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June 23

need to correct info

Pls correct the driving system of the Bangladesh . it will be . right hand driving not left — Preceding unsigned comment added by 45.124.169.171 (talk) 01:30, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

The information is correct; the heading is somewhat ambiguous. Here "driving side" means side of the road on which all vehicles must travel, which of course is "left". It does not refer to the side of the vehicle most commonly occupied by the driver, which would be "right". Doug butler (talk) 02:14, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Is wikinew.wiki a shady imposter?

I was googling for something in Japanese, and one result was on https://ja.wikinew.wiki, which resembles Wikipedia in appearance, but has cookies, a banner ad (I have an ad blocker, so I don't know what ad), SMS sharing buttons, etc. I searched Google for just the base domain "wikinew.wiki", and initially all the hits were Japanese with the ja subdomain (perhaps detecting that I'm physically in Japan). Googling "en.wikinew.wiki" turned up English pages, but the topics were really obscure (as were the Japanese ones). The site calls itself Wikipedia and uses a color version of your globe logo, a very Wikipedia-like appearance, and even your footer verbatim. But below the footer, it says:

This Page Is Based On The Copyrighted Wikipedia Article [topic] (Authors); It Is Used Under The Creative Commons Attribution-Sharealike 3.0 Unported License. You May Redistribute It, Verbatim Or Modified, Providing That You Comply With The Terms Of The Cc-By-Sa.

When I click on the rumored article (which has a URL of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/wiki/[topic] - note the double "wiki"), the resulting real Wikipedia page says, "Wikipedia does not have an article with this exact name." If I remove the extra "wiki", then I find the real article that wikinew.wiki is mimicking.

I can't tell if they have your header (Article/Talk...Search), because where it would be is obscured by a cookie agreement banner, and I have no interest in agreeing to cookies on a sketchy website. The fact that Google doesn't have any common topics (even though they appear to exist on the site) seems like an attempt to "fly under the radar" - apparently they use robots.txt or something similar to deliberately keep Google from indexing more normal topics. It all smells very, very fishy. 121.84.89.220 (talk) 08:03, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

• Thank you for the heads-up, but there is absolutely no reason to be alarmed. There are many, many, many mirrors and forks of Wikipedia around the web. Some of those are just (automated) copy-pastes with ads on top, but that is one of the uses our license allows, and this example probably complies with our license due to the footer.

The Wikimedia Foundation might have something to say about the use of the Wikipedia globe logo because of trademarks, but otherwise, there is nothing to be done. Tigraan^{Click here for my talk page ("private" contact)} 08:28, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

• Okay, thanks for the explanation. This was the first time I had run into one of those monetizing mirrors. 121.84.89.220 (talk) 00:14, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Wrong logo

Hello

How do I change the logo on the St Paul's Juniors page. You currently have the old logo for Colet Court which hasn't existed for a long time and it is also still pulling through to our google listings which is proving very unhelpful. I tried to upload the file but it won't let me. It keeps giving me an error message which says we can't determine if this is suitable for upload to wikipedia commons. Can we please resolve this.

Thank you,

Jessica — Preceding unsigned comment added by SPS JMS (talk • contribs) — SPS JMS (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

Courtesy link: St Paul's Juniors (which was formerly known as Colet Court). AndrewWTaylor (talk) 13:38, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

SPS JMS, logos don't go on Commons, they go on WP itself. Follow this link Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard and chose "Upload a non-free file" (then "This is a copyrighted, non-free work, but I believe it is Fair Use." then "This is a logo of an organization, company, brand, etc."). Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:47, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

When will my Sandbox page be searchable?

Can someone review my newly revised draft? at this point I don't know where i'm going wrong. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Weknoweverything21 (talk • contribs) 13:47, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Weknoweverything21, I assume you mean Draft:The Grosse Pointe News. Check WP:NORG, that is your first hurdle. If you have those sources, use them in the draft. If not, edit something else. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:54, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

And if WP:COI applies to you, please follow the guidance there. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:58, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

make a new article

Can someone please start a page for the movie HoneyBee from 2016?

You can request someone start it at WP:RA, but it's probably faster if you find reliable sources and think about creating a draft. See WP:YFA for more details. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:31, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Username list

With the link to "User rights", I used to be able to see in a list all accounts that started with a particular set of characters. Right now, it shows this. If I manually remove the &limit" from the URL, it seems to work, but why does it use that at all? What should I do differently? (If I change the characters after I've removed the limit=, it then does it with a limit of 50.)--Bbb23 (talk) 15:53, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Bbb23, when I look up the same thing (i.e. by typing "Bbb" at Special:ListUsers), I get this, with a limit of 500. This should be tied to the Number of edits to show in recent changes, page histories, and in logs, by default preference at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rc – what value do you have set there? --Blablubbs|talk 15:59, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

@Blablubbs: I have 50, but that triggers two questions. As my first diff above shows, the first time I did it, it defaulted to a limit of 1; and is there any way to break this down, e.g., only 50 in Recent changes but a larger number when doing this, or better still, override whatever I have when I'm in the interface itself (without modifying the URL)? Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:07, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

@Bbb23, I don't think there's a way to break down the preference (at least not in Special:Preferences), but you should see buttons next to the page selectors at the top and bottom of the list that allow you to select how many users to show (20 | 50 | 100 | 250 | 500). Also, I think I may have skipped over a crucial part of your question: Can you clarify which "user rights" link you're talking about? --Blablubbs|talk 16:10, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

@Blablubbs: Aha! I was thinking the limit would be before I hit Show, but the buttons to the right of the one user I get will be fine. We're using the same page. I get there, for example, by looking at any user's contributions and clicking on the link "User rights" at the bottom. I still don't understand why mine defaults to one, but .... --Bbb23 (talk) 16:16, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Oh, that one – yeah, I get a limit of 1 there too, but not when I query something manually at Special:ListUsers, so it seems to just be a mediawiki default; if it bothers you enough, you could probably work around it with a userscript or a redirector browser plugin (I use this one to redirect all CentralAuth links to meta for example), but it's probably not worth the effort. --Blablubbs|talk 16:23, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

That limit comes from Template:Sp-contributions-footer; you could try and get consensus for changing it there. Alternatively, a user script like this should do the trick:

$('#sp-contributions-footer .hlist .external[href*="Special:ListUsers"]').each(function() {
  var url = new URL(this.href);
  url.searchParams.delete("limit");
  this.href = url;
})

– Rummskartoffel 17:03, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

@Bbb23: I think the link at the bottom of user contributions has always said limit=1. It was deliberately added like that in 2008.[1] All the links are for the given user, not users with similar names. I would oppose changing it. Maybe you are thinking of other ways you have reached Special:ListUsers without specifying limit=1. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:54, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter:Thanks, I wasn't planning on requesting a change; didn't seem like a good idea to me. Now that I understand better how it works, I don't see a problem leaving it as is.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:44, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

How Do I Retrieve Archived Info that's Disappeared From Wiki?

