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November 2014

Information icon Please do not add original research or novel syntheses of published material to articles as you apparently did to Balsam of Peru. Please cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. Thank you. Epeefleche (talk) 23:54, 21 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Epeefleche you are wrong. My contribution is neither original research nor synthesis of published material. As a matter of fact, it has been common knowledge to anybody versed in the art for more than a century. If you have reasons to question the contents due to ignorance of the matter then, a prudent thing to do is to request citations to the contributor and, also, there is such thing as adding "citation needed" next to a questionable claim. However, you quickly deleted the contribution in it's entirety, something that you seem to do quite often and, which is akin to vandalism. If you cannot resist your urge to delete other editor's contributions, I suggest you notify the contributor of your concern and, after a reasonable time elapsed (such as, for example, a couple of weeks or a month) with no response from the contributor or, from other constructive editors who would add your requested sources, go ahead and indulge.98.217.155.45 (talk) 23:30, 17 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Your three references only show the use for microscope slides. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 20:59, 23 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Adding to what X said here and responding to you on my talk page, and in his edit summary at the article ... it is irrelevant what you maintain is "common knowledge" to "anybody versed in the art". WP is not the province of those who have such knowledge. Additions stem not from such knowledge, but rather from appropriate references that do not involve synthesis and that are to RS sources. A prudent thing to do is to add such RS sources if they exist, and if not to understand that the text is subject to deletion ... without any requirement of a tag beforehand, though that could be done as an alternative. You seem not to understand that material that is not properly cited to an RS does not have a "right" to remain in an article for any period of time. Best. Epeefleche (talk) 00:51, 24 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
By now, we are only talking about the deletion of: "such as for bonding lenses and other optical elements made out of glass to each other". Even if the cited references do not list all the uses of balsam of Peru in optics besides the most common use in microscopy glass, it is obvious, at least with some common sense, or logic reasoning, that balsam of Peru could also be used to glue other optical elements that match the properties described in the remainder of the text. I added that because I used it myself and, because it was a logical clarification of what the citations implied. I didn't have to have known this, I could have deduced it. However, it may not occur to some readers, such as yourself, that balsam of Peru can also be used for bonding lenses and other optical elements made out of glass to each other. I hope that with some clarifications, those statements became obvious to you too. It is worth including them for those readers that may not imagine those other obvious uses. Wikipedia allows deductive reasoning within an article, without labeling it as either original research or synthesis of published material. While there are cases where your kind of insistence is useful and necessary, here it is simply disruptive. [I should point out that there is no need to verify statements that are patently obvious]. 98.217.155.45 (talk) 16:58, 24 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

December 2014

Warning icon Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by adding your personal analysis or synthesis into articles, as you did at Balsam of Peru, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not add and re-add against consensus material that is not cited to RSs via inline cites that directly supports your proposition. Tx. Epeefleche (talk) 22:49, 25 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Epeefleche, you need to stop your harrasment and your edit warring. Reliable sources were provided, so there is no original research, and what they implied was added using basic logic and common sense and, not by combining material from multiple sources to reach or imply a conclusion, so there is no synthesis of published material. As it was indicated to you before, Wikipedia allows deductive reasoning within an article, without labeling it as either original research or synthesis of published material. The main point here is that there is no need to verify statements that are patently obvious. With your pedantry, you are being disruptive and, with your threats, harassing. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's harrasment and edit warring policy by repeatedly overriding contributions, as you did at Balsam of Peru, you may be blocked from editing. 98.217.155.45 (talk) 03:52, 26 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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