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A belated welcome!

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Again, welcome! KnownAlias X 00:32, 17 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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your Rfa

I have closed your rfa per WP:NOTNOW. Inka888 07:12, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Your RFA

I am sorry, but I have closed your Request for adminship prematurely. Simply put, you only have 76 edits on Wikipedia; while your edit count isn't the only determining factor, and numerous people have their own personal standards by which they judge RfA candidates, this particular RfA was all but assured of not passing.

I am sorry about this, and I hope you don't take it personally. If you continue to contribute to the project in a positive fashion, I am confident that you would be able to submit a successful RfA in the future. You may wish to consider applying for an evaluation by other Wikipedia editors for feedback on how to obtain the necessary experience. Once you are ready to request adminship again, there is a great admin coaching program available, as well as a guide to requests for adminship.

If you have any other questions about becoming an administrator, please don't hesitate to ask me. Good luck! Dusti*poke* 08:52, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict):Hi Core. Stick around, because there's an awful lot you still need to learn about contributing to Wikipedia before you can even consider being an admin - filling in edit summaries for example. Some editors who are 50 or 60 year old university professors with five years experience and 50,000 edits sometimes might even fail to become admins. I would suggest checking out the links on the welcome message I'm shortly going to post here, and if you really want to know what being an admin is all about, read WP:ADMIN, and User:Kudpung/RfA criteria where you will also find some more interesting links. Best wishes, --Kudpung (talk) 09:00, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome

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Re: American Idol

How do you know there will be six performances in the finale? — Lil_℧niquℇ №1 [talk] 02:50, 20 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I know because there are every year, in fact usually there's more but I figure it looks bad with that many TBA listed that many times. Just look back to last year's finale. The finales are always the biggest, best, and most watched Idol event each season.

June 2011

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The entire schedule is attributable to the respective upfront press releases for ABC, CBS, The CW, Fox and NBC with the exception of the Cougar Town/Apartment 23 slot which is directly cited to this article. Please provide some evidence that What Would You Do? will be on the schedule when you say, or stop introducing it, especially when the ABC upfront doesn't even currently include Primetime as one of the renewed shows for 2011–12. And as for the baseball, it is not included on any of the previous schedules (for this century, at least), in all likelihood because the scheduling of games is sporadic and is usually attributed to afternoon games, and definitively because it is not attributed to the regular schedule the way football is, and as such is not sourced as being on the schedule. Scheduling a game is not the same as a regularly scheduled game; again, please source it or stop. KnownAlias X 08:40, 13 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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All information about living people must be sourced to reliable sources, or it will be reverted. The Mark of the Beast (talk) 02:17, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

KnownAlias X 10:24, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ask yourself, Core2012; who are you to me or anyone else on Wikipedia that we can take your word that you know or have met John Quinones? If I told you that I had a personal relationship with Glee's Jane Lynch, or that Jon Stewart was my wife's distant cousin, would you have any reason to believe me? Wikipedia's policy is to VERIFY with RELIABLE THIRD PARTY INFORMATION. Provide some evidence, or just accept that you know more than everyone else does, and walk away. KnownAlias X 10:27, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

ABC source

That'll do just fine for a source. I had to remove it from the schedule, as nothing on there places it at a date or time, but I did add it (and Wipeout, incidentally) to the returning series section. I usually look for more official information in the press releases at ABCMedianet, but yours, finally, works great. KnownAlias X 22:42, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank God, because I was gonna just give up, though I never would do that. I don't see why it can't just be assumed that it will air at the same timeslot, considering it has EVERY single episode and season so far? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Core2012 (talk • contribs) 22:55, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Because this could be the year they flip it with 20/20 like CBS started doing with CSI and The Mentalist. Or maybe use it to fill the gap on Wednesdays or Sundays if Revenge or Pan Am flops until they're ready to plug in Good Christian Belles. We won't know until they announce their intentions. That's why it's not an assumption policy (Wiki calls that original research); it's a verification policy. Like any good reporter. Like John Quinones. Oh, and by the way, you really should sign your posts; adding four tildes (~~~~) to the end of your comments automatically adds your name and stamps the time so people know who you are when you're talking to them. KnownAlias X 23:06, 16 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Rhode Island.