I have a client (an individual) that has had a wikipedia bio online for years.

While we were working with the wiki team to make some updates, the page just disappeared from online and now says it's 'archived,' and when we inquire w/ the wiki team, no one responds via email, within their portal or via phone.

How do we get it back online? Or get in touch with someone at wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.58.94.49 (talk) 15:56, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

What was the name of the article? Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 16:05, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Can you tell us what the title of the article was? Usedtobecool ☎️ 16:06, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

And who are this "wiki team" of which you speak? --Orange Mike | Talk 17:16, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Looks like you've just got in touch with someone. However, we are not 'at Wikipedia' in a sense nobody here is employed by Wikipedia (or, more precisely, by Wikimiedia Foundation, who runs he project). We are all volunteers and we can hardly guess the page you're talking about until you give us its name. Please help us help you and say what you are looking for. --CiaPan (talk) 17:39, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Try looking for it at http://archive.org

Editing Wikidata entries

Hi there, I've done some work on the Sotheby's page & want to remove the financial data (revenue, operating income, net income, etc.) from their infobox seeing as they're a private company & that won't be updated anymore. When I go to remove that from the infobox, I'm left with a preview of the data & a link to the Wikidata page. I'm not sure what I need to do to remove said data from the infobox & do not want to blank those pages on Wikidata. Can anyone help? I was directed here from the Sotheby's talk page by another user. Gold Pieces (talk) 16:40, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Gold Pieces, there is a way (not documented in the infobox template) to suppress fields you don't want. The example from {{Infobox person/Wikidata}} is:

{{Infobox person/Wikidata

| suppressfields=occupation children

| dateformat = dmy

| noicon=on

...

}} StarryGrandma (talk) 17:07, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

StarryGrandma, thank you for the help. I've applied the code in a preview to the Sotheby's page & while it does work, I can't get it to apply to all the financial categories. For some reason, it won't hide the equity field but will apply to all other fields. I've verified that I'm spelling it correctly & typing in the right field. Here's my sample:

| suppressfields = revenue operating_income net_income assets equity num_employees

Am I doing this wrong? Thanks in advance. Gold Pieces (talk) 17:41, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

|equity= is not populated from wikidata so |suppressfields= does not apply. If you want to remove the financial data, remove those parameters and their values and then set |suppressfields=revenue operating_income net_income assets num_employees to prevent the template from fetching those data from wikidata.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 18:10, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Gold Pieces, suppressfields only works with fields that the template can get from Wikidata. The Wikidata entry for Sotheby's doesn't have equity, so just blanking the field is enough. This could be a problem if someone added an equity value to Wikidata later, so keep equity in the list of fields to be suppressed. StarryGrandma (talk) 18:30, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Do those product reviews establish notability?

• Got a bug bite? This treatment can provide instant relief (CNN Underscored)
• This $10 Doodad Instantly Makes Bug Bites (and Bee Stings) Less Irritating (New York's The Strategist)
• [2] (Poseidon Sciences R&D)

Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) § Product reviews says "a strong indication of a sponsored or other relationship is a review that is excessively positive or negative", and they do seem overly positive for me. On the other hand, the first two articles are published in seemingly reliable sources.

Am I being paranoid or do these, too, seem like sponsored reviews to you? Kleinpecan (talk) 18:03, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

@Kleinpecan: The CNN source you included looks a little bit too commercial and says it doesn’t have the input of CNN’s news staff. The New York source looks better because it says it’s items selected by the editors, although they do also receive compensation. These two alone would not demonstrate notability, so I’d look for other sources if you can.TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 21:15, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

I’m editing on my mobile so I didn’t initially see the third source. It’s a paper posted on Shopify, so that wouldn’t be reliable or demonstrate notability. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 21:24, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

The third source cited would probably fall foul of WP:MEDRS guidelines, too. AndyTheGrump (talk) 21:34, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Thank you both. Kleinpecan (talk) 11:45, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

BCL VERSION OF MediaWiki:Guidedtour-tour-twa7.js and soon

Where should I request for editing a MediaWiki?? Shimin_Ufesoj 18:29, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

I would think at MediaWiki Talk:Guidedtour-tour-twa7.js, ShiminUfesoj. By the way, your signature breaks at least two guidelines: please change it immediately: WP:CUSTOMSIG/P. --ColinFine (talk) 21:13, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

--oh Im sorry, I will change my signature later, --ColinFine as of now I translated the The Wikipedia Adventure to Bikol Sentral, but I'm not permitted to edit MediaWiki to work properly what I translated. -- Shimin_Ufesoj 04:31, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

How do i create a Wiipedia page on a musical group?

I want to create a Wikipedia page for a Rap group from the early 90's — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrpierson51 (talk • contribs) 19:06, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Your starting point is to assess whether the group meets Wikipedia's definition of notability, & particularly WP:NMUSIC. After that, advice is available at WP:Your first article. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:29, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Arabic variants font

Hi, We have an issue here regarding the font selected by the OS/browser to display varieties of Arabic such as South Levantine Arabic (ajp) and North Levantine Arabic (apc). Apparently on Windows 10, using Firefox, Edge, or Chrome, the following words don't look the same and may not be readable depending on the language code used: ‏احنا‎ (ar) ‏احنا‎code: ajp is deprecated (ajp) ‏احنا‎ (apc) // ‏اللَّهْجَةُ الشَّامِيَّة‎‎ (ar) ‏اللَّهْجَةُ الشَّامِيَّة‎ (ajp) ‏اللَّهْجَةُ الشَّامِيَّة‎ (apc) On MacOS + Chrome/Firefox/Safari everything looks OK. Do you know if there's a way to solve this problem? A455bcd9 (talk) 20:54, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Hello, A455bcd9. Generally, people who frequent the Help desk know about creating and editing Wikipedia articles, but not about the way the software works: WP:VPT would be a better place to ask. --ColinFine (talk) 21:07, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi, thanks, I didn't know VPT. I posted it there. A455bcd9 (talk) 22:09, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Re: Biography/Autobiography.

Dear Wikipedia Administration, &/or Editorial staff, &/or ... ??

There's a VERY spartan article about me & my dual political/legal careers. (I am "Robert F. Frazier" [Aka: "Robert F. Frazier, Esq.].)

