Wikipedia:Help desk

Welcome—ask questions about how to use or edit Wikipedia! (Am I in the right place?)

• For other types of questions, use the search box, see the reference desk or Help:Contents. If you have comments about a specific article, use that article's talk page.
• Do not provide your email address or any other contact information. Answers will be provided on this page only.
• If your question is about a Wikipedia article, draft article, or other page on Wikipedia, tell us what it is!
• Check back on this page to see if your question has been answered.
• For real-time help, use our IRC help channel, #wikipedia-en-help.
• New editors may prefer the Teahouse, a help area for beginners (but please don't ask in both places).

Ask a question

September 22

New Article Request

Hi There,

This is Jatinder Singh From Shimla (H.P) India. I am here to ask for a help on writing a article on a Doctor that is living in Shimla. The main Concern of getting an article is that he has been awarded with more than 75 awards out of which 60+ are international. He has also been awarded with the (Honorable) and can use this with his name. His name is Honorable Dr. Jaidev Singh Retola (His Excellency). I want to get all his details updated on wikipedia so that his contribution towards Medical should be known to world. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Itshoneeey (talk • contribs) 07:22, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry but "should be known to [the] world" is explicitly not the purpose of Wikipedia, no matter how worthy the subject. Wikipedia, as an encyclopaedia, is for the purpose of summarising and collecting information which has already been written about by reliable sources. Now, if Dr Retola has received all these awards, then he probably does meet the criteria of notability for living persons, but any article must cite the reliable sources which have written about him. If you want to write an article about him, I suggest you start with WP:Your first article, and then make use of the WP:Article wizard. --ColinFine (talk) 09:49, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi Jatinder, welcome to Wikipedia! I agree with ColinFine but neither of us want to discourage you from creating this article of Dr. Jaidev Singh, provided he is notable, which it appears he is, and provided reliable sources have published information about him, which you must be willing to locate and reference. Are you ready to do that? I did a quick Google search and found at least one reliable source at the International Network for Economics and Conflict here. There could be many more, and it is up to you to find them! Follow the suggestions at the links we have provided, and feel free to go to our talk page to ask any questions. —Prhartcom (talk) 15:14, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Jucu, Romania

Jucu is most famous for corruption, theft and deceit <allegations redacted>.

See <url removed> and more recently which is still under construction <url removed>

Charles — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.126.138.2 (talk) 12:03, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but Wikipedia is not the place to expose alleged corruption or criminality. If there are reliable published sources (such as major newspapers) which talk about corruption in Jucu, then a Wikipedia article may report on what these sources say (assuming the consensus of editors agrees that the matter is notable). But the two sites you have named appear to be self-published, and are therefore not acceptable as sources for information in Wikipedia. I have removed the specific allegations you added above, as such claims may not appear anywhere in Wikipedia unless cited to a reliable source. --ColinFine (talk) 13:20, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Given that Google indexes this page, I've also removed the (attack) URLs. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 01:35, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

finding out about attribution and higher resolution file

I wish to use an image which the contributor states is licensed under Creative Commons with the provision, "You must attribute the work in the manner specified by the author or licensor (but not in any way that suggests that they endorse you or your use of the work)", but I cannot find anywhere the author's the desired attribution. I am trying to find out how the author wants the attribution to read. Also, the resolution of the image on Wikipedia is 180 dpi and I need at least 300 dpi. I wish to ask the author if it's possible to get a file with at least 300 dpi resolution. I cannot find any means to contact the author. I've gone to his wiki page and clicked on the "talk" tab but I don't see how to enter a question there.P.ueda (talk) 15:16, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

You can ask a question on that user's talk page in exactly the same way as you have here. Click on the new section tab at the top, and add a subject and the text of the question in the appropriate boxes.

Why don't you also tell us what picture you're talking about, so we can see if we can offer you any other assistance? Rojomoke (talk) 16:25, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

http://creativecommons.org.au/content/attributingccmaterials.pdf is an essay that CC recommends. I think the main problem is very few use the 1=attribution statement switch on the CC license templates.--Canoe1967 (talk) 22:12, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

stuck with table -

I want to add a 2013 column here but keep breaking the table - anyone able to help? --Cameron Scott (talk) 17:26, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

I don't know what you were trying to do, and what sort of problems you were seeing, but how does this look? - David Biddulph (talk) 17:45, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Spot on - I was trying to add the times ranking that came out today. --Cameron Scott (talk) 18:02, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Username created automatically

