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Gordon Brown or Alistair Darling?

According to the Reuters and BBC references listed at Talk:Chief_Mouser_to_the_Cabinet_Office, Gordon Brown is now living at 11 Downing Street, and Alistair Darling at 10 Downing Street, but this article disagrees. Could someone with some actual knowledge of British government residences (or at least a better grasp of what sources are reliable in this area) please check on this and correct whichever articles need correcting? John Darrow (talk) 04:50, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

He is still in number 11, according to people who work there —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.160.97.55 (talk) 14:15, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Merger proposal

Request received to merge articles: Cash for curtains disputed allegations into 11 Downing Street; dated: May 2021. Proposer's Rationale: Small amount of readable prose, could be reduced down to a paragraph or two on a dedicated section on the target page. Discuss here. SɱαɾƚყPαɳƚʂ22 (Ⓣⓐⓛⓚ) 22:31, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete there's not enough weight currently to support inclusion of this unsubstantiated accusation in this article, let alone to support a stand-alone article covering it. -- DeFacto (talk). 23:06, 1 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The refurbishment definitely occurred, that is undisputed by every media source. The refurbishment cost in excess of £80,000, that is undisputed by every media source. The Prime Ministers allowance is £30,000 which is a matter of public record. The £58,000 shortfall is clear. The £58,000 donation by Lord Brownslow is a matter of public record. The Electoral Commission inquiry is ongoing. User DeFacto doesn't know the outcome yet, regardless of his political opinions. He can't keep trimming the article, and reverting all edits and merging to make it go away.
  • Keep Independently notable. ~ HAL333 04:04, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"Defacto" User Edits

The User Defacto clearly doesn't want any reference to the current "cash for curtains" investigation. The user removes citations, then claims there is no evidence for the use of the term. The £88000 financing of the refurbishment of 11 Downing Street is in the public interest, regardless of political leanings. Can anyone else offer any support for a neutral pov here?

@167.98.181.52: this is the edit I made, and that sentence ("known in the press as the Cash-for-Curtains scandal") was not in any of the sources you cited, full-stop, so I removed it. Per WP:VER you need sources saying that that's what it's known as by the press, if it's just your opinion of what the press says it fails WP:OR. Please don't misrepresent my actions. -- DeFacto (talk). 15:36, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@167.98.181.52: I see you've added that sentence back again with 7 references this time. Can you please tell us which of the 7 supports the sentence, and perhaps remove the ones that don't per WP:OVERCITE. -- DeFacto (talk). 15:49, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, after you pressed undo how many times saying unsuported, without seeing that citations all had the words 'cash for curtains scandal' in their title or body? I'll work on the article some more later today.