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Nietzsche in early lyrics
I was wondering, how come no one even mentions the influence of Nietzsche on his early lyrics? I'd like to know a little more about it, and the references in the lyrics are so many and so obvious that i'm surprised the topic isn't covered. 81.39.169.176 18:55, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
Sketches belong on fridges, not in encyclopedias
Cute drawing of Bowie up there. However, it's a sketch after all, and whoever drew it should send it into their local community college, not post it in an encyclopedia. There are many non-copywritten photos out there; a sketch is an abstraction of a photo, and thus artistic, not factual. Stop putting it up there.
Jackmont, Dec 17, 2006 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 154.20.13.41 (talk) 09:30, 17 December 2006 (UTC).
I agree. A photograph should be added and the drawing should definitely be removed.
Nature Boy
Bowie sings two versions of the song 'Nature Boy' on the Moulin Rouge soundtrack, one with Massive Attack. Beck sings Bowie's 'Diamond Dogs'.
Personal Life
Shouldn't there be a section listed with just only his personal life stuff, such as early life, marital & parental status, etc.?
:::there WAS a section about his personal life, i could SWEAR! it talks about his first marriage & his son, and then his subsequent marriage to Iman. WHAT THE HECK HAPPENED TO THAT SECTION?!? or did i just get lost in the lengthy & wordy paragraphs?!?
--HatchetFaceBuick 19:19, 26 December 2006 (UTC):::
Picture
I'm sorry, but am I the only one that thinks that the picture currently in the article is one of the most inappropriate/uninformative that could possibly have been used? 66.229.182.113 03:52, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
- My guess is that the image is one of the few available that are not protected by copyright. If you know of a better image in the public domain or if you have a photo you took yourself and you are willing to give up your copyrights, then you should let us know about it. Bowie's persona is certainly stronger and brighter than the image we now have, but I think we're pretty much stuck with it. Ande B 20:55, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
- I wouldn't be surprised if there were pictures we could use - a lot of people have taken photos at his concerts, perhaps we should email some fansites for permission? It might even be wise to drop a line to Total Blam Blam at Bowienet. Mikeguy
- The sketch of Bowie looks tacky and extremely obsessed-fan-esque.
Jackmont, Dec 17, 2006. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 154.20.13.41 (talk) 09:22, 17 December 2006 (UTC).
- I think it's fine. You can't deny the drawing is accurate, and even recent. And you certainly wouldn't mind, I assume you don't, a drawing or painting of someone dead before the invention of photography. At least you wouldn't call that inappropriate. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.39.169.176 (talk) 20:15, 21 December 2006 (UTC).
I think the sketch is perfect for this article as it shows Bowie clearly without overemphisizing any of his various phases. However it appears to be a tracing of this image, with only minor alterations. This would mean it is not under the GNU license. Correct? Tlsg 18:07, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
Birthplace
The writer has been led to believe that David Bowie was actually born in Doncaster Royal Infirmary; although there is no suggestion that, at the time, his parents were permanently resident anywhere other than the London address given. Of course this may be some sort of mythology created by his Doncaster fans (there is no reason known that Mr. Jones (senior) might have wanted David to play cricket for Yorkshire), but there is no firm evidence cited to the contrary. As David is still alive; and members of his family may possibly still be alive, is there anyone with any firm proof as to where Bowie was born?
David Bowie is a being from another planet. his people developed interstellar travel by the time most of the people reading this were simply tubesock fodder. they are a peaceful consciousness. that is all i know, because i am engaged to a half-interstellar being. she is lovely and she doesn't bullshit.
Ah! that explains it! They called in at Donny on their way to London, and caught the inter-city (or whatever the steam trains were called).
Headline text
The photo with the legend "performing Rebel Rebel" seems earlier. I seem to remember him performing it on TOTP with footage from the American TV programme Soul Train. He was in a blue suit, blue earth shoes and slicked-back yellow-orange hair. Remember, this was even after Philly Dogs when he had abandoned the Ziggy hair. This photo seems to be Pin-Ups period.
--- User:Jigsawpuzzleman 13 July 2005
Oh, believe me, he has performed Rebel Rebel MANY times. There is a famous music video where he appeared on a promo spot in 1974 on VH1, where he came out wearing this new outfit... adding an eyepatch and psuedo-pirate getup to the Ziggy hair that he was still wearing. On the spot, they played the recording and he lipsynched. The episode of soul train would probably have been in late 1975, when he'd already gone on and released Young Americans.
