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[edit]00:19:55, 12 March 2021 review of submission by Pogerina
[edit]This was rejected but I don't know why. Please help! It said something about putting references in footnotes but I did not know I had any 'references'. Pogerina (talk) 00:19, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hi Pogerina. You have to tell the reader where every piece of information in the draft came from. Do so by citing sources (also known as references). Help:Referencing for beginners is a simplified introduction to the mechanics.
- Sources should be published, reliable sources. Reliable has a distinctive meaning on Wikipedia. Many sources you might think are trustworthy, such as Discogs, IMDb, and YouTube, generally are not reliable as far as Wikipedia is concerned. Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums/Sources contains a list of sources Wikipedians have found useful when writing about music.
- Furthermore, the bulk of the draft should come from independent, secondary sources, so not Rietveld (including primary source interviews of him without independent analysis), nor his label, nor others who have an interest in promoting him. The best sources will also contain significant coverage (at least a few paragraphs) about him. Try to find at least three reliable, independent, secondary sources, that contain significant coverage of him.
- As an example, for the statement, "Rietveld joined Miles Davis's band for his 1988 World Tour", I've added a citation to an independent, reliable source (a book written by a notable music writer). Add citations for everything in the biography and awards sections. It is not important to have citations in the discography and filmography sections if the credits of the albums and films themselves support the listing. --Worldbruce (talk) 07:03, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
07:59:55, 12 March 2021 review of submission by Athinarayanan1
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Athinarayanan1 (talk) 07:59, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- Athinarayanan1, Wikipedia may not be used to advertise your own business. Fiddle Faddle 08:11, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
09:27:27, 12 March 2021 review of submission by 2400:4050:A1A3:BD00:9539:3103:96AA:C9DE
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2400:4050:A1A3:BD00:9539:3103:96AA:C9DE (talk) 09:27, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- You don't ask a question, but the draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. 331dot (talk) 09:28, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
14:41:49, 12 March 2021 review of submission by Cakeybuns
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Cakeybuns (talk) 14:41, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
Why was this declined
- Cakeybuns As noted by the reviewer on the draft, this person does not seem to meet notability guidelines. As such, it has been rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. 331dot (talk) 14:50, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
19:29:18, 12 March 2021 review of submission by 204.10.221.47
[edit]- 204.10.221.47 (talk · contribs)
- No draft specified!
I need a paragraph about WWII ending
204.10.221.47 (talk) 19:29, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- "World War II is generally considered to have ended in 1945. Pedants suggest it only ended after the reunification of Germany."
- There you go. Fiddle Faddle 23:02, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
19:36:17, 12 March 2021 review of draft by MuddySloth
[edit]- MuddySloth (talk · contribs)
Just had an article rejected, I wanted to see what was wrong. it says "references" but I'm not sure what other references would be needed.
I've included the subject website along with dates. Any assistance on what else is needed would be appreciated, thanks.
MuddySloth (talk) 19:36, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- MuddySloth Your draft is almost entirely sourced to the subject's website- and the two that aren't are just ads for the comics. Wikipedia articles summarize what independent reliable sources state about a topic, showing how it meets the special Wikipedia definition of notability. Wikipedia isn't interested in what a subject(or those associated with it) says about itself, only in what others completely unconnected with the subject have chosen on their own to say about it. 331dot (talk) 19:42, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
How many outside references are needed for a subject to be "notable?" Thank you MuddySloth (talk) 22:39, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- MuddySloth Most reviewers look for at least three independent reliable sources with significant coverage, that the article should summarize. Primary sources do note establish notability. Please ask follow up questions in this existing section, instead of creating new sections. 331dot (talk) 22:55, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
- MuddySloth, (edit conflict)It is generally considered that three references of quality will allow a draft to be accepted. However references alone are not the whole thing. Prose has to be flat and neutral too.
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- We require references from significant coverage about the topic of the article, and independent of it, and in WP:RS please. See WP:42. Please also see WP:PRIMARY which details the limited permitted usage of primary sources and WP:SELFPUB which has clear limitations on self published sources. Providing sufficient references, ideally one per fact referred to, that meet these tough criteria is likely to allow this article to remain . Lack of them or an inability to find them is likely to mean that the topic is not suitable for inclusion, certainly today.
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- This may be difficult for this topic, so research and choose well Fiddle Faddle 22:58, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
21:31:06, 12 March 2021 review of draft by 195.35.231.211
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Can someone make it better? translate someone of dutch article into the English one? My English is bad. This was intended as a novice.