Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Photography workshop/Archive/Dec 2011
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Matthew C. Perry
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Commodore Matthew C. Perry
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Emperor Pedro II of Brazil
Article(s): Matthew C. Perry
Request: Hi! Could someone create a .png version of the photo to the left (with transparent background) just like the photo to the right? Thank you very much, Lecen (talk) 01:43, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s): Done Made .png with transparent background; cleaned up image removing scratches, foxing, etc. (NOTE: I had to reduce resolution from 300dpi to 150 dpi because .png file at higher resolution was over the 10MB file size limit) Centpacrr (talk) 02:34, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
Angeline Lorraine Tenney Castle
Article(s): Samuel Northrup Castle
Request: Center crop and whiten background. Thanks. KAVEBEAR (talk) 11:01, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s): Done Centpacrr (talk) 11:30, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
- Did some parts of the image change? The eyelash look shorter.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 00:23, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
- Looks like the current image has been made using 'threshold', which is essentially a 1-bit image (look closely at the outline). I have modified the original (using Pixlr no less!) to produce a much better image, but I can't work out how to upload it. Any pointers? nagualdesign (talk) 00:46, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
- Keep at it until you figure it out. JBarta (talk) 00:40, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
- <sarcasm>Thanks for that!</sarcasm> nagualdesign (talk) 01:30, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
- You asked for pointers. You offered no clue as to what your efforts had been and what problems you encountered. On top of that, I have no idea what your skill level/set is. At this time I can be of no use to you whatsoever on any specifics. However... it's been my experience that 1) many people give up (or rely on assistance excessively) when encountering difficulties, and 2) almost any difficulty can be overcome with simple persistance and determination and the benefits of doing so are great. So to my mind, the most useful thing I could offer is to suggest you keep at it until you figure it out. That pointer is far more valuable than you may realize. JBarta (talk) 02:32, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
- As I said, I can't work out how to upload it. Most of the images I've encountered (on Wikipedia) have a link at the bottom of their page that says "Upload a new version of this file". It seems like this image, being on Wikicommons, doesn't offer that simple method. Having spent a good few minutes editing the image I was more than willing to spend time trying to find out how to upload it. However, after reading through many pages of unrelated bumf trying to find a solution, and then using Google to search Wikipedia to no avail, I thought that the most expedient idea would be to perhaps simply ask somebody.
- If I had known beforehand that I would first have to tell people more about myself, blow my own trumpet a little then concede my inadequacies I would have done so. (More sarcasm there.)
- I could tell by the way you dealt with other people's requests that you are perhaps a little bit exasperated, but there is very little requirement for you to be so terse. When you said "Keep at it until you figure it out" it made me giggle because I thought you were being facetious (perhaps I should state at this point that I have a sense of humour), and I then spent another half an hour searching, assuming that you might be impling that the answer was right under my nose. Now I know that you think you were giving me a 'valuable pointer' (thanks Dad!) I'm frankly a little shocked. The answer to my original question would, after all, probably have only required one or two sentences, right? But hey-ho, that's life I guess.
- Would you prefer me to just piss off and leave all the photos to you, or is it okay for me to help out here? I do have considerable experience of photographic retouching, just none of working on this part of Wikipedia. nagualdesign (talk) 05:05, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
- Seriously now, all this thrashing about isn't really getting you closer to getting your file uploaded. Another pointer... stay focused. That said, your ramblings did suggest a possible clue into your specific troubles. Do you have an account at Commons? If not, you'll need to sign up as a user if you wish to upload images there. Hope that helps... and keep at it until you figure it out ;-) JBarta (talk) 05:38, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
- The 'thrashing about' was to let you know that you were being obnoxious and more than a little condescending. Consider it a pointer! The solution was indeed to sign in at the Commons. Given that I always tick the 'sign me in to other wikis' box when I sign in I had assumed that I was signed in at the Commons. Giving me a straight answer (2 sentences) had very little to do with my skill level did it. And I hardly think that the question "Any pointers?" counts as giving up or relying on assistance excessively does it. The 'most useful thing' you could offer was to waste my time, but don't think twice it's alright.
- If somebody pulls up at the side of the road to ask you for directions, do you tell them or do you suggest that they buy a map, or keep driving around blindly until they eventually find their destination? "Take my advice, son, by the time you find what you're looking for you'll know these roads like the back of your hand!" (That was a joke, by the way.)
