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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Tntad (talk | contribs) at 04:35, 11 April 2021 (Semi-protected edit request on 9 April 2021). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Episode Numbering and Order

Someone rewrote the Season 20 episode numbers and ordering according to the IMDB which uses production date. But this is never how this page ordered them. It should be by air date and how every TV database other than IMDB numbers them. I'm going to revert these changes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.244.29.151 (talk) 20:55, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

...And somebody locked out the page. What dufuses. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.244.29.151 (talk) 20:59, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The correct episode numbering for Season 20 can be found here: https://thetvdb.com/series/mayday/seasons/official/20

Could someone please fix it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.244.29.151 (talk) 23:27, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

thats the incorrect order TVDB is incorrect I repeat increectttt — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:45B2:8001:B8F4:8B29:3A1E:E1E8 (talk) 03:54, 9 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Accident Files Season 4

FYI, season 4 is upon us. 7 episodes listed according to this source: https://www.natgeotv.com/cz/serialy/natgeo/specialni-zprava-o-vysetrovani-leteckeho-nestesti Demrep (talk) 01:18, 2 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Adding episodes before airing discussion. Present your arguments here and back them up.

I guess we'll have this discussion again because of an outdated conservative approach of holding off before putting them up after the first episode shows up. I have not seen any list of show episodes page that has done this. I guess we'll have this discussion again...

I think they should go up before they air (essentially right now). National Geographic is a major network that runs ads for the show. A recent ad [1] in the UK showed Lion Air Flight 610 and Execuflight Flight 1526. The counterargument to this was an Air New Zealand Flight 901 listing despite that it never appeared on National Geographic. Instead, the episode was replaced with Itavia Flight 870. That was an isolated case because National Geographic was not used to cite the existence of the episodes. It was merely a pamphlet of the entire shows run as Season 13 was initially indented to be the final episode of the whole show. So, that argument does not add up. The initial compromise was the strange 7 day gap between the 16th and 17th seasons that was part of their unusual airing schedule at the time. That era has long passed.

1) National Geographic is a reliable source and it is a major network that, you know, airs the episodes on their network.

2) It has a 100% success rate on the episodes

3) Advertisements on the same network provide clips from the episodes themselves, because that's what an advertisement of a show does.

I don't see any reason to continue with this nonsensical approach of holding back. Thanks. Tntad (talk) 23:16, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

EDIT: Update on my post above. Here's the link to the story of Qantas 32 being the original final episode of the entire show [2]. It was written by the Captain Richard de Crespigny, the captain of Qantas Flight 32. Tntad (talk) 23:24, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Bullshit to #2. An episode on Air NZ Flight 901 was announced and never made. It was never made. You even say it above. So saying NatGeo has a 100% success rate does not compute. Overall there has been too much bs on this page. Read this[3]....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 23:26, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The "It" refers to the website, National Geographic. Could you point to me where National Geographic, not Cineflix, National Geographic, announced Air New Zealand Flight 901 for the 13th season of the show? That "mythical episodes" post also does not reference National Geographic as a source. Plus that post is obviously not reliable since there are no citations. That post is completely irrelevant to the whole matter on a citation perspective. Tntad (talk) 23:29, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Update: The Air New Zealand case was also never listed on the National Geographic websites under Season 13 at any point, even using the Wayback Machine too. Regardless of where it was announced initially, it never made it to the final listings page. Also, claiming "everything is bs" does not help your case. Tntad (talk) 23:33, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The Lion Air episode aired on Nat Geo UK yesterday, and the Loganair one aired in Finland, just in a different order. Please can you give me a specific reason why we should wait until the day they air? BalanceTheBooks (talk) 10:50, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Read my reply a little bit above. This article has had a long history of bullshit and wrong information. I never removed LoganAir because that one aired....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 10:54, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
But the Lion Air episode aired on in the UK yesterday. I'm sick of people who lack common sense. Anyone else what to present your ideas again? Tntad, etc. BalanceTheBooks (talk) 10:59, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Can I at least add the Lion Air episode back on because it aired in the UK on 5 April? Nat Geo UK is reliable and we can add airdates based on that website, too. BalanceTheBooks (talk) 11:18, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
William, your reply above does nothing to validate your claim. None of the examples you mentioned ever referred to National Geographic as a source. Also, the Air New Zealand scapegoat you use also never appeared on National Geographic. We're talking about it being listed on National Geographic. I'll ask again, can you point to me where ANZ901 appeared on National Geographic? I was there, like you, and it never appeared there. Tntad (talk) 16:04, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Tntad. We should focus on Nat Geo, not Cineflix. AZ901 never appeared on Nat Geo. William is focusing too much on Cineflix. Honest to God, we are getting tired of this. BalanceTheBooks (talk) 16:18, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 9 April 2021

Please change

On 15 December 2014, Loganair Flight 6780 starts an uncontrolled descent while on approach to Sumburgh Airport in Scotland. The pilots regain control and make an emergency landing at Aberdeen, with no fatalities. A lightning strike had disabled the aircraft's elevator controls.

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On 15 December 2014, Loganair Flight 6780 enters an uncontrolled descent near Sumburgh Airport in Scotland. The pilots regain control and make an emergency landing back at Aberdeen, with no fatalities. After a lightning strike the crew wrongly assumed the autopilot was disengaged and tried to climb, the conflict causing the autopilot to set the elevator controls into a dive. 118.209.243.33 (talk) 16:08, 9 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't have to be excessively detailed. It's fine the way it is. BalanceTheBooks (talk) 16:27, 9 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
It's not fine the way it is, it is wrong. The elevator controls were not disabled, the plane was perfectly fine, it was a crew error.
You are correct. The initial description of lightning disabling elevators was incorrect. Fixed it after rewatching the episode. Tntad (talk) 04:35, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]