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A minor contradiction

"Dinesh Joseph D'Souza (/dɪˈnɛʃ dəˈsuːzə/; born April 25, 1961) is an Indian-American far-right political provocateur" "D'Souza is generally identified as a neoconservative."

If D'Souza is generally identified as neoconservative, then surely he should not be introduced as a far-right political provocateur. One of these needs to be changed/removed. Unless it is the opinion of Wikipedia that neoconservatism is a far-right ideology, in which case the Radical right (United States) page should probably be updated to reflect that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.248.115.212 (talk) 02:58, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

The issue is not only contradictory, but dogmatic. Conservatism/neoconservativism is not far-right politics; yet "consensus has it" that it is fine to textually show "far-right", yet direct the wikilink to Radical right (United States). If Wikipedia standardized the practice of applying commonly used terms used by the media to describe prominent individuals, vast issues would arise. One example, consensus would have it that the president should be described as fascist, authoritarian, racist, liar, etc., because hundreds of thousands of articles have been written to describe the president as such. Yet, the article is not and should not be introduced that way.

The current citations used to substantiate the alleged "far-right"-ness of D'Souza are feeble and worthless to justify labeling D'Souza as "far-right". The Guardian article only metions "far-right" in the headline, not the body.; 2nd citation by Newsweek does not mention "far-right" at all; 3rd citation by NYT does not mention "far-right" at all.; 4th article by NBC mentions "far-right" once – linking to this article which does not mention "far-right" at all; and the 5th article, once again, does not mention "far-right" at all. It appears the previous consensuses were either done dogmatically, ignorantly, or both. Two citations mention "far-right" in 1. the title, and 2. to an article that does not mention "far-right" at all. The Wikipedia article alone describes D'Souza as "far-right" once - the lead. Previous consensuses must have been WP:STONEWALLING to bias perception. Yet, four out of five citations (not NBC article) used describe D'Souza as "right-wing". If the consensus was properly done, D'Souza should be called "right-wing". Numerous RSs describe D'Souza as ndeoconservative, as you mentioned, which should be implemented. All previous Talks about this very issue had various users concerned about the labeling of and conjoining of conservatism/neoconservatism with far-right - 1, 2, 3. The likely compromise is to include a section of the media perception of D'Souza in the article, not the lead. Aviartm (talk) 20:23, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Elsewhere, The Guardian does call him 'far right'. Pincrete (talk) 08:46, 22 October 2020 (UTC)

Far-right is a subset of neocon. Guy (help! - typo?) 08:51, 22 October 2020 (UTC)