Dear editors: I was checking out the User creation log when I saw a username that appeared to be a company name. I was going to report it, but there was a note after the name saying that it was created automatically. Can someone tell me what this means? —Anne Delong (talk) 17:39, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Something to do with unified login. If the account was created on another project, unified login would then create an account here. See, for example: Special:CentralAuth/Anne Delong. If you click in the "method" column, you'll see some of your accounts were automatically created. If the username violates the username policy, you should report it. RudolfRed (talk) 18:16, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! —Anne Delong (talk) 01:33, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Is it a wp:or - improving a low resolution cropped image

A first question: I want to extract an emblem which is painted on the car side (the same emblem in few photos). If the image is cropped to the emblem size, the resolution becomes too poor. is it allowed to improve the image quality? (in terms of wp:or or any other criteria).

possible source images:

1. 
2. 
3. a better image but not a wikipedia image

An example of a target image:

Note that the emblem details are described in few wp:rs. e.g. book: "1948: The First Arab-Israeli War" by Benny Morris, chapter "Operations Yoav and Hiram", page 340, "Qawuqji’s troops fled in the direction of the Jermak...We captured two...armored vehicles taken from us in the Yehiam Convoy and now decorated with the symbol of the ALA, a bent dagger dripping blood, stuck in the heart of a Shield of David"

A second question: Some editors (in response to my question) said that the emblem was added latter to those 3 source images. Is there a relevant Wikipedia forum in which one may ask whether those 3 source images are supposedly fake (in terms of the emblem), or not fake? Ykantor (talk) 17:43, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

@Ykantor: - Please do not ask in a new place when you don't like the responses you get elsewhere, particularly since you asked first at the Graphics Lab, which is where the experts on this question are to be found. Since the consensus is that you should not create a new image, I suggest that you drop the matter and move on to something else. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 04:11, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

@Ykantor: - You cannot have missed their conclusion : Note: It has been suggested by Graphics Lab editors that the dagger and star emblem in this photo may have been added at some point after the photo was taken. This might be a doctored image. Pluto2012 (talk) 05:54, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

@John Broughton:How could I know that a technical problem is subjected to a consensus too? (actually, it is rather strange).Especially so since the consensus here are 2 editors only, and one of them is not sure. moreover, the wp:rs literal description is fairly close to those images, which means that a similar emblem have existed. . Note that I provided the link to the Wikipedia:Graphics_Lab. Thank you for your prompt reply. Ykantor (talk) 17:30, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

@Ykantor: Thinking about this, the most relevant issue isn't NOR or copyright, it's WP:UNDUE. Wikipedia, as an encyclopedia, is intended to be an overview. That you've found a single reliable source (I'm taking your word for that) who mentions this image does not mean that the image is worth adding to a Wikipedia article. If that were the criteria, Wikipedia articles would be the length of small books, as everyone added every single detail that they found in new sources.

If this emblem were important - if there were lots of mentions of it in contemporary accounts, or if it had been discussed repeatedly in subsequent historical analyses, then there would be a good argument for including it in a Wikipedia article. But you've not said that - rather, you've found it described in one source, and seen it on a couple of images - and not by itself, something that one would expect if the emblem itself really were important. So again, may I suggest that you drop this idea and move on to something else. There are plenty of Wikipedia articles that are missing basic, essential information. For example, the page Wikipedia:WikiProject Israel/Assessment shows that there are 287 articles rated "high" importance that are start class. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 19:29, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

• @John Broughton: there several sources, as it can be seen in a partial list at the end. Initially I added it to the image to the article for the same reason have added recently other images- to make it more interactive. The detail is not so important because at those years, the Arab call to kill the Jews in Palestine ( talking, declaration, pogroms and so on) was the norm rather than an unusual phenomena.
• A Google book search provide some sources for this emblem (literally. without an image):

1. book: "1948: The First Arab-Israeli War" by Benny Morris, chapter "Operations Yoav and Hiram", page 340, "Qawuqji’s troops fled in the direction of the Jermak...We captured two...armored vehicles taken from us in the Yehiam Convoy and now decorated with the symbol of the ALA, a bent dagger dripping blood, stuck in the heart of a Shield of David"
2. Martin Gilbert - 1998, "Israel: A History" , Page 236
3. The Israeli-Palestinian conflict in history and civics ... - Page 76; Ruth Firer, ‎Sāmī ʻAbd al-Razzāq ʻAdwān, ‎Falk Pingel - 2004
4. "the Army of Liberation emblem — a dagger thrust into a David's Shield. "
5. More Hebrew books

• inauthor:"Kenneth W. Bilby" posters of a dagger as a poster in Cairo. no relation to Kaukji's army. Ykantor (talk) 20:48, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

September 23

New to Wiki

Hello.