The Governor did not sign the bill. Therefore, the bill is not a law. He has not signed it. Therefore, no action has been taking on the bill. It was Transmitted to Governor 06/29/2011. Please do not change the page again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarriageEquality (talk • contribs) 17:51, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Bill is not signed. Therefore, it is still PENDING. Thegreyanomaly (the bill has NOT been signed yet). A person updated the map and it was CHANGED BACK because the bill has NOT been signed yet. Therefore, I am changing it back. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarriageEquality (talk • contribs) 01:30, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Temple Run

Stop. There is an android version of Temple Run. --J (t) 22:57, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Doug Weller talk 11:26, 23 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

April 2020

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Shooting of Ahmaud Arbery

In this past week, you have tried to remove Arbery's race from the article three times, here, here, and here. You have also been reverted three times. Do not do it a fourth time. His race is 100% relevant to the story. Your editing is disruptive. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:39, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Four times. here Twice incorrectly marked as minor edits. O3000 (talk) 17:57, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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  1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
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There is an ongoing discussion on the article's Talk Page. You can join it here Talk:Shooting_of_Ahmaud_Arbery#African-American. Further reverts without engaging in the discussion are disruptive and may result in an report at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. Let's not let it come to that. Regards, AzureCitizen (talk) 00:26, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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May 2020

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If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Guy (help!) 10:08, 21 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

August 2020

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If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 21:52, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Core2012. Essentially every one of your edits has reflected a history of tendentious editing, to the extent that it seems like the purpose of your being here is not to build an encyclopedia but rather to engage in advocacy. You have a history of using misleading edit summaries, such as "Fixed typo" or "Fixed grammar", to railroad through changes that reflect a pattern of plain ideological agenda. Here are some of the common edits you've made:
  • Changing "undocumented immigrant" to "illegal immigrant"
  • De-capitalizing "Black" and removing the race of individuals (including edit-warring to achieve this)
Other than edits that contribute to a pattern of tendentious editing, you've made essentially no edits. After the expiration of this block, I strongly suggest that you shift your focus; I anticipate that any further block will be indefinite. Best, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 21:58, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I strongly disagree with your characterization of my edits. There is no reason to capitalize black, and illegal immigrant is the correct legal term. Core2012 08:26, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Based on this, I have extended the block to indefinite per WP:TE/WP:RGW/WP:NOTHERE. I have posted this to WP:AN] for review. Guy (help! - typo?) 09:04, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

How would I be able to get the block removed? Core2012 15:09, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Core2012 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I have now realized the importance of collaborative consensus on this website and if I wish to make similar edits in the future I will consult the talk page rather than simply edit without discussion. I was simply trying to keep articles neutral but I should’ve used discussion first.

Decline reason:

This is not convincing. You've been editing here for years, you knew this already. Frankly, I wouldn't support an unblock without you agreeing to a topic ban around race and American politics, broadly construed. Other administrators may well have a different opinion, however. Yamla (talk) 20:50, 4 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

I am literally agreeing to discuss edits I wish to make before making them on articles in those topics. That solves the issue of problematic edits because if there isn’t a clear consensus I will not make the edit. Core2012 23:34, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi Core2012. I think it may be helpful to clarify why I blocked. Essentially, I blocked your account because the purpose of your editing is to push pages closer to your ideological perspective (rather than to improve the encyclopedia as a whole). While this is a perfectly legitimate thing to do outside of Wikipedia, it's disruptive on Wikipedia. This is so even if you seek consensus for each edit before making the edit in mainspace; if you are here for just one issue or one viewpoint, and others aren't, you're going to utterly tire them out from discussing this issue and it's going to be disruptive to our editorial processes. That's why Yamla proposes a topic ban from race and American politics: that will give you an opportunity to show that you can improve the encyclopedia more broadly. Hopefully this helps, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 21:09, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

