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Re-creating the article Dog harness - closing of a splitting discussion
Hi there, after a number of neutral opinion there is now one more opinion (apart from mine) that favors the (re-)creation of the article that is titled Dog harness. Can you close this splitting discussion after this many weeks at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Pet_harness so Draft:Dog_harness can become an article? Is there anything we have to wait for before it can happen? Is there anything I could add or do to make it happen? Can you help in deleting the redirection of Dog harness and re-creating the article based on the draft I made? Thank you for your help! Repassyz (talk) 16:17, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
- Repassyz, I've requested CSD on the Dog harness redirect. When that clears I can approve the article. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 18:54, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
- AngusWOOF, thank you for your help and support! Repassyz (talk) 12:09, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
- Repassyz, please try to fill in better content with supporting references. The article had to get condensed and cleaned up a lot, and many editors don't think it should stay around. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 14:20, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
Changes and additions have been made based on the AfC comment. Please review the AfC resubmission. Thanks. --Will74205 (talk) 22:07, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
- Will74205, I'm letting it through since the season has started. Please continue to find news articles to support that. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 22:14, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
BriGuel page
Hi, the AfD was more than a year ago. Can we have a separate article now? Raenilakis (talk) 20:41, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
- Raenilakis, there's not enough to show the duo is separately notable. Please indicate how BriGuel meets WP:MUSICBIO. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 21:12, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
Draft: Sandra Caldwell
I was surprised to see this draft marked for deletion, given the NYT profile and the numerous places elsewhere on Wikipedia in which Caldwell's name appears in the listed cast. I hope this will have more adjudication, given the importance of improving Wikipedia's coverage of both Black and trans people. Digitalrhetoric (talk) 23:56, 19 March 2021 (UTC)Digitalrhetoric
- Digitalrhetoric, I don't see it marked for deletion? Was it because it was not edited for 6 months? AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 00:10, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
I am writing about the Sandra Caldwell (actress) entry at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Sandra_Caldwell_(actress)Digitalrhetoric (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 00:54, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
- Digitalrhetoric, again, I don't see any tags where it is being marked for deletion. No MFD or CSD going on. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 01:40, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
Frguida - Edit page Italian Masonic International Order - Mars 21 2021
Angus WOOF wrote to me that "The references of this submission do not show that the topic qualifies for a Wikipedia article, i.e. they do not show significant coverage (not just passing quotes) on the topic in published, reliable and independent secondary sources. from the subject ", but I have indicated independent references (newspapers and books) in Italian, as well as necessary references to the statute of the association. If you ask me for bibliographic references in English I cannot publish anything on this subject because they do not exist at this time. But I must point out that this topic has already been published in Italian and Spanish. I believe it is important that it is also published in English because it is a new form of association completely different from all the others. I am attentive to your suggestions for improving the text and I ask you to delete the page elaborated on December 4th. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.40.193.159 (talk) 11:26, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
- 93.40.193.159, did you construct the article from translating the Italian and Spanish Wikipedias? Also please indicate which ones are the independent references? AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 14:54, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
Frguida: 1° Answer: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordine_Massonico_Tradizionale_Italiano, https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orden_Mas%C3%B3nica_Tradicional_Italiana.
2° Answuer: Cite error: A <ref>
tag is missing the closing </ref>
(see the help page). 93.40.193.159 (talk) 09:01, 23 March 2021 (UTC)frguida93.40.193.159 (talk) 09:01, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
- 93.40.193.159, 1) Vanessaseffer.it appears to be a blog 2) Catena.org is a primary source - masonic website 3) opinione.it appears to be a Q&A interview, mostly primary source Do you have any others that give significant coverage and are independent of the subject? AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 14:50, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
the sources you mentioned are not primary sources because they make synthesis, analysis of a primary source. It is true that they are few and weak but it is also true that the object they deal with (traditional Italian Masonic Order) is recent even if important in the Masonic panorama. Also, the primary sources I mentioned are verifiable. Apart from these notes, I ask you to suggest me how I can overcome the difficulties to publish the text with the available resources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.40.193.159 (talk) 10:43, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
- 93.40.193.159, you need secondary sources independent of the subject. Catena.org still makes it appear like they're associated with this organization. This would be like if Disney wrote an article about a Star Wars novel; they certainly didn't work on the actual details of producing and publicizing it, but because they're strongly associated with the Star Wars brand, there is apparent conflict-of-interest with discussing it. So if you have other secondary sources, please present those on the talk page and add a note so that AFC reviewers can see that. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 17:24, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
Request on 15:49:08, 24 March 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by 静けさ
I am requesting assistance because you are the one that reviewed my Draft. I feel that is logical is it not?