As you can see, this is my first time using Wikipedia as editor. I haven't used HTML or any similar programs for a long time and I heard that Wikipedia is somewhat different to them.

I've heard that Wiki editors uses conventions such as formatting, spelling, and grammar, as well as more general principles that go by acronyms such as NOR, NPOV, or even V. Also I plan to consult, and quote, other sources, in case I have to use them. I would like to learn all these on how to use them.

So if possible, can you help me to get started? That would be appreciated.

Thanks,

MrUnusual — Preceding unsigned comment added by MrUnusual135 (talk • contribs) 01:43, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

• Hi MrUnusual135, I put a welcome template and cheat sheet on your talk page. Ward20 (talk) 02:13, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

• You can usually find the meaning of a Wikipedia acronym by entering it in the search box with "WP:" in front, for example WP:NOR, WP:NPOV, WP:V. There is a long list at Wikipedia:Wikipedia abbreviations. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:23, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Sadako-Angels of the World

I summited info about "Sadako-Angels of the World" Motion Picture. I added reference link sadakomotionpicture.com why was it deleted? Thank you for helping. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.171.3.79 (talk) 05:49, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Your edit was removed here by user MarnetteD who gave an edit summary which said "source does not meet our criteria for verifiability or credibility". The best place to discuss this with them in on their talk page or on the talk page of the article. Dismas|^(talk) 06:18, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia New User Registration Email Confirmation Link

Hello my name is Cloid, with a new Email registration confirming password from Wikipedia to my Email account not working to verify the URL link : hhtp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Confirm Email/ba7d28964afc86e71595e7663199b45, would not click to verify? How can I confirm my Email address and password to log in? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.67.111.221 (talk) 07:02, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Are you sure the url started with hhtp instead of http and had a space in "Confirm Email"? Try again and if it doesn't work then use your computer's copy-paste function to copy the url to your browser. You don't need email confirmation to log in. You only need a working password for that. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:14, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

The URL worked fine for me when I put https:// at the beginning and removed the spaces, but it had expired. You need to request a new code from your preferences — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mdann52 (talk • contribs) 13:30, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Adding categories without support from the body of the article

In working for another project and trying to compile a list of LGBT musicians, I've been trawling through categories such as Category:LGBT musicians from England. I was surprised to find a number of articles with this category, which had no mention in the body of the article that the person in question was LGBT, let alone quoting any reliable source. What is the general policy about this? One example out of many is Micachu --rossb (talk) 09:34, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

I've always thought that this falls under WP:BLP and that unless there is support in the article for the LGBT category, that we should remove the article from it. It is, after all, making a potentially controversial claim about a person which may be wrong. Dismas|^(talk) 10:53, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

I would agree completely with Dismas. If a person's sexual orientation has not been reported in reliable sources, or even if it has been reported in passing but is not a matter that either the person or the reliable sources have given significance to, then it should not be mentioned in the article, and they should not be categorised by it. --ColinFine (talk) 15:12, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Thirded - this is clear per WP:BLP.--ukexpat (talk) 15:26, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

I've removed the two LGBT categories at Micachu. I believe both were added by non-registered (IP) editors, but I didn't do a thorough review of the article history. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 20:03, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Internal links won't work

In trying to set up an internal link I always get a "Page does not exist" alert in the box, but of course it does exist - I just came from there to get the address! If I push it through regardless then the text comes out in a bracket with an attached link arrow, and if there were two names to be highlighted, only one name, the last, gets displayed. So I cancel the link. External links are OK. Why? Orthotox (talk) 10:05, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

That second sentence seems to be a bit of a run-on. Could you maybe post an example? Also, are you trying to use the visual editor or just the source code? Dismas|^(talk) 10:51, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

It sounds like you are trying to use the url to make an internal link. You should use the page name displayed at the top of the page, for example "Johnny Guitar" for Johnny Guitar. See Help:Link#Wikilinks. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:29, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Searching for talk pages with a specific template

Dear editors: I would like to use CatScan to make a list of articles which have this template: {{AfC postpone G13|1}}. These should all be in Wikipedia talk: space. The documentation for CatScan says that it will search for templates, but after choosing the proper space and entering the template, both with and without the parentheses, I got no results.

