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Mmoates

Mmoates (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

Populated account categories: confirmed · suspected

For archived investigations, see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Mmoates/Archive.


09 May 2021

– This SPI case is open.

Suspected sockpuppets


On Wikidata, DoctorTexan was found to be a sockpuppet of Datamaster1. See Wikidata SPI. On the English Wikipedia, Datamaster1 is a confirmed sockpuppet of Mmoates.

On his Wikidata userpage, DoctorTexan states that he is Michael Moates. Previous sock accounts focussed on editting articles related to Michael Moates. — BillHPike (talk, contribs) 03:34, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by other users

Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.

User comment - Feel free to block me if you want... but I am not going to apologize to BillHPike... he has harassed me and stalked me here on Wikipedia for years. I can tell you that this is my only active account and will continue to be my only account. I was unblocked on Wikidata because they allowed me to contribute after making assurances that I would not create and new accounts and I can make that same assurance here. But I will not apologize to him and he has no right to demand anything from me.

Under Wikipedia:Clean start, "the old account must be clearly discontinued, and the new account must avoid editing patterns or behaviors that would allow other users to recognize and identify the account. It is expected that the new account will be a true "fresh start", will edit in new areas and avoid old disputes, and will follow community norms of behavior."

For the record, I have only made three edits on this account before he started blackmailing me. According to Blackmail, it is defined as "Blackmail is an act of coercion using the threat of revealing or publicizing either substantially true or false information about a person or people unless certain demands are met."

The threat is this investigation... his demand is that I must apologize to him. This is not okay. See my talk page.

This has taken place. No other accounts are active and if you look at my edit history on Wikipedia I have not edited any article where I have a COI.

It also says "If you are not under Arbitration Committee sanctions, you are not required to notify anyone of your clean start."

I would ask the admins to request that BillHPike not communicate with me on here so that I can contribute in a healthy environment without the stalking or harassment. See Wikipedia:Harassment. This individual has no right to give me ultimatums that are not documented in Wikipedia policy. See his demands on my talk page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DoctorTexan ... I don't appreciate being blackmailed or manipulated into taking actions that are not policy or else he's going to go after me. There is no need or reason to tell me I have to do something in order for him to leave me alone.

I am here, with no other accounts, to contribute... but this will not be possible if Bill doesn't get off my back.

According to Wikipedia:Blocking policy, Deterrence is based upon the likelihood of repetition. For example, though it might have been justifiable to block an editor a short time ago, such a block may no longer be justifiable right now, particularly if the actions have since ceased or the conduct issues have been resolved.

Blocks should not be used: to retaliate; (Bill wants to retaliate against me for not following his demands) to disparage; to punish; or (Bill wants to punish me for the past) if there is no current conduct issue of concern. (I have made only 3 productive edits)

Blocks should be used to: prevent imminent or continuing damage and disruption to Wikipedia; (there is no current disruption on my part) deter the continuation of present, disruptive behavior; and (there is no current disruption on my part) encourage a more productive, congenial editing style within community norms. (I have only made 3 productive edits)

Also it is important to note I was unblocked on Wikidata and have never been global banned. I have contributed there with no issues on this account as Bill admitted. He just wants to create issues when you can clearly see I am here to contribute and have only made 3 edits none of which violated Wikipedia rules. DoctorTexan (talk) 03:53, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

I have blocked and tagged DoctorTexan based on his admission. Obviously, CLEANSTART doesn't apply to block evasion. Also, regardless of his reasons, Mmoates's comments about blackmail are in and of themselves disruptive and very close to a legal threat. Wikidata's decision to unblock him is irrelevant to Wikipedia, although if Mmoates were to go about this in the right way, i.e., seek an unblock through the master account, it might be some evidence for unblocking him here, but this block evasion will only work against him as it is highly unlikely that he would be unblocked without at least six months of no socking. I am leaving this report open in case a clerk decides a CU should be run to ensure there are no other accounts at the moment.--Bbb23 (talk) 10:50, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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