By using the term illegal immigrants I am making those articles reflect legal terms rather than politically motivated ones. The Supreme Court as well as federal laws use illegal and not undocumented. Core2012 23:36, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

It is also very inappropriate to state what you think the purpose of my edits are in a way that implies your opinion is indisputable because you do not know my intentions. Only I have the right to say that. Core2012 23:41, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

This will be my last post here unless my participation is requested by a reviewing administrator. I apologize for declaring your intention; rather, what I mean is that it is apparent to me that that is your intention, and as a Wikipedia administrator I have to make that call when taking administrative action. Regarding the "legal term", your note is a content question that isn't really relevant to your block appeal, but every time you make it you're digging yourself into a bit more of a hole. According to the libertarian think tank the Cato Institute, "illegal alien" and "illegal immigrant" are indeed used in immigration law, but collectively constitute only 46% of the legal usage; an additional 46% of the legal usage is "unauthorized alien" and "undocumented alien". (source) But in fact none of that is important, because we do not use the "legal terms" in our articles. We use language reflected in reliable secondary sources. While this is an ongoing debate, your position is not the only correct one; for instance, the influential AP Stylebook has shifted away from "illegal immigrant". In any event, none of that is the reason for your block; the reason for your block, as I said, is that your pattern of editing advances only one ideological position and that is not a good fit for Wikipedia. Best, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 00:18, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kevin, what can I do to be unblocked without agreeing to any ban? Core2012 01:26, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Core2012 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I apologize for my controversial edits and agree that I will consult the talk page any time I wish to make similar edits in the future. I should be allowed to make edits again because I will not make the same kinds of edits again without engaging in discussion first and if there is no agreement I will not make the edit. I am making this request because my previous one was denied with the admin making unreasonable demands as conditions for unblocking so I request different admins this time.

Decline reason:

I have examined your edit history and some specific edits, and it seems to me that you are here to push a conservative or Republican viewpoint instead of working collaboratively with others to arrive at a consensus based on what secondary reliable sources state. There are places to advocate for your viewpoint, this isn't one of them. I agree that a topic ban is needed (which you can appeal after a time, it is not permanent) so you can demonstrate with contributions in other areas that you can work collaboratively and use independent reliable sources instead of your personal viewpoint. I too do not think you will find an administrator willing to unblock you without a topic ban(I stress it would not necessarily be permanent), but one is free to do so if they wish. I am declining your request. 331dot (talk) 08:26, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

  • @Core2012: I edit-conflicted in declining this request, but my reason was pretty much identical to 331dot's, and I also would not support an unconditional unblock. If you edit collaboratively elsewhere and show no sign of promoting any ideological perspective in your edits (and whether you are doing so intentionally or not, your edits do come across that way), then an appeal against a topic ban could be reviewed a few months down the line. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 08:35, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I will add that each admin can only review one of your requests, so it is not necessary to ask for different admins. 331dot (talk) 09:08, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

All I want to do is be unblocked. I shouldn’t have to agree to censorship for that to happen. I am agreeing to reach consensus for controversial edits. Core2012 21:25, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

As multiple people have explained to you, you've demonstrated you are not capable of editing without causing problems. You are free to make one more unblock request, but given that multiple people have told you that you are unlikely to be unblocked without a topic ban, I strongly suggest you listen to what you are being told. If you can demonstrate several months of contention-free edits, you could then apply to have your topic ban lifted. You are free to plead your case that you should be unblocked without a topic ban, but based on your unwillingness to accept that your edits have been problematic, I have to warn you that it is unlikely to succeed. Remember, you have no free speech here; see WP:FREE. --Yamla (talk) 01:12, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yamla I did accept that my edits have been problematic. You seem to be missing this. Core2012 05:59, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

How many months would a topic ban last? And I wish for someone other than Yamla to respond. Core2012 23:38, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

Core2012 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I have taken the time to reflect on my behavior here recently. I agree my edits have been an issue and I wish to discuss a very limited potential topic ban. My only desire is to do whatever it takes to get my block removed ASAP and if a topic ban is unavoidable to have it as limited as possible and lifted without exceptions ASAP as well. I already have numerous productive and non-controversial edits in mind for pages on unrelated topics and I would like to be able to make those edits to start proving my value here.

