User talk:Jtmorgan

Jtmorgan (HostBot) is a man member on Wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Risery Voiple Yelty (talk • contribs) 00:47, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

4-year old typo in HostBot invite?

Hi Jonathan

I'm doing a bit of sorting/spring-cleaning at the Teahouse, and making a metadata table of all 250+ Teahouse subpages, and what function they currently perform, if any. Whilst checking, Wikipedia:Teahouse/HostBot Invitation I noticed there seems to have been a typo introduced by I JethroBT back in 2015 (diff) which makes the invite read as:

"Delivered HostBot on behalf of the Teahouse hosts"

That would be confusing to any new editor, to say the least, so I went in to tweak the text with my new admin superpowers, but was a bit daunted by the scripting, which seems to have placed the 'by' within the script, rather than before it, but it's clearly not working in all the cases I've checked thus far. Here's the script:

Delivered {{ {{{|safesubst:}}}#if: {{{bot|}}}| by {{{bot}}}|{{noping|HostBot}}}} on behalf of the [[WP:Teahouse/Hosts|Teahouse hosts]]

Could you look into this, please, and fix it? I'm reluctant to fiddle with anything whilst the research is ongoing. Pinging Maximilianklein, too. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 16:52, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for looking into this, Nick Moyes. It's actually working as designed, at least when HostBot sends the invite. If you pass a username to the |bot= parameter, it renders "Delivered by BOTNAME on behalf of the Teahouse hosts". If you don't include that parameter, or if you leave it empty, it is supposed to say "Delivered on behalf of the Teahouse hosts", omitting both the bot name and the "by". You can see this working correctly here here (I pasted in the template call code as it is stored in my GitHub repository, removing the extra "{{" and "}}" from all sets of brackets, which are necessary when calling the template in Python, and replacing each instance of "{inviter:s}" with "HostBot". You can test it yourself by pasting this code...

{{subst:Wikipedia:Teahouse/HostBot_Invitation|personal=The Teahouse is a friendly space where new editors can ask questions about contributing to Wikipedia and get help from experienced editors like {{noping|Nick Moyes}} ([[User_talk:Nick Moyes|talk]]). |bot={{noping|HostBot}}|timestamp=~~~~~}}

However, if you paste this code (no value for |bot= ), you get the error.

{{subst:Wikipedia:Teahouse/HostBot_Invitation|personal=The Teahouse is a friendly space where new editors can ask questions about contributing to Wikipedia and get help from experienced editors like {{noping|Nick Moyes}} ([[User_talk:Nick Moyes|talk]]).|bot= |timestamp=~~~~~}}

So, the good news is that newbies HostBot invites aren't seeing the error. If someone uses the template without a value for "bot=", then it will be ungrammatical. This could be changed, but probably doesn't need to be as long as no one uses this version of the Teahouse invite without that value.

Thanks for sanity checking this stuff anyway :) It's always useful to have another set of eyes on things. In that past, I've inserted errors into the code and not noticed for a long time.

Cheers, HostBot, on behalf of Jtmorgan 22:05, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Btw, congrats on your promotion! ;) J-Mo 22:25, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Thank You

	Being a Great Part of the Community
	Thanks for being a great guy! Ryan Lee Langdale 16:38, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Lazy means to guide HostBot to a user talk page?

Hi JTM. Is there a means to guide hostbot to drop its welcome and teahouse invitation on a user's spage. I have been dropping the template on user talk pages, and would prefer that the bot did it, than me. Dealing with numbers of new users creating in main ns that should be in draft ns. I have a gut feel that numbers of these are just problematic editors, however, getting the bot to be guided to do it seems neater (for me). Thanks. — billinghurst sDrewth 01:21, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Ciao Billinghurst, let me see if I get your request: you want to be able to point the bot towards a certain user, and have it drop an invite on their page? I'm guessing you want the bot to do it because you don't want the newcomer to pester you on your talkpage with their questions (else why not just use Twinkle?). If that's not it, let me know. The short answer is that there's no way to do this right now, but we could potentially make a change here. Cheers, J-Mo 17:30, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

In a nutshell … thanks, noted. — billinghurst sDrewth 21:46, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

A possible false positive?

