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Personnel

Would it be better if the personnel was narrowed down further, with Glenn on 'acoustic 12-string rhythm guitar', Don F on 'electric 12 and 6 string lead guitar', and Joe on 'electric lead guitar'? 106.68.153.211 (talk) 16:04, 11 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 23 July 2017

In the "Recordings" section, there is the phrase:

"the record company was reluctant to release it as a single because of the length of song which is over six minutes long, far exceeding the standard length of songs played by radio stations"

This feels clumsy. I'd like to suggest that it is amended to:

"the record company was reluctant to release it as a single because, at over six minutes, its duration far exceeds that of the songs generally played by radio stations" Stephenallsopp (talk) 11:14, 23 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 17:06, 23 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 10 August 2017

The chord progression for the chorus is listed as "G–D–Em–Bm–G–D–Em–F♯". I believe the 3rd chord in that progression is actually an F#. http://www.chordie.com/chord.pere/www.xguitar.com/guitar-tabs/eagles/hotel_california/hotel_california.txt — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dan asc (talkcontribs) 9:58, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Done Good catch. The source already cited in the relevant passage confirms your contention (as does a quick listen). RivertorchFIREWATER 13:45, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-Protected edit request on 05 September 2017: Error in chorus chord progression

The recent edit to the chorus chord progression resulting in the updated progression of G-D-F#-Bm-G-D-Em-F# introduced an error to the Roman numeral representation of the chorus chord progression. The F# should be represented by "III" (the Roman numeral 3) rather than "ii" (lower case Roman numeral 2, which represented Em in the earlier version of the chord progression). Jkcncwiki (talk) 14:07, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Reviewer: Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:17, 6 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]


Hi - I'll make copyedits as I go (please revert if I inadvertently change the meaning) and jot queries below Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:17, 6 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Casliber: So what's up with the review?
Got sidetracked. Will get onto it soon. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:04, 16 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
..and gave Don Henley and Glenn Frey each the resulting demo cassette. - "a" cassette each surely? actually "a resulting cassette" sounds odd too. "a copy of the recording"?
I fixed that. I think the song can be promoted now, if there aren't any other issues you feel need to be addressed.
who had replaced Bernie Leadon who left in 1975 - sounds odd with the two "who"s
...and the record company was reluctant to release it as a single because, at over six minutes, its duration far exceeds that of the songs generally played by radio stations - "exceeds" should be in past tense as everything else is in the sentence. Also "as a single" redundant as implied by the first part of the sentence.
Can "B Dorian" be linked anywhere?
Although the band members and Phillips met to discuss the project, tension between the two parties ended the pre-development deal for the film - left hanging...can this be elaborated upon?
@Casliber: I fixed all the problems you discussed and found no Wikipedia article for "B Dorian".
Earwigs looks ok, first one is a mirror, and others are inflated scores due to quotes. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:52, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Citations to reliable sources, where required: - sources look ok, formatting the top 100 guitar solos one would be good (proper attribution etc).
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Pass or Fail: - Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:55, 21 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Seems the core of this song was taken from Jethro Tull (band)

I don't have the guts to take on the fans and put it in the composition section. The Eagles even toured with Tull and listening to the Tull song 'We Used To Know' is where they got the foundations of Hotel California it seems. [1][2]

Reaper7 (talk) 21:55, 10 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

The music was written entirely by Don Felder who was not yet in the band when the Eagles and Jethro Tull toured together. So that part doesn't work. Bob Caldwell CSL (talk) 14:02, 31 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Gold Record

"Three months after its first release, the single was certified Gold by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA), representing one million copies shipped."

A Gold Record is 500,000 sales.

https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/about-awards/

It was one million at the time. The certified units has changed over the years. For example, gold for digital single was only 100,000 before 2006. Hzh (talk) 01:47, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]