I attempted on my own to augment this Article with factual biographical/autobiographical material¹. However, after only several months following my posting of the augmentation a volunteer deleted everything I had provided with the wry comment that it "looked like a Curriculum Vitae" or "a job application"!! I'm 72+ years of age (Which this volunteer could have determined from the birth date I had provided) & I am not looking for a job² or any jobs!!

(¹Note ... The material I provided was very similar to what I had observed in numerous other "Wikipedia"[tn] biographies ... Viz. Family background, Parents, Birth Date, other vital statistics & information, Education, Early Career, Mature Career & "Highllights", extra-curricular avocations, etc.)

(²Note ... My last & current jobs are as [1] a self-employed Trial Lawyer, [2] a self-employed politico-military consultant, [3] an Historian & Historical writer, [4] the President of my Class (1971) at Lehigh University, & [5] a Public Speaker for 3rd-party events & an intermittant consultant to broadcasts purporting to be "news".)

QUESTION: Could I please be informed of (1) how my Article can be augmented while avoiding the type of inexperienced interference which I have already experienced, & of (2) how I might be assigned to a more professional (Or, perhaps, that would be a more empathetic & tolerant) volunteer who might be my collaborator (Not exactly a "ghostwriter" but not entirely dissimilar from such either) to bring my Article to a creditable level in terms of being an accurate biography &/or autobiography??

Respectfully Submitted ... ... Robert (F. Frazier, Esq.).

P.S. If my inquiry here is overlong compared to a median of your submissions, please excuse & forgive my inexperience in writing to you at "Wikipedia"[tn]; This is only my first effort ever at a direct communication to "Wikipedia"[tn] Administration etc., & I have not found a tutorial for what you might expect in these inquiries. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RFFESQ41 (talk • contribs) — RFFESQ41 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

 Courtesy link: Robert F. Frazier --Orange Mike | Talk 23:40, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

@RFFESQ41: I suggest reading WP:AUTO, which will explain why trying to write or edit an article about yourself is very strongly discouraged. If you have suggestions for improving the article, you can post that suggestion, along with citations to published, reliable sources, to the article's talk page, along with {{edit request}} and a volunteer editor will evaluate it for inclusion. RudolfRed (talk) 00:31, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

As state legislators are one of my specialties, I've taken a whack at the article about you, using what little material I can find online. (This job would be much easier if back issues of the excellent Pennsylvania Manual were available online the way the Wisconsin Blue Book is.) Note that I used nothing which comes from you, but rather impartial content from reliable sources. --Orange Mike | Talk 00:53, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

June 24

Ron Johnson

Don't feed the trolls JIP | Talk 10:44, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

How do you, Wikipedia justify your LIES about Ron Johnson. You are obviously Liberal Communists pushing lies. I would like to edit out all your lies. More than likely NO ONE can edit your crap and you lie about that too! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:246:4A80:7B60:D5C8:4C5:C21F:9B5F (talk) 02:03, 24 June 2021 (UTC) Which Ron Johnson would that be? DuncanHill (talk) 02:15, 24 June 2021 (UTC) (edit conflict) Wikipedia has articles for many people named Ron Johnson. If you would like to provide constructive comments to improve the article, please post your suggestions on the article's talk page, with reliable sources. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) GoingBatty (talk) 02:17, 24 June 2021 (UTC) They never intended to read this. Just revert this crap off as trolling. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 04:29, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

My Article

Hi guys, I don't know why my article is nominated for speedy deletion, even after the addition of the reference articles to it. I don't know whether my article is deleted or not. if not, please check the reference articles and approve my article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shabarish Gudisi (talk • contribs)

We are not social media, and you hijacked a userpage. Don't do that again. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 05:40, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Spell Check BOT invocation

search: genious, a misspelling of genius, occurs 44 times. (Genious redirects to Genius) .... 0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 06:04, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

@0mtwb9gd5wx:There are no "spell check bots", since checking spelling is too difficult - see WP:SPELLBOT - but a post at Wikipedia talk:Typo Team might attract the attention of willing editors. At first glance, most of the search results are proper names or in quoted text. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:41, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

All the search results are proper names, titles, quotes or redirects. Do not change any of them unless you have checked the source doesn't say genious. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:54, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

I'm looking for a spell checker script or tool

Is there a good script/tool for spell checking? Wario-Man ^talk 09:23, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Typo Team#Methods for searching and correcting typos, or ask at Wikipedia talk:Typo Team. Use with caution as a lot of apparent typos are obscure or foreign words or in quotations. TSventon (talk) 10:58, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Wario-Man, please do not revert badly formatted questions. You could add a heading, or leave it to a helper to do so in due course. TSventon (talk) 11:08, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Noted, thanks. Wario-Man ^talk 13:42, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Larry Heinemann

The page on Larry Heinemann does not mention the fact that Larry taught at DePaul University as a "Writer at Large," along with author Ana Castillo. I attended one of Larry's classes in 2002, at DePaul, but I'm not sure how long Larry taught there. I didn't want to add it without the proper research on his tenure. Any suggestions on if it should be added without knowing the exact amount of time? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikecataldo (talk • contribs) 09:42, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Mikecataldo you would need to find a published reliable source for the appointment, see WP:RS. Wikipedia doesn't rely on editors' own knowledge, known as original research. TSventon (talk) 11:18, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Clarification on citing most followed accounts

In article Koo (social network), the most followed accounts section has a table with 5 most followed accounts. It refers to their respective profiles. I tagged it with external links and OR issues at the top. I'm now wondering if it is allowed? Per WP:EL and WP:NOSOCIAL, it's not allowed. Or is there a provision for this exact purpose? Thanks! -- DaxServer (talk) 10:46, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

@DaxServer: Looking at this from an outsider's perspective, I don't see why the section is even necessary for a Wikipedia article. It doesn't seem to convey any notability (especially with the sources used), and could be construed as promotional. Either way, those external links shouldn't be in the body. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 12:25, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

They were removed by User:OrangeMike less than an hour ago. JIP | Talk 13:50, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the updates! -- DaxServer (talk) 14:25, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Redlink to Heathrow Airport

I've just added a wikilink to Heathrow Airport at Uxbridge College#History, but it is showing and behaving as a redlink. I copied and pasted the article name and it is exactly as above, which is appearing here as a valid blue link, so am a bit baffled. Can anyone advise me? Thanks. Tacyarg (talk) 15:18, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Tacyarg somehow there must have been a non standard character in the link. I copied and pasted the article name and that seems to have fixed it. My best advice when something goes wrong is that trying again and using preview sometimes works. And the Helpdesk often works as well. TSventon (talk) 15:36, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Yes, there was a zero-width space in there just before the closing square brackets. – Rummskartoffel 15:42, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Rummskartoffel, how can you tell there was a zero-width space in there? TSventon (talk) 16:55, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

