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The map that shows "Proto Greek areas" and "Proto Macedonian" areas should be remover 1) The Greeks were in far more areas, it has been revealed archaeologically and genetically 2) The term Pelasgian is used, the Pelasgian identity has not been determined and it is generally used by various Balkanic nationalists 3) Why the Macedonian area is not part of the Greek area ? Do you want to support Skopje nationalism ? Historyandsciencelearn (talk) 16:52, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There are no sources in your argument. Furthermore, be advised that making assumptions about other editors' motives violate WP:NPA and in area under ARBCOM restrictions such as this one, that kind of behaviour quickly leads to blocks. The map is sourced; yes, the source is old and if more modern scholarship contradicts it tje map should be removed. The onus for making that case is on anyone wanting to remove the map. Jeppiz (talk) 18:46, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The map of Vladimir I. Georgiev should stay. Geogiev was a prominent linguist - honorary Doctor of Humboldt University in Berlin (1960) and Charles University in Prague (1968). Corresponding Member of the French Academy of Sciences (1967), the Finnish Academy of Sciences (1966), Saxon Academy of Sciences in Leipzig (1968), the Belgian Academy of Sciences (1971) and the Athens Academy of Sciences (1977). Jingiby (talk) 18:55, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In fact, the source has been falsified. Pages 47-48 and Map 2 (which is on page 147) do not correspond to the claim made by the uploader, see more in: https://archive.org/details/georgievintroductiontothehistoryoftheindoeuropeanlanguages1981/page/n149/mode/2up?q=Map+2. I have nominated the file for deletion. Macedonian (talk) 19:25, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, the source is falsified and should be removed. For example, the dotted line in the map, which corresponds to the irredentist concept of United Macedonia, is nowhere to be found in the source. But it is included in the map to "show" that proto-macedonian is "native" to "united macedonia". Khirurg (talk) 20:05, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]