Hello, I am requesting assistance because you are the one that reviewed my Draft. I would like to ask did you check all of the sources? I had the Verge A fox media company as one of my sources. If it is just a few websites you could just ask for them to be removed. I would just like you to clarify the exact reasons and what I can do to improve it.
Have a nice day.
静けさ (talk) 15:49, 24 March 2021 (UTC)静けさ
静けさ (talk) 15:49, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
- 静けさ, The main problem is that you provided any external news sources about the subject that are independent of the subject. See WP:ANYBIO or WP:BASIC. You also should not use any youtube videos as sources as those are primary. That's over two-thirds of the sources posted on the draft. That's way too many and doesn't help notability. It also does not need a play-by-play of each match of the week. That is excessive detail, and is considered routine news coverage WP:ROUTINE, even for e-sports people. Those sections need to be removed. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 16:52, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
静けさ (talk) 03:57, 25 March 2021 (UTC)静けさ Thank you!
- 静けさ, Sportskeeda is not a reliable source. Please find other news articles / websites that would support his notability. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 17:25, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
Advice regarding Draft:Neos (content management)
Thank you for the review,
i understand the request to fork the Neos article from the TYPO3 article as this is how Neos originally was created. However this was 6 years ago and the TYPO3-Neos section in the TYPO3 Article is completely outdated and misleading nowadays. I see no point in splitting this but can take care of adjusting the Neos part of the TYPO3 Article once a Neos Article is published. How shall i proceed here?
Regarding the sources i could use some advice as much of the original informations is published on neos.io. I added other sources where possible but the primary source is mostly the same. I think this is a problem many open source projects have. Can you give me a hint what kind of sources would help.
Kopfaufholz (talk) 15:03, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
- Kopfaufholz, that's why I suggested updating the TYPO3 article first. If the TYPO3 version is outdated, it can be improved to reflect its history with Neos. It can then have a hatnote to the separate article, but the point is to get agreement first on whether a separate Neos article is even needed, hence the split request. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 15:15, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
Thank you I now requested a split on the TYPO3 Article. As you suggested. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kopfaufholz (talk • contribs) 15:58, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
Request on 04:06:52, 27 March 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Lauracoover
- Lauracoover (talk · contribs)
Thank you for reviewing my article submission for Vanishing Angle. I believe I have edited the page to suit Wikipedia requirements. The information provided is objective, and cited by sources providing meaningful coverage of the company. Please let me know if there are any additional changes you can suggest to improve the article. Lauracoover (talk) 04:06, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
Hello AngusWOOF, please excuse me if it is not customary to do so, but I wanted to check back with you about these edits. If the page is still not up to standards, your feedback and guidance would be greatly appreciated.