I then entered the following to see if I could find some of the items in another way:

Depth=5

Categories=AfC submissions by date/2011

Negative Categories=G13 eligible AfC submissions

Namespaces=Wikipedia talk:

..and sure enough, some of the ones I wanted were on the list, for example, "Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/The Voice From the Edge, Volume 1: I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream" (which was declined as a non-notable musical work, by someone who is obviously not a science fiction fan).

I then added Templates=AfC postpone G13|1. If the template search were working, there should be some items on the list, at least the one above, which clearly has this template. I tried it with and without the parentheses.

This is a complex tool, and I am likely overlooking something. Can someone explain how I can make this work for me? I would like to create and save this search so that I can work on improving some of the old stale Afc drafts which have been saved from deletion as having possibilities for improvement. —Anne Delong (talk) 13:33, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

The problem is that the template is called "{{AfC postpone G13}}", not "AfC postpone G13|1". CatScan only knows how to scan for the template name, not the template name plus particular parameters.

But I've just verified with AWB that all the pages currently transcluding this template all have "1" as the parameter, so the pages you are looking for are these. Five are in the Wikipedia namespace and the other 73 are in Wikipedia talk.

The 73 are also listed in Category:AfC postponed G13. The template uses the "1" parameter as the category sort key, and all are listed under the "1" subheading. -- John of Reading (talk) 14:36, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi Anne. Luckily, John is pretty smart, but FYI for next time, editors often post questions like yours at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical). Cheers. —Prhartcom (talk) 14:59, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. I didn't realize that "What links here" had anything to do with templates, since in my mind they are not links. Will it pick up both transcluded and non-transcluded templates? Is there no end to the complexity of Wikipedia? —Anne Delong (talk) 18:13, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Question one: By default, Special:WhatLinksHere lists both transclusions and ordinary links, but once you've got a list of results it shows a "filter" box near the top. Using that, you can hide the transclusions or the ordinary links. Question two: Probably not. -- John of Reading (talk) 18:43, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Search index updating

Usually, the search index seems to update about 02.00-03.00 UTC - this is based on a typical latest time/date in a common search
Today, however, it updated sometime between 10.00 and 14.00 UTC - this confuses us WP:WikiGnomes trying to clear spelling corrections
Is there some log that shows when the index was last updated? If so, where is it? If not, why not? and can we please have such a log? - Arjayay (talk) 16:08, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

You seem to already know when it was updated. Can you clarify your question? RudolfRed (talk) 00:16, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Q - Is there a simple log, which can easily be consulted, that gives the actual date and time of the last search index update? Arjayay (talk) 07:49, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Uploading an image of an obituary

Dear friends,

I'm working on an article regarding Major Adam Davie (Commander of the Kandyan Garrison of 1803 expedition) who died in 1812 as a prisoner of the Kingdom of Kandy. I'm considering to add an image of his obituary to the article. It was published in the "Scots Magazine and Edinburgh Literary Miscellany" in 1815. I can even type it as a quote but I think an image would increase articles's value. Is there a consensus or a official policy regarding adding obituary images to an article. Thanks. Nishadhi (talk) 17:57, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Images are considered undesirable as a replacement for citations, as there is greater potential for manipulation and falsification. Just cite the actual text of the actual obituary; a picture of a reference does not add value to the article.--Orange Mike | Talk 20:26, 23 September 2013 (UTC). --Orange Mike | Talk 20:26, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Injury

I was injured in chevron on 23th Lonsdale. North Vancouver in BC.CANADA in last June, 2013. The chevron adjuster believes, my injury is subjective and they aren't responsible. It's interesting, they hurt people' health and then say it is subjective. I'm following up my case if you ( chevron doesn't want to to take responsibility, I'll go to newspaper and also news on TV. Please let me know. Thank you

Fatima — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.7.58.246 (talk) 18:40, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 4 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.Template:Z25 -- John of Reading (talk) 18:46, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Whitespace

Comet#Notable_comets has whitespace. I don't have time to fix it right now but being a good article someone may wish to.--Canoe1967 (talk) 22:57, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

I see nothing wrong with it. Though there have been quite a few edits today, so maybe one of them cleared it up. Dismas|^(talk) 00:10, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

