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May 7

Samuel De Veaux

I have written a more extensive article about Samuel De Veaux, which includes a copy of his portrait, and I do not understand how to submit it. Could you please tell me how to submit it? Thank you.Bdaikin (talk) 00:24, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

@Bdaikin: This is the only post you've made to Wikipedia. Are you referring to Samuel DeVeaux? You can help add content there. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:08, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

@Bdaikin: Wikipedia articles are written using one of several wiki editors. If you have created a document on your computer in some other form, you will need to convert it into a Wikipedia article by pasting it in plain unformatted text into the edit window of a new draft page. You can then format it by learning our wikitext format and applying it. You should probably take the time to learn our formatting style, etc. perhaps by staring with the "Wikipedia adventure" (WP:ADVENTURE). Arch dude (talk) 05:06, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Reclassify minor edit

If I have made an edit and marked it as minor, but later realise that was a mistake, can I go back and remove the marker for "minor edit"? Tak Kovacs (talk) 11:53, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

You can't change edit summaries (see tasks 12105 and 15937 on Wikimedia's Phabricator), so no. Kleinpecan (talk) 12:12, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

You can do a WP:Dummy edit. And no, that doesn't mean you're a dummy. ‡ Єl Cid of Valencia ^talk 14:41, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Duplicate item in Talk:Oliver Lodge

In Talk:Oliver Lodge there are two sections titled "Anecdote". The second is a corrected version of the first. I have no idea how to fix it. (Maybe that goes for the original editor too!) 1.136.104.193 (talk) 13:29, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

I've removed it. Thanks for telling about this. Kleinpecan (talk) 13:37, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Large edit sections - requesting a Bot

As a small-time editor making small corrections on my small tablet, I find it intimidating trying to make a change in an edit section that goes on for screen after screen after screen. Could you pass on to the appropriate area my request for a bot that would modify all pages generally, inserting edit sections so they are "not too big" on some appropriate scale? (Yes I realise a tablet is not a good start but practicalities...) 1.136.104.193 (talk) 13:44, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

This seems to me to be Not a good task for a bot.; the best way of splitting an article into sections cannot be decided fully robotically. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 14:00, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

I haven't used it, but does anyone know if the feature that allows users to edit when double-clicking in a section places the caret directly where they clicked, and if it's usable on tablets? Could be a potential solution. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 14:01, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

As far as I know this tablet doesn't recognise double-clicks. Just how complicated is it to add an edit section anyway? - I suspect beyond both me and my tablet. What about a magic word (in curly brackets) which at the Publish stage inserts the new section (at the place where the human editor inserted the magic word) - or perhaps says "Not appropriate here"? But the newby editor would still have to tackle the long section the first time, AND know the magic word. Probably simpler to just make the small edits. 1.136.104.193 (talk) 15:14, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Clarified my comment 1.136.104.193 (talk) 15:19, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Section edit links are made automatically by section headings. A bot cannot insert suitable section headings. Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Layout#Headings and sections only warns against very short sections. I don't know a guideline about when to insert more section headings but it could be suggested at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Layout. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:11, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Wikicounsellor.com

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

I searched and found this company Wikicounsellor.com unfortunately i paid them and it seems they may be a fake company. If anyone had this same experience with this or any other company please advise. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.93.212.126 (talk) 15:03, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

I'm sorry you got scammed. But, Wikipedia does not approve of paid editing and it certainly does not advise people to pay a company to promote their company. In no way is Wikipedia associated with Wikicounsellor or any other paid article creation companies. See Wikipedia:Spam. This website is not for advertising your company or cause. Try social media or your local newspaper. I am closing this discussion because it is off-topic and cannot conceivably lead to the improvement of Wikipedia. Cheers. ‡ Єl Cid of Valencia ^talk 15:18, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Edit Collisions

Is there any way to tell if someone is editing a section? I had an edit collision with Wikicounsellor.com when adding to my comment above (and had to re-type the lot. Oh the pain!) 1.136.104.193 (talk) 15:27, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

AFAIK no, and even then, the software behind Wikipedia is somewhat bugg when it comes to automatically solving edit conflicts. I, for example commonly get an edit conflict message when I am editing the bottom section, and somebody appends a section below it while I am working. Victor Schmidt (talk) 15:37, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