- Don't worry about this hiccup. I'm sure that we can get along together, as long as you can learn to play well with others. Wikipedia is a team effort, right? If you ever feel that people are wasting your time just remember that Wikipedia is all about giving your time freely. And if you really don't want to give someone an answer say nothing. (Another pointer there.) nagualdesign (talk) 14:34, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
- I'm glad you got it uploaded... and I'll consider myself straightened out. Cheers. JBarta (talk) 18:31, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
- Seriously now, all this thrashing about isn't really getting you closer to getting your file uploaded. Another pointer... stay focused. That said, your ramblings did suggest a possible clue into your specific troubles. Do you have an account at Commons? If not, you'll need to sign up as a user if you wish to upload images there. Hope that helps... and keep at it until you figure it out ;-) JBarta (talk) 05:38, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
- You asked for pointers. You offered no clue as to what your efforts had been and what problems you encountered. On top of that, I have no idea what your skill level/set is. At this time I can be of no use to you whatsoever on any specifics. However... it's been my experience that 1) many people give up (or rely on assistance excessively) when encountering difficulties, and 2) almost any difficulty can be overcome with simple persistance and determination and the benefits of doing so are great. So to my mind, the most useful thing I could offer is to suggest you keep at it until you figure it out. That pointer is far more valuable than you may realize. JBarta (talk) 02:32, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
- <sarcasm>Thanks for that!</sarcasm> nagualdesign (talk) 01:30, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
- Keep at it until you figure it out. JBarta (talk) 00:40, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
- Looks like the current image has been made using 'threshold', which is essentially a 1-bit image (look closely at the outline). I have modified the original (using Pixlr no less!) to produce a much better image, but I can't work out how to upload it. Any pointers? nagualdesign (talk) 00:46, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
On a related topic, some of the images I've created/uploaded (like this one) are now to be moved to the Commons. Would it have been simpler if I'd just uploaded it to the Commons in the first place, even if I wish to use the {{Attribution}}
license? If you could point me towards some useful documentation on the subject I'd appreciate it. I've read Commons:Contributing your own work and Commons:Choosing a license but I know very little about the complexeties of copyright law. I don't even understand the difference between 'Free licenses' ("Free as in freedom"!?) and 'Public domain'! nagualdesign (talk) 15:03, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
- To make it simple: Public domain means you give up any claim to your work. Anyone can use it, modify it, put their name on it. Everything becomes PD eventually, long after the author dies. Free licenses (like CC-BY-SA, the wiki default) allow you to retain certain rights, like attribution. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 18:36, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
- I wouldn't be much help in matching you with a specific license that that you would find agreeable. You'll have to sort that out yourself or find someone else to help you. I simply upload my images as public domain and don't give it another thought. I will say this however... it is very useful, where possible, to upload images to commons rather than to en.wikipedia (or any other language). The main advantage is that the image can now be used by any language and any of the wikimedia websites. JBarta (talk) 18:44, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you both. :-) nagualdesign (talk) 20:07, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
Remove watermark
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Portrait of Henry Ford
Article(s): Henry Ford
Request: Please can you remove the watermark from the bottom right of the image and possibly sharpen the image to make it less blurry. Thanks Peter (talk) 16:41, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
Done Centpacrr (talk) 22:56, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
Sarah Stickney Ellis
Article(s): Sarah Stickney Ellis
Request: Oval crop... KAVEBEAR (talk) 03:04, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s): Done
Death by pussycat
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Blatant fold marks Done
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Light fold marks on L and blue car Done
Article(s): Faster, Pussycat! Kill! Kill!
Request: Touch up the fold marks in both posters. Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:19, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s): Done Centpacrr (talk) 15:02, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
- Seems perfectly fine to me. Thanks. Crisco 1492 (talk) 15:59, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
Hinoi Pōmare
Article(s): Hinoi Pōmare
Request: Clean up the white spot on the left shoulder and next to his legs. Thanks.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 10:33, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s): Done nagualdesign (talk) 03:27, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
Rainis 1880 by Robert Borchardt.png
Article(s): Rainis
Request: Brightness adjustment needed. --Glebchik (talk) 02:41, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s): Done: Pi.1415926535 (talk) 16:22, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
Rainilaiarivony
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Clean up stains and uneven lighting
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Remove bluishness
Article(s): Rainilaiarivony
Request: Do something with them... KAVEBEAR (talk) 14:26, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s): Request taken by User:nagualdesign.