@TSventon:. In the source editor, with syntax highlighting on (pen icon to the left of "Advanced" in the edit window) the space appears as a red dot. I've included a copy here as an example. [[Heathrow Airport​]] only visible in edit mode. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:06, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

@TSventon: I suspected there might be some kind of invisible character there because the wiktext looked correct, so I copied the relevant wikitext from the diff into my browser console and then used a JavaScript one-liner

"[[Heathrow Airport​]]".split("").map(c => [c, c.codePointAt().toString(16)])

to get a list of all of the characters side-by-side with their Unicode code point. The code points for this kind of special character are much higher numbers than those for your typical English Latin letters, so finally I just looked up the one that stood out to find out what character it was. – Rummskartoffel 13:15, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

@Rummskartoffe:. Wow, I would never have thought of doing that! This just shows how powerful the syntax highlighter is: toggle it on and off in an edit here and you'll see the offending character at once.... Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:26, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, I think I chose an unnecessarily complicated method... but I mess with that kind of stuff often, so that's the first idea I had. – Rummskartoffel 14:10, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

@Rummskartoffel:, @Michael D. Turnbull:, thanks for your answers. I want to be able to answer similar questions better next time. The syntax highlighter works in this case, but doesn't seem to work for Cyrillic characters used in "wаs а mоrning" mentioned in an earlier question. How could I use the JavaScript one-liner above as a complete novice? TSventon (talk) 09:42, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Notability:William E. McClusky - opinions wanted.

Not sure if there is a more specific place to ask. Could someone take a look at https://history.nycourts.gov/biography/william-e-mcclusky/ and let me know if based on the information there if he would meeting notability? I've taken a look at WP:JUDGE and I'm unfamiliar with the legal structure of New York to know whether that is enough, and I'm not sure if anything else in his bio is enough.Naraht (talk) 15:44, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Sabel Starr and Corel Shields

You have inaccurate information posted about Corel and the year she was born, which put her in bed with Iggy Pop at 13-14. Why the hell is it constructive to leave lies on Sabel Shields's (aka Sabel Starr) page? Nope, not gonna contribute to Wikipedia's requests for donations anymore, you also have some bogus information published about my late brother in law, who was in the band Social Distortion. search the name Corel Shields on Intelius, she was born in 1955, not 1959. You weren't there, I was. And the information you published is a LIE. What a joke, the loser here who basically informed me that the truth isn't relevant to Sabel's biography. IF YOU REFUSE TO PUBLISH THE TRUTH, THE INFORMATION ON THIS SITE IS NO MORE BELIEVABLE THAN THE TRASH FOUND IN THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER. WAY TO GO!!!

The donations go to the WikiMedia Foundation to maintain and run the WikiMedia servers. They do not go to Wikipedia editors and do not influence Wikipedia content in any way. JIP | Talk 15:54, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Based on research I have done, I have reason to believe that the information about Corel Shields is inaccurate, and so I have removed all mention of her from Sabel Starr on the grounds of WP:BLP policy. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 17:42, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

log in

   When i attempt to log in(I've changed my password), 

the system will not recognize me.....WHY?

Michael Burke — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:5AA0:1B20:10E4:3342:7AFA:3A9E (talk) 15:58, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Hello Michael Burke, what was the account's name? There is a user account named Michael Burke (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), which has never made an edit since its registration in 2013. If you do not remember the account name, folllow the procedure under Help:Logging in § What if I forget my username?. Victor Schmidt (talk) 16:39, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

question/user page

is it possible to/how would I go about customizing the wiki globe logo on my user page to WP20_EnWiki20_SimplifiedLogo_BillionEdits its the 20 anniversary version, thank you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 17:09, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

[[File:WP20_EnWiki20_SimplifiedLogo_BillionEdits.svg|thumb]] Placing the code as here on your page should do it, Ozzie10aaaa. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:14, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

thank you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 17:16, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Actually, that won't work if you mean to replace the logo top left. I was assuming you were a new user who just wanted to know how to place an image but I see that is far from the case as you've been around for a long time and must have wanted something more advanced! Apologies, Ozzie10aaaa. Mike Turnbull (talk) 17:20, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

no problem, thank you--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 22:21, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Our page was removed and it should not have been

Hi, Could you lease help us with a page that has been removed. It was for "Brendan P. Keegan". It was recently removed and the wiki editor we hired said. "someone removed it they placed a tag that he isn't notable and the article is promotional (which was not) and Wikipedia removed it. You may request the un-deletion of the page because when I published I am not if someone added anything to it later"

Please let me know what can be done.

Thanks, Jimmy Haines Merchants Fleet

Courtesy link: Brendan P. Keegan

@Jimmyhaines: Greetings, and welcome. Several different points to consider here:

• It is/was not "your page". It was an article about Mr. Keegan and neither you, he, or his company own the article or any of the content therein.
• I did not see the article prior to its deletion, and I am not an administrator and therefore cannot see deleted content, so I can't comment on the state of the article prior to its deletion. However, in general Wikipedia is not interested in what a subject has to say about itself. As an encyclopedia article, it needs to be sourced from reliable sources which are independent of the subject.
• As a matter of procedure, the place to request undeletion of an article is at Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion‎, and as a contested proposed deletion such a request would be perfectly in order. There is a certain amount of administrator discretion allowed here, and the request could be denied if the article is deemed to be overly promotional. Further, restoring the article would not exempt it from possibly getting nominated for (re-)deletion via the more formal Articles for Deletion process where the status of the article is put up for discussion by the community at large.

Hope this helps. Feel free to ask more questions. Thank you. --Finngall ^talk 17:43, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Noting for the record that the OP has been blocked as a sock of the article's original author, who in turn had been indef'd for promotional editing and likely UPE. --Finngall ^talk 18:29, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I was wondering about that. Why would a sock tell us that the original editor was a UPE? --ColinFine (talk) 19:57, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

please believe to ss. meaning forget about "Offkinglear" 'account'

let the USA prevail. please oh please forget about dre.

What is your question about editing Wikipedia? --ColinFine (talk) 18:20, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Mickey Cohen

I’ve read the page. There is inaccurate information. Rather than edit it, I would like it to be removed. I have been a law abiding member of the federal government. I’m still attached to it. I’m resentful of what it has done to me, a known relative of his.

