Wikipedia:Media copyright questions/Archive/2021/April

Bot keeps removing image

Hi, a bot keeps removing this image File:Football Association of Bosnia and Herzegovina logo.svg from the Bosnia and Herzegovina national football team page. It claims "No valid non-free use rationale for this page" but when I click on the file description page for the image, the non free use rationale is included. Please help.Bosniantennis (talk) 04:12, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

EDIT: sorry, I believe I just figured it out by reading a previous response, each article needs its own non free use rationale included. Bosniantennis (talk) 04:14, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Image of a sculpture for article bout court case regarding it

United States v. One Solid Gold Object in Form of a Rooster is about a court case about a non-free sculpture. Would a picture of that sculpture be fair-use. There's no free equivalent, and various attributes unique to this specific object were involved in the case, including appearance and siting. I'm not sure how well pure prose captures it. However, it's the case not the object that is the article topic. DMacks (talk) 20:44, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Yes, it would be reasonable. From a non-free standpoint, its not that the image has to be about the topic, but relevant to the sourced text in that article. So while that article is about the court case, the discussion of the sculpture in depth prior to the case itself (and presuming not discussed anywhere else on WP) would make it reasonable to have non-free image of it. --Masem (t) 20:48, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick response! DMacks (talk) 20:52, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Government maps of Sindh villages: are these allowed?

See here: [1]

I checked both Wikimedia's summary of Pakistan's copyright law for government works, as well as the site where I found these maps, and I'm still confused. I don't see any claim of copyright anywhere on the site, but it may be implied (I'm not sure how copyright law in Pakistan works). Would uploading any of these images to Wikimedia be a copyright violation?

Thanks,

3 kids in a trenchcoat (talk) 07:01, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Currently copyright applies even if not claimed with words. https://www.openstreetmap.org is also a place to look for suitable maps to use here. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:05, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Image copyright questions

Hi - I'm a bit wooly about some of the finer details of copyrights with regards to imagery, hoping for a bit of advice from an expert. Please see this image, which is a part of the collection described here. The image dates to circa 1900, but the Canmore website asserts copyright - I'm assuming that we can't use it, but wondering whether pd-US-unpublished might apply? Assuming that we can't use it, what are the rules about creating an image in some sort of drawing package that essentially reproduces it - would that be a prohibited derivative work, would there be any fair use defense? Thanks in advance. GirthSummit _(blether) 10:08, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Updating Maps

These pages have many issues including an out of date map.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tahoua_Department https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tahoua_Region

If you look at the 2013 reorganization, Tahoua is defined as a region with now 11 départements. You can see an accurate map here. https://reliefweb.int/sites/reliefweb.int/files/resources/ner_tahoua_factsheet_avril-juin_2020.pdf

But how do i find a map that would not be under copyright to correct the current out-of-date map. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Minimosher (talk • contribs) 10:51, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Upload a profile picture of a living person

Hello, I recently created a new article with the title "Chris Mould (illustrator)". I found a profile picture which the illustrator uploaded himself on his official Twitter. Can I use it or what do I need to do to remove the copyright tags in my picture information? Thanks for your help.

Marchrain13 This would not be permitted - the illustrator has uploaded it to his Twitter channel, but he presumably didn't simultaneously release it for use elsewhere. You need a picture which the photographer has explicitly made available under a suitable licence. GirthSummit _(blether) 14:23, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

Template:Backwards copy

There's a discussion about the be or not be of a Template:Backwards copy on Talk:Christian ethics at Talk:Christian_ethics#Suspect_backwards-copy, if you have an opinion. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:13, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

Removing image from national team page due to WP:NFC#UUI#17

Hi, I'd like some clarification on this please. An editor is removing the free use rationale for the image associated with the Bosnian national team due to WP:NFC#UUI#17 . The crest, which is for the governing body of football in the country, is also emblazoned on the jerseys of national teams and is it's de facto branding. This is true of many national team pages, for example Serbia national football team, which has not been removed. However, an editor is removing Bosnia and Herzegovina national football team image based on this rationale. Any kind of clarification would be good thanks.Bosniantennis (talk) 18:15, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

This has been a problem with NFCUUI for as long as I remember. It cannot answer the question: if a child entity shares branding with its parent entity, does is lack its own branding? – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 22:46, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

What we generally want to avoid under NFCC and with NFC#UUI#17 is the re-use of the same logo across multiple team pages when none of them have a unique logo compared to the organization they are under. The example would be at many university sports program which would share the same logo/mascot/branding for all of its teams - even if the teams are independently notable, reusing that logo over and over again would violate the principle of NFCC. That said, the cases here appear to be the reuse of the logo exactly once on the national team, in additional to the agency overseeing the sport for the country. Assuming that it is unlikely any of the other national teams for that agency will be notable, the exactly one duplication of the logo is reasonable, but any more would become a problem. (eg if there was a youth team that was highlighted and having the same logo). Again, we're trying to minimize non-free here so NFC#UUI#17 is aimed for cases where clear overuse can happen. One duplication is not excessive overuse, but any more could be. --Masem (t) 00:01, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

Except that we have plenty of cases like File:Hammarby IF logo.svg, where the logo is used on every subsidiary team of the overarching organization. Removing these has, in the past, been impossible as edit warriors keep fighting them back in. --Hammersoft (talk) 20:17, 7 April 2021 (UTC)