- Done Removed bluishness. Retouched. nagualdesign (talk) 00:45, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
- Done Cleaned up stains and uneven lighting. Howzat? nagualdesign (talk) 01:30, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks, but could you lighten up the dark shadows on the wall in the first image? --KAVEBEAR (talk) 01:51, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
- Done Darkened shadows (against my better judgement). Any more and too much detail will be lost. You might want to adjust your monitor and compare old and new, or view them on a second monitor. nagualdesign (talk) 02:36, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
- Ooops! Just re-read your request. Hang on, I've still got it open in Photoshop... nagualdesign (talk) 02:37, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
- Done ...Sorry about that! Removed shadows on the wall entirely. Is that what you wanted? nagualdesign (talk) 02:55, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
- Okay thanks.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 06:17, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
- Done ...Sorry about that! Removed shadows on the wall entirely. Is that what you wanted? nagualdesign (talk) 02:55, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks, but could you lighten up the dark shadows on the wall in the first image? --KAVEBEAR (talk) 01:51, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
Wally Backman
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Wally Backman
Article(s): Wally Backman
Request: Upload a new photo from the original source, sharpen. Thanks, Albacore (talk) 16:07, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
Graphist opinion:
Even at full resolution that is a particularly poor photo. So I just grabbed a larger version, cropped it and uploaded it. There's not much (if any) improvement you're going to get out of that image. JBarta (talk) 00:35, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
Indiana Evans and Summer Strallen
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Indiana Evans
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Summer Strallen with a fan
Article(s): Indiana Evans, Summer Strallen
Request: Can you bring the focus in on Indiana as she is over to one side of the image. Can you make a crop of Summer Strallen, the girl in the blue coat without glasses.RaintheOne BAM 23:20, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s): Done: nagualdesign (talk) 23:51, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
- Thankyou for doing it so quickly. :)RaintheOne BAM 23:56, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
Keisuke Otori
Article(s): Keisuke Otori
Request: cut clean oval and repair of crack... Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 12:19, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s):
Done: JBarta (talk) 19:01, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
- Thsnk you!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 15:55, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
Bradley Nowell
Article(s): Bradley Nowell
Request: fix perspective and crop... Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 15:17, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s): Done Centpacrr (talk) 17:30, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
- Very good, thank you!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 15:56, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
L.A. Wrigley Field
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Wrigley Field Los Angeles
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New version
Article(s): Wrigley Field (Los Angeles)
Request: If possible, please crop out the border around the image, rotate it slightly so that none of it gets cut off, and maybe retouch/remove the many blemishes on the image. Please upload as a completely new file. Thanks. Delaywaves talk 01:25, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s): Done Partial restoration. There's not much you can do about a finger over the lens. Cleaned the rest. I tried to upload this to a new file, as requested, but copyright (Attribution-Share Alike 2.0 Generic) wasn't available, so I uploaded it over the old one. Both are still available though. I'll leave you to sort the rest out. ;-) nagualdesign (talk) 02:19, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
- What you essentially did was create a derivative work. This can be easily uploaded to commons by clicking on 1)upload file, then 2)back to the old form, and then 3)derivative work, then follow the instructions. Presto, new derivative file created with no animals harmed in production. JBarta (talk) 05:13, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
- Good one. :-) The new version can now be found here. The metadata looks a right mess though, and the copyright didn't pass over correctly. I guess derivativeFX swapped . for # for some reason. Swapped it back in the license section. nagualdesign (talk) 06:18, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
- Now add the new file next to the original in the gallery above. JBarta (talk) 06:33, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
- For some reason a whole bunch of # characters got substituted into the description of the derivative file. Weird. Being the good Wikipedian I'll just point it out and hope someone else cleans it up... JBarta (talk) 06:42, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
- Like that? Yeah, I thought as much with the hash symbols, but previous edit summaries can't be edited. Someone will sort it! Thanks again. nagualdesign (talk) 06:56, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, like that. And you fixed the description page. That's plenty. See, I was right... someone else (you) cleaned it up. My work here is done. JBarta (talk) 07:29, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
- Wonderful, great work! Delaywaves talk 02:04, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, like that. And you fixed the description page. That's plenty. See, I was right... someone else (you) cleaned it up. My work here is done. JBarta (talk) 07:29, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
- Like that? Yeah, I thought as much with the hash symbols, but previous edit summaries can't be edited. Someone will sort it! Thanks again. nagualdesign (talk) 06:56, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
- Good one. :-) The new version can now be found here. The metadata looks a right mess though, and the copyright didn't pass over correctly. I guess derivativeFX swapped . for # for some reason. Swapped it back in the license section. nagualdesign (talk) 06:18, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
Empire of Brazil
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A station of the Minas and Rio Railway in São Paulo province, Empire of Brazil, c.1885 Done
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Santa Genebra farm, province of São Paulo, 1880. Done
Article(s): Empire of Brazil
Request: The top and right corners of the photo first photo have blue tone. The left corner of the second photo also has a weird blue tone. Could they be fixed without cutting pieces of the photos? Thanks, Lecen (talk) 18:43, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s):
Done Centpacrr (talk) 19:12, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
- Centpacrr, I thank you for your help. However, the second photo's color tone is kind of reddish... could it be more similar to as it looked before? --Lecen (talk) 19:24, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
Done Centpacrr (talk) 21:14, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
- Great! Thank you very much! Kind regards, --Lecen (talk) 21:51, 1 December 2011 (UTC)