@Canoe1967: I also don't see any whitespace problem; I also don't see any edits to the article that were after you posting here, or edits just before that were to this section, and looking at a version of a day earlier showed no problem. Are you still seeing too much whitespace? If so, are you using Chrome? (There are reports of whitespace issues with that, though I'm personally not seeing those.) Or a screen narrower than those typically found on a PC or Mac? -- John Broughton (♫♫) 19:03, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

e/c I assume you mean the large whitespace in "Notable comets" which I have removed by changing the format to a gallery
If, however, you are referring to white-space at the bottom, this is probably because you are using Chrome - please see "How do you remove the extra space in the bottom of an article" below, Arjayay (talk) 19:14, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

I have a PC with Win7 using IE10. It is fixed it now by Arjayay converting the image format to a gallery.--Canoe1967 (talk) 19:13, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

September 24

VE's turn off

Anyone have a line on exactly what discussion/process etc. led to the Visual Editor being turned off and/or opt-in being made the default (not that I mind)? I've checked WP:VE, WT:VE, WP:VPT, WP:VPP, WP:VisualEditor/RFC and WP:VisualEditor/Default State RFC and haven't found it, but I know that the recent discussions I saw were that the foundation was absolutely not going to abide by the results of the RFC.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:56, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

@Fuhghettaboutit: WP:AN has it :) The foundation, fyi, didn't abide by the results until the community actually did implement it's fix. ~Charmlet ^-talk- 01:02, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Charmlet! Going to go read now.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:06, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

It's also at WP:VPT, but that was posted just shortly before your question here. RudolfRed (talk) 02:49, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

• WP admins planned to hide VE in JavaScript menu: The admins had power to hide VE in the menu because VE had been forced on JavaScript browsers (and some users were shocked when "[[this]]" failed to work any longer in July edits). By 22 September 2013, there was a clever plan to hide VE yet allow opt-in for registered users who had at least 1 edit, but the Foundation stated concerns about JavaScript server-speed and removed VE from the server-side menu instead (as opt-in). I wish they had worried about user edit speed whenever a very large VE edit failed to save any changes. -Wikid77 (talk) 06:34, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Deeply biased moderator.

A collection of articles pertaining to anti-feminism/feminism (antifeminism, misandry, men's rights, feminism, etc) appears to have a moderator that is deeply biased against these things and is also very influential. While insisting that things such as anti-feminism is portrayed in the most negative light possible, they further ensure that no actual criticism of Feminism is allowed on the page. At one point they went so far as to cite a single scholarly work as the definition of the word "Misandry" despite that work not containing the definition as read and in fact there being numerous definitions contrary... the only justification for choosing that definition was that it was the most negative one. How do you deal with such an influential and biased moderator? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr.Cappadocia (talk • contribs) 01:42, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

You can try the guidance at WP:DR to resolve your dispute. I would suggest that you stay away from these topics, as you seem to be engaging in edit wars and personal attacks, which are not the way to solve the problem. Consider finding other topics here at Wikipedia to contribute contstructively to. RudolfRed (talk) 02:32, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

It also might help to use the normal Wikipedia terminology. There is no such thing as a "moderator" here at Wikipedia. Those involved in discussing or making changes to articles (or other pages) are called editors. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 18:56, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Wrong use of the America term

There are NOT such thing as "Americas" when talking about continents, because it is a single continent the denominations "North American" and "South American" portals are strictly incorrect and both portals MUST be mixed into single one; America has got 35 countries by the way — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.130.104.60 (talk) 05:34, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

North and South America are geographically separate continents, riding on separate plates. I don't know why you would think otherwise. .—Kww(talk) 06:14, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

? are we talking the same language? did you finish high school? you must be US-American right? --We are discussing in Geopolitically/administrative terms; tectonic plaques are not a criteria to make such a classification, Continents are : Asia; Europe; Africa; Oceania; America [just one] and according to some geographers also Antarctic(-a) -How dare you to say such a thing that there are 2 separate continents? did not they teach you that at your kosher high school— Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.130.104.60 (talk • contribs)

If you really want to discuss this further, then the talk pages of North America and South America are the places to do it. I don't expect that you will find any support, though: a continent is a geological feature, defined by a grouping of tectonic plates. North America and South America are geologically distinct continents.—Kww(talk) 07:20, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

It also seems to have been discussed many times at Talk:Americas. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:26, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

