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Top photo

Could a better picture be found? From Commons:Category:Android devices or elsewhere? With the screen lit (no, not lit with the home page or clock or other proprietary screenshot)? Jim.henderson (talk) 14:35, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

To show that we are unbiased, I suggest that the top photo should show at least two models with different OS. Mange01 (talk) 14:27, 22 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I would personally use a iPhone gen 1 for the top photo, as it was the first "modern" smartphone as we know it today 74.198.150.91 (talk) 19:13, 9 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, but that is just plain wrong. Smartphone as a marketing term is way older than iPhone, try reading the article for starters. I've changed the image back to one showcasing Desire Z, as this phone displays more "smart" features than most images in Commons. --hydrox (talk) 21:21, 9 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nokia's N900

Nokia's N900 and Maemo/Meego platform hasn't been mentioned in a smart phone article :O — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.93.49.113 (talk) 03:04, 6 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Critical Historical Information Missing

After Phillips started producing a chips set for digital convergence of phones and the internet, two key plays are not mentioned here that played key roles and the first screen phones and a smartphone with installable Apps. I know because I drove one of the initiatives at Navitel Communications, a company founded by Randy Adams, and the hardware platform developed and driven by Bill Mackenzie, the same guy that developed the Palm Pilot. Infogear did the first integration of a screen phone and internet that I am aware of which was a key transition to the firstsmartphones by Navitel. We were working at Navitel Communications to take that screen phone concept and move it towards the first platform based smart phone for Windows that would support installable Apps. We licensed Pegasus form Microsoft, the precursor to Windows CE and its use in PDA's, and wrote a telephony layer and call manager. Bill Gates laughed at us and stated that "Nobody will ever add value to a phone". Famous last words. Microsoft licensed a year later our technology and absorbed the company and we worked with Microsoft to make that technology into what is now Windows Mobile. The interesting thing is that what people today think is so brilliant about the iPhone UI, is what we had for Windows CE, but Microsoft completely rejected it because it did not have a Start button and did not look like Windows. Their usability experts felt no one would adopt a simple what I called "fat-finger-friendly" UI, because everyone knew the Windows Desktop UI and how to use it. The principal UI designers behind it held true to the discipline that you had to accomplish any task in three touches of the screen with a fat-finger.

I will try to fill in the details when I get a chance, but these early prototypes were key and the early adopters in the development of the smartphone, yet I am surprised that nobody has a clue what really happened. If you dig in Google Books you can find some of the early reviews for these first true open platform smartphones with the first installable Apps, built and installable on Windows. I will have to dig up a lot of the old information I have on the phones. I still have a couple of them around the garage. I think they even work. Maybe I will donate them to the Tech.

http://books.google.com/books?id=bjoEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA51-IA4&lpg=PA51-IA4&dq=Navitel+Screen+phone&source=bl&ots=RCpMNwcC-A&sig=X4YPQo-KqQRRyBzZNPzxw1qGgRY&hl=en&ei=cMxBTon8DPHUiAKxk5zDBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CDMQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=Navitel%20Screen%20phone&f=false

Tatchison (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 02:27, 23 August 2011 (UTC).[reply]

May be you can start to write that at Navitel Communications or at Randy Adams. However, I personally would prefer more reputable sources for that. The book seems okay as a source. Andries (talk) 08:02, 28 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This information is wrong: Smartphones are experiencing accelerating rates of adoption: 22% of consumers already have a smartphone, with this percentage rising to 31% amongst 24-35 year olds.

The Original Olswang report can be downloaded here:

http://www.olswang.com/convergence2011/

It states that 14% of the respondents currently own an iPhone and 22% own another Smartphone!

Hence the total number of consumers that already has a smartphone is 36%.

I guess Emma K Wells should get her analysis straight or at least Wikipedia should not quote her as a reliable source! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.37.116.55 (talk) 14:38, 27 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Smartphones (patents) wars

Hello, it seems there is now a "Smartphone war" ongoing, which should be documented, with Apple at the center, microsoft on the same side, and HTC, Samsung, Nokia, Motorola and.... Google on the other side. I added a timeline, but I think a whole article should be create and developed since we are talking about... a war. Yug (talk) 18:02, 8 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Name

is Smartphone the generally accepted name? most spellcheckers do not recognize this. for example when writing an article should one use smartphone, smart phone or smart-phone? --Infestor (talk) 10:13, 20 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's a neologism. An overwhelming number of the 179 references currently cited in the article use the term "smartphone," without a space or a dash between the "smart" and "phone" words. One can be fairly certain that the term, as a single word, is going to stick and be added to dictionaries and spelling checkers in due time. Lun Esex (talk) 06:46, 21 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

P800 is not the first camera smartphone

Hi, The article wrongly states that P800 is the first camera smartphone. Afaik, the Nokia 7650 was released before it, in Q4 2002. The P800 was delayed and only made it to retailers in Q1 2003. Unfortunately I have no sources about that, I just clearly remind having played with 7650 long before P800 comes out. For now I'm just removing the statement about the P800 being the first camera phone (this is not stated in the referenced link). Hope someone comes up later with some sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yean3d (talkcontribs) 15:50, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]