Accept reason:

Per the discussion below, you are unblocked with a topic ban on race and American politics, broadly construed. That is two separate topics, by the way: "race" is one, "American politics" is the other. Please take the time to read up on what those mean. Six months from today, you may make an appeal at the administrators' noticeboard, at which point your behavior will be reviewed and the community will decide whether the topic ban is necessary. This topic ban is indefinite, so it will not expire until it is lifted by agreement of the community. Read all of the advice that 331dot, only, Julietdeltalima, and everyone else has given you above. Find an area completely unrelated to these topics and go edit there. If you start trying to evade this topic ban or start wikilawyering about how the article you're editing isn't really covered by these, you will be blocked again, and don't expect to come back from that one. GeneralNotability (talk) 00:03, 17 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It's up to the reviewing admin, but my suggestion would be a topic ban from race and American politics, broadly construed, which you could appeal after 6 months. 331dot (talk) 23:50, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with 331dot's thinking for a potential topic ban. That being said, your going kicking and screaming into an agreement for a topic ban isn't inspiring much confidence to me. What are the "numerous productive and non-controversial edits" you have in mind? This can help us assess your ability to contribute to the project to weigh against your past edits that suggest you weren't here to improve. only (talk) 00:22, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Surely—surely!—you're interested in some thing that doesn't implicate politics! Bicycle tires? Water gardening? Dale Murphy? Graham's number? Christopher Moltisanti?
Here's the big ol' litmus test: If you just now read that and felt yourself getting all tetchy because those things are not important compared to my political thoughts as an American in mid-September 2020, this isn't a good fit for a volunteer project for you. If you really want to make this a better open-source encyclopedia, show us that you're cool with spending an hour on a nice Sunday afternoon copy-editing articles like Caroline Calloway and the list of Tibetan dishes and zero-energy building and making them un-embarrassing when, someday, they get randomly brought up by Seth Meyers for some currently unforeseeable reason. If you only want to be the political defender of whatever you characterize your cause as, that's not helpful to this project. Gut it up and hit the "Random article" button in the left sidebar and show this community that you care about this project's article about, oh, hmmm... the 2016 Slovenian Olympic delegation. If your reaction is, "I don't care about that crap," have fun explaining that to our fine Slovenian colleagues, and please go back to your pre-Wikipedian endeavors. Thanks. - Julietdeltalima (talk) 01:11, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I plan on some edits to articles related to the 2020 US TV primetime schedule and updating names of shows and other items. Core2012 02:37, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

I am an uninvolved admin here, I am willing to unblock you on the condition that you accept a topic ban from race and American politics. This topic ban could be appealed starting six months after your unblock, but would remain in force until successfully appealed. I need a yes or no: do you accept those terms? GeneralNotability (talk) 13:30, 15 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

How does this get enforced and why is politics included? Race has been the primary issue here. Also would you be willing to make the ban be until January 1 2021? It’s not 6 months but it’s a more neutral date. Start fresh in a new year. Core2012 23:07, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

So, to be clear, you are unwilling to accept the option offered you by GeneralNotability, who asked you a yes or no question? --Yamla (talk) 00:51, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That is not true. I am allowed to make a counter offer first. You have been hostile to me the entire time Yamla. Core2012 23:07, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

This is not a negotiation. Do you accept the offer, yes or no? 331dot (talk) 23:09, 16 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There’s no reason to be demanding I’ve been nothing but nice. I accept because since apparently there’s no other way to get unblocked. Core2012 23:38, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

I also need to know that a neutral arbiter will review my ban appeal when that time comes. Core2012 23:39, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

I obviously don’t plan to violate the ban but how exactly is it enforced? Core2012 01:06, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

