Wikipedia talk:Redirect

Wikipedia Help Project‑class High‑importance

	This page is within the scope of the Wikipedia Help Project, a collaborative effort to improve Wikipedia's help documentation for readers and contributors. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks. To browse help related resources see the Help Menu or Help Directory. Or ask for help on your talk page and a volunteer will visit you there.Wikipedia HelpWikipedia:Help ProjectTemplate:Wikipedia Help ProjectHelp
Project	This page does not require a rating on the project's quality scale.
High	This page has been rated as High-importance on the project's importance scale.

Redirect Project‑class

	This page is within the scope of WikiProject Redirect, a collaborative effort to improve the standard of redirects and their categorization on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks. Note: This banner should be placed on the talk pages of project, template and category pages that exist and operate to maintain redirects. This banner is not designed to be placed on the talk pages of most redirects and almost never on the talk pages of mainspace redirects. For more information see the template documentation.RedirectWikipedia:WikiProject RedirectTemplate:WikiProject Redirectredirect
Project	This page does not require a rating on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.

Shortcuts

{{Archive box |bot=MiszaBot II |age=2 |units=months |index=/Archive index |search=yes|

January 2003 – December 2005
January – December 2006
January – December 2007
January – December 2008
January – December 2009
January – December 2010
[[Wikipedia talk:Redirect/Archive 2011|January – December

Semi-protected edit request on 2 September 2020

This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request.

Please remove

Redirects from list articles to categories

and add

Redirects from list titles to categories

Redirects are redirects, not articles; the passage is talking about page titles called "List of" whatever. 64.203.187.82 (talk) 20:22, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done – Uanfala (talk) 21:06, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Another one

Also, in the "Purposes of redirects", please change DSM-IV to DSM-V. Some time ago, IV became a section redirect, and V (which goes to the same article) isn't a section redirect. It would be good if the purposes list didn't include section redirects, except when it's talking about them, of course. 64.203.187.82 (talk) 20:26, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

But that would defeat the purpose of the example: it's meant to illustrate redirects from abbreviations to an article whose title is an expansion of this abbreviation, and DSM-V redirects to DSM-5. How about a different example? EU? WHO? – Uanfala (talk) 21:06, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Uanfala: WHO isn't that great because it could be confused with the word "who", which is a disambiguation page. EU is a little short in my opinion. I'd think NBA would be pretty good, or ADHD if you want more letters. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ganbaruby (talk • contribs) 00:37, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, yes. I think ADHD is perfect. I'm going to change the example, but if anybody prefers anything else, then go for it. – Uanfala (talk) 09:38, 3 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

RFD

I found a redirect that was recently changed to a WP:Set Index Article and want to discuss this. I tried to open a RFD, but Twinkle aborted because the title is currently not a redirect. Below are the details. What should I do here?

Zhangsun redirected to Empress Zhangsun 10+ years. Now it is a SIA with three entries. Pageviews shows Empress Zhangsun gets almost 4x the views so I think it should be the PT. If this were not a SIA, I would be bold and move this to Zhangsun (disambiguation) and restore the redirect. Not sure what to do in this case. Zhangsun (surname) also redirects to the SIA. Should the SIA just go there? MB 04:25, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You could move it to Zhangsun (surname), though that would need an WP:RM (or a WP:RM/TR). RFD has a tendency to kick stuff like this over to RM anyway. 59.149.124.29 (talk) 07:25, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, put an WP:RM at Talk:Zhangsun to move the current Zhangsun to Zhangsun (surname) with Zhangsun then being a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT to Empress Zhangsun. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 13:40, 24 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Just initiated a RM. MB 04:27, 27 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect

Food for thought. Richrichole01 (talk) 02:35, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Food for thought has been a redirect to Food for Thought since 2009. If you are suggesting it be changed, you might be looking for WP:Redirects for discussion down the hall. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 02:49, 28 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Should redirects from misspellings be disallowed?

Almost everybody has spell check these days. Deleting these redirects would also make fixing misspelled links easier. To deal with the duplicate article problem, the deleted pages could be salted. JsfasdF252 (talk) 05:51, 13 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Does spell check work in the search bar? My desktop browser, for example, checks the spelling only in text fields longer than a single line, which excludes any search boxes. Even if we assume that in the future spellchecking will somehow be everywhere always turned on for everyone, then we'll have to reckon with the fact that this spellchecking, though capable enough of picking up mispeling or Jermany, it will probably not be able to handle Zamiaki or Qoahito. – Uanfala (talk) 06:18, 13 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A properly labelled {{R from misspelling}} can make fixing links easier. In theory a bot could do it, though bad links to other topics such as Jerominy do appear and human oversight is advised. Certes (talk) 15:22, 13 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes and no. {{R from misspelling}} should only be used for redirects from common, plausible misspellings. For example we have the redirect ordeurves so that readers who don't know exactly how to spell the name of the diminutive appetizers and try to guess based on how it sounds can still find information on hors d'oeuvres. That's one that a spell checker isn't likely to correct; mine thinks I want to type orderliness, which isn't even kind of correct. We have dozens of redirects from different plausible misspellings of that title, since it's difficult (it's not even English, maybe that makes it a bad example). But we don't redirect from just any possible mistake, they need to be an error that someone is likely to make to be useful, otherwise they're just clutter. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 15:51, 13 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Then the question becomes "Should redirects from rare and unlikely misspellings be disallowed?", to which I'd answer "Yes". Certes (talk) 16:11, 13 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good, but without a way to measure likeliness, it is hard to say. Are there statistics on search queries that failed? Statistics on use of spelling redirects? Gah4 (talk) 03:30, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It's a judgement. At WP:RFD, redirects from spelling errors that are not particularly common are regularly deleted, but common spelling errors are often kept. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:15, 14 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Discontinuation of comments subpages

An editor has found some work for those WikiGnomes who might be interested. Please see WT:DCS#Rcats for more info. P.I. Ellsworth ed. ^put'r there 16:58, 6 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]