I agree with Kww. The consensus, as expressed in the article continent, is that North America and South America are distinct continents. However I believe that plate tectonics is irrelevant, as the definitions of the continents were generally agreed before continental drift was understood. Maproom (talk) 07:35, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

There ARE such a thing as "Americas" when talking about continents, it´s a matter of choice/habit. Listen to CGPGrey: [1]. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:22, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

I hope we're all agreed that the best place for this discussion (if anyone wants to continue it) is at one of the three article talk pages mentioned above, and not on this page. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 18:53, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

I actually think this is worth discussing no where on Wikipedia. Never gonna happen, been discussed to death. See the talk page John pointed you to, its archives and other discussions such as at Talk:South America/Archive 1#North and South America are two continents and Talk:North America/Archive 2#North and South America are two continents. Note, 190.130.104.60, that any further apparently antisemitic remarks will result in an immediate block.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:27, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Page Doesn't Update

Page about author Yael Neeman I added several links to this page, but my changes only appear when I'm logged in, as soon as I log out - they don't appear. I'd appreciate any help on the subject. Thank You, Carolynsknight (talk) 07:32, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

We don't control Hebrew Wikipedia. It looks to me like a purging problem that will fix itself in an few hours. I can't purge it manually because my browser goes wacko with the right-to-left URL.—Kww(talk) 07:37, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

I think I just did a null edit on the page. Maybe that will help? I can't read Hebrew, so I don't know for sure. Dismas|^(talk) 07:42, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Kww, I checked but it still doesn't show up. (it's the last four links in the external links section). If I press on Edit, then I see them, but after the save they don't show up. I'll wait a few hours as you suggested to see if it will fix itself. Thanks very much for your help! Carolynsknight (talk) 07:53, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Also, the Help desk for the Hebrew Wikipedia is here. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 17:10, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Satpal Maharaj - Content

Satpal Maharaj (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Dear ,

The content details mentioned in the mail is not correct & written with malafied intension.

Name mentioned "Bal Bhagwan Ji" is also correct. In Childhood we call kid by some name, it does not mean that the same name would be used throughout live.

Requested you to remove the word "BAL BHAGWAN JI"

Also the descriptopm of program organized by manav utthan sewa samit is wrong and it is meliciously explaind.

Currently Satpal Maharaj has no relation with Prem Rawat & Other brothers, why there name is assciate by them is wrong

Also the work done by Satpal Maharaj is not explained,

There is no mentioning of award "Men of the year" and "Man of the millenium" by international biographical society, Cambridge in the year 1999 & 2000 .

Many work done by him for employment in uttrakhand ald also for sanction of railway line in uttrakhand the Himalaan State not mentioned in the details.

The sole intersion to write this article is malafied.

Please do the needful in providing correct information to the people.

Regards,

Gyan Vashishtha

The place to discuss this is on the talk page Talk:Satpal Maharaj. But please remember that it is a fundamental principle of Wikipedia to assume good faith. Describing other people's edits as "malafied intension" is assuming bad faith, and will not win you much support in any consensus. --ColinFine (talk) 08:40, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Copyright status of works by students

Are there any guidelines available anywhere regarding the copyright status of works done by students? AIUI the copyright of theses and dissertations created as part of qualification for masters or doctoral degrees usually belongs to the student but may be ceded to the university. What is the status of "minor works" such as term papers, essays and assignments by undergraduates and even high school students? Is there international consistency like there is for "commercial" works such as books, films, photos, music etc, or does it vary a lot by country or even subnational jurisdiction? Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 13:45, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

In virtually all copyright regimes, the student would initially hold copyright -- there is rarely a difference between an essay, say, and a book -- but feasibly the institution could impose whatever rules it wanted regarding the transfer of copyright upon submission. I have to say I doubt that many do. - Jarry1250 ^{[Vacation needed]} 15:30, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

New article

Hi, can anyone remove my text on NEURONUS IBRO & IRUN Neuroscience Forum (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:WiolaW/sandbox ) from my sandbox to the sites of Wikipedia? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by WiolaW (talk • contribs) 15:42, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

@WiolaW: - Your sandbox page is not ready to be changed into an article. If the page were moved, it probably would be immediately deleted (more than 1000 articles per day are deleted here at Wikipedia). The article doesn't have any information to indicate that the subject is notable. It doesn't have any footnotes. I strongly suggest you read WP:Your first article. Also, please note that Wikipedia, as an encyclopedia, aims to provide an overview of subjects, not detailed information. (There is far, far too much detailed information, such as the names of keynote speakers and those who won awards. (A Wikipedia article should have links to sources that can provide details for the interested reader.) -- John Broughton (♫♫) 17:07, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

How do you remove the extra space in the bottom of an article?