Hello Jtmorgan, my name is Rebestalic

I had a look at your awesome HostBot Top1000 summary as it's time for another Top 25, I'm either excited or afraid to say 😂 Depends

The top place was taken by United States Senate, soaring over second-placed (I'll leave it to you to guess) by over six times the pageviews. As proxy-suggested by the preface on the HostBot's Top 1000, I checked the mobile percentage on Topviews; USS came out with a mobile percentage of 99.9%. That doesn't look normal to me; is it?

Thank you, Rebestalic^{[dubious—discuss]} 05:03, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

P.S. Similarly, Laptop appeared on the Topviews page (at #11, with a mobile percentage of 0.5%) but was nowhere to be found on Hostbot's Top1000; is that a false positive that HostBot's done away with?

Thanks Rebestalic. The US Senate issue is known to me as of a week or so ago, and I'll go ahead and fix it. Pinging MusikAnimal to see if there are any other known false positives that I should be screening out by default (I thought there was a link to this blacklist somewhere in the TopViews interface but I can't find it now). Laptop's absence from the past week's top traffic seems to be valid though. If you look at the daily counts for this article between 3/28 and 4/03, they never get about about 1500 per day, which is not nearly enough to make it into the top ~2000 most viewed articles over that period. There will almost certainly be other consistent false positives though, since as the TopViews FAQ nicely explains WMFs analytics engineering infrastructure is not able to screen out all automated processes that perform ideosyncratic scrapes/hits of particular articles for various (mostly mundane, I suspect) reasons. So please do ping if you see other suspicious patterns. As for whether this is a good source for the Top 25 report--I can say confidently that the vast majority of the highest-traffic pages listed here are all among the very top pages viewed by real human eyeballs, based on what I know about the webrequest schema and processing pipeline that this tool (as well as TopViews, etc) is built on top of. But it's definitely not a certain thing in any given instance—so your sharp eyes and feedback are much appreciated! Cheers, J-Mo 19:43, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

There is an undocumented API for the false positives: https://tools.wmflabs.org/topviews/api.php?project=en.wikipedia.org&date=2020-04-01 (change the date accordingly, or to YYYY-MM for a whole month). There's not much in there as of late, though. The false positive data is crowd-sourced but I have to manually approve the reports one by one, and I've sort of gotten tired of it. So, don't expect this to be definitive or up-to-date.

It's my understanding Analytics already has improved bot filtering in place, it's just running in "dry" mode while they test accuracy. Hopefully manual removal of FPs will soon be a thing of the past! — MusikAnimal ^talk 23:18, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply, Jtmorgan! Very much appreciated and thank you especially for the compliment about sharp eyes as I am very very shortsighted 😂 Musikanimal, could I help with the report approvals or would that require some knowledge about coding (which I am a completely busted Jenga tower at)?

Thank you again, Rebestalic^{[dubious—discuss]} 01:16, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

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I have problems with the permanence of an article in the Wikipedia in Spanish

I am Ernesto, I am an editor on Wikipedia in Spanish and I am writing to you because this program does not exist in my language version. I've been trying to publish an article for the song from the movie Toy Story 4 called "I Can't Let You Throw Yourself Away" that was nominated at the Academy Awards for Best Original Song. What they argue to me is that the article is not encyclopedically relevant without giving me a specific reason despite the fact that I have requested it on many occasions. Investigating, I found that the article had already been removed previously because an editor had said that it had no prestigious awards, and now that it has a nomination for a major award, it seems that it is not enough and they do not give me solid explanations, only vagueness. What's more, the page has been protected from creation and expires in exactly one year. Can you help me please? I would be eternally grateful to you. Liberty tower (talk) 23:18, 1 May 2020 (UTC)Liberty tower