What I AM concerned about is this explosion of photos. They seem a little excessive and poorly placed.
--- User:Mikeguy 4 September 2005
I stand corrected. Mind you, it's far from being his greatest composition in my opinion.
Jigsawpuzzleman 20:44, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
I've changed the caption on the 1973 pic. Shots with the sun symbol on his forehead are from the 1973 Aladdin Sane tour, so it seems incorrect to call the character Ziggy Stardust.
BTLizard 14:16, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
This page is getting very long. This is arising from the as yet incomplete description of the albums. Wouldn't be better to put such descriptions on separate pages linked from the main page?
Should the Chart information (such as Billboard) be on a separate page too?
In the current format it is difficult to update the album list. A new album Reality has been released this month.
--- User:Karl Palmen 29 Sept 2003
- I agree. The information on each album should be located at a page on those albums, not here. The Billboard information for Bowie's career I had added a while back to see how it looks on the one page. I have mixed opinions on that, and wouldn't mind it being moved to something like David Bowie's chart positions. Tuf-Kat 13:23, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)
- I've been thinking that for a while (especially with the discography between two bits of actual text.) I'm tempted to move it to David Bowie discography. In fact, I think I will be bold... User:GWO
Today, living in New York with his second wife, Iman and their daughter, Bowie remains a dynamic, ever-changing artist.
I (reluctantly) changed that despite seeing him at the Garden last night. It's probably true, but it's POV. Also, there's the wrong number of commas.
Incidentally, does anyone know the daughter's name? --Charles A. L. 18:22, Dec 16, 2003 (UTC)
- Her name is Alexandria. --Roo72 00:16, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)
Uh.. I did that Eno correction a while back. The reason for that was that Eno was just a musician, not a producer or a principal songwriter for the Berlin trilogy albums. Evidence: http://pitchforkmedia.com/top/70s/index10.shtml (see the last review on the page, of Bowie's "Low") and http://www.tonyvisconti.com/news/june04.htm (producer Tony Visconti quotes Pitchforkmedia and doesn't seem to disagree.. I'd think there would be a reaction?). The phrase 'collaborated with Brian Eno', in my eyes, helps spreading the false rumour that Eno produced those records. I'm not sure on how to correct this. - Jashiin
- Collarobated means "worked together" and work together they did. Check any biography of BOwie or Eno. It's not a "rumour".
- I'm not trying to say they didn't work together. I'm trying to say that a rumor exists that Eno produced those records, and it is not true. Bowie worked with a LOT of people on those albums, Eno was just one of those people, just another musician. Eno is famous, yes, so what? Visconti is a famous producer as well, known for T.Rex releases for instance. Or Alomar, who played guitar on Low, he's pretty well-known too. What about them? In my eyes, there is no reason to single Eno out when speaking about Low or Heroes.. - Jashiin
- I don't know what rumors you are talking about but the article on Wiki does not say that Eno produced his albums, just that he worked with Bowie. He should be singled out however because he did have a huge influence on Bowie and those albums - again, ready any biography on those two guys.--Roo72 12:36, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- Ok, this is what I wanted to hear, reasons for singling Eno out. Case closed :) - Jashiin
- Well, "Heroes" is credited to Bowie/Eno, as are "Warszawa", "Art Decade" "Neuköln" from the Low period. That sounds like collaboration to me. Secondly, Visconti had been Bowie's producer for years, so its not interesting that he's still working with him. Thirdly, Bowie's said at length how Eno's working methods heavily influenced those albums and anyone with ears can hear Eno's influence all over those records. Fifthly, here's a Bowie webchat on that issue http://www.bowiewonderworld.com/chats/dbchattvmrdb1298.htm :
- Question: do you regret the fact that a lot of people think Eno produced "Low", "Heroes" and "Lodger"?