Please remove and block all current and past editors from reinstall the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.250.194.10 (talk) 17:54, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia won't delete articles or block editors at a random person's behest. If there is something inaccurate, please discuss it as an edit request at the article's talk page, as you have a conflict of interest. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 18:08, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

False information about our company

Someone is labeling us as a "spamming" service on this page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArcaMax_Publishing ( I have just reversed that edit).

ArcaMax Publishing Inc is not and never has been a "spammer." Our business health relies on our reputation as dependable newsletter mailers for the past 20 years. Is the erroneous description is an intentional act by the editor to mis-categorize our business? This is libel. If it continues we may seek legal action against Wikipedia and the moderator/s who keep mis-labeling our company. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.183.132.12 (talk) 18:00, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

You need to read Wikipedia:No_legal_threats. If there is something wrong in the article, you can start a discussion on that article's talk page. RudolfRed (talk) 18:03, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

The article has been repeatedly vandalized by IPs to mark it as a "spamming" service, and reverting this vandalism is perfectly in bounds. There might very well be merit in a request to prevent anonymous users from editing the article for a while to forestall further vandalism, but keep in mind that you do not "own" the article. --Finngall ^talk 18:24, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

184.183, retract the legal threat or be blocked. You would have gotten the same result without trying to intimidate the same people who're trying to help you. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 21:16, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

The IP has a legitimate complaint. A company cannot be called a spammer or a scam without references to the highest quality reliable sources. I have semi-protected the article for three months because the disruption has gone on for months and comes from IP addresses. Notify me if disruption resumes. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 21:28, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

I'm not criticising the motive for their complaint; I'm criticising how they went about making the complaint. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 00:19, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Creating a Page for my Grandfather

Hi, I need to create a page for my late grandfather, he was a Journalist, translator and author. In the page we -the family- need to list his life & work. So, is this allowed ? Thanks, MM Genifox (talk) 18:22, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Genifox. I'm sorry about your grandfather. It is possible that Wikipedia could have an article about him, provided that he meets Wikipedia's crietira for notability - roughly, that there are enough reliable published sources, wholly independent of him, that talk about him, to ground an article on. As you have directly expressed your conflict of interest (to be frank, Wikipedia is not interested in what you need, only in its own needs as an encyclopaedia), you would be discouraged from creating it, but not forbidden. But please note that Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. This means that you would need to set aside everything that you know about him, unless it was corroborated by an independent published source.

If what you want is to get your grandfather's life and work into print, then Wikipedia is almost certainly not the place to do it. But if after these warnings you decide to try, please start by reading your first article. --ColinFine (talk) 19:15, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

Email confirmation

After changing my e-mail address, the web server said:

A confirmation email has been sent to the specified email address. Before any other email is sent to the account, you will have to follow the instructions in the email, to confirm that the account is actually yours.

The “confirmation” e-mail did arrive at the new address, but it contains no confirmation actions. Just what to do if the change is bogus. I guess doing nothing would be interpreted as confirmation, but it might be confusing to folks, especially if they’re not skilled in English.

You're doing better than me. I can't get the system to send me a confirmation e-mail at all! Elemimele (talk) 19:35, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

I just changed my email. It sent me a message which said to press the "Confirm email address" button, which I did. It then had me log in again, at which point I was told "Your email address has now been confirmed." Elemimele, maybe your confirmation went to your junk folder? Clarityfiend (talk) 20:11, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

After reading those response, I went to check whether my address had been changed. That page had a Confirm button that it did not have before. Clicking that generated an e-mail with different content, including a "Confirm email address" button, which did send me to a page saying the change had been made (without asking me to log in again. Weird. 伟思礼 (talk) 06:12, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Experienced editors needed

We could use some experienced editors at Surfside condominium building collapse. Even though this is a major event, very few editors with much experience are editing this article. It's going off the rails a bit. Thank you. Moncrief (talk) 22:17, 24 June 2021 (UTC)

• Imagine the trouble that would be saved if we imposed a three-month moratorium on current events. EEng 04:38, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

  Despite the chaos in the heat of the moment, it's much easier to write articles live than to try and do them several month after the event. Mjroots (talk) 07:04, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

  Sorry, but that makes no sense. The article has to be written several months after the event no matter what, in the sense that what's written in early days is a series of throwaways full of rumor, speculation, and misinformation, because that's what early sources are full of. The question, therefore, is not whether to replace the throwaways with a decent article months from now, but whether we'll invest large amounts of editor time, attention at the drama boards, and other resources in producing those temporary throwaways, or just let readers get current news directly from news sources. EEng 11:47, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

  @EEng: It does make sense. Stuff gets added, then refined/removed as newer info comes to light. Edit conflicts can be frustrating, but you just have to accept that they can happen. Look at the early edit history of Ryanair Flight 4978 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) and you will see what I mean. Mjroots (talk) 16:22, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

  Well, DUH, I'm quite aware of the process, and what you say doesn't address the senselessness of what you said. The edit conflicts, the frustration, the refinement and removal, the arguments over which of several conflicting sources to believe, the vandal fighting -- all of it, minute after minute, hour after hour, for days and weeks on end -- could just be skipped for the first week or two, and a calm, decent article written starting then, from rationalized, fairly comprehensive sources, instead of writing and rewriting and rewriting and vandal-fighting and editwarring and then rewriting some more. EEng 00:29, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Editors who are interested in the long-term state of Wikipedia will avoid such articles until a few months have passed. Those who enjoy the edit conflicts and other interactions, and take pride in being the first to find and cite a good new source, will start work right away. As an editor, I'm in the former group; but as a reader, I prefer a messy and volatile Wikipedia article to what I find in the news media. Maproom (talk) 08:07, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

June 25

List of 2022 albums

Can you fix the mistake i made on 2022 in albums please. 98.186.54.177 (talk) 00:58, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

 Done, if it's the row above the header row. Remember to double-check your colspan. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:33, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Edit button

Hi, for some reason, my edit button disappeared. Could you tell me how to fix it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Miao Lin 12138 (talk • contribs)

@Miao Lin 12138: Has it been replaced by "edit source"? Can you still enter editing with Alt+⇧ Shift+E or Alt+⇧ Shift+V? —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 13:02, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

@Miao Lin 12138: Are you using the Wikipedia desktop or mobile interfance, or the Wikipedia app? Could you please give an example of an unprotected page where you cannot see the edit button? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 15:56, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Bullet points not working within Template:Side box?

