Jump to content

Talk:Korkoro

Page contents not supported in other languages.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is an old revision of this page, as edited by MorelMWilliam (talk | contribs) at 01:32, 14 September 2011. The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Good articleKorkoro has been listed as one of the Media and drama good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Did You Know Article milestones
DateProcessResult
June 19, 2011Peer reviewReviewed
July 22, 2011Peer reviewReviewed
August 19, 2011Good article nomineeListed
Did You Know A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on June 23, 2011.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the 2009 film Korkoro is a rare cinematic tribute to those who died in the Porajmos?
Current status: Good article
WikiProject iconFrance GA‑class Low‑importance
WikiProject iconThis article is within the scope of WikiProject France, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of France on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
GAThis article has been rated as GA-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
LowThis article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
WikiProject iconFilm: French GA‑class
WikiProject iconThis article is within the scope of WikiProject Film. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see lists of open tasks and regional and topical task forces. To use this banner, please refer to the documentation. To improve this article, please refer to the guidelines.
GAThis article has been rated as GA-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
Taskforce icon
This article is supported by the French cinema task force.
Note icon
This article has an archived A-Class review.
WikiProject iconRomani people GA‑class Low‑importance
WikiProject iconThis article is within the scope of WikiProject Romani people, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Romani people on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
GAThis article has been rated as GA-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
LowThis article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Covering the French reviews

I found out a few reviews 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6. Could anyone help adding content from these links, they are in French.morelMWilliam 18:22, 6 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Copyediting

I'm doing the peer review for this per request, and suggested a copyedit from a member of the GOCE, but a copyedit should only work on the phrasing, not on the content, which was in the process of being reviewed. Edits such as this are worrying, because the page should be as comprehensive as possible and the primary contributor should be consulted before material is removed. So, I'm just making sure that's been done, and that questions are brought to the talk page. Thanks. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 02:40, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm ... I guess I take a broader view of what copyediting entails. In any case, the requester is keeping an eye on what I've done (and has objected to something else I've taken out). We'll hash it out, now that I've finished my slicing and dicing. Clarityfiend (talk) 04:46, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. If you discuss here that would be helpful to me, to I can see what's going on. I'd intended to finish the peer review, and then saw you were copyediting so decided to wait. At this point it's easier for me to have an eye on the conversation as I review the page. Thanks. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 12:47, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I added around 3 sentences from the article that I came across just now : one in the casting section, of a character played by Django Reinhardt's great grandson and the others in the music section, about the java track and Catherine Ringer. morelMWilliam 18:47, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I'm done with the copyediting. MorelMWilliam has suggested expanding the introduction. I'm not certain if that's a request for my opinion or for me actually doing it, but in light of Truthkeeper88's comments, I think it's best to put that on hold for the moment if it's the latter. Clarityfiend (talk) 02:34, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

I've fixed some of the issues raised on my talk page. I'll wait until finishing the copy edit to return to the following which require looking at the original version in the history:

  • Rewording the reason for Claude leaving the orphanage
  • The manner in which the passports were processed
  • Deciding whether to retrieve the cut information from the background section

A very minor issue that needs to be fixed now is that according to WP:MOSTITLE single songs have quotation marks but not italics. If that could be fixed it would be great. Generally I think it looks good. Please check my copy edits for accuracy. Thanks. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 01:10, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the background section, I wasn't aware of the clear template. Now it is fine. And on the processing of passports, Lundy processed their passports, faking their identities, to protect them from the French Gendermarie. To save your time in seeking through the history, the earlier version stated that 'Lundy processed their passports in a way favourable to the Roma'. morelMWilliam 05:50, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Questions:

  • How old is Claude and how does he know about the Romani? Does he just happen to find a caravan or does he actively seek it? I think that needs clarification.
  • Claude is nine years old. He escapes from his orphanage as he is tired of the confined life there and gets into the woods. He doesn't know about the Romani. The Romani come across him later and adopt him. They name the boy, Korkoro. morelMWilliam 15:53, 24 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Processing of the passports: did Lundi not record the movements of the Romani. I understand a manner favorable to them but think it needs to be more specifc - what exactly did she do?
  • The Vichy France used to control the movements of the Romani by monitoring their movements from their passports. Lundi forges it, choosing not to record their movements. This way, the Romani can escape the law that forbidding travel beyond a threshold.morelMWilliam 15:53, 24 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • In the themes section it mentions that it's Shindlerian because of Lavoine's actions - should that be Rosier instead of Lavoine?
  • On a re-read, I'm finding some repetition between the themes section and the reception - try to go through and eliminate everything that's repeated, or at least as much as can be done.
  • MoS issue - quoted material doesn't have wikilinks.

The prose is looking better. I'll continue to pick at, time permitting. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 00:26, 17 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your time. I am very happy to see the way the page has improved. morelMWilliam 15:53, 24 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'd suggest adding in the clarifications about Claude and the passports as you've written here. When I swing through for a final copyedit, I'll fix if necessary. Truthkeeper (talk) 00:03, 25 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Added the clarifications to the plot. Would work on reception section and wikilinking as per MoS later. morelMWilliam 06:32, 25 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]