22:47, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Whether a page is a company or a product page doesn't usually matter, and a page which covers both might be appropriate. What matters is whether the subject matter of the page meets the notability requirements - and there are some specific notes on this for companies. --ColinFine (talk) 23:39, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Perfect, thanks folks. 174.23.246.14 (talk) 23:44, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Title

I have noticed a spelling error in the title of a page and do not know how to edit it. Could you please tell me how? Also, you did not answer my last question on languages, could you tell me why not? An answer to both questions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Gaillimh32. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gaillimh32 (talk • contribs) 23:02, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Pages are renamed by moving them to new target names. This procedure preserves the page's edit history. If you have an account that is at least four days old and have made more than 10 edits (autoconfirmed), you can move a page yourself, Note that if the desired target page name already exists and is other than a redirect with only one edit, you will need an administrator to move the page for you which, for a typo, can be requested at Wikipedia:Requested moves#uncontroversial requests. Cheers.-Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:33, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

(edit conflict) See Help:Moving a page. Have a little patience. Your questions were 90 minutes apart and we are all volunteers. I have added a reply. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:34, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Inter-Wiki Translating, do I include the same references?

When translating from one wiki to another should I include the references from the original article in the new article? Thank you in advance! Lelapindore (talk) 00:56, 23 July 2010 (UTC)