Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 June 2
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Nantucket
- Category:Nantucket County, Massachusetts
- Category:Nantucket, Massachusetts
- Propose merging these two categories into Category:Nantucket (or Category:Nantucket, Massachusetts). The two categories are based on the same topic of Nantucket. The island of Nantucket, Nantucket County, Massachusetts, and Nantucket (town), Massachusetts are all the same. The categories should reflect this. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:00, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
Category:Business executives of the Dutch West India Company
- Nominator's rationale: Administrators is used more in the articles than business executives, which is a more modern term Rathfelder (talk) 21:04, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
Ministers-President of communities and regions of Belgium
- Propose renaming Category:Minister-Presidents of Flanders to Category:Ministers-President of Flanders
- Propose renaming Category:Minister-Presidents of Wallonia to Category:Ministers-President of Wallonia
- Propose renaming Category:Minister-Presidents of the German-speaking Community in Belgium to Category:Ministers-President of the German-speaking Community in Belgium
- Nominator's rationake: fixing the plural, as in wikt:minister-president and e.g. Category:Ministers-President in Germany. Place Clichy (talk) 17:38, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
Category:Amsterdam artists
- Propose merging Category:Amsterdam artists to Category:Artists from Amsterdam
- Nominator's rationale: Not very clear how this is supposed to differ from the usual "Artists from ..." pattern. Rathfelder (talk) 15:55, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
Category:Women governors and heads of sub-national entities by country
- Nominator's rationale: This category would therefore be more useful if moved up one notch and made a non-diffusing child of Category:Governors and heads of sub-national entities rather than a container category. Not all categories in Category:Governors and heads of sub-national entities by country have a female subcategory. It should be allowed to include individual women holder of a such office in countries that do not have a national gendered sub-category. WP:FINALRUNG seems to apply: if Foo has only had one woman governor in its history, she should be placed in Governors of Foo and Women governors categories, rather than a new Women governors of Foo. Place Clichy (talk) 13:45, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose. It might be helpful to create Category:Women governors and heads of sub-national entities as a parent category, but renaming this category as proposed would require its removal from Category:Governors and heads of sub-national entities by country, which would impede navigation. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:59, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
- Note I have created Category:Women governors and heads of sub-national entities, as a parent cat to Category:Women governors and heads of sub-national entities by country, and am working on populating both.
That turns this discussion into a merge proposal. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:47, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
Female premiers and first ministers
- Nominator's rationale: WP:SHAREDNAME. The titles of premier, first minister or chief minister are used for many sub-national entities (such as states and provinces and devolved authorities) that have a dual system of leadership with a distinct head of government. The category for female holders of these positions should be defined by this function of head of government, as for the parent non-gendered Category:Heads of government of non-sovereign entities. Also note Category:Women governors and heads of sub-national entities by country for women leaders of states and provinces where there is no separate head of government role. I have the feeling that women is preferred to female for political categories in recent discussions. Place Clichy (talk) 13:29, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
- Merge both per nom. Obvious duplication. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:08, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
- Merge both per nom. Makes sense. This is Paul (talk) 15:36, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
- Question, isn't this a renaming proposal instead of a merge proposal? Marcocapelle (talk) 21:04, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
- It could be phrased as rename one and merge the other ... but the effect would be the same. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:14, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
Categories related to World Para Athletics European Championships
- Propose renaming Category:Events at the IPC Athletics European Championships to Category:Events at the World Para Athletics European Championships
- Propose renaming Category:Club throw at the IPC Athletics European Championships to Category:Club throw at the World Para Athletics European Championships
- Nominator's rationale: As of 2018, this is the name of the competition and which is what we should use for the category structure going forwards. Simeon (talk) 08:29, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
Aboriginal gods and goddesses
- Propose renaming Category:Aboriginal goddesses to Category:Australian Aboriginal goddesses
- Propose renaming Category:Aboriginal gods to Category:Australian Aboriginal gods
- Nominator's rationale: "Aboriginal" by itself can be a reference to any indigenous group. These are gods and goddesses of the Australian Aboriginal people. The parent categories are Category:Australian Aboriginal deities and Category:Australian Aboriginal mythology. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:39, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
- Speedy rename per C2C. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 00:14, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
Category:Strict nature reserves of Portugal
- Propose merging Category:Strict nature reserves of Portugal to Category:Nature reserves in Portugal
- Nominator's rationale: I'm not sure what a "strict" nature reserve is. The word "strict" does not appear in the article Protected areas of Portugal. I suggest upmerging to the parent category. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:24, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
Category:Fictional Taoists
- Nominator's rationale: Categories for fictional people by religion have been deleted multiple times: see here and here. This particular category has not been deleted before. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:56, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
Category:Non-nationals associated with the Pitcairn Islands
- Propose Deleting Category:Non-nationals associated with the Pitcairn Islands
- Propose Reparenting Category:Governors of Pitcairn directly under Category:Pitcairn Islands people
- Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING (WP:OCASSOC and WP:PERFCAT)
- Charles Fremantle is in this category because he stopped by in 1833 and tried to resolve a dispute, no idea why Dea Birkett is listed, Luis Marden went there to take pictures for National Goegraphic, Thomas Staines visited in 1814, no idea why Irving Johnson is listed, and Harry L. Shapiro wrote a book about the H.M.S. Bounty. (I added Henry Evans Maude and Charles Blackie to the parent category because they were temporary residents and an official, respectively.) This is classic WP:OCASSOC. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:54, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
- Hmmmm. Yeah - that would make some sense. There is another problem with the first category as it stands, as technically Pitcairn isn't a "nation", so what does "non-national" mean in that context? Grutness...wha? 01:33, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
Category:Organisations associated with the Bengal Renaissance
- Propose Deleting Category:Organisations associated with the Bengal Renaissance
- Propose Selectively Reparenting Category:Vangiya Sahitya Parishad directly under Category:Bengal Renaissance
- Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING (WP:OCASSOC) and maybe WP:OR
- The association with these organisations must be pretty slight: not a single article in this category even mentions the Bengal Renaissance in the text. (4 of the articles do list have Template:Bengal Renaissance, but the reason for including that template is equally unclear.) The child category has content on this topic though and should be kept in the tree. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:54, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
- Background We previously deleted Category:People associated with the Bengal Renaissance by consensus right here. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:57, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
- Support, a few of them might fit Category:Brahmoist organizations, but probably not enough, and other than that they are just organizations established in the 19th century by Bengali people. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:29, 2 June 2021 (UTC)