Wikipedia:AMA Requests for Assistance/Requests/November 2006/Mattisse

Wikipedian filing request:

Mattisse (talk · contribs)

Other Wikipedians this pertains to:

Wikipedia pages this pertains to:

Starwood Festival (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Association for Consciousness Exploration (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
WinterStar Symposium (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Questions:

Have you read the AMA FAQ?

Answer:yes

How would you describe the nature of this dispute? (policy violation, content dispute, personal attack, other)

Answer: They seem to be out to get me personally. They accused User:Timmy12 of being me and drove him off. They accuse me of being anti-pagan.

What methods of Dispute Resolution have you tried so far? If you can, please provide wikilinks so that the Advocate looking over this case can see what you have done.

Answer:They have filed numberous reports against me, several Checkusers, a recent RFC and numerous ANI's. I have defended myself some of the time. I filed some complaints and asked questions at the Technical Pump. Here I was stalked and my qestions demeed. Now the Cabal Mediator who was taken off the case is trying to block me. He was on the list above but I removed it as the first several times I tried to file I was sent to his page.

October 18, 2006

Puppetmaster Mattisse repeatedly removing puppetmaster tag

October 27, 2006

---What has happened since the original request for an Advocate in November (this is the middle of January now)--

Please, I beg of you that you familarise youself with recent events to avood actions that will increase the severity of the situation. I ask, please. This has been a horrible day, the kind I have been avoiding.

A short summary of events since November:

Jefferson Anderson (talk · contribs) - this person just added me to his AMA complaint a day or two ago. So I wish to add him.

What do you expect to get from Advocacy?

Answer:Some tips to avoid these situations besides being afraid to do anything. Maybe some understanding of what is going on and a sense whether there is any hope.

In addition, I am adding that I do not want a deterioration of my situation as a result of Advocacyl It has been going on for five months without help. I have beem doing O.K. (as I have learned to accept the omnipresent ugliness on Wikipedia) but I forsee a worsening of this as of recent of events in the last few days.

Emphatically, I do want discussion and interchange. I do not what a cup of tea while my Advocate "asks around" about me. I am an adult.

Summary:

A group of people are protexting a specific group of articles. I blundered accidently into some of them when I was wikifying backlogs and tagged one for ADF. That is how it began in August. A group of people are protextion specific articles that spam Wikipedia. Specifically:

But if you look at my thousands of edits you will see that I edit a wide range. This group, and the people they have instigated are the only people, aside from a couple of cases, that has ever had a problem with my editing.

Discussion:

I was hoping to gain a better understanding of Wikipedia and how to function here. It appears now that this is not going to help me understand. I asked the Advocate to explain a message left on my talk page today and I do not understand the Advocate's explanation. He ignores my emails and my postings on his pagel It is obvious to me now that I don't have the techical abilities to operate at Wikipedia. I want to withdraw my request for an Advocate. Sincerely, Mattisse (talk) 02:23, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

So far I have been disappointed with my new Advocate, as my mew Advocate took it upon himself to advised me to have a cup of tea while he embarked, without any of the discussion indicated above that advocates engage in, on a series of actions that I deem to aggravate the situation by spreading my name openly on postings and edit summaries on Wikipedia. I wished a discussion and an understanding, not a cup of tea and unilateral actions on the Advocates part, disregarding me entirely as a person with experience of the situation, and with no discussion whatsoever.

Followup:

When the case is finished, please take a minute to fill out the following survey:

Did you find the Advocacy process useful?

Answer: No

Did your Advocate handle your case in an appropriate manner?

Answer: He made a few small comments on pages, telling other people to be polite but as far as the real issues, he did not address them. He may have done more, as I only found out about the few things he did do accidently. He did not teach me anything and I was hoping to learn. I only had a few interactions with him the whole time.

On a scale of 1 (worst) to 5 (best), how polite was your Advocate?

Answer: 5

On a scale of 1 to 5, how effective do you feel your Advocate was in solving the problem?

Answer: 1.5

On a scale of 1 to 5, how effective do you feel the Advocacy process is altogether?

Answer: can't answer -- I've never seen it in action.

If there were one thing that you would like to see different in the Advocacy process, what would it be?

Answer: That the Advocate interact directly with the person they are advocating for. My advocate never initiated contact me after the initial welcoming note. A couple of times I contacted him with questions and got short, superficial, uninformative answers. I do not want to be treated as a child. I wish the Advocate inform me of his actions and plans, to discuss things with me, to give me information. I do not like tea.

If you were to deal with this dispute again, what would you do differently, if anything?

Answer: The Advocate did not alter the dispute at all. It remains the same. If I knew a different way to deal with this dispute I would do it. I no longer have any hope that the joy in writing and editing at Wikipedia can return.

AMA Information

Case Status: Template:AMA case status

Advocate Status:

Accept, Addhoc 11:31, 30 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

*Advocee taking a wikibreak. Addhoc 14:06, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am not taking a wikibreak as I understand what a wikibreak is, although perhaps I am wrong. I am withdrawing from the Advocacy program, is that called a wikibreak? Please clarify as I am seeking to learn and need to know about diffs and watchlists. So, very basically, I need to know if I am on wikibreak now. Have you put me on one? I though a wikibreak was a little banner a person could put on their user page voluntarily. I am requesting that you take me off wikibreak if you have put me on one. Sincerely, Mattisse 14:32, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, I misunderstood. Addhoc 14:37, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Closing this case - nothing more we can do, feel free to file another request or seek mediation, should the dispute still exist. Martinp23 18:34, 19 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re-opening due to private request. I can't take the case because acting in the same case for another user. --Neigel von Teighen 14:07, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm willing to give this a go. SilkTork 20:17, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Contact made with all the major players. Dialogue engaged with Mattisse. Picture emerging. SilkTork 01:20, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not true. Several of the most important have not been contacted.

I have been requested to stop. Matters are on hold until advised otherwise. I may be asked to withdraw. SilkTork 08:28, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I have not been asked to stop. However I am withdrawing from this case as I appear to have been the cause of some distress to Mattisse. SilkTork 18:17, 23 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]