Kind regards, Lauracoover (talk) 15:49, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
Lauracoover (talk) 04:06, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- Lauracoover, can you list which secondary source references cover the company in detail? AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 16:10, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
Yes, I have cited the Moveable Feast article: http://moveablefest.com/vanishing-angle/ Thank you again for your feedback. Lauracoover (talk) 16:20, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- Lauracoover, that seems like a random website/blog. Are there others? They need to be unrelated to the subject (not connected production companies, not film festivals that featured the film). AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 17:18, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
Hi AngusWOOF, I understand your concern. I do want to point out that The Moveable Fest (moveablefest.com) was established in 2011 and has published thousands of reviews, interviews, and articles since. Editor in chief Stephen Saito is an L.A.-based writer whose work has been published in The L.A. Times, Premiere, and IFC.com. If you have a moment to review the content of the publication, you will see the subjects of the interviews and coverage include world class filmmakers and directors. I believe this source has strong legitimacy. While these articles go into less depth on the history of Vanishing Angle, they may be more legitimizing due to name recognition. Additional sources I could add as citations include: https://www.sundance.org/case-studies/creative-distribution/thunder-road https://deadline.com/2019/06/vanishing-angle-executive-promotion-umc-his-hers-and-the-truth-tilda-del-toro-the-green-room-1202631543/ https://variety.com/2020/film/news/vanishing-angle-jim-cummings-the-beta-test-1234646973/
Thank you again for your time and guidance. Lauracoover (talk) 17:24, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
- Lauracoover, those will help. The case study thing is interesting and could use a paragraph about it. Deadline.com seems to be more a personnel executive announcement. Can you find some more that go into the history of the company and its founding. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 17:35, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
I have expanded this further. Would you like to do another AfC review? --Kailash29792 (talk) 15:49, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- Never mind. I moved it myself. Kailash29792 (talk) 04:49, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
- Kailash29792, the notability for this actor is borderline for WP:ENT. The lead paragraph should describe her most prominent / starring roles in major productions, but if you have detailed newspaper and magazine coverage of the person then that should keep it from going to AFD. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 16:13, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
Yes, and now the article has at least 20 sources. I'm still keeping a lookout for more third party coverage and interviews of her. A lot is expected to come in the coming weeks since she has joined The CW's Batwoman but has not yet appeared onscreen. Kailash29792 (talk) 16:16, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
You are right, ZooPhobia isn't notable, yet...
I'm referring to your edits on the Cristina Vee filmography page. Perhaps I was too hasty to add it now, but... I thought it might be justified as I have a page in progress for the comic itself if you'd like to look at that and give some comments on it. --Historyday01 (talk) 01:14, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
Draft:The Dust Coda
Hi AngusWOOF,
Hope you're OK! Thank you for reviewing the Draft page for The Dust Coda on 21 October 2020 ([1]).
Today, The Dust Coda's second album entered the Official Albums Chart Update at #11[2][3], so I have now updated the page with this info and it now aligns with your comment for proving the band's notability ("Please indicate how this band meets WP:NMUSIC with charting.")
If you catch the time, could you please review the page once more and see if it is worthy of being published? Thank you very much for your time. SunGarden12 (talk) 17:19, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
- SunGarden12, yup, that's good. Group meets WP:MUSICBIO for album charting on OCC. I've pushed it through. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 17:32, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Draft:The Dust Coda". Wikipedia. Retrieved March 29, 2021.
- ^ White, Jack. "Ben Howard aiming for second UK Number 1 album with Collections From The Whiteout". Official Charts. Retrieved March 29, 2021.
- ^ "Official Albums Chart Update Top 100". Official Charts. Retrieved March 29, 2021.
- SunGarden12, see Ss112's note below regarding the charting. Midweek charting is temporary so it isn't final, so I changed the wording to "projected" and this will have to be corrected in 2 days when the final charting releases. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 20:57, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
- AngusWOOF Thank you very much for your help! I'll be sure to update the page with the final charting once released, thank you. SunGarden12 (talk) 10:54, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
The midweek UK Albums Chart is not the final one
Hi Angus. Just letting you know that you added the midweek UK Albums Chart, not the final one, to OK Orchestra. Most likely, by the end of the week, AJR's album will be lower. I've seen albums debut at 55 on the midweeks and be off the final chart. We don't normally list these in charts sections, and if they ever have been listed in charts sections, they're replaced at the end of the week. That being said, you used a date from 2019 for the chart. Ss112 18:39, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
- Ss112, okay we can change it to TBD. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 20:47, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
- I've changed it to a commercial performance section, because what you've described is not done on album articles at all. "TBA" for an expectation of a chart position violates WP:CRYSTAL as far as I can tell, because as I explained to you, there is no guarantee of a chart position by the end of the week. We don't list dashes for an absence of a chart position on album articles; we just leave that country out. As I said in my revert summary, it's predictive nonsense that really doesn't tell us anything yet. Please leave the table out until we have a concrete chart position per CRYSTAL and as I've reverted you, WP:BRD. Thanks. Ss112 01:54, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
