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Monolinguals

I found it a bit remarkable that there are several thousand monolingual Navajo speakers in the US. It makes sense for immigrant groups like Russians or Chinese, but not so much for native US languages (unless there's Spanish involved of course). There is a rather odd contradiction in the source, though. In the table on page 3, 2.2% stated that the speak English "not at all", but the percentage that reported speaking a "language other than English at home" was 0.3%.

Even if the percentage is calculated from the total number of self-reported speakers, it doesn't seem to add up. So where does the figure of 7,600 come from?

Peter Isotalo 03:25, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think it means that the 169,369 Navajo speakers make up 0.3% of the 60,577,020 people who speak a language other than English at home. And 2.2% of those 169,369 speak no English, and 4,8 speak little Enlgish. I dont think it is weird at all that there are monolingual speakers of indigenous languages in the US, and I dont know why you would think so. If anything people on the Navajo reservation live a lot more isolated from the English speaking majority than Chinese or Russians in New York.User:Maunus ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 19:30, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 10 October 2016

Because the IPA does not use acute accents to represent tonal distinctions in vowels, I request that, starting at the beginning of the paragraph before the "Navajo Orthography" and ending at the following "Sample text" heading, someone please replace this source:

Navajo represents nasalized vowels with an ogonek ( ˛ ), sometimes described as a reverse cedilla; and represents the voiceless alveolar lateral fricative (/ɬ/) with a barred L (capital Ł, lowercase ł). The ogonek and the barred L were imported from Polish, while the use of an acute accent for vowels with a high tone was taken from French.[1]

Navajo orthography
’ a á ą ą́ aa áá ąą ą́ą́ b ch ch’ d dl dz e é ę ę́ ee éé ęę ę́ę́ g gh h hw i í į į́ ii
ʔ ɑ ɑ́ ɑ̃ ɑ̃́ ɑː ɑ́ː ɑ̃ː ɑ̃́ː p tʃʰ tʃ’ t tˡ ts e é ẽ ẽ́ eː éː ẽː ẽ́ː k ɣ h/x xʷ ɪ ɪ́ ɪ̃ ɪ̃́ ɪː
íí įį į́į́ j k k’ kw l ł m n o ó ǫ ǫ́ oo óó ǫǫ ǫ́ǫ́ s sh t t’ tł tł’ ts ts’ w y z zh
ɪ́ː ɪ̃ː ɪ̃́ː tʃ kx k’ kxʷ l ɬ m n o ó õ ṍ oː óː õː ṍː s ʃ tx t’ tɬʰ tɬ’ tsʰ ts’ w j z ʒ

==Sample text==

With this source:

Navajo represents nasalized vowels with an ogonek ( ˛ ), sometimes described as a reverse cedilla; and represents the voiceless alveolar lateral fricative (/ɬ/) with a barred L (capital Ł, lowercase ł). The ogonek and the barred L were imported from Polish, while the use of an acute accent for vowels with a high tone was taken from French.[1]

Navajo orthography
’ a á ą ą́ aa áá ąą ą́ą́ b ch ch’ d dl dz e é ę ę́ ee éé ęę ę́ę́ g gh h hw i í į į́ ii
ʔ ɑ˩ ɑ˥ ɑ̃˩ ɑ̃˥ ɑ˩ː ɑ˥ː ɑ̃˩ː ɑ̃˥ː p tʃʰ tʃ’ t tˡ ts e˩ e˥ ẽ˩ ẽ˥ e˩ː e˥ː ẽ˩ː ẽ˥ː k ɣ h/x xʷ ɪ˩ ɪ˥ ɪ̃˩ ɪ̃˥ ɪ˩ː
íí įį į́į́ j k k’ kw l ł m n o ó ǫ ǫ́ oo óó ǫǫ ǫ́ǫ́ s sh t t’ tł tł’ ts ts’ w y z zh
ɪ˥ː ɪ̃˩ː ɪ̃˥ː tʃ kx k’ kxʷ l ɬ m n o˩ o˥ õ˩ õ˥ o˩ː o˥ː õ˩ː õ˥ː s ʃ tx t’ tɬʰ tɬ’ tsʰ ts’ w j z ʒ

==Sample text==

Thank you.

173.160.70.89 (talk) 05:20, 10 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template.  Paine  u/c 22:48, 11 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ a b Spolsky 2009, p. 86
The original table is much easier to understand. The IP's suggestion is bewildering. The original one could use some adjusting, however. Compare with wikt:Appendix:Navajo alphabet. —Stephen (talk) 11:03, 22 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 11 June 2017

Please add a link to the Wikipedia article on "Athabaskan languages" where "Athabaskan" is mentioned in the "Navajo language" article. 88.173.59.97 (talk) 20:33, 11 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: The page's protection level has changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. Izno (talk) 12:47, 12 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Any speakers?

Could use input here: Talk:Nádleehi#Need RS sourcing on dilbaa' etc. Thanks. - CorbieV ☊ ☼ 22:50, 16 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Unclear

The second paragraph of § Revitalization and current status contains the sentence

In 1980 they published a monumental expansion of their work on the language, organized by word (first initial of vowel or consonant) in the pattern of English dictionaries, as requested by Navajo students.


What does "first initial of vowel or consonant" mean? First and initial are synonymous. A word's or syllable's initial phoneme (in speech) or letter (in writing), whether vowel or consonant, is by definition unique: there can be only one. The only sense I can make of this expression is as a copy-and-paste error for "first vowel or consonant" or "initial vowel or consonant". In this context, referring to print rather than speech, "vowel or consonant" is equivalent to "letter". Furthermore, "the pattern of English dictionaries" at this broad level of detail is determined by the spelling of the entire word and is generally called alphabetical order. I am revising the sentence accordingly.

--Thnidu (talk) 17:46, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

History

I love how elaborate this article is, but it certainly isn't complete. The history section is a bit meagre. It barely tells us what happened before the invention of the current orthography in 1937. Its written history must be longer. It was probably occasionally written in colonial times and in the days of white expansion into the region, and these records probably give a clue about how the language evolved in these days. Also: there's nothing about dialects. Is Navajo so uniform? Steinbach (talk) 13:04, 26 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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