If an editor sees you violating the topic ban, they can report it to the administrators' noticeboard. If an admin sees you violating the topic ban, they can block you. GeneralNotability (talk) 01:11, 17 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yamla needs to be banned from actions against me. She is no longer capable of being neutral and is now being confrontational against site policies. Core2012 18:06, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

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Topic ban violation

These edits ([1] [2] [3] [4]) were a violation of your topic bans from race and American politics, broadly construed, imposed by GeneralNotability. Please familiarize yourself with the wording of WP:TBAN:

This section is an excerpt from Wikipedia:Banning policy § Topic ban.[edit]
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The purpose of a topic ban is to forbid editors from making edits related to a certain topic area where their contributions have been disruptive, but to allow them to edit the rest of Wikipedia. Unless clearly and unambiguously specified otherwise, a topic ban covers all pages (not only articles) broadly related to the topic, as well as the parts of other pages that are related to the topic, as encapsulated in the phrase "broadly construed". For example, if an editor is banned from the topic "weather", this editor is forbidden from editing not only the article Weather, but also everything else that has to do with weather, such as:

A list of currently active editing restrictions (including topic bans) can be found here.

The sole exceptions to your ban are listed at WP:BANEX. Please note that further violations of this restriction will trigger further enforcement action. Best, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 06:48, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Of the six edits you've made since your block was lifted, five were in violation of your topic ban. You are exceedingly lucky that L235 saw this before I did. Had I noticed this first, I'd have blocked you immediately. Your topic ban was unappealable for at least six months; you should consider that timer reset; you can not appeal your topic ban until 2021-03-01. You won't get another chance. Any further violations and I will impose an indefinite block on you. --Yamla (talk) 09:55, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yamla, I propose a ban against you on any further action against me. You have proven you are no longer a neutral admin. Core2012 17:59, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

While blocked, you only have access to this page to request unblock, not to pursue grievances against other users. 331dot (talk) 18:09, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

November 2020

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You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for violating your topic ban from American politics[5]..
If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 08:50, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

unblock

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Core2012 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I apologize for making edits to talk pages. I was unaware that this was a violation I thought the talk pages didn’t count as they are intended for discussion which I engaged in. If unblocked I will no longer use even talk pages for 6 months. Core2012 18:11, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Decline reason:

It's unclear to me if you are trolling or if WP:CIR applies. As noted below, you were blocked for violating your topic ban on an article, not a talk page, though you also repeatedly violated your topic ban on the talk pages, too. I agree with 331dot, L235 and GeneralNotability, below, you've caused others to waste a huge amount of time dealing with your disruptive editing. You were given a second chance and blew it. Not just a little bit, you comprehensively violated your topic ban, you showed you never had the slightest intention of abiding by it. Frankly, you are done here. Wikipedia isn't the place for you. WP:SO probably still applies. That requires six months with zero edits. But given your complete lack of insight into the problems you are causing, I have serious doubts you'll be successful under WP:SO. Note that if you are successful, the topic ban would remain in effect once unblocked. Yamla (talk) 19:31, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Core2012 18:11, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

I won't review this, since I was involved with your earlier block review. But you were told on October 29th above "Unless clearly and unambiguously specified otherwise, a topic ban covers all pages (not only articles) broadly related to the topic, as well as the parts of other pages that are related to the topic, as encapsulated in the phrase "broadly construed""(my emphasis). 331dot (talk) 18:18, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not only is this unblock request false (the user was explicitly blocked for a non-talk page edit) and the user bordering on CIR concerns it's clear to me at this point that this user has failed to understand the gigantic waste of time they have caused. I recommend that the reviewing administrator revoke talk page access if denying this appeal. KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 18:35, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I won't review this either since I implemented the TBAN, but concur with 331dot. I told you what a topic ban means, and L235 laid it out quite clearly above (including, in fact, "discussing on talk pages"). You've had plenty of chances. GeneralNotability (talk) 18:38, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Just ban me for 6 months and then give me a final chance. Core2012 18:39, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