- Ss112, when would it make sense to put in the chart then with a TBA? If other articles indicate it will chart in the top 10 or 5 as with some of these other albums that can come out on OCC? Made in the Pyrex had several OCC articles saying it would chart in the top 5, and it ended up charting at No. 3. Revelacion was also going to chart for sure as highly anticipated. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 01:59, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
- I'm not saying a lot of albums don't stay on track after the midweek chart to enter the final chart where they were on the midweek, but even in those cases, adding a whole wikitable to tell us that the album is on track but its final position is currently unknown (or "TBA") is pointless. It's just that a lot of albums that are quite low as to only be at 55 by the middle of the week can (not necessarily will) slip even further when it's quite possible other albums will exceed it in the latter half of the week. I think an explanation of where it is midweek in prose suffices; only final week positions should be in the table and there's no point providing one as a placeholder until then when interested editors add one very easily when the time comes. Ss112 03:11, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
- Ss112, this needs to be brought to attention somewhere on WP:CHARTS that OCC and perhaps other sites may post temporary midweek charts like status for all-star balloting in sports or idol competitions. By jumping to that page, there is no obvious indication that the chart shown is temporary and dynamic. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 15:29, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
- I'm not quite sure what you're referring to. It's made clear these are midweek charts or not final. The OCC archives their midweek charts using the same date format as all their other charts, so they're not gone forever (if that's what you mean by temporary)—for example, here's last week's midweek "update" chart. It says in the header on the web page that it's the "Albums Chart Update". I maybe get if somebody were not very informed that they think "update" is just the word the OCC uses to refer to their final albums chart, but even then, the smaller text below it explains "The UK's Top 100 official biggest-selling artist albums of midweek". The OCC also makes sure to use language in their accompanying articles that indicate the midweek results are not final—"aiming to", "on track", "challenging for number 1" etc. Ss112 22:45, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
- Ss112, this needs to be brought to attention somewhere on WP:CHARTS that OCC and perhaps other sites may post temporary midweek charts like status for all-star balloting in sports or idol competitions. By jumping to that page, there is no obvious indication that the chart shown is temporary and dynamic. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 15:29, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
- I'm not saying a lot of albums don't stay on track after the midweek chart to enter the final chart where they were on the midweek, but even in those cases, adding a whole wikitable to tell us that the album is on track but its final position is currently unknown (or "TBA") is pointless. It's just that a lot of albums that are quite low as to only be at 55 by the middle of the week can (not necessarily will) slip even further when it's quite possible other albums will exceed it in the latter half of the week. I think an explanation of where it is midweek in prose suffices; only final week positions should be in the table and there's no point providing one as a placeholder until then when interested editors add one very easily when the time comes. Ss112 03:11, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
Request on 14:53:20, 31 March 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Lefton4ya
On Draft:Nebula_(streaming_service) rejection: "Needs more than just Tubefilter"
I realize there are 4 sources from TubeFilter, but also has one recent one from BBC. Would removing some of the TubeFilter sources help? Sadly this company is bigger in subscribers and recognition than many streaming services, just has little press around it, so WP:Notability standards may be hard.
Lefton4ya (talk) 14:53, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
- Lefton4ya, do they give significant coverage on the subject? It seemed like James Hale was writing most of the Nebula coverage. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 15:22, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
- Lefton4ya, he might have conflict of interest. See https://sec.report/Document/0000899243-20-016411/ Actually that could be another James Hale and the company he is part of is a Nebula acquisition group. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 23:34, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
From what I gather from /r/WatchNebula TubeFilter just seems to like what Nebula is doing and has a good repour with Dave Wiskus the CEO of Nebula so they send TubeFilter thier press blurbs and TubeFilter actually follows up with them. Does not seem like any paid relationship or conflict of interest but maybe just favoritism because they get along (the same can be said of media reporters at many press outlets having a favorite director/writer/studio/website etc they have professional repour with). The BBC article, however is very notable and significant coverage to satisfy WP:Notability IMHO, but is just once source. Lefton4ya (talk) 21:39, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
Draft: X-teens
Hello,
Thank you for the prompt and helpful review. Regarding the band's notability, CMJ New Music Report was in fact the national chart for College Rock in the 1980's. As noted in the article, X-teens was in CMJ's top 100 for both Progressive Radio and College Radio in 1984. This would seem to satisfy criteria #2 in Criteria for musicians and ensembles. In addition, the numerous "non-trivial" published works noted under Critical Reviews and Charts would seem to satisfy criteria #1.
