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Okay first off, address the Wikipedia policy the other editor has brought forward (MOS:OVERLINK), as opposed to making assertions that it "always exists," (which can easily be refuted through the edit history. I mean... the initial edit I reverted was the edit that added those wlinks... so... by virtue of that.. it clearly hasn't always been there). Dispute resolutions on Wikipedia is resolved through consultation of Wikipedia's policies, and Manual of Style, so I suggest you address that if you want to move forward on this discussion. And in saying that, regardless if whether or not that "was always there" (which it is not), it still does not provide grounds for that particular article to deviate from Wikipedia's Manual of Style. In any case, if you disagree with the Manual of Style, I suggest you bring that up with the article's talk page, as opposed to trying to stir up an edit war. Leventio (talk) 00:04, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You're clearly in the minority, the links were gone for a week before being put up again only to be deleted by you. Get a consensus going on the article's talk page, then it can change. Until then, the status quo should remain as such. If you were to act again, you would be acting unilaterally, which, ya know, is generally frowned upon. WikiIndustrialComplex (talk) 00:48, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I've been giving proper explanation throughout. Bring it on! WikiIndustrialComplex (talk) 00:57, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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I can do without the condescending tone, asshole. You're easily the worst Wiki admin I've ever come across. How can you possibly believe the article is BETTER the way it is now??? It literally defies all possible logic. And I'm sure you'll cite more bullshit for this response (you'll say "Have you read WP:LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, I'M THE CAPTAIN NOW, there's a detailed rationale for why I'm brilliant and you suck"), but this absolutely infuriating, I have never seen a minority so drastically change an intro paragraph for an article in a week. It's truly reprehensible. WikiIndustrialComplex (talk) 01:07, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I also think editors like you, to a certain extent, get off on harassing edits made in good faith from editors like me. You wanna cite rules? Whatever happened to WP:Assume good faith? WikiIndustrialComplex (talk) 01:14, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

National Recording Registry + Punctuation.

I notice you amended/reverted a couple of my edits on the basis that it's usual to employ a particular form of words when discussing additions to the NRR. You are not incorrect in saying this. Unfortunately, however, in none of the documents I've read does NRR itself use the phrase in question, which appears almost exclusively to be preserve of lazy journalists (and to quote an academic I consulted, is a "clumsy" use of English). My language was, in fact, much closer to that of both the NRR and BBC (i.e. the two references I cited). Essentially, therefore, your argument boils down to the maxim "repeat what you encounter most often even if it's wrong".

On a related point, whatever your personal opinion, there is no consensus regarding the serial comma and whether its omission constitutes bad punctuation!! I was quoting the BBC article rather than the NRR, and the BBC writer left the comma out. However, the BBC did not misquote the NRR, which doesn't seem able to quite make up its mind on the issue – the 2020 press release includes the phrases "cultural, historical and aesthetic importance", "culturally, historically or aesthetically significant" (both without the final comma) and “culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant” (with the comma). That's a 2:1 majority against the serial comma, which given that its noninclusion here introduces no ambiguity, is good enough for me!!

To use a comma after "In 2020" is perhaps less problematic, although I would argue against its use here since when reading the sentence aloud a pause would not generally be inserted after the date. If one was referring to 2020 in opposition to another year, I would agree that the comma would certainly be desirable:

(e.g.) In 2019 the weather was unusually sunny. In 2020, the reserve was true.

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Delius: you seem to be still rather "new", or yould know that per WP:BRD, YOU should seek consensus for your addition on the talk when you are reverted, instead of reverting back and beginning an edit war. The question "significance?" wasn't even answered in your revert back. How are these plaques significant for his biography? For the place, may be. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:25, 11 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm sorry, I was merely conveying a concern to other users who might have encountered the edits. I did have reason to believe it was vandalism, I would not have said so otherwise. It felt like removing the updated Harris portrait without reason could be potential vandalism, I even looked it up. WikiIndustrialComplex (talk) 08:13, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the apology. These edits were not vandalism, which has a very narrow definition; please read WP:VANDALISM carefully. Vandalism is only editing specifically intended to harm Wikipedia, and should not be confused with other forms of disruptive editing. ― Tartan357 Talk 08:27, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Upon rereading what I said, I take some issue because I used a lot of ambiguous language, words like "appears" and "might" because I wasn't sure. Am I being punished for having uncertainty...? Additionally, the user was not saying why the portraits were taken down, which I view as a far more egregious issue and one of the main reasons I suspected vandalism. But I bet you didn't leave any message on his talk page about it... WikiIndustrialComplex (talk) 19:55, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
WikiIndustrialComplex, again, this doesn't even approach vandalism. At most, it would be disruptive editing. Stop with these ridiculous false accusations. Using "ambiguous" language does not excuse making unsubstantiated accusations of misconduct. You should not suggest other editors have behaved inappropriately without solid evidence. Without evidence, such insinuations are a form of personal attack; see WP:ASPERSIONS. Also, I don't think you've been "punished" at all. A warning message is hardly a punishment. ― Tartan357 Talk 20:04, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Will you please STOP re-inserting that new Harris image, in articles? It's currently under copyright discussion. Now smarten up. GoodDay (talk) 17:50, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

We both know it's in the public domain as a government photo, it's just users like you who want to put up roadblocks....WikiIndustrialComplex (talk) 18:13, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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March 2021