Hello,

I need some assistance with a template. Please check my sandbox for the problem. The three "Test"s in the box on the right are supposed to be bullet-pointed, but this isn't working. Any help is appreciated. Regards, DesertPipeline (talk) 08:46, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

I've changed the title to be more accurate, considering Template:Sister project invokes Template:Side box. DesertPipeline (talk) 10:58, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

@DesertPipeline: It looks like Module:Side box adds the "plainlist" CSS class (also used in {{plainlist}}, for instance) to its content (see generated HTML), which can't currently be turned off. As a temporary fix, you could write your list using HTML syntax and manually set the list style:

<ul style="list-style: inherit;">
<li>item one</li>
<li>item two</li>
<li>item three</li>
</ul>

But a better long-term solution would be to add a parameter to Module:Side box that allows "plainlist" to be turned off. – Rummskartoffel 16:53, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

User:Rummskartoffel: Thanks! I'm not very good at programming myself and I wouldn't want to mess up the code. Is there somewhere I could ask for someone to implement that parameter, or would you be able to do it? Regards, DesertPipeline (talk) 02:46, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Edit re aircraft incident 1981 Canada

I guess I messed up with addition of article. I don't hava a referrence . Verbally from DOT thatbwe were second plane to survive. Almost 40 years ago but I clearly remember piñot swerving and yelling at me to shut the cabin door. I replied" There is no fing door and get this plane on the ground in one piece - that is what is left of it. Icouldn¿t see how to add to atalk apage of reviewer of my article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sleibhin1 (talk • contribs)

@Sleibhin1: Unfortunately, Wikipedia requires that almost everything is cited. If the accident hasn't been talked about from a reliable source, it can't go on Wikipedia, which is why someone else removed it. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 13:09, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

@Sleibhin1: what you added amounts to original research, which is why it was removed. No major harm done. Mjroots (talk) 16:16, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Restoring information Dmitry Lesnevsky

Dear Sir/Madam.

I do see you remove the Wikipedia text of Dmitry Lesnevsky (Dmitry Lesnevsky). Sending this letter as a complaint about the unlawful removal of content that is absolutely truthful and confirmed by open sources. All information was confirmed by your editor. Could you please restore all information about Dmitry Lesnevskiy and lock it for any future removal.— Preceding unsigned comment added by DanielChaisson (talk • contribs)

DanielChaisson First, please be aware of no legal threats. Regarding your question, the information was removed because it violated the strict biographies of living persons policy as being completely unsourced. It doesn't matter if the information is "true" or not as we can't just take your word for it, it must be sourced to an independent reliable source for verification purposes. If you have an independent source or sources for the information, please offer them at Talk:Dmitry Lesnevsky.

If you are associated with him in some way, please review conflict of interest. 331dot (talk) 09:32, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Also, Wikipedia editors decide for themselves whether an article should be locked. The subject of the article has no say in the matter. Wikipedia is written for the purpose of its readers, not on the article subjects' beck and call. It is very rare that articles are locked on Wikipedia, usually because they are targets of frequent vandalism. JIP | Talk 16:01, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

TV documentaries and news segments as source

I have two questions about sourcing:

1. Is it allowed to use old TV broadcasts of documentaries or news segments as inline-citation source that are no longer available as a video clip on the broadcaster's website? One of the broadcasts I'd like to use is the following: グッド！モーニング (Good! Morning) aired on TV Asahi (Japan) on November 5, 2014, 4:55-8:00 AM (local time). The program is listed on Kakaku.com (first entry), but the information itself that I want to source is not mentioned there. I have a private recording of the news segment, but uploading or linking it would probably violate Wikipedia's policy.
2. If it's allowed to use the source, which citation template do I have to use and which information are mandatory to include in the reference?

Thank you very much in advance! Henni147 (talk) 11:41, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

@Henni147: Uploading archived footage of a copyright program to YouTube and then linking to it could be a copyright violation. This is a little out of my area of expertise, but you can read more here: WP:YOUTUBE. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 20:05, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

@Timtempleton: Thank you very much for your response. Yes, I wanted to avoid an upload on YT, Twitter or any other platform particularly for that reason. My question is rather, if it's allowed/ possible to cite a TV news segment or documentary similar to a magazine or book, just not with an ISBN but a broadcast ID or something similar. Henni147 (talk) 20:22, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

I don't know any policy to the contrary, so I'd say just go for it. Worst thing that can happen is someone reverts you and you have to discuss with them before adding it again. As for citation templates, you're not required to use any, but I think {{cite AV media}} may be what you're looking for. – Rummskartoffel 20:29, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

@Rummskartoffel: Okay, thanks. I will use that one and try to be as precise with the sourcing as possible. Henni147 (talk) 20:44, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

DAB: Karen M. Fischer / Death of Karen Fischer and Christian Struwe

I just finished moving Karen M. Fischer to the mainspace, but I am not certain how to handle the disambiguation page. The Karen M. Fischer page is about a scientist. Right now 'Karen Fischer' redirects to Death of Karen Fischer and Christian Struwe. That page is a combination of an article about an event (the death) and biographies of Fischer and Struwe. This raises a few questions that I don't know how to handle. (1) Just listing the two Karen Fischer's on a DAB page is easy enough, but what should happen to the redirect? (2) Should there be a different page just for Karen Fischer (the journalist) to distinguish it from the one I just finished (Karen Fisher, scientist)? (3) Are there other issues I have missed here? Thanks in advance. --DaffodilOcean (talk) 12:15, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

@DaffodilOcean: You could change the Karen Fischer page from being a redirect to a disambiguation page that links to Death of Karen Fischer and Christian Struwe, Karen M. Fischer, Karen Fisher, etc. GoingBatty (talk) 15:51, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, but I need a little clarification @GoingBatty: by this you mean just edit the page that is currently sitting at Karen Fischer? --DaffodilOcean (talk) 16:34, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

That's right, DaffodilOcean. Go to Karen Fischer, then pick where it says "(Redirected from Karen Fischer)" at the top, and it will take you to the redirection page itself. You can edit it in the normal way, and turn it into a DAB page. See WP:DAB and MOS:DAB for details. --ColinFine (talk) 16:47, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

I think I got most of this, but I also think I erred in first moving the page to Karen Fischer (disambiguation). I am now hesitant to move it again for fear of making some really crazy circular loop. Can someone please take a look at the DAB page, and perhaps also the hatnotes I put at the top of the two other pages in question (Karen M. Fischer and Death of Karen Fischer and Christian Struwe to make sure I have done this all OK? Thanks. --DaffodilOcean (talk) 17:12, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

 Done. Just moved the target page into the redirect. It should be all good now, DaffodilOcean. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 17:34, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Sara Ramirez's Wikipedia Page and Infobox Images

So I updated the infobox image of Sara Ramirez because 1) having an outdated image of a person on their wikipage is annoying and 2) I know when I look back at photos of me from before my gender identity change I feel dysphoric and maybe that's not the case for Sara, we may never know, but I think the main photos on information pages should reflect their current appearance.

