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What the heck is supposed to be conservative about Lou Dobbs? WBcoleman 05:17, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lou Dobbs Tonight is not a news program; it is an editorial program. While the news pieces Dobbs has on his show are factual, they are not from the general pool other CNN programs use and do not meet the same standards of objectivity. Dobbs has an agenda, which he is very clear about, and uses his position as managing editor to create news pieces that enforce that agenda. Whether you agree with him or not, it isn't news, and shold not be labeled as such.

You have a point; "editorial" is probably a better word to use. BTW, please sign your comments by using four tildes: ~~~~. Postdlf 15:43, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is article has serious neutrality issues. Wickbam 15:23, 11 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not all conservatives are all conservatives

Whether or not you like Lou Dobbs or approve of his politics, you must admire him for refusing to stay in lock-step formation behind the Bush administration with all the lackeys and fascists this president attracts. Many far more liberal than Mr. Dobbs agree with him on more than one issue. Much of the conservatism he embraces is based in economics; perhaps his only remaining policy link with the political right is what is generally considered his isolationism or xenophobia.

On the matter of his distaste for displays of pride in the vestiges of immigrants' native cultures - he disapproves of St. Patrick's Day and probably feels the same way about, for example, the Puerto Rican Day and East Indian Day festivities celebrated in many parts of the country - his position is defensible in this one sense: during much of America's growth toward greatness the cultural petri dish was the melting pot and by contrast, multiculturalism, with its emphasis of keeping the source cultures distinct, will never allow that to occur again. This notion does not need to rely on racism or even actual xenophobia to have validity, but the reality is that this idea attracts people with those beliefs, who in turn are incapable of not sinking their own ship with their narrow-minded doctrines.

To 129.33.49.251

If you get a username, it would probably engender more trust. Your IP address has been used by vandals, and I'm not currently sure you aren't one.

As for the content you deleted, there is a way to make it NPOV, by editing it to remove opinions and retain facts. As for the SPLC, I am pretty sure they are considered a "civil rights group" and not a "liberal group." Most conservatives are also against racism, incidentally. The accusations are relevant to the show and worth writing about in more detail, assuming the rhetoric can be toned down. I nominate you to do this, as I imagine otherwise it would probably still be too liberally biased for your taste. —Vivacissamamente 01:47, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]


" there is a way to make it NPOV, by editing it to remove opinions and retain facts." No, the article is called "Lou Dobbs Tonight." It is not called "Critics and their detailed criticism of Lou Dobbs Tonight." That is what selected quotes and/or external links are for. The deleted portion was roughly 5 times the length of the original article and was criticism from a single source, some of it virtually plagarized from the SPLC site with the rest of it being pure editorial commentary laced with unsourced accusations. His critics and their criticism of him are specifically identified in the article as well as links to details of that criticism clearly marked. That seems quite adequate. As for the SPLC, I'm not sure why it offended you but point taken. I'll change it to the "liberal civil rights group" since as you noted, conservatives are against racism as well. Lastly, don't try to put me into neat little liberal/conservative boxes based solely on what you assume to be true about me. LordPathogen

I think more details of the criticism should still be put in. It's better to say things than to link to things, as long as you don't say too much. I agree the block, which was POV and copyvio, was also much too big, but I think that as the article is now not enough criticism is included. There isn't that much on the show either, really. I will try to put in more later, in an NPOV manner. — Vivacissamamente 11:22, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
"allege Lou Dobbs Tonight regularly airs segments featuring and has as on-air guests that they consider to be prominent white supremacists" -- seems pretty detailed to me. Anything else looks like just "piling on" frankly and since these are only allegations hence, does not deserve more space. Furthermore, it is not better to "say things" rather than link to them if by doing so, the article becomes grossly one-sided when the reality is not so.

whyh cnn aires hiim?

Personally im surpsised that cnn has an indivdual like lou dobbs. He's definately not a leaning lefty or even a moderate (ever there is such a thing). Many believe that cnn has a slight leftist leaning (I agree) but I can't get over the fact that lou dobbs would be a commentator on cnn Anybody have any input? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.71.25.4 (talk) 05:54, 30 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Hillary Clinton investigation

It's time for the DOJ to look into Hillary's activities and scandals. No one is above the law so she should be indicted and be tried for the felonies that she has committed. Junglerat68 (talk) 03:40, 12 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Is this article supposed to be about the CNN-era show?

The article seems to focus on the show from the 90's to 2011. Is there a separate article about the current show or is the article just not updated? - Tournesol (talk) 06:35, 25 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Fox Business Tonight

Is Fox Business Tonight a continuation of this show, requiring a renaming of the page and the addition of further information about it, or is it a separate entity (albeit with the same format), necessitating the creation of a new page with that title? Plandu (talk) 21:37, 9 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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