- Tony Visconti: Brian is a great musician, and was very integral to the making of those three albums. -- GWO
- Well, that clears it up.. There's that rumour I've been talking about, too. Thanks :) - Jashiin
- Well, "Heroes" is credited to Bowie/Eno, as are "Warszawa", "Art Decade" "Neuköln" from the Low period. That sounds like collaboration to me. Secondly, Visconti had been Bowie's producer for years, so its not interesting that he's still working with him. Thirdly, Bowie's said at length how Eno's working methods heavily influenced those albums and anyone with ears can hear Eno's influence all over those records. Fifthly, here's a Bowie webchat on that issue http://www.bowiewonderworld.com/chats/dbchattvmrdb1298.htm :
- Ok, this is what I wanted to hear, reasons for singling Eno out. Case closed :) - Jashiin
List Bowie Albums
Including albums he sang in like Queen's Under Presure. I was very curious about how many albums he's made/contributed to. User Hmoleman00
Surprisingly little on Labyrinth, considering it is a musical and David Bowie features prominantly in the film and album, composing and performing half the tracks on the album along with Trevor Jones. Plus it's Great ;) --BathTub 15:02, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)
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Birthday
"On 9 January 1997, Bowie played a concert at Madison Square Garden to celebrate his 50th birthday (although his birthday was the previous day). Guest performers included Billy Corgan, Frank Black, Sonic Youth, Robert Smith of The Cure, Brian Molko, and Lou Reed whose 1972 album Transformer Bowie co-produced."
The new album
Where are all the rumors coming from? Is the name "Me, Myself and I" confirmed? Sometime ago it was just "TBA" ;) I would be thankful for clarifying :)
- I was the one that added this. I read it in a recent article/interview with DB, but now I can't remember the source. I have not been able to confirm it elsewhere, so maybe it should be left out for now. Stanley Lieber 22:08, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
Incomplete sentence describing "Berlin Trilogy" -anybody able to fix?
I noticed the second paragraph of the "Overview" section currently reads " The so-called "Berlin Trilogy", although receiving mixed commercial success at the time." Needs the rest of the sentence. I'm not sure what it should say or I'd fix it myself. Thanks.--63.201.91.208 00:27, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for pointing this out. Original final part of the sentence ("is seen by many today as masterful and groundbreaking") got lost somewhere along the line these past few weeks. Have partially restored but changed "masterful", which I think was a bit OTT even though I personally agree with the assessment. Cheers, Ian Rose 01:13, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
kissed ronsons guitar?
um, people, that rather famous incident is not best described as "kissing" mick ronsons guitar. how about a little less prudishness and a bit more historical truth?
- i heard he performed 'felatio' to it, but either way... AlexOvShaolin 16:42, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
There is a colour photo of the incident contained in the 636 page book "Alias David Bowie" by Peter and Leni Gillman, ISBN:0-450-41346-8. The comprehensive title was compiled after interviewing over 150 friends, relatives, colleagues, teachers, etc (and even lists the names of all the interviewees), and covers family history from before he was born through to about 1985, and gives quite a bit of insight into David's half-brother Terry and the probable influence David's family and upbringing have had in relation to his writing style. Anyway, that particular photo clearly shows something a little more violent than a humble kiss ...
Heart attack
Corrected the information about Bowie's surgery in July 2004. He has since admitted he had suffered a heart attack, and not just a narrowed artery.
Mass renaming of Singles by artist into Songs by artist
In a recent mass renaming of categories, we renamed nearly every category of Singles by artist into the appropriate subcategory of Songs by artist. We did not immediately rename the few categories in which there was a large number of both singles and non-singles separated, just to make sure there was no absolutely pressing reason that fans of those few acts (the Beach Boys, the Beatles, David Bowie, Nirvana, Oasis, Prince, Radiohead) wanted the singles by artist category kept. So one last chance: Does anyone think that category:David Bowie singles shouldn't be merged into category:David Bowie songs, as all the others except the ones listed have?--Mike Selinker 08:54, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
Toy
Okay, I know I've been a bit picky, and even a tone sarcastic in my measures to prevent its inclusion, but why is Toy being included in the article's discography of released studio albums by David Bowie when it has no confirmed release date or information and there is already sufficient information about the album within the article? I'm sorry, but it seems to go against the idea of a discography to include albums that were not released, have not been promoted as upcoming releases, and (despite the existance of some studio recordings) may not even be in final condition. The songs exist, the sessions occurred, and the project was attempted, but that does not constitute as making the set of songs originally planned for an album release a confirmed album. I suppose it would interest you to know that David Bowie has other unreleased material that was originally planned for an album, such as Tin Machine III or 2. Contamination. Should these albums, with no confirmable release date, be included in the discography because they "might" be released eventually? David Bowie "might" release another album of cover songs, according to interviews; should "Pin-Ups 2" be included in the discography? Bowie seems to enjoy jazz music and says he'd like to make a jazz album someday; should "As-Of-Yet Untitled Jazz Album" be included in the discography? Seriously, when you delve into the world of what David Bowie "might" do, you could probably include thousands of whims and ideas he has come accross and, as a result, pollute the article with enough extra information to turn it into a shopping cart of David Bowie's thoughts, which, though amusing, is completely inappropriate for the situation. If you can show me the confirmation that Toy WILL be released, I will appreciate that immensly. And even if it IS confirmed to be an upcoming release, put it at the bottom of the list so that it is sequentially proper, it isn't like I'll suddenly REMEMBER it was released between Hours and Heathen. Mikeguy 18:29, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
- That was a splendidly-controlled and carefully-argued rant, Mike - and I agree with you 100%...! At best it should perhaps be mentioned in the body of article if it really inspires such interest but the Discography? Nah. Cheers, Ian Rose 00:11, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
- Okay, I'm going to change it and leave a message NOT to include it again and to discuss any discontent with this motion in the talk page. Mikeguy 17:20, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Artificial Eye?
My friend and I just spoke, and she said that Bowie had an artificial eye, yet Wiki says he has heterochromia and can see in his injured eye. Is there any other source that has info on this?
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Check any of the listed sites (especially BBC news), they'll tell you that neither of Bowie's eyes are artificial, although I must remark that the injured eye (which he can see through with faulty depth perception) appears to be artificial due to its permanate dialation.
Well....from what I know and my years of being a big fan lol. Apparently when David Bowie was 14 years old he was punched in the left eye in Highschool by good friend George Underwood during a fight over a girl. He damaged the retina with a large ring he was wearing and after that David spent 8 months in Hospital and his eye sight became permantently impaired. Though I think he can still see through both eyes just not as well (Loyal queen 04:44, 5 November 2006 (UTC)).
Overview
Pardon me, but the overview appears to have been expanded back to its original form when it was still in a seperate "overview" column. I don't mean to be picky, but I think that the original overview was too long to be a standalone summary of David Bowie's career for a Wikipedia header; why not compare it to the Elvis Presley article, or Queen, or The Beatles. These musical acts certainly have much to be said about them, but not in the introduction to the article. The introduction should be much more concise, hence the earlier editing.
Also, the removal of the comment on David Bowie as a "rock chameleon" is unnacceptable. Stating that it is unusable due to status of a "cliché" is absurd; it is a comment which, like it or not, has been applied to Bowie historically enough times to be not only significant, but crucial to an understanding of him altogether.
Remember, this is about creating an informative artical which meets Wikipedia's standards, which is precisely why I haven't simply reverted the edits myself and would like to discuss this. Mikeguy 22:51, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
- Mike, as you've probably gathered from my tweaks but not wholesale rewrite of your recent change to the intro, I'm with you there. The rules for a featured article, if I recall rightly, are three paras in the intro. Also I have serious concerns with some of the purple prose in the latest version which I think were also there before your rejig ("extraordinary", "cleverly", etc). However, agree we wait a little to get other feedback/consensus here before any reversion. Cheers, Ian Rose 23:22, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Bowie does not have an artificial eye...
According to many sources it is believed that the eye inccident occured in his high school years. Most sources say that he was struck in the eye by a friend in a schoolyard fight, over a girl. Some sources say that he has faulty-depth perception in his right eye. Some say that it was a different type of diagnosis, but this reason is most understandable to my knowledge.
Loyal_Queen No, Bowie's eye is definately not artificial yes thats right him and George Underwood had a fight over a girl in highschool and George was wearing a large ring , so when he punched david it left a large damage to the retina and he had to stay in hospital for months.
Bowie Fan
I thought George Underwood had conceded he had poked David in the eye with a jab over a girl of course??? And there is video with him making this admission...
As for the Chameleon thing I'm tired of it, afterall a chameleon blends in so it doesn't do justice to one who is outside of the conventional box.
- I thought it was because he could lick his own eyeball. God, shows what I know.--172.166.19.129 03:11, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
Toy was heard in 2006 by a select group and is described song by song online on a fan site however it is not released to us mere mortals yet ditto for Contamination and the list of unreleased material is staggering having said that unreleased material does not belong in a list of "official releases" aka known as a "discography"
Huge Bowie Fan
Problems
1. The introduction is WAY too long. It also includes blatantly POV and weasely worded statements:-
He is universally recognised as one of the more accomplished and inspired artists in rock and pop.
The relatively short-lived Ziggy persona would epitomise an extraordinary career defined by consistent musical innovation, reinvention and striking visual presentation.
A darling of the music cognoscenti while entertaining an intense and broad fan base, the knowing, indulgent and rather camp Bowie injected rock and pop with a combined glamour, mystique and melancholia uniquely his own.
I think all of these statements are unneccesary.
2. Somebody removed the long list of musical genres and replaced them with rock. Is it just vandalism, or was it agreed upon?
- Currently it says "Rock, Art Rock, Glam Rock and Pop". These are pretty loose catch terms, and ultimately would involve putting "Young Americans" and "Outside" in the same box. There should certainly be Drum and Bass, New Wave, Soul and Electonica on there. But as it is an disputed area, I'll wait for a second opinion before doing anything. NadaPlissken 11:00, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
- Alright, I'm reverting it back to the fine-tuned introduction I wrote after reviewing this blatant piece of POV, please view the above discussion about it. Mikeguy 02:58, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
The "Bowie the Actor" Section
I recently noticed that an edit had been made to add Bowie's career as an actor to each section of his biography... I believe this is a better idea than using a seperate "Bowie the Actor" section, but if so, all the information from that section needs to be dispersed and rearranged through the article. Can we agree that this section should be dispersed into the rest of the biography?Mikeguy 03:05, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
Oz Actor
He's listed as an "Oz Actor", but his IMDB page doesn't mention anything Oz related. Am I missing something?--Agent Aquamarine 23:30, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
- Frank Oz was in Labyrinth????--Philbarker 22:04, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
England?
Country: England doesn't seem quite right, since England is a constituent country of the United Kingdom; surely United Kingdom would be more accurate. Especially since England would not coincide with the List of countries.
Poof? bisexual?
is he really one?!!!
- it has been stated over and over publically a million times. i dont think its been mentioned in recent years tho. AlexOvShaolin 16:41, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
I gathered information that a guy called Calvin Mark Lee(however its slept) was having an affair with Angie and David at the same time (before they became lovers). So yehh we all know David was having sexual relationships with men as well as women. He was experimenting with his sexuality just like he does with drugs and eastern philosophy. Oh and I found out that when Angie and David got married in March 70' that the night before their wedding they celebrated with a threesome....But it doesnt mean he's gay or bisexual, I personally dnt think hes bisexaul just experimental (then in 70's) people can do things like this when they're....high on drugs maybe lol. (Loyal queen 04:59, 5 November 2006 (UTC))
This is really a celebrity anagram note, so it probably doesn't belong here, but since David Bowie's name anagram turns out to have reference to this topic, which has already been started, I am including it here. If anyone wants to include it in the article proper, be my guest! "DAVID BOWIE" = "odd view ... a bi". I personally just think of him as David Bowie - he is unique! ... I saw him through binoculars from the front (and so very close to the stage) at one of his concerts in Sydney in 1978, perfect skin, very beautiful inside and outside ... he smiled at me! It is Eros that matters! Eros!
For other celebrity anagrams: See the George Lucas discussion page (inc. Oliver Reed, George Romero, George Lucas, Luke Skywalker).--Elizabeth Jane 08:20, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
Re; Nirvana comment
Whichever arsehole put in that pointless, snotty aside about Kurt Cobain fouling up the lyrics to The Man Who Sold The World clearly isn't a musician. If you're playing live mistakes happen and you have to keep going it's not a fucking studio recording is it? It's a one shot live performance not some jerk miming on TOTP.
- You're right about the small lyrical change not being a big deal, artists do that all the time during live performances. However, you're still a twat for liking Nirvana.
Hey hey hey! Lets not get all critical with people's musical preferances. But however people who don't like Bowie or say hes a fag or gay...they seriously need mental help I mean to be ranked as the top 10 BEST ARTIST of ALL time and selling over 150 million records...must tell you something lol. (Loyal queen 05:04, 5 November 2006 (UTC))
U.S.-Sales?
How many records did Bowie sell in the U.S.? Especially since the beginning of the Nielsen Soundscan era.
Template
I'm surprised that there isn't a David Bowie template. There are enough studio albums, live albums, films etc.. to warrant one. Any comments? TommyStardust 09:18, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
Anyway, just finished making one. Suggestions for improvement are welcome. TommyStardust 14:41, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
- Hullo Tommy, good on you. Unfortunately whatever template you've used doesn't show up when I view it on Mozilla or IE. Don't have that prob with most templates, e.g. Beatles, Roxy Music, Rolling Stones or Grace Jones so I'm curious as to what you based the Bowie one on. If you don't feel like redoing it with one of them I'm happy to... Also be good for it to be 'David Bowie', not 'David bowie' (pedantic git, aren't I?). Cheers, Ian Rose 12:13, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Random lyrics
Article should mention that Bowie has (apparently) often used randomized lyrics; one songwriting technique he has used is to write out some individual lines he likes, and then randomize their order. He has said that after having used paper and ink for this, someone wrote him a Macintosh program that lets him type them in and then randomize them. It's an interesting window into his work, IMO, if anyone can find a reputable source. Tempshill 19:17, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah I know there is a video showing the composition process. Could it serve as a source? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIC-1IXnmnA Najja 08:08, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
lyrics
i noticed there is an article for a ton of david bowie songs but no lyrics, is it possible to include the lyrics in the articles or is that against wiki policy? AlexOvShaolin 21:35, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
- G'day, Alex, sorry no-one's replied to you till now. Generally lyrics will be copyright so including them in a Wikipedia article will be a violation of that copyright (see WP:COPYVIO). Even providing an external link to lyrics elsewhere on the web is questionable as those sites may themselves be violating copyright. That said, normal fair use rationales apply if you were to quote a line or two to illustrate a point in the song for its article, just as you might fairly quote a short passage from a book in an essay or review (see WP:FAIR). Cheers, Ian Rose 11:23, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Pro Evolution Soccer 6
someone thought it would be a good idea to explain why this game uses the song as its theme in its own section, the information was relocated to the article Under Pressure. --AlexOvShaolin 01:14, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
References in Pop Culture
I have a Cd by The 69 Eyes the album is Devils. In the song Feel Burlin in there courus they mention bowie.
"Going down to Potsdamer singing Checkpoint Charlie blues The 70's brought Bowie baby Do what you do"
I think this should be mentioned.Olsosha 17:06, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Actual name
It says on IMdB that his birthday name is David Robert Hayward-Jones, rather than Jones. Does anyone know anything about this?
- I was wondering about that myself. On the DVD for Labyrinth, under Talent Files for David Bowie, it also lists his real name as being David Robert Hayward-Jones. Seems like a reliable enough source on the matter. Zurgiea 22:33, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
- Well that probably explains it... Someone watches Labyrinth and updates IMDB based on that. IMDB doesn't require citations so is hardly a reliable source, and the DVD is plain wrong. If you read a biography like David Buckley's Strange Fascination you'll see his birth name is David Robert Jones. His father was Haywood Jones, which might account for the confusion... Cheers, Ian Rose 08:16, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
- That explains it. Thanks for the clarification. Zurgiea 02:45, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
Knighthood and why there won't be a "Sir David" too soon...
I have a reliable source (AP; quoted in forum) that he declined this officially in 2003: http://www.funbolt.com/forums/f14/david-bowie-says-no-sir-knighthood-45992/ -andy 80.129.114.9 16:39, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
David does not like Clinton?
According to the live acoustic sets he did in 1996/97, Bowie does not like the former US president too much ... There is a song "I can't read", and in the beginning he says: "This was a song that was partially written by President Clinton; it is about literacy." Sounds very sarcastic to my ears, YMMV. Would be nice to know what exactly DB dislikes on him, resp. what he's criticizing about his politics. -andy 80.129.114.9 16:39, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
- Either way, not very relevant. --AlexOvShaolin 06:19, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
social origins
Anyone know what his parents did for a living ? Johncmullen1960 09:42, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
- his father worked at a mortuary and his mother was a prostitute. --AlexOvShaolin 00:31, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Pronunciation?
Does anyone have a reliable source (ie sourced to Bowie himself) for the pronunciation of his name? 130.225.26.145 11:04, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
Bowieart
The article needs something about his interest in art. He paints pictures, including self portraits, he has set up the foundation Bowieart[1] and he collects work (as I recall), as well as interviewing Tracey Emin. Tyrenius 02:24, 21 January 2007 (UTC)