A user Serols reverted this change claiming it "did not appear constructive" but keeping images of people up to date is good practice and it seems to me like they only reverted this change due bigotry.

Maybe an updated image isn't as important as listing everything they've been in and new information about the person in question, but not changing it seems lazy at best and offensive at worst. Maybe not all images need to be updated if the person looks basically the same but when there's a huge difference in appearance or age it's important.

Sara Ramirez's page isn't the only one that needs to be updated. Elliot Page's Page is another and there's probably a lot more that I haven't seen.— Preceding unsigned comment added by TransDragon (talk • contribs)

TransDragon Wikipedia has articles, not "wikipages". It is true that the infobox image should reflect the most recent appearance if possible in many(though not all) cases- but it must be done in the proper manner, . Please don't assign motives to other editors that you cannot know, you aren't inside their heads. That something was removed is not in and of itself a sign of bigotry. The caption was problematic, and there could be copyright/licensing issues with the professional image that you attempted to place in the article. It isn't as simple as just grabbing an image off the internet somewhere. Please discuss your concerns on the article talk page. We can't just vaporize the imagery that existed of a person before their appearance changed and pretend that it never existed. 331dot (talk) 12:54, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Also, the image can only be changed if there is a newer photo that complies with Wikipedia:Image policy- in particular, it has to meet certain licencing requirements, that allow reuse by anyone. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:12, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

They're both on Commons so they're both equally OK. I mushed the two photos into one image so hopefully this will be satisfactory to all (I believe (not sure) that this could have been done on the page, using the "photo1a" and "photo2a" fields.) Herostratus (talk) 23:08, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Date of birth of Arnold Majewski

The sources for Arnold Majewski give two dates for his birth: 29 November 1892 and 11 December 1892. This is probably because Majewski was born in 1892 in Tallinn, Russian Empire, which had not yet adapted the Gregorian calendar at the time. How should this be marked in the article? JIP | Talk 14:01, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

JIP There is a Template:OldStyleDate, which can be used to list the Old Style and New Style dates of their birth. It looks like you've already found that template and updated the article. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:16, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I copied its usage from Grigori Rasputin. JIP | Talk 14:17, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

How to create the side table (right side with abstract detail)?

How to create the side table (right side with abstract detail)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ShUSP 01 (talk • contribs) 16:45, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

It's called an infobox, ShUSP 01: there are hundreds of different ones for different kinds of subject. The easiest way to find the right one is often to find a different article on a subject of the same kind that already has an infobox, Edit (or Edit source) that article and copy the entire section at the top that starts

{{infobox  something

down to the matching

}}

Paste that into the article you are working on, and replace the parameters as appropriate. You will usually find the parameters explained at [[Template:infobox something]]. --ColinFine (talk) 16:53, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by ShUSP 01 (talk • contribs) 20:02, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

Use of picture on Wikipedia

There is a picture I would want to use in a Wikipedia article: https://sotaveteraanit.fi/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Majewskin-viimeiset-hetket_600.jpg

It is from this page: https://sotaveteraanit.fi/tag/arnold-majewski/. Shown here, standing, with his back to the camera, is Finnish military hero Arnold Majewski during the Continuation War, only moments before he was shot by a Soviet sniper.

I think this would be a good thing to use to illustrate the article about him. Would the image be of use there? And if so, can I upload the image to Wikipedia and/or Commons? The image itself is over 70 years old but I don't know who the photographer was and if he is still alive. JIP | Talk 18:17, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

@JIP: If you don't get an answer here, try WP:MCQ where copyright experts answer questions. RudolfRed (talk) 18:59, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

After reading the cited source, it turns out that the name of the photographer was Ilmari Laukkonen. However, I have not yet found out when he died, or if by some miracle he is still alive. JIP | Talk 02:56, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Googling for "Ilmari Laukkonen" mostly finds results about famous Finnish magazine editor Ilmari Laukkonen, who died in 2013 and has an article on the Finnish Wikipedia. But I don't know if it's the same Ilmari Laukkonen. JIP | Talk 10:36, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

@JIP:, it seems likely to be the same man. The source says "TK man Ilmari Laukkonen" and TK probably means TK-komppania, ie army propaganda, an appropriate role for a journalist. TSventon (talk) 10:56, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

would like to add content to a list but don't want to mess up

i found another contributor to the list of EM solvers here : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_EM_simulation_software

and would like to add another FEM solver here ; https://www.cenos-platform.com/antenna-design

but am afraid of messing up since i don't have good editing skills.

@Paclogic: Per page guidelines, you won't be able to add Cenos to the EM page unless they have an article, and based on a quick Google search, that's unlikely. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 23:49, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

do you mean like this as an article : https://www.everythingrf.com/News/details/12291-cenos-introduces-an-affordable-easy-to-use-simulation-software-for-antenna-design Paclogic (talk) 00:41, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

or possibly this article : https://www.mwrf.com/technologies/software/article/21163550/microwaves-rf-cenos-seeks-to-democratize-antenna-simulation Paclogic (talk) 00:44, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

@Paclogic: No, not a press release, TimTempleton means an article on Wikipedia. Please read the first sentence in the Comparison of EM simulation software article, which begins The following table lists software packages with their own article on Wikipedia ... CodeTalker (talk) 02:10, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

okay i get it ! more or less this table is only related to the specific article and is useless beyond the article. So unless i can find a similar comparison article on EM field solvers with the Cenos product mentioned, then i can create a new one for the comparison. Too bad; i thought that this was a generic table, but it biased based upon the samples and time of publication. It doesn't keep current with industry changes. I will whave to keep this perspective in mind any time i see any form of tabulation of data, specifically on software comparisons. Paclogic (talk) 02:59, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

No, Paclogic, it's not about "the specific article", nor is it about being "based opon the samples and time of publication". It is based on notability, in the special sense that Wikipedia uses the word: broadly, a subject is notable if several people wholly unconnected with the subject have chosen to publish at some length about it in reliable places. Unless and until a subject - say, some software - meets those criteria, then Wikipedia is not interested in it, either in an article of its own, or in a list of items. If Cenos meets those criteria (or the specific ones for software), then somebody can write a Wikipedia article about it (remembering that Wikipedia is basically not interested in anything that the developers or promotoers of the software say or want to say about it, only in independent commentary about it), and then it can be added to lists such as the one you mention. --ColinFine (talk) 11:06, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

i have added (2) independent and extremely well recognized industry sources and if that doesn't meet the 'respectability' of wikipedia, i don't know what you are referring to [please cite more specific details] . thanks ! Paclogic (talk) 17:30, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

June 26

1939 and 1940 sec regular season champions for alabama basketball

Hi, I think you should add alabama basketball 1939 and 1940 sec regular season titles on their wikipedia page under conference regular season titles since they are shown on the sec basketball champions homepage and remove their 1934 sec regular season title and keep their 1934 sec tournament title since they won it.

