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Q1: Why is Alex Jones described as a far-right conspiracy theorist?

A1: The preponderance of reliable sources describes him as this.

"The case of Mr. Jones and Infowars is tricky for many politicians and figures on the right. While many dislike the idea of tech companies censoring political speech, and Infowars leans far right, Mr. Jones regularly spreads lies, conspiracy theories and inflammatory attacks against political enemies." ----The New York Times

"Kaiser, the Harvard researcher, said that Jones was a far-right 'beacon' -- a sort of gateway who could bring conservatives looking for right-wing media into the extreme fringes via YouTube's recommendations." --CNBC

"Twitter banned far-right conspiracy theorist Alex Jones and his website InfoWars from its platform Thursday afternoon" --CNN

"Twitter announced Thursday that it had banned the accounts of conspiracy theorist Alex Jones and his far-right media company Infowars" --NBC News

"Facebook today removed 22 pages associated with far-right conspiracy theorist Alex Jones" --The Verge

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This article was nominated for deletion on 10 March 2009 (UTC). The result of the discussion was keep.

Let's review, shall we?

Let's review for our newly-arrived Infowars/Newswars/Prison Planet minions, shall we? Alex Jones claims that the US government kidnaps children and makes them slaves at our martian colony, that kids are only pretending to get shot at school and their parents are only pretending to grieve, that Michelle Obama is really a man, that Carrie Fisher of Star Wars fame was killed to boost DVD sales, that the coming New World Order is a demonic high-tech tyranny formed by satanist elites who are using selective breeding to create a supreme race, that tap water is turning frogs gay, that Coronavirus is a hoax, that 5G networks create Coronavirus within human cells (no explanation about the conflict between those last two), that Temple of Baal arches will be erected in multiple cities around the world Real Soon Now, that the Democratic party runs a pedophile ring through pizza shops, that the US government commits acts of terrorism against its own citizens, that Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are literally demons from hell, that the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake and tsunami were a government plot, that Obama wanted to detonate a nuclear bomb in Charleston, South Carolina, that FEMA runs concentration camps, that the US is being invaded by South American walruses... Sounds legit to me! --Guy Macon (talk) 12:46, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comments / questions

Q: Isn't Jones just an actor playing a role without actually believing all of that?

A: It doesn't matter. Millions of people read his webpage, some believe it, and a tiny percentage go to Wikipedia to set us straight. --Guy Macon (talk) 12:46, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Q: Why doesn't this page cover the bit about gay frogs?

A: We only cover those things Alex Jones says that have significant coverage in reliable sources. --Guy Macon (talk) 12:46, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Q: OK, all that other stuff is just silly, but the bit about South American walruses is real!

A: No it isn't. --Guy Macon (talk) 12:46, 21 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

But the gay frogs is pretty funny, you have to admit. Guy (help! - typo?) 20:55, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Here it is for anyone who has not experienced this special moment: [ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tVrntKgdN0 ]

It's like a turd sandwich with Wikipedia's Gay bomb page at the start, The Daily Mail[1] at the end, and Infowars in the middle! --Guy Macon (talk) 21:24, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Guy Macon, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvf6gz58xnI Guy (help! - typo?) 21:40, 10 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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I well like to add how he lives in Austin Texas. He says he lives in Austin, Texas on the Joe Rogen podcast and on his website. Furry fox 300 (talk) 02:52, 11 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for wanting to get the details right. It is sharp-eyed editors like you that make Wikipedia reliable.

Right now the article says "He hosts The Alex Jones Show from Austin, Texas".

Joe Rogen and Infowars are not reliable sources, but there are plenty of reliable sources that say that he lives and works in Austin:

https://www.austinmonthly.com/alex-jones-is-mad-as-hell/

https://www.texasmonthly.com/politics/alex-jones-is-about-to-explode/

In the early life section I changed

"Jones was born on February 11, 1974 in Dallas, Texas, and was raised in the suburb of Rockwall, and later in Austin."

to

"Jones was born on February 11, 1974 in Dallas, Texas, and was raised in the suburb of Rockwall, and moved to Austin in 1991, where he attended Anderson High School."

I think that this, along with "He hosts The Alex Jones Show from Austin, Texas", makes it clear where he lives.

BTW, a Google search on "Alex Jones' House in Austin, TX (Google Maps)" shows some interesting results. --Guy Macon (talk) 06:46, 11 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Alex Jones' House: https://virtualglobetrotting.com/map/alex-jones-house/view/google/ 27.104.203.24 (talk) 09:19, 25 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

CNN as a source

Sources like CNN are invalid due to the lack of independence from the topic. Since Alex is opposed to CNN, they would obviously write articles littered with buzzwords designed to box him as 'far right' to scare people away and label him 'fake news'. CNN reputation is terrible, low ratings and despised by half of Americans. Should it really be used ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.145.222.132 (talk) 19:46, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Please refer to WP:RS for more information and a guide for what determines a reliable source. An individual such as Alex Jones has made negative comments about basically every mainstream news organization at some point, and the ratings or opinion of some individuals in a single country have no relation with the reliability of a source. The vast majority of reliable sources (and literally anybody with a vague understanding of American politics) describe Jones as "far right", and as such, so does Wikipedia. SomerIsland (talk) 20:16, 28 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

CNN is not a reliable source, even by your own criteria. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.145.222.132 (talk) 15:13, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Except it is, according to its own listing at WP:RSP. FDW777 (talk) 15:16, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If you do not think it is an RS take it to wp:rsn and make a case, as wp:consensus right now is it is a wp:rs.Slatersteven (talk) 16:40, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unsuitable language use for a wikipedia article

Copy from intro section: "Jones' website, InfoWars, is derived from conspiracy theories and fake news,[23][24][25] as are his other websites NewsWars and PrisonPlanet" (end copy). This use of slang/buzzwords - that will non make sense in the future - is an example of "wikipedia is non a forum" &c. Text mdnp (talk) 20:59, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Should be written more like, "Infowars postulates dialectical discourse on news events (based on historical insights to treason/lies/veils) - to widen scope of media coverage, outside of embedded media ("propaganda"), greater good statist military industrial complex mass media bottlenecks". Who can fix this article's bias tone? Text mdnp (talk) 20:59, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No. Please read Talk:Alex Jones#Let's review, shall we?. --Guy Macon (talk) 21:13, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I understand that reaction ... but my talk entry still stands. Wikipedia, you & me - & even Alex Jones - deserve better than short sighted zeitgeist agenda-lexicons. Text mdnp (talk) 00:18, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Terms like "conspiracy theories"/"fake news" to wholly describe Infowars/Jones in the intro section - do Wikipedia & Jones a disservice. We need to put words like "postulated media/culture dialectical values/studies" &c. I am non "soap boxing"/foruming/trolling here. We deserve better. Text mdnp (talk) 00:25, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]