Hi. I am one of the major editors of The Voice of the Philippines and The Voice of the Philippines (season 1). These articles have these extra spaces found in the bottom of the article. How do I remove them? I haven't done anything for these extra spaces to appear in the said articles. --AR E N Z O Y 1 6A•t a l k• 15:52, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

I don't see any space, using Firefox. Are you using Chrome, by any chance? There's a discussion about this at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Scrolling past the bottom of the page... The developers have fixed a problem, but I can't tell from that thread whether the fix has been deployed yet. Be patient, and you may find that the space disappears in a few days. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:09, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I am using Chrome. I haven't found any issues while using Firefox too. Thanks anyway for the clarification. :) --AR E N Z O Y 1 6A•t a l k• 16:21, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

FYI there is no problem on IE 10 either. Arjayay (talk) 18:43, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

CC licenses and POD publishers

Just found an interesting abuse of the Creative Commons license...is it legal for a print-on-demand publisher to "curate" (i.e. take a Wikipedia article or two or several) arrange them in a book format and offer it for sale? Because Hephaestus Books did with Slab hut and other articles into a book called Wooden Buildings and Structures, Including: Slab Hut, Bush Carpentry, Buswartehobel ISBN 9781242493300[2]

Apparently, a 36-pages of Wikipedia articles gets offered at $20.69.--ColonelHenry (talk) 17:13, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

It's perfectly legal; see Wikipedia:Buying Wikipedia articles in print or another form. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:25, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Hey, if people want to pay for text that they can read for free, it's their choice. The company is providing some advantages: The articles are all collected and arranged in a sensible order; you can use your highlighter or make notes next to the interesting bits; you can read them in a hammock far, far from your Wifi; and if you wrote or contributed to some of the articles you can keep an archive of the way they were at the time. —Anne Delong (talk) 17:36, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Searches prefixed with "wiki:" redirect to c2.com

When I enter anything into the search box at the top of wikipedia of the form "wiki:test" and press enter, I get sent to "http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?test". Prefixes other than wiki don't trigger it, but the second half can be anything. Any idea what is going on? I do not know if this only affects this computer, but it seems like a strange thing for malware to do. Katie R (talk) 18:14, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

I see that it is going to "the original wiki", so I take it that this is just interwiki support showing up? I originally tried it as a shortcut to "wikipedia:", hoping that the system would figure it out. Katie R (talk) 18:22, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Yes, it's an interwiki prefix listed at meta:Interwiki map. meta:Talk:Interwiki map#Wiki shows many people have been confused by it. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:02, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Red Mountain High School in Mesa AZ mascot

Red Mountain High School in Mesa, AZ is listed on Wikipedia. However, the mascot listed is incorrect. The mascot is actually a mountain lion. Thank you for making this correction. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.36.0.199 (talk) 20:22, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Where did you see it listed incorrectly? The article on the school had not been edited since August and already listed "Mountain lions" as the mascot. I have changed this to singular (mountain lion) but I don't think that is what you meant when you said the mascot listed is incorrect, and I have searched Wikipedia for other articles that might list it and its mascot without result.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 22:40, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Are you by any chance referring to a photo or text shown to the right of a Google search? Google's Knowledge Graph uses a wide variety of sources. There may be a text paragraph ending with "Wikipedia" to indicate that particular text was copied from Wikipedia. An image and other text before or after the Wikipedia excerpt may be from sources completely unrelated to Wikipedia. We have no control over how Google presents our information. You can however click the "Feedback" link on Google's search page and mark the mascot as wrong. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:02, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Elgin Illinois wiki page

A few more movies were filmed here..and a few more famous people are from Elgin..the night mare on elm street movie filmed a few years ago filmed its funeral scene at bluff city cemetery...the movie munger road was filmed in nearby st Charles Illinois...the film road to perdition was filmed in near by west Dundee for most of the older town scenes..also wwe superstar and Jennifer Hudson's husband David otunga is from Elgin and attended Larkin high school ..he did a graduating speech for the 2008 class...please update when you can..thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.12.230.104 (talk) 20:23, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

If you have reliable sources for these assertions, then you can do it yourself. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:33, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Edit disappeared. Foulplay?