            Thank you 
            Rohan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rrkulka (talk • contribs) 01:21, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

@Rrkulka: I suggest you post your request on Talk:Alabama Crimson Tide men's basketball, along with a reliable source, and hopefully another editor will be able to assist you. Happy editing! (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) GoingBatty (talk) 04:04, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

how to create article page for dance educational institute

Dear Sir, I need guidance on how to put wikipedia page of dance education institute in wikipedia ?

Start by finding at least three reliable independent published sources which discuss the institute in depth ("independent" means, not written by the institute or its employees, not based on its press releases, not based on interviews with its representatives). Then write a draft based on what these sources say, citing them as you go. Maproom (talk) 10:01, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Kanak Rele. To add to Maproom's answer: Wikipedia is not a place to tell the world about yourself or your projects. Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. So only if such sources exist about the dance school will it be possible to create an article about it: the article will not belong to the school, will not be under the control of the school, and won't necessarily say what the school would like it to say, as it should be based almost 100% on what independent people have published about the school, not on what the school says or wants to say.

Furthermore, creating a new article that is accepted is very very hard for inexperienced editors. If your school meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability, then somebody will create an article about it.

If you wish to go ahead after this caution, then please start by determining whether it meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability (which is what Maproom's answer is about). If it does not, give up. If it does, then read your first article, and be prepared for a gruelling and frustrating time as you put aside everything you know about the school and try to write a neutral, non-promotional draft based on what the independent sources say. --ColinFine (talk) 11:16, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Getting A Wikipedia Page

Greetings, and I have a question. How do I obtain a Wikipedia page for myself? I am an active practicing poet since high school. Have written ten books, and received numerous awards. Your response will be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much.

Sincerely yours, Ambassador, Professor, Dr. Joseph S. Spence Sr., (Epulaeryu Master)! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:6000:B308:A300:20FD:CB38:4CB2:1581 (talk) 07:50, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia does not have mere "pages", it has articles. Those articles are typically written by independent editors, and they summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a person, showing how they meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable person(or in your case a notable writer. If you meet that definition, independent editors will take note of your career and choose to write about you. Trying to force the issue by writing about yourself isn't always the best course of action. While not forbidden, autobiographical articles are strongly discouraged, in part because people naturally write favorably about themselves. To be successful in writing about yourself on Wikipedia, you would need to set aside everything you know about yourself and only write based on what others have said about you; most people have great difficulty doing that. Please see Your First Article for more information.

Note that a Wikipedia article is not necessarily desirable. There are good reasons to not want one. 331dot (talk) 10:08, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Claimed free license

Can I upload a claimed free license files to wikipedia? claimed free license is I have found a files published by free license but I also found other source that has copyright statement as same as copyright law, Can I use it to wikipedia? For example, a photo release under free license but I found other sources of same photo isn't.Hmht45tgree3d (talk) 08:54, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

@Hmht45tgree3d: Do you have a particular image in mind? If two sources disagree about the licensing of a particular image, you have to do your own analysis. The experts are at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions, if you need help. Victor Schmidt (talk) 08:57, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

@Hmht45tgree3d: There are three possibilities: 1) The non-free version was improperly copied to create the "free" version. 2) The "free" version was improperly copied to create the non-free version. 3) The copyright owner, perfectly leagally, created both version. You must try (hard) to figure out what happened. If (1), we cannot use it. if (2) or (3), we can use it. -Arch dude (talk) 16:01, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

I mean non-free version was improperly copied to create the "free" version at websites out of Wikimedia source, claimed to copyright holder actually copyright infringement. e.g. a photo on Flickr claimed it is release under CC-by-sa, but nobody knows it actually a copyright infringement without original author's permission.Hmht45tgree3d (talk) 16:22, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Praying for published my article as soon as possible

Hi, I am Hanna Shanar, a doctor and I wrote an article for posting on Wikipedia. It shows that it will take 5 months to publish. I am going to publish a new book So that I need a knowledge panel for my profile. Please publish my article within 1 day. Thank you— Preceding unsigned comment added by Hanna Shanar (talk • contribs) 14:30, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Hi Hanna Shanar, if you are looking for a place to publish your own profile then Wikipedia is not the right place unfortunately. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia with articles about people that meet Wikipedia's notability standards. Your draft for an article has already been reviewed and declined as there's no sources that would indicate that you do meet these guidelines currently. This might be a classic case of WP:TOOSOON. Also, writing autobiographies is strongly discouraged, so once there is significant coverage it's best to not write the article yourself as well. Someone else will eventually notice you, and write an article.– NJD-DE (talk) 14:45, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

@Hanna Shanar I'd rather like a Ferrari. I'm not going to get one any time soon, and there is Wikipedia:There is no deadline to read. Please write your own knowledge panel for your own book. If you believe that Wikipedia will enhance your authorship reputation please think again. Wikipedia adds no value to you. You must add value to Wikipedia. Passing Wikipedia:NAUTHOR does that. Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 14:50, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

• Hanna Shanar To be frank, Wikipedia has no interest in enhancing search results for you or in enhancing your Google knowledge panel. Those are side benefits, not our primary goal. This is a volunteer project which is only concerned with whether or not subjects meet the special Wikipedia definition of notability(as mentioned by Timtrent above). A review could take place in 5 months, in less time, or in more time. There is no way to predict it. There are thousands of drafts pending review and a limited number of volunteer reviewers. Please see WP:PROMO. 331dot (talk) 14:59, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
• The draft has been speedy deleted as promotional. 331dot (talk) 15:03, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

  @331dot Reverse Streisand effect?

  @Hanna Shanar Once you or your book is notable, please let someone else write articles on both things. Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 15:07, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Could be. :) 331dot (talk) 15:08, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Non-free logo

What is the recommended pixels size for non-free logo? I have uploaded a 509×509 pixels non-free logo here. Can someone check and review it? Qat Sad (talk) 14:38, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

@Qat Sad with non free items the lowest practical resolution which allows the item to be used is required. SInce it is substantially smaller where it is deployed may I suggest that you reduce the size to match the article you have used ity on. We ask for wise pragmatism,. You have displayed this by