I was not specifically told talk pages. Pages means articles. Core2012 19:55, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

You were told "all pages (not only articles)". 331dot (talk) 19:58, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ok well I didn’t see that so I deserve another chance especially with yamla being so unbelievably rude. Core2012 20:09, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

We are not responsible for what you see or don't see. You are responsible for fully understanding what you agree to. I think the Standard Offer is your only pathway back to editing at this point. 331dot (talk) 20:20, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

What is that offer? Yamla is the only one who suggested anything and obviously she can’t be trusted anymore. Core2012 20:21, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

See WP:SO. 331dot (talk) 20:23, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That’s literally what I was doing anyway. But I need a guarantee of no bans at all after that time. Core2012 20:25, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

No, the ban will still be in effect and must be appealed separately, after you have demonstrated that you can abide by it and make other contributions. You're not going to get such a guarantee. 331dot (talk) 20:29, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a way to file a formal complaint of bias or intimidation against an admin? Core2012 16:12, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

You're blocked, you can't edit anywhere but this talk page. You've convinced me that an unblock would be a bad idea. Doug Weller talk 17:32, 9 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Note that WP:ARBCOM is still available to you even though you are blocked. Be warned, multiple administrators have already weighed in here, so it's unlikely any formal complaint against any one of those admins would go far; WP:IDHT generally applies here. However, ARBCOM is an avenue of final appeal. Be aware, they may impose additional sanctions upon you; see WP:BOOMERANG. That's not a threat at all, mind you. I'm not part of ArbCom and would expect it's unlikely they'd impose additional sanctions, except perhaps to set a time frame around future unblock requests. --Yamla (talk) 17:58, 9 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If anyone except Yamla would tell me how to file a complaint against her, please tell me ASAP. She has convinced me she should no longer be allowed to take actions against me. Frankly, her actions thus far should be reviewed for bias. She has been rude since the beginning and I’ve noticed other instances where she is also rude to others for no reason. Core2012 18:41, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

November 2020

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You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for abuse of editing privileges. In addition, your ability to edit your talk page has also been revoked.
If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then submit a request to the Unblock Ticket Request System.  GeneralNotability (talk) 18:59, 9 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You clearly are not understanding how blocks or topic bans work and every attempt to explain them to you has apparently had no effect. While you can request an unblock at UTRS, I recommend you do not edit at all, including attempts to appeal, for six months, then submit a request via UTRS after the six month mark to get talk page access back in order to make an unblock request under the standard offer. Don't waste your time trying to negotiate terms for your unblock or removal of your topic ban - they're not going to happen and frankly all they've done is annoy everyone dealing with you (especially considering that you previously agreed to a limitation and then did nothing except violate that limitation). GeneralNotability (talk) 19:04, 9 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

UTRS 43158 is now open

User has requested unblocking at UTRS appeal #43158. Admins familiar with this case are invited to opine. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:38, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]


Following your statements in the above UTRS appeal, and discussion among several administrators, I have restored talk page access to allow you to post an unblock request here. As you were told at UTRS, any unblock is likely to be on the basis of your accepting that the topic ban can't be appealed in less than six months. JBW (talk) 22:13, 12 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have made a formal unblock request which still has not been addressed after several days now. It is posted as a new topic discussion on this talk page. Core2012 22:51, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Unblock request 2021

This user is asking that his block be reviewed:

Core2012 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I want to apologize for my edits last year and for taking block discussions so personally. I learned a lot during my block period about the need for consensus on even trivial issues. I have been surprised by the lack of diversity of views on some of these article talk pages also. I would ask that I be unblocked and have no topic ban whatsoever. The only way I can prove I have changed is to have the ability to engage in talk discussions on those topic articles to prove I will refrain from disruptive editing from now on. I also apologize to Yamla for attacks against you that were clearly out of line. After reading your talk page it is clear to me you are simply passionate about your role, as am I, and not personally targeting me.Core2012 21:40, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

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