Earlier today I was editing the article German Green Party (Removing two images that didn't seem appropriate - self promotion). I left a note on the articles talk page to explain my reasons. Now the edit has disappeared. Not reverted (I half expected that), but it does not even appear on the revision history. The note I left on the talk page similarly disappeared, although there the revision history still shows my edit as the most recent edit (at 9.44), although the section that I have added does not appear on the talk page. So, what is going on? Has somebody hacked the database? My edits were done about 9.40am this morning, from IP address 86.171.30.141. 86.171.30.141 (talk) 21:14, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Heck, now everything seems to be in order again. Puzzled. I assume a browser cache problem on my side, although I thought I had checked that. Sorry for the hassle. 86.171.30.141 (talk) 21:17, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

(edit conflict) :Note that German Green Party is a redirect, your edits are actually in the history of Alliance '90/The Greens. Your edits do appear in the history for me, and it appears they have not been reverted. If you looked in the history of the correct page and still didn't see them, perhaps your running into a caching issue? Maybe Wikipedia:Bypass your cache would help. Monty₈₄₅ 21:19, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Jebulon

Hello, I'm Jebulon.

I'm French, sorry for bad english. My main page is on "Commons", Here.

My goal is to upload good quality images (I'm the proud owner of FP stars in THIS wikipedia !!!), and improve articles with better illustrations.

I'm Jebulon everywhere in all wikimedia projects around the world, EXCEPT here, in the english wikipedia.

I've a loggin problem, I don't know why, but I find this a bit ridiculous. Could somebody help and solve this issue for me ?

Thanks in advance.--82.123.108.224 (talk) 23:02, 24 September 2013 (UTC) (Jebulon)

https://toolserver.org/~quentinv57/sulinfo/Jebulon shows the English account User:Jebulon was created in 2007, years before your accounts at other wikis. The account has no edits so you can request the name at Wikipedia:Changing username/Usurpations. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:08, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

I see I said exactly the same when you asked at Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2011 December 29#Yes I know I'm not logged in, that's THE problem ! I had forgotten that but at least I'm consistent! PrimeHunter (talk) 23:12, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Added company history

Hello, I added company history to Un-Cruise Adventures. The company was already listed on wikipedia but without any information. I used information from my press kit which is also online on our website. We own the copyright. Isn't it ok to use it on wikipedia to give brief company background? thanks.SeattleSailor (talk) 23:48, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Probably not. Wikipedia articles need to be written in a non-promotional manner, and it is likely your press kit isn't neutral in that regard. 23:55, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

September 25

Watchlist question

Is there an easy way to delete articles from my Watchlist? I've got way too many. Thanks. Malke 2010 (talk) 00:13, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

If you just want to quickly clear large quantities from your watchlist Special:EditWatchlist/raw is the way to do it. Short of manually choosing what you want to remove and keep, there is not a good way of cleaning it out selectively, at least as far as I know. If you figure out a good way to do that, I think there would be a number of interested editors. Monty₈₄₅ 00:19, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Brilliant, thank you. Malke 2010 (talk) 01:06, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Combining edit history under the same user name

If I would like all of my edits to appear under the same user name, is there a way to "claim" past anonymous edits under my IP address? Sonofawoman (talk) 00:57, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

IP edits cannot be listed in your account contributions. See Wikipedia:Changing attribution for an edit. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:53, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! Sonofawoman (talk) 02:24, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Blatant wrong/misleading information, important

This whole article should be deleted: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_HDI Check the source of that article, no index is mentioned with a scale of 0 to 1. Its purposefully misleading to make it look like the individual American states are comparable with the National HDI index, so Mississippi would have a higher HDI than the UK (which is not the case). The article even mentions "he measurement scale used by the AHDI is different from that used in the UN's Human Development Index, and these values can not be compared to those". There is no reason at all with this list is there.

There is already an article about the HDI of the different American states http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_American_Human_Development_Index

Both rankings use 'Measure of America' as source. But the former ranking is wrong and has never existed. It was created by someone on Wikipedia to mislead people into thinking that the index is comparable to the national ones.

greetings — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.117.249.20 (talk) 02:50, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Pull edit history of a specific section of an article

Is there a way to see a list of the editors and their contributions to given part of an article, sort of like git blame in Git or as with other revision control software? — MusikAnimal ^talk 03:36, 25 September 2013 (UTC)