That is exactly what happened to me. 1.136.104.193 (talk) 16:01, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Whenever editing a "popular" page, such as this one, I always copy my edit to my clipboard prior to pressing the "Publish changes" button. This makes overcoming a complex edit-conflict far simpler - Arjayay (talk) 16:23, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

@Victor Schmidt and Arjayay: The template {{in use}} is designed for just this purpose, you can use the parameter |section for (surprise!) individual sections. Cheers, MinorProphet (talk) 21:50, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

MinorProphet I don't think we want to encourage people to add that to this page, WP:AIV or multiple other high use pages, which is where the problem most frequently occurs, as per the IPs explanation, above. - Arjayay (talk) 09:27, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

@Arjayay: Yes, sorry, I realised that just as I clicked 'Publish'. Having now trawled through the archives at the Pump and at MediaWiki I can see how much effort people have been making to resolve the problem. I'll crawl back under my stone. Best wishes, MinorProphet (talk) 12:59, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Your text is in the edit conflict window (at least if you use the desktop source editor) so you can copy it without having to retype. See Help:Edit conflict#Layout of the edit-conflict page. If you made changes in multiple places then it can still be annoying to merge it to the current version. If you just made a discussion post then it should be simple. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:34, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

page approval

how do I get my new page approved so it is viable to the public? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmalone140 (talk • contribs) 15:52, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

In its current state, your "page" (actually your user sandbox) is completely unacceptable on Wikipedia because it is nothing but pure advertising and promotion. To get your page approved, you need to completely rewrite it so that it conforms to the neutral point of view and does not advertise your business. JIP | Talk 16:15, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

How to cite both an actual document and a summary

I'm using the markup

{{citation|title = Coupling Thin Interrupts and Coupling Facility Performance in Shared Processor Environments|id = 6355445|author = Barbara Weiler|date = 6 January 2014|url = https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/system/files/inline-files/Coupling_Thin_Interrupts_20131217.pdf%7Clay-url = https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/6355445%7Cpublisher = IBM}}

to produce the citation Barbara Weiler (6 January 2014), Coupling Thin Interrupts and Coupling Facility Performance in Shared Processor Environments (PDF), IBM, 6355445 {{citation}}: Unknown parameter |lay-url= ignored (help) with links to both a summary and the document itself. It's not really a lay summary, but I can't find a better keyword. What is the proper markup? Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (talk) 16:29, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Were it up to me, I would make |lay-date=, |lay-format=, |lay-summary=, and |lay-url= all go away – cs1|2 templates really are designed to properly cite only one source at a time; the |lay-...= parameters are simply a kludge that piggybacks an incomplete secondary-source citation onto the primary-source citation.

I presume by 'summary' you mean 'abstract' ('summary' is not a term used on the study's landing page). If you are citing something that only exists on the landing page, write a separate {{cite web}} citation for it. Anything else that is supported by the "Coupling Thin Interrupts..." study gets its own cs1|2 template with appropriate in-source-locators. So, for the landing page:

{{cite web |mode=cs2 |title=Coupling Thin Interrupts and Coupling Facility Performance in Shared Processor Environments |website=IBM Support |url=https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/node/6355445 |date=6 January 2014}}

"Coupling Thin Interrupts and Coupling Facility Performance in Shared Processor Environments", IBM Support, 6 January 2014

and for the study:

{{cite web |mode=cs2 |last=Weiler |first=Barbara |title=Coupling Thin Interrupts and Coupling Facility Performance in Shared Processor Environments |website=IBM Support |url=https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/system/files/inline-files/Coupling_Thin_Interrupts_20131217.pdf|date=6 January 2014 |id=6355445}}

Weiler, Barbara (6 January 2014), "Coupling Thin Interrupts and Coupling Facility Performance in Shared Processor Environments" (PDF), IBM Support, 6355445

—Trappist the monk (talk) 21:51, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

As Trappist points out, it is vital to use |last= and |first= and not |author=, since the latter leads into all kinds of darkness and despair when trying to sort out failed {{sfn}}s etc. MinorProphet (talk) 21:59, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Automatic edit filters have identified problematic content in your translation. Filter hit: Caractere repetate

Hi all, Beginner here. I have successfully translated and published a page on the subject of Neck dissection in Romanian. I have now translated another one on the subject of Cholesteatoma except I am unable to publish it and I receive the above error. "Caractere repetate" means "Repeated characters" in Romanian. For me this error message is quite criptic and I don't know how to overcome the problem. Can somebody help please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pardaillan81 (talk • contribs) 2021-05-07T17:46:22 (UTC)

I suggest you ask at the Romanian Wikipedia, Pardaillan81. because that is presumably where you are hitting the error. --ColinFine (talk) 17:20, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

You might also want to look at mw:talk:Content translation, it seems others are having a similar issue. Zoozaz1 talk 22:45, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

How to move a page.