Stop icon You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you make personal attacks on other people, as you did at User talk:WikiIndustrialComplex [1]. Comment on content, not on fellow editors. Toddst1 (talk) 15:02, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The other user is allowed to say "smarten up," but I'm not allowed to say they're putting up "roadblocks"...? Last time I checked, that is not a personal attack.WikiIndustrialComplex (talk) 17:14, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Embassy of Antigua and Barbuda, Washington, D.C. (March 23)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Dan arndt was:
This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.
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Fails WP:NBUILDING, requires significant coverage in multiple independent secondary sources.
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Embassy of Antigua and Barbuda, Washington, D.C. (March 23)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Dan arndt was:
This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.
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Still fails WP:NBUILDING, requires significant in-depth coverage by reliable, third-party sources to establish notability. Embassies are not inherently notable - see WP:OTHER.
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Dan arndt (talk) 06:51, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Embassy of Antigua and Barbuda, Washington, D.C.

I strongly suggest that you read the requirements of WP:NBUILDING, and the argument that Other stuff exists is not a valid argument. Just because I currently reside in Australia doesn't mean that I am not qualified to make comments on buildings in Washington D. C. If you wish for the article to be moved from the draftspace then you need to provide significant in-depth coverage in reliable, third-party sources to establish it's notability. Dan arndt (talk) 06:55, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think you understand there is no question that the embassy exists, so taking a photo of it doesn't prove anything. The fundamental issue is whether the embassy is notable for this to be established you need to provide significant coverage of the embassy (not mentions in passing or inclusion on lists) in reliable secondary sources. Dan arndt (talk) 07:10, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Embassy of Antigua and Barbuda, Washington, D.C.. Thanks! Dan arndt (talk) 06:58, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Embassy of Antigua and Barbuda, Washington, D.C. (March 23)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Dan arndt was:
This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.
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Still fails WP:NBUILDING for the reasons previously listed.
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Embassy of Antigua and Barbuda, Washington, D.C. (March 23)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Dan arndt was:
This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.
 The comment the reviewer left was:
The Allgov reference provided is about Sir Ronald Sanders not the embassy.
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Dan arndt (talk) 07:12, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Embassy of Antigua and Barbuda, Washington, D.C. (March 23)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Dan arndt was:
This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.
 The comment the reviewer left was:
As clearly stated previously there needs to be significant in-depth coverage (about the embassy not the ambassador) in reliable, third-party sources in order to establish it's notability.
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.
Dan arndt (talk) 07:16, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Embassy of Antigua and Barbuda, Washington, D.C. (March 23)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Dan arndt was:
This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.
 The comment the reviewer left was:
Do not take this personally. Wikipedia has certain standards that apply to whether a building is notable, the most fundamental of which is that there needs to be significant coverage in multiple independent secondary sources. Just because other stuff exists does not mean that this article is notable. Please refer to WP:NBUILDING.
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.
Dan arndt (talk) 07:25, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Embassy of Antigua and Barbuda, Washington, D.C. (March 23)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Dan arndt was:
This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.
 The comment the reviewer left was:
As previously stated the whether the other embassies in Washington satisfy Wikipedia's notability requirements is irrelevant when assessing this AfC. The standards for notability are clearly set out in WP:NBUILDING.
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.
Dan arndt (talk) 07:31, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Embassy of Antigua and Barbuda, Washington, D.C. for deletion

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Dan arndt (talk) 08:05, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You're the worst, dude. WikiIndustrialComplex (talk) 08:14, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
(ec) You shouldn't blame Dan arndt for your decision to go around the AFC process and create the article anyway. 331dot (talk) 08:14, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I think he's just mad I outsmarted him, almost as mad as he's going to be when everyone takes my side in nomination for deletion and realizes what a fool he's been acting like... WikiIndustrialComplex (talk) 08:17, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
If this harassment continues, you will be blocked and unable to comment on the deletion discussion further. Stop commenting about Dan arndt personally and focus on the content, please. 331dot (talk) 08:18, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

March 2021

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By all means, go take a picture of the embassy, but you can certainly do so without vilifying other users. This is your second block (I'm lumping in your initial block with the extension), so it's longer. "Making a stink" isn't an acceptable way to interact with other editors. Acroterion (talk) 18:03, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Another sycophantic bureaucrat doing Uncle Jimbo's bidding. Yet you won't look into how I was treated, because that's not how you operate. You operate from a place of experienced users are angels who never do anything wrong, and where less experienced users are constantly and frequently shat upon. The person who is most deserving of consequences is [User: Dan ardnt]] who has been an absolute obstructionist throughout this entire process. The fact that the article was even nominated for deletion was about personal revenge against me specifically, and if you can't see that, you don't deserve the power over other users you currently wield. I make a reference to "making a stink," I didn't curse or lose my temper despite how frustrating the experience was (and the fact that Wikipedia demand all super-editors and admins purge all human emotion and compassion and essentially become Vulcans) and suddenly that's a crime against humanity...? Literally, people like you find reasons to mess and block with other users. In the real world, this would be called bullying. This is a clear issue of bias, if I had all those crappy awards and little templates on my user page, this literally would not be happening right now. Yet another example of the inherent hypocrisy and bias against less experienced user that plague the vast majority of experienced editors... WikiIndustrialComplex (talk) 18:22, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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