Nedrum (talk) 19:12, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Nedrum, CMJ isn't a recognized national chart on WP:CHARTS. College newspaper/magazine reviews don't count towards notability. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 19:19, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
Angus, numerous nationally published reviews in notable (non-college and non-local) magazines are listed. Nedrum (talk) 19:55, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
In addition, the music video Change Gotta Come was put in rotation on MTV, as reported in Billboard's "Video Music Programming, MTV Adds & Rotation" section, as referenced in the article. This meets criteria #11. Nedrum (talk) 22:30, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Nedrum, please indicate that in the comments section of the article or the talk page so that other AFC reviewers can see it. Also you might want to ask Bkissin to review the article as it was considered close to being ready. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 23:42, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
Thanks For Being Vigilant
The Draft:Nengi is probably the seventh iteration now. Prior this current iteration, there was Draft:Rebecca Nengi Hampson, created by Justice Faith (they weren’t pinged) and prior that, there was this. There was also a time the draft article was G11 speedy deleted. Of course there are so many of such which have thus far been created by SPA's & I can’t remember them all. There even could be more than seven iterations if I dedicate time to unearth them all. At some point the title and its variations would have to be salted. Celestina007 (talk) 11:17, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- Celestina007, I merged three other draft pages to this one. Hopefully they can clean these up. Is she notable from the beauty pageant wins? I don't see much beyond the appearance on the Big Brother show. Was there a MFD or AFD involved? AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 14:24, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- There could have been an AFD involved but i really can’t remember, what I do remember is the draft article declined severally at AFC. About her notability status, she definitely isn’t notable, asides the big brother, there isn’t any other significant thing, the beauty pageant is negligible at best. Her case is very much similar to & mirrors that of Draft:Erica Nlewedim who both have their claim to notability chiefly as having participated in the Big brother reality Tv show and their inconsequential participation in beauty pageants, and winning non notable paid for awards. Tbh, anybody experienced Nigerian editor creating articles on both subjects are engaging in undisclosed paid editing. Celestina007 (talk) 15:08, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
Request on 23:35:24, 2 April 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Jidenne
Hello, thank you for reviewing the Draft: Nengi efficiently and quickly. This is my first ever attempt at creating a wiki page, and I obviously am enjoying the learning process. I see that you are still editing it. Please, do you think the work is good enough for resubmission now? If you have any suggestions to help me improve the page further, please do not hesitate to highlight them. Thanks for your time. Jidenne (talk) 23:35, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker), @Jidenne, the subject of your draft is on a non notable subject that is known chiefly for only ONEEVENT and clearly does not satisfy WP:GNG, thus, you waste valuable time in further trying to edit the article. In your honest opinion, which notability criteria do you think the subject of your article satisfies? Celestina007 (talk) 23:57, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- Hello @celestina007, thanks for the feedback. I had thought she would qualify for a page given her achievements post-bbn. Becoming SSA to Bayelsa State Government at 22, appearing as the lead star in Davido’s jowo music video and getting recognised for the role in international media outlets like The Fader, Revolt etc; Becoming the face of notable brands like Guinness and Itel mobile. But since these aren’t notable enough, I guess I would have to look for another subject to write on. I can come back to this when she’s deemed worthy of a page. Thanks once again. Jidenne (talk) 10:46, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Jidenne, Becoming SSA to Bayelsa State Government at 22, that appointment is one that does next to nothing to establish notability for her. appearing as the lead star in Davido’s jowo music video, I’m not what you mean/meant by “lede star” however what she was in that video, was a video vixen & being a video vixen in any music video of any given artist doesn’t establish notability for the subject. Becoming the face of notable brands like Guinness and Itel mobile, endorsements deals do nothing for notability, so yes as you correctly put it, these aren’t enough indeed. Speaking freely, do not mistake popularity/fame for notability, although erroneously used interchangeably they aren’t one and the same. Celestina007 (talk) 12:45, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