Hello,

I'm new in Wikipedia (though I admit I have edited in the past under a different account). I was in the middle of creating a film article for Wikipedia using my sandbox. I would like to "move" User:The Film Creator/sandbox to Draft:Rainy Day Friends. How do I list it at WP:Requested Moves? The Film Creator (talk) 17:41, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

@The Film Creator: why not just create the article directly? Rainy Day Friends TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 17:47, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

@Timtempleton: I guess I could do that the next time I create my second article. As for my first, I've already submitted it to Articles for Creation. I take it I just wait? The Film Creator (talk) 17:51, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

@The Film Creator: It looked ready to go so I would’ve just created the article directly, and then you would’ve just had to wait for it to get patrolled. Also, FYI, the ping doesn’t work if you edit the user name after you already signed the post. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 17:18, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Request Edit

Hello,

I work for Brynn Thayer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brynn_Thayer and wanted to update her Wikipedia photo. I went in to add the new photo from 2021. Uploaded it 100A2123_FNL_WEB.jpeg and replaced the image from 2008. When I went to publish it I got this message.

You do not have permission to upload this file, for the following reason: The action you have requested is limited to users in one of the groups: Autoconfirmed users, Administrators, Confirmed users.

Can you please publish this photo?

Here is her imdb page to confirm this is her new photo: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0857201/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cdevact (talk • contribs)

@Cdevact: You're going to have to confirm that the copyright holder is willing to release the photo under a CC BY-SA licence; if they are, you may want to read WP:DONATEIMAGE. Be aware that if the image is released, anyone can use it for any reason, not just Wikipedia. Since you're also in a paid relationship with Thayer, please disclose your affiliation on your user page; you may use {{paid}} to do so. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 20:18, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

@Cdevact: A less bureaucratic solution is that you take a new picture of her and upload it here. That is a link to Commons, a sister-site to WP where free images are stored. WP is very strict about copyright, and the basic assumption is that any random pic on the web can't be used because copyright. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:53, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Also, when you upload your new photo, please give it a sensible name like "Brynn_Thayer_in_2021.jpg" (the .jpg extension and underscores are not visible in Commons, although that's what the file itself will be called) so that anyone editing her article will know immediately what it is. Thanks for helping to improve Wikipedia's coverage of a notable living people. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:19, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

What do you mean, the .jpg extension and underscores are not visible in Commons? At least when I view an image in Commons, the title on the top of the page is the exact same as the filename. JIP | Talk 15:22, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Yes, strike that, JIP! I was getting confused because I normally use underscores in local file names on my PC but replace them with spaces during the process of uploading them to Commons. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:41, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Weird invisible red-linked category

Hi all, at the end of Parody mass there is a red link to a category Articles containing Minderico-language text. But there is no such [[Category:Articles containing Minderico-language text]] anywhere in the copy. I imagine it might have been placed there once because the titles in Old French by Josquin might be somehow similar to Minderico language. Any ideas, please? MinorProphet (talk) 22:14, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

@MinorProphet: It was generated by a {{lang}} in the text. I changed drc to grc here and that seems to have fixed it. DuncanHill (talk) 22:34, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

@DuncanHill: Ha! Thanks for fixing my typo, O eagle-eyed one. And now I see there are hundreds of pages like Category:Articles containing Ancient Greek (to 1453)-language text. I suppose it's useful somehow... Cheers anyway :>MinorProphet (talk) 23:19, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Biography Page

Can someone please help me and write a biography page or aticl about me because I'm a Musician and I need Wikipedia to help increase my presence on the internet? Popiey14 (talk) 22:38, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Certainly not! Wikipedia articles are written about people who are already notable, not about people who want to become notable. --Orange Mike | Talk 01:06, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello Popiey14. That is not the purpose of Wikipedia. I suggest you take a look at Wikipedia:Directory_of_alternative_outlets.--Shantavira|^{feed me} 08:37, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Popiey14 Yes, Wikipedia has no interest in your internet presence or in enhancing search results for you. 331dot (talk) 08:39, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

That's right but may sound a little harsh on somebody who hasn't actually tried to save content about themselves. Wikipedia is for the readers, not for the subjects. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:48, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

May 8

Errors in reporting vandalism

I had reported an incorrect change as vandalism but it was made in good faith. Is it possible to request the invisibility of the change summary? Dr Salvus 09:49, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

@Dr Salvus: Edit summaries can be revision deleted, but your edit doesn't meet the criteria for it. You could make a dummy edit (i. e., a small edit such as adding a whitespace character somewhere) and then write in the edit summary that the previous revert was wrong. Kleinpecan (talk) 10:06, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Can I limit the list of displayed categories?

Hello everyone,

I have a question about limiting the displayed list of categories at the bottom of an article. As I am not sufficiently familiar with the hierarchy system, I will ask my question using examples and links to articles.

I would like to re-use the titles of Wikipedia’s categories for my film review blog. The existing categories are incredible, but I find that the displayed categories at the bottom of the article pages are much too specific. For example:

Tinker Bell and the Great Fairy Rescue - Wikipedia Why is the category Tinker Bell films displayed at the bottom, but not Films about fairies and sprites?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Amazing_Spider-Man_(film) Why is the category 2010s superhero movies displayed, but not the superhero films one, which I prefer?

Are there any settings I can change in my account to achieve what I am trying to do? I do hope my examples are clear enough.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.133.88.180 (talk • contribs) 8 May 2021 10:34 (UTC)

Please see Category:Films about fairies and sprites where 'Tinker Bell films' is shown as a sub-category. Please see WP:SUBCAT for more information. Essentially, articles are typically placed in the most specific subcat, although there are some exceptions to this practice. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 11:54, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

What this means in practice, IP user, is that if you are linking to the categories from your blog you can go up through the hierarchy until you reach the level likely to be of most interest to your readers and use that link. So, up yet one more level you'll find Category:Fantasy films which has Category:Films about fairies and sprites included but of course also includes many more genre. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:07, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

When is it acceptable to change the name on biography of a living person?

The page for M._A._R._Koehl seems oddly named. Koehl publishes scientific papers as Mimi A.R. Koehl (e.g.,example paper). However, Koehl's website and other locations use "Mimi R. Koehl" (example 1 and example 2). While the Wikipedia page starts out talking about Mimi A.R. Koehl, the name at the top is M. A. R. Koehl. When it is appropriate to change the main name on a page, and how is that done?--DaffodilOcean (talk) 18:11, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello, DaffodilOcean. I recommend that the title be changed to "Mimi R. Koehl" as that is how the MacArthur Foundation describes her, and that award is probably her strongest claim of notability. Wikipedia:Moving a page describes the procedure. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 18:20, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

DaffodilOcean, I moved the article for you since it looks like your account is not yet autoconfirmed. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 18:26, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Cullen328 - This make sense, thanks for sharing how you came to the conclusion, what should be done, and then doing it. Cheers. DaffodilOcean (talk) 18:29, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Cullen328 - Here's another one, this one is M. Sivapalan - which I think should be Murugesu Sivapalan based on the listing as a fellow at the American Geophysical Union.DaffodilOcean (talk) 22:28, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

I'd be cautious with that one, and have close regard to what he uses himself. Some Indian names do use just an initial and a name. DuncanHill (talk) 22:31, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Several of the reliable sources use his full name, so I moved it. I know that this initial thing is common among Indian academics, but in this case, I do not think it is appropriate. He is a professor at a major U.S. university. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 22:34, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

@DaffodilOcean: Autoconfirmed only requires 4 days and 10 edits. You easily pass that and can move pages. Autoconfirmed is assigned automatically and doesn't appear in some user right lists which are for manually assigned rights. That may have misled Cullen328. But you are still considered a new editor and may not know our article title rules well enough to move pages without discussion. We often use titles some people call wrong because they aren't official (but common) or aren't from the subject's language (but common in English sources). PrimeHunter (talk) 22:42, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

(ec) This "initial thing"? It's a Tamil name. I know cultural sensitivity isn't high on the "Wikipedia list of things we're good at" but come on. DuncanHill (talk) 22:43, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

I made the mistake of moving an article about an Indian person listed with only an initial to his full name, only to have it moved back. I was not aware of the custom of listing Indian names. JIP | Talk 23:17, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

I believe that many Tamils and south Indians don't have a surname as such, and the initials represent patronymics. Indian Naming Conventions explains things clearly, as well as the linked UK Guide to Names and Naming Practice. According to this site surnames are relatively recent, as a result of British colonisation. I found this blog interesting, including this quote: "V.P. Venugopalan said: I think we South Indians do it right! We use the name that is given to us (and truly belongs to us), rather than the family name (which incidentally belongs to all in the family). Binomial nomenclature does it the same way. Homo sapiens is abbreviated as H.sapiens, not as S.Homo!" On the other hand, some last names consist only of a single letter. Let's be careful out there. MinorProphet (talk) 00:20, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Additional proof I have no life outside Wikipedia

I just replaced hyphens in Mano River Union, so why does it say I added 16 bytes? Clarityfiend (talk) 19:22, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

• It's because of character sets. You replaced eight hyphens, but as Wikipedia uses the UTF character set which is a multi-byte character set, characters outside the basic 256-character range deriving from ASCII use multiple bytes. So each of those eight hyphens added two bytes. JIP | Talk 19:25, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Your edit summary "proper hyphen" was a little misleading. You changed hyphen to en space which is not a type of hyphen but a type of dash. It was correct to do it per MOS:RANGE. We also use em dash for some things, and minus for some things. There are a lot of those horizontal lines of different length and use. Most readers probably don't care or notice. Maybe screen readers treat some of them differently. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:24, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Those are actually en dashes—just to be pedantic. No sign of external existence here, either... MinorProphet (talk) 23:24, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Hrmph, hrmph, dash it all! Clarityfiend (talk) 23:54, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

In a peer—reviewed, double—blind study, it was discovered that approximately 68-71% of readers do not know⸺or do not care⸺about the typographical distinction between hyphens, en dashes, and em dashes. RoxySaunders (talk · contribs) 00:09, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Yes, but we are the ones who do know and care, and we keep the flame burning. MinorProphet (talk) 00:24, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:56, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

May 9

Need to edit/remove link from this article

Hello and salam. I am referring to the Yusuf Al-Qardawi article here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yusuf_al-Qaradawi At the external links section (at the bottom of the article), there is a link to http://www.qaradawi.net - Official website. As I clicked on the link, it redirects me to a Thai sport website. And, I don't think that is the Qardawi official website, which is supposed in Arabic. Thanks.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Younes2021 (talk • contribs) 9 May 2021 03:12 (UTC)

@Younes 2021:  Done (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 05:11, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Watchlist

Lately I've been having issues with my watchlist. For whatever reason, I haven't been able to see edits from unregistered users even though I have the filter turned off. I've only been able to see edits from registered users. I have the 'live update' feature turned on, but I have to refresh the page in order to see new edits. I also need help figuring out which filters I need to have on. Below are the filters that I want on, but for whatever reason my watchlist appears blank despite having them on.

• most recent edit
• edits made by others (IP's and registered users, excluding mine) (haven't been able to see IP edits and registered edits simultaneously)

I've been playing around with the filters to try and get it back to the way I had it before, but it just doesn't seem to be working the way I want it to. Has there been maintenance that's been going on that is affecting this? Yowashi (talk) 03:36, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

For me the watchlist appears fine, though I don't have much IP-heavy pages on. Make sure that in Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-watchlist you have the boxes under "Changes shown" checked appropiately. So when you want IP edits to be visible, Hide edits by anonymous users from the watchlist shouldn't be checked. AFAIK the prefs override any filters you define. Victor Schmidt (talk) 05:31, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Yowashi, I came here to post the exact same problem. My watchlist is also hiding edits by IP addresses. I keep seeing reverts of IP editors, but no corresponding IP edit. Strange! –Novem Linguae (talk) 13:59, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

See also: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T282183 and Village Pump Technical –Novem Linguae (talk) 15:40, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

New user (?)

I suspect that a new user is pretending to be an old user. He recently made some seriously major changes to this article: Galicia (Eastern Europe). In fact, he effectively deleted it, and we had a polite discussion about it, but some things didn't add up. Where would I report my suspicions? WQUlrich (talk) 12:08, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello, WQUlrich. There is nothing to report. Micga has said on your talk page that they had a previous account. But even if they hadn't, there is nothing that needs reporting about a new user pretending to be an old one or vice versa, unless their behaviour is disruptive. Focus on the edits, not the editor, and assume good faith. --ColinFine (talk) 12:51, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. He appears to be an honest newbie...so far. WQUlrich (talk) 12:58, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

PS: Don't worry, I'm not going to keep checking up on him. (Except, maybe, for that one article!) WQUlrich (talk) 13:02, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Can someone help me set up ClueBot or lowercase sigmabot on my user talk page?

I would like my user talk page to be archived automatically, as it's getting pretty long, but I'm not sure how to set up the bots. May someone please do it for me? Thanks! Félix An (talk) 12:39, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

@Félix An: I have set up lowercase sigmabot III with standard parameters at Help:Archiving a talk page#Sequentially numbered archives.[1] PrimeHunter (talk) 13:15, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Félix An, While this doesn't directly respond to your request, it reminds me of something I've thought about for years. When my talk page 1st became long enough that it needed archiving, I had no idea how to do it, and thankfully someone helped me out. requests such as yours show up here on a regular basis. This begs for an obvious solution. while I don't think every brand-new user should have archiving medically set up because the median new user probably will have under five edits and perhaps one edits to their talk page, but it doesn't sound like a difficult task to pick a threshold (500 user edits?) and have a bot search for those users can automatically add archiving to the talk page giving them an option to opt out. Is there any reason this should not happen? and of course who will bell the cat? S Philbrick(Talk) 13:16, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

There is also {{subst:User:ClueBot III/JustArchiveThis}}, which will cause ClueBot III to start archiving a talkpage with the default params. Victor Schmidt (talk) 13:35, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

• Just my two cents, archive bots seem to malfunction quite often, I prefer one click archiving myself, it's very easy to set up and operate. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:24, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Film entries

Why doesn’t Wikipedia list Motion Picture Association film ratings on film articles? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:187:8400:2A20:AC2A:FBB7:C56:30D7 (talk) 14:29, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

There's some guidance about this in the Wikipedia manual of style at WP:FILMRATING. -- John of Reading (talk) 15:59, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

The link is helpful, the short answer is this is a worldwide project.MPAA, is it was known until 2019, is an interest group that works for Hollywood. Some articles do discuss MPA ratings if there was something controversial about the film and it's rating. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:22, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Don't listen to them. It's snobbery, plain and simple. Herostratus (talk) 22:42, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Is leaked content allowed?

I am guessing this may seem like the obvious answer is no, since leaked content often comes from unverified sources. But I am more asking about leaked images from beta screenshots. Are those allowed on-wiki (even under a fair use claim), or are those also unverified? Aasim (talk) 19:11, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

I'm having a hard time imagining how you can claim fair use on something that creator did not even want released yet. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:18, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

That would depend a bit on if sources are talking about the leaked data. If say, something was post-release and the commentary was about how the game was different from the leaked screenshots were, I could see a need to show the screenshot that was being discussed. of course, you'd need RS commenting on this. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:23, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

After reviewing Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria, it seems that criteria #4 must be met. Given that the copyright holder would not authorize for the publishing of such content, that would mean the answer is no.

So I guess if I come across leaked images for software or the like, I can tag it with {{dfu}}. Aasim (talk) 20:18, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Moo

So On My Edit Of Cows I Put A Redirect Of The Sound That They Make. Then Later A User (I Forgot His Name) Said The Edit I Made did not appear ""constructive"' But On The Chicken Article, Cock A Doodle Doo Redirects There And Thats The Sound They Made. So Why Cant Moo Redirect There :/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dahou740 (talk • contribs) 20:48, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Dahou740, see WP:HAT. It isn't important to note what redirects to a page; the purpose of a hatnote is to explain if the redirect may be unexpected, and in the case of cow, the redirect would likely not confuse users. LittlePuppers (talk) 21:00, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

That is not it. The purpose of hatnotes is to point readers to other pages they might have been looking for. But placing {{Redirect|Moo|Doja Cat Song|Mooo!}} on Cattle as Dahou740 did in [2] does not make a redirect to the page. It makes a claim that "Moo" redirects to the page, but it's a false claim since Moo is a disambiguation page and not a redirect. The page mentions the song, the cattle sound, and many other meanings. Readers who enter "moo" in the search box are not taken to Cattle so that article doesn't need a hatnote for "moo". PrimeHunter (talk) 21:38, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Indeed, I should have actually checked if moo redirected to cattle. What you said was basically what I meant to say, but said better with regards to everything else. LittlePuppers (talk) 21:41, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

Editing 'Stable version' field

The Mercurial page pointed to version 5.7.1 from March, 8 2021 as the latest stable release. I clicked on the 'pencil' (pen?) icon to edit that which took me to the Wikidata page. I published the information for the most recent (May 3, 2021) release, 5.8. But the Mercurial page still reflects the old (5.7.1) version. How do I get that page to reflect the latest version?

Second question: I looked at the page history to see if I could understand how the version number changes, but the 'history' presentation of old pages that predate the 5.7.1 release (e.g., if you look at the [3] Feb 22] version). Is there a way to properly reflect the historical page as it was rendered on that day? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.229.59.142 (talk • contribs)

It looks like you also have to edit that version and the previous version by going to the circle with the arrow above and below it, and change the old version to the circle ("normal rank") and the new version to the up arrow ("preferred rank"). As for how to see the page as it appeared on that day, I'm not sure of the best way to do that; you can look at the history of the version number on wikidata (where you changed it); you could try something like archive.org, but I'm not sure if that would have it. LittlePuppers (talk) 21:35, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

May 10

Colouring in ward/constituency maps?

I've always wondered, do people use a tool to do such a thing? What I mean is like this image for example. I know it's based on a blank .svg file, but I can't seem to find out if there's a tool people use for ease of colouring the respective constituencies. OR is it just plain photoshop work? NeorxenoSwang (talk) 00:07, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

I don't know for sure, but even early versions of Paint Shop certainly allow you to select an area by its borders, and then fill it in with a pre-determined scheme. PS In your lede, "coinciding at the same time as the 2005 United Kingdom general election" is a tautology: I would suggest "coinciding with the 2005 United Kingdom general election." Regards, :>MinorProphet (talk) 02:05, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

@NeorxenoSwang: the user created this SVG file by copying and modifying an existing SVG file. This is typically done by using a graphical SVG editor such as Inkscape. Inkscape has tools to fill areas, etc. -Arch dude (talk) 03:34, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

...and in fact if you open the SVG source of the file, you see that it was created with Ikscape. -Arch dude (talk) 03:43, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Pinoso Wikipedia

Pinoso (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

I would like to ask the members of Wikipedia, to edit the information on Pinoso Wikipedia, since it says "El Pinos" is the way we call this village in Catalan. Wrong, since Pinoso village belongs to Alicante province and the noun of "El Pinos" is not Catalan but Valenciano. Please, note that these two languages are not the same although very similar, and share the same roots. However, the Valencia community is not Cataluña. Therefore, the blue link to 'Catalan' should be changed by "VALENCIANO".

Many thanks.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.36.81.123 (talk • contribs) 10 May 2021 10:00 (UTC)

Thanks you Timtempleton

Thanks Timtempleton for adding the photos. Abbeyblankensop (talk) 10:32, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Requesting small change to article "Gamergate controversy"

I wanted to make a small change to an article: it is protected. So I

went to the Talk page to request it there: the TALK page is

protected. I clicked I-forget-what and ended up at

"Wikipedia:Requests for page protection". Do you really think that that can be worked by unsophisticated editors? So I am requesting it here:

In the article "Gamergate controversy", please move note [a] from the word "received" (which is not an issue) to the word "they" (which is what is being explained). Thanks. Also while you're there, it's not "GamerGate" (with a capital G) that "redirects here" 1.136.104.193 (talk) 10:38, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

(I did not deliberately cause the strange grey boxes in the above comment. 1.136.104.193 (talk) 10:42, 10 May 2021 (UTC))

Hello 1.136. and welcome to Wikipedia! This seems reasonable to me and I've made that change, thanks for pointing it out and finding this place to do it on. That article is so fought over that even the talkpage is WP:SEMI protected, so you can't edit it without registering and hang around a few days first (unlike the talkpage for the less controversial ant).

The strange grey boxes comes from putting spaces in front of the text, the wiki-text environment works like that. You can achieve the effect of a space by instead typing a colon. Happy editing! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:27, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

GamerGate does redirect to Gamergate controversy. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:03, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Yes, but where do you see it spelled with two capital G's? Only After the redirection. 1.136.104.193 (talk) 13:24, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

The redirect has the effect that when a reader types GamerGate into the searchbox and search, they end up at Gamergate controversy, presumably because editors at some point thought that's probably what they wanted. Like, say, Barry Soetoro. I don't see how that's problematic. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:44, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Editing an article

I am a blogger and I have a website on I post most of helpful and useful content. I have a query that, If I add a link in an article to my blog post which might prove to be helpful for the readers, will it be okay for Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FunWithFriday (talk • contribs) 11:11, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Probably not. You need to read about reliable sources WP:RS <<<<< there! -Roxy . wooF 11:47, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

I'd say never, as you'd not be reliable as above, but also have a WP:COI in this instance. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:25, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Deleted article.

An article I wrote was deleted on 11th December 2019 by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RHaworth User:RHaworth and/or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:%C3%9Ejarkur [[4]] I have no idea why this person would make the decision to delete my article -

Draft:Dominic Hassall (dentist)

It was written by me about a world-renowned dental educator and professor so that people who are interested in his work can learn more about him and find his papers and research. I fail to see why the user who deleted the article has deemed the page to be 'unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view'

It seems quite an unusual and destructive activity to autonomously patrol Wikipedia looking for articles to delete. Perhaps Wikipedia should be looking at the credentials of these people.

I would like the article to be restored as a draft so that I can review it and make any changes that may have triggered such an excessive response from this person.

Flowonline (talk) 11:44, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Flowonline, clicking on Draft:Dominic Hassall (dentist) shows it was deleted by User:RHaworth as WP:G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion. RHaworth, are you willing to restore it? TSventon (talk) 12:02, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

As User:Flowonline is being paid to promote Dominic Hassall I think restoration is not in the best interests of the encyclopaedia. DuncanHill (talk) 12:05, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Also, the deleting admin won't be able to restore it, because they're (unfortunately) not an admin anymore. And G11- unambiguous advertising- seldom gets restored anyway. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:17, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

There is nothing in this draft that is worth restoring, it just references papers written by the subject, and is indeed advertising/promoting the subject. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:24, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Flowonline. The purpose "so that people who are interested in his work can learn more about him" is precisely what Wikipedia means by promotion. The purpose of Wikipedia is to summarise what independent reliable sources have said about a subject. If he is indeed "world-renowned" then you should be able to find enough sources that are reliable, wholly independent of Hassall, and containing significant coverage of him to base an article on. Then you can start again with a new draft, confining yourself strictly to what those independent sources say about him (and making sure you include any sources which are critical of him, if there are such). Apart from uncontroversial factual information like places and dates, nothing that he or his associates have said, done, or published belongs in the article unless it has been covered by an independnet source. --ColinFine (talk) 14:55, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Airport Name Changed - Need Help Updating

Hello,

I'm hoping someone can please help me update the name of an airport. I'm having a lot of trouble changing the main heading at the wikipedia page linked below. Can you please help me correct this? Thank you so much. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McKinnon_St._Simons_Island_Airport

I work for the Airport Commission responsible for managing this airport. The airport is located on St. Simons Island, Georgia and is now called St. Simons Island Airport at McKinnon Field. It was previously named Malcolm McKinnon Airport and McKinnon St. Simons Island Airport. Because the process was completed through the FAA, the airport is now officially call St. Simons Island Airport at McKinnon Field.

Thank you again,

E. Leigh Newton Glynn County Airport Commission lnewton@flygcairports.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by ELeighNewton fly (talk • contribs) 13:43, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Creating an account

There should be music on Wikipedia and more pictures of someone or things we're searching — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.114.206.102 (talk) 15:26, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Some articles (like Symphony No. 2 (Beethoven)) do have music. And most articles have pictures. I'm not sure what music and pictures has to do with creating an account. Could you clarify your question?~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 15:45, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Conflict of interest edit request_No response

Hello,

I posted a conflict of interest edit request for the page 'Primary hyperoxaluria' on April 14, 2021. However, I have not received any response thus far. Could you please let me know how long it would take to review this request?

Iciplascarfern (talk) 15:47, 10 May 2021 (UTC)