User:Liberty tower You have my sympathy, but there's nothing I can do in this case. The Spanish Wikipedia has its own standards for notability, and they may be different from those of English Wikipedia. However, since the song has now been nominated for an Oscar, I think that there is a good chance that it will meet Spanish Wikipedia's notability standards. I suggest you create a draft of the article in your userspace (see instructions in English), and then either move the article to main namespace yourself, or ask a Spanish Wikipedia admin to review it for you. The most important part of any article is reliable sources: make sure that any information you add about the song is supported by citations! Hope that helps. Good luck! J-Mo 21:54, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

HostBot change

Hey JTM: the template currently being used to generate Wikipedia:WikiProject COVID-19/Article report was renamed; it is now {{COVID-19 pandemic}}. Could you please change HostBot's code to reflect the new template name? Thanks as always, UnitedStatesian (talk) 14:09, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the ping UnitedStatesian, thanks for the heads-up. That'll be an easy change; I'll make it today. If it doesn't look like the report is correct when it updates tomorrow, let me know! Cheers, J-Mo 20:40, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

That change worked great, thanks, but as we think about it more, it would probably be better if the report instead contained the (much larger) set of every page that has a talk page tagged with the project banner {{WikiProject COVID-19}}, rather than each page with the navbox. Is that a change that would be feasible to make? Let me know, and thanks, UnitedStatesian (talk) 01:29, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

UnitedStatesian it might take a bit of work, but it's doable. I'll look into it! J-Mo 20:41, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, keep me posted. UnitedStatesian (talk) 14:58, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Hostbot

Currently welcomes users that are globally locked. See User talk:Wackyjackwars - can it be coded to ignore them? --DannyS712 (talk) 16:54, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

@DannyS712: thanks for the ping. Global locks are new to me. HostBot hits the MediaWiki and checks the (local EnWiki) block log before inviting; however, I don't know how global lock status is accessed programmatically. I'll look into this--please send me links to any relevant docs you're aware of. Alternatively, if it's common practice to put a "globally locked" template on the locked user's page or talkpage, I can perform a quick page text search for particular keywords before posting the invite. So yeah, I'll do some background research but any pointers or ideas are appreciated. Cheers, J-Mo 17:47, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

@Jtmorgan you can use the api - https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/api.php?action=query&meta=globaluserinfo&guiuser=Wackyjackwars shows the locked status DannyS712 (talk) 17:57, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

DannyS712 btw this is now  Done. Cheers, J-Mo 16:35, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the invite.

Thanks for the invite to the Teahouse (via Hostbost). StanTwoCents (talk) 16:18, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

StanTwoCents: I don't operate the bot, you know, but you have a typo. It's HostBot, not HostBost. --テリヤキ (Talk With Me) 12:39, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Appreciation and request

Thank you very much for making information information resources on Wikipedia. Thank you for inviting me to the tee room knowledge advancement. I am a novice contributor and I don't know how to submit a draft. Please sir, help me to submit this Draft:Innocent Ujah Sadeeqzaria (talk) 10:04, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Sadeeqzaria. Ask this question at the Teahouse! They'll be able to help you. Best, J-Mo 20:45, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

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Restore page

Hello can you please assist me in restoring the page. DavidElias83 (talk) 18:24, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

About asking questions

Hi Lucas Motsolwana (talk) 08:29, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

WIlling to have my name signed

Hey, I'm willing to have my name signed on the HostBot invitations! HeartGlow ^(talk) 03:04, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

sounds good, HeartGlow. I’ll add you to the list! J-Mo 01:12, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Researcher rights

Hey! I noticed that you have researcher rights. I want researcher rights so that I can collect some data for a bot I'm trying to build, but I can't figure out where to apply for them. The requests for permissions page says nothing about where to do it. Can you direct me to the right place? Sam at Megaputer (talk) 19:56, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Sam at Megaputer:. The best place to ask about this is probably the wiki-research-l mailing list: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wiki-research-l That's also a good place to introduce yourself and ask questions about research on Wikipedia. Cheers, J-Mo 21:05, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks! I'll do that. Sam at Megaputer (talk) 22:18, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thanks for running HostBot, who invited me to the teahouse! D4135t (talk) 17:34, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

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Some falafel for you!