- Hello @celestina007, thanks for the feedback. I had thought she would qualify for a page given her achievements post-bbn. Becoming SSA to Bayelsa State Government at 22, appearing as the lead star in Davido’s jowo music video and getting recognised for the role in international media outlets like The Fader, Revolt etc; Becoming the face of notable brands like Guinness and Itel mobile. But since these aren’t notable enough, I guess I would have to look for another subject to write on. I can come back to this when she’s deemed worthy of a page. Thanks once again. Jidenne (talk) 10:46, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
- Jidenne, this is comparable to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Symply Tacha who also only appeared in a reality show for a season and didn't win it. Starring in some random music videos doesn't make her notable unless those videos were the breakout role for her career. She would only be considered a video vixen if most news articles describe her as such as her occupation. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 15:36, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for your help @AngusW🐶🐶F @celestina007. How long before the draft is deleted? I hope I can come back to update it when she a notable break away from the bbn tag. By the way, I appreciate the attempt at distinction between fame and notability. It makes perfect sense. I started another one on Stan Nze, I do hope that would scale through. Jidenne (talk) 17:01, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
- Jidenne, if there's no activity for 6 months, it is subject to deletion but can be recovered. Hopefully others don't keep resubmitting the draft though, since that would annoy AFC reviewers and have it nominated for deletion (MFD process) sooner. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 17:48, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
- Jidenne, you may want to look at celebs like Divya Agarwal where she initially didn't have enough notability as a runner-up on one of the reality television shows, but then won a later contest. She then co-hosted on a number of reality television shows. She also starred or was featured in a number of music videos and was a former beauty pageant winner, but those by themselves weren't that notable prior to the reality show win. Also, there's Olivia Rodrigo who initially had just one starring role on her first show (Bizaardvark), and didn't get a page here until she starred in the second one (High School Musical TV series). Now she's gotten a number one hit and a ton of notability. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 17:52, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Jidenne, what AngusWOOF told you is spot on! especially with the Symply Tacha example they gave you. In time if she(Nengi) attains true notability an article on her would be retained on mainspace, she is currently having the same problem Draft: Erica Nlewedim has, both are famous for an event they didn’t win, famous? yes! notable? not in the very least! An example you may be able to relate to is Bisola Aiyeola, she didn’t win the show or become notable until several years past but eventually she attained notability through her career as an actress. As for the new article you want to create, my honest opinion is I don’t think it would pass our notability test for actors nor our general notability test. The easiest way to know if someone is notable or not is by performing a google search on the person and if you can’t find reliable media discussing the person then chances are the individual isn’t notable just yet. I created this as a rough guide for New page reviewers and Nigerian editors, it may be of help to you. Article creation is not necessarily difficult but it isn’t easy also most especially for new editors, to save you the hell I and most editors here past through during our early stages, my advise to you would be for you to just do more observing and reading, you are barely 8 days old, trust me you have all the time in the world to learn article creation. Have you read WP:YFA? It’s something worth reading over and again if you intend to focus on article creation.Celestina007 (talk) 18:25, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
- Celestina007, that Nigerian sources list looks promising! Can you back up some of those sources with links to discussion archives from WP:RSN? Also indicate if they are mainstream newspapers, magazines, websites, blogs. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 18:59, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
- Definitely, i had been thinking of doing just that but unfortunately haven’t got the time to do that in between page reviewing and afc reviewing. Celestina007 (talk) 19:15, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
Conan Changes for names
I'm sorry if I was doing the editing wrong but it really should have the Japanese names for the characters as the links and the main names for the characters. It's a Japanese manga so to use the English translations of the names is just insulting the creator as those are the names they chose. If they have popular names in other languages than, yes, they should be sourced in the wikipedia but the fact that the entire wikipedia implies that Jimmy Kudo (and every English translation of the names) is the original name of the character and not Shin'ichi Kudo is just wrong.