Talk:Health and environmental effects of battery electric cars
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Electric cars are not environmentally efficient.
Everyone talks about how electric cars are great for the environment, but in reality they are probably worse. They create more pollution in manufacturing, due to the metals needed for the battery, the electricity they run on comes from, for the most part, coal, natural gas and nuclear power (wind power is inefficient, hydroelectric dams are expensive, solar power is both), and when being scrapped, the batteries must be disposed of, and that creates a lot of pollution. Not that CO2 output matters, because it is necessary for life on earth and has played a minor cause in global warming (most of it is natural, and climate predictions are unreliable). I will get sources soon.2601:245:C101:6BCC:0:0:0:C1F2 (talk) 16:56, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
- This article answers your concerns. EVs are NOT worse than ICEs, you can find the correct and comprehensive answer properly supported by reliable sources cited in the article, including those emissions of manufacturing. Before engaging in an endless controversy, please be aware that you have to provide reliable sources as defined by Wikipedia, not original research, and please, no fringe source with clear bias against the scientific consensus about climate change. The minority view about climate change is fully discussed in the global warming controversy and climate change denial articles. This is no place to bring that discussion. Cheers.--Mariordo (talk) 00:41, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
- Actually the jury is still out on whether in most jurisdictions EVs have much effect either way on CO2 emissions. The country with the most BEVs has a fairly carbon intensive grid. Not that CO2 really matters very much.Greglocock (talk) 21:42, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
- I'm not denying climate change, I'm just saying it's exaggerated, mostly natural, and climate change predictions are unreliable.2601:245:C101:6BCC:D855:D5F2:3EDB:6966 (talk) 01:12, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
In evaluating overall efficiency of electric vehicles, shouldn't the article discuss, at least briefly, (1) the efficiency of the sources of electrical energy (coal/gas/nuclear etc.) and (2) the efficiency of transmitting that energy/energy loss? It seems that a comparison of (1) and (2) against producing that energy by the burning of gas in a gas vehicle would be necessary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.162.196.82 (talk) 23:46, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
Is the "advantages and disadvantages" section useful
The title does not say advantages and disadvantages compared to what. I could compare electric cars to many transport options, e.g. electric bikes cannot be autonomous as far as I know, but it would get complicated. Should the heading be removed? Chidgk1 (talk) 06:33, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
Needs a picture of tyre particulates I think
But I cannot find one. What do you think? Chidgk1 (talk) 18:29, 6 March 2021 (UTC)