Thank you for inviting me to go to the Teahouse! Meshimeshikoko (talk) 19:34, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you!

You mentioned on your Teahouse profile that you like tea, and on behalf of everyone who's ever asked a question there: thanks.

Ex-Borg Seven of Nine (talk) 23:36, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Er,

Wikipedians also recommend biscuits with tea.

Ex-Borg Seven of Nine (talk) has given you a cup of tea. Tea promotes WikiLove and hopefully this has made your day ever so slightly better.

Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a tea, especially if it is someone you have had disagreements with in the past or someone putting up with some stick at this time. Enjoy!

Spread the lovely, warm, refreshing goodness of tea by adding {{subst:wikitea}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Ex-Borg Seven of Nine (talk) 23:42, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for inviting at tea house.

So what’s the course of action here :) Secretadmireriam (talk) 21:16, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

I wrote height, awards, punctuation, grammar, and other important stuff which was missing about her, also I added citation (web links) to prove what I wrote there Secretadmireriam (talk) 21:31, 2 December 2020 (UTC)

Welcome to warned users

Hi Jtmirgan,

First congratulations for your work.

I was wondering if the HostBot could take in account the previous warning messages in a user talk page. I have found that the bot is welcoming users after they had been warning of vandalism (example). It is strange, because first we tell them they are doing a wrong thing, and after that we give them a "warm" welcome. I am not sure if "level 1 warning" would be enough for preventing the welcome, but sure for level 3 or 4. What do you think about it ? Alexcalamaro (talk) 16:26, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi Alexcalamaro! HostBot should already be skipping users with Level 3 & 4 user warnings, but the process for detecting these isn't very sophisticated. Basically, HostBot looks for a string like Template:Uw-vandalism1 (and several variants) within the wikitext of the messages on the page. Since the example you provided is a level 1 warning, that particular invite was delivered correctly. However, there are a couple reasons that HostBot may accidentally invite someone with a higher level warning, and it's not always easy to cover all the contingencies. So, if you find additional examples of invites to users with higher level user warnings, post them here and I'll investigate them and (if possible) update the code to fix that issue in the future. Thanks for checking in! And thanks for your work, too ;) J-Mo 20:06, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

That's perfect. If I found some welcoming with a level 3/4 warning I'll let you know. Alexcalamaro (talk) 20:50, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

Digital Love

	Digital Love
	thanks honey! Christinepittet (talk) 22:43, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for the invite

hey Hostbot,

Thank you for the invite at teahouse , i m newbie here kindly guide me how to write article.

Thanks & Regards, Rathore Deepa (Rathoredeepa) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rathoredeepa (talk • contribs) 07:18, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

Thanks for the warm welcome Rathoredeepa (talk) 07:20, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

Elijah12354

Hello Jtmorgan my name is Elijah but on wikapedia i go by Elijah12354 I am hear to say hello and i wanted to introduce myself to u --Elijah12354 (talk) 14:57, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

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HostBot invite to the Teahouse

i am asking this "Why hostbot invited me to the TeaHouse?" IDK. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cebolitt (talk • contribs) 19:07, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Cebolitt, It's just a bot 🔥LightningComplexFire🔥 21:41, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

I know, but i am asking why this bot invited me to the Teahouse. David Ass. (talk) 20:35, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia Researcher

Hi! I want to become a Female Wikipedia Researcher, here in Philippines. I am a High School Graduate and I have an Attorney, who believed that I really am a Magpayang National High School Graduate, because I can't remember where's my high school card, it's lost, from our house I guess. Please don't be angry I like your work, that I even copy pasted it.:) Gkmirror (talk) 08:01, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Hey

Bro, can you please help me to creat a page of mine. I’m trying for 32hrs Hasan MD Tanvir (talk) 02:49, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Bro you there? Hasan MD Tanvir (talk) 02:50, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Top 25

Well, of course some help is welcome! Specially that once Andrew.g's data fell, there was also the extra work of going through the WMF tool a lot to compile 25 entries. (the lack of people to write the reports - some are MIA, others stopped answering - is another deal entirely) Anything to make this easier and recall the good days where the Report could be done early in the week. igordebraga ≠ 22:08, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Igordebraga great! This report should now be updating with fresh daily counts (for the previous day) every day at around 17:00 UTC. I believe that soon I should be able to update the report so that it gives weekly counts, like Popular Pages did. I'll update you on my progress there; I might even be able to get it done this week. Cheers, J-Mo 23:06, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

If this supports a variable time range, I think it would be nice to have a report for the entire prior month in the WP:Signpost. It has been forced to use weekly lists in the past. See this discussion. Thanks. MB 22:20, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

MB the topviews tool provides monthly counts. Does that address your needs? Cheers, J-Mo 23:03, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

The Top 1000 tool hasn't updated since the 20th, can you see what's wrong? (and then there's the possibility of the views to add in "include redirects" as with tab one tab of the Toolforge page, but that must be complicated) igordebraga ≠ 05:57, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the ping, Igordebraga. I'll look into it this week. Hopefully an easy fix :) I'll update you when I know the status. Cheers, J-Mo 20:28, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Igordebraga I'm finally getting a chance to look into this. Some weird error with the pageview API. Will update when I have a fix or at least a better sense of the issue :) Cheers, J-Mo 19:07, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Role

I edited/composed topics at our School Paper before, when I'm still a 3rd Year High School Student, because of Ms. Norie Caballero, our Female English Teacher. My role is Female Associate Editor. I want to edit here, at Wikipedia too, to see if I am a boy already as Ms. Eva Abao expected me to be in her dreams, on her Class Record. I don't want to be the cause of rape by anybody, especially my siblings-in-laws, brethren, friends or anybody. I respected myself, our God and my innocent fellowmen. Gkmirror (talk) 14:59, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks HostBot!

	Microchips
	I gave HostBot microchips for being a good bot. 4D4850 (talk) 16:45, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Special Barnstar
	There you go. Thx for the invite Nub 123 ALT (talk) 18:57, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

I need urgent help

I think I messed up with the awards and nominations section for “Anam Tanveer” and hence awards and nominations section is by mistake merged with references ana external link section. Please help me correct it I’m very much new to wiki pedia !! Secretadmireriam (talk) 12:10, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Attire

What's the best attire for a University Student? Gkmirror (talk) 06:40, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Job

Occupation is my problem. I don't have a rich occupation. Can you suggest?, since you're more intelligent than me. Please do reply. Thanks. Gkmirror (talk) 06:44, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Assistance needed want to talk to the tea house

I put it on my page my accident & wanted one of you to know & i will quote it from my page “ Tea house I would like to appeal a warning from a bot that I am not part of that flagged me , what I will tell is I do not know what a sandbox is or how to set it up , I wanted to fix it as a responsible adult but the bot did it for me please help me with this 3DPrintingTimPostma (talk) 23:23, 16 February 2021 (UTC)” 3DPrintingTimPostma (talk) 23:26, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Request to protect the latex article

There is various edit wars about some sexually perverse image under latex & I think it’s immature & inappropriate if they want to do it use the appropriate page , like clothes were invented for a reason & I do not mean the Canadian winter I’m currently living in 3DPrintingTimPostma (talk) 14:50, 20 February 2021 (UTC)