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Albert Edwin Dickey

Hi, I just moved the Hall of Fame to the first graph, created sections and other edits. Noticed that story about Dickey's mentor, Ed Dickey, being in the dugout with him, Cobb biting his finger off, etc. Did this actually occur? I'm going to research it a bit and take it out if it's vandalism. Randy Kryn (talk) 10:48, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No data on Google except as a copy of this page, likely vandalism, removed mention. Randy Kryn (talk) 10:58, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi I'm writing the french article about Bill Dickey. Could you please, give more informations about him ? Max Duval (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:22, 18 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

RfC: 14 vs 7

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There is a dispute with a user because of his winning career as a coach. His HoF plaque and MLB.com's record shows that he's a seven-time winner, and (It's different sports but if he's right,) my view is that Mikel Arteta is already a Premier League winning manager if his coaching record should be included, and I think this is wrong. 14 vs 7, which one is correct? 221.143.186.6 (talk) 08:25, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The question at hand is: should Bill Dickey's world series wins include the 7 world series won while he was coach of the team (for a total of 14), or only the 7 world series that he won as a player?

(Edited to clarify the RFC as I found it initially confusing) Andromadist (talk)

14, as this seems to be what is done for notable coaches such as Frankie Crosetti and Jim Turner. Andromadist (talk) 22:45, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have another question. What is "notable" means? I mean, how can I divide who is notable and who is not? Is Mikel a notable person, or not? How can we judge that? I asked you a question based on official data, so I don't think I can agree if I don't understand exactly what notable means. Anyway, thank you for your opinion. 221.143.186.6 (talk) 23:21, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia has criteria for notability under WP:N. Specifically, we would look at WP:NBIO and reference WP:BASIC and WP:SPORTSPERSON. Under that, we would be referred to WP:NSPORT, which would further refer us to WP:NBASE, where we would see criteria like Baseball figures are presumed notable if they... Are a member of a major Hall of Fame, such as the National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum or the Japanese Baseball Hall of Fame., Have appeared in at least one game in any one of the following active major leagues: Major League Baseball, Nippon Professional Baseball, KBO League, or have participated in a major international competition (such as the World Baseball Classic, Baseball World Cup or Olympics) as a member of a national team. and Have served as a commissioner, president, general manager, owner, coach, or manager in one of the above-mentioned leagues. Does that help? Andromadist (talk) 00:25, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not talking about WP:N, which is the standard for article, but I'm currently asking how many times this person has won the titles. He answered that it's possible to write 14 times because he is a "notable coach". If I asked about 'WP:N', this means that every sportsman article in Wikipedia should be recorded by adding up both his achievements as a coach and as a player. I don't think so.

For example, Ryan Giggs is very famous in English football, he is also a Manchester United legend, and the second-most played in EPL. He was obviously a notable player, and he also managed the team well in Wales. We can notice him both as a player and as a manager. However, he won the FA Cup four times as a player, and won one more FA Cup as an assistant coach. So, should we record his career as a five-time FA Cup winner? If not, what is the difference between Giggs and Dickey?

My question is just about this. 221.143.186.6 (talk) 01:39, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, your question appeared to be broadly about who was notable, so I answered that. As far as I'm aware, there is no policy on how to count wins as a coach versus as a player in the infobox so I can't give a black and white answer, so I've deferred to the style of other articles as per WP:OSE. If there's a convincing policy reason to not follow those articles, I'll revise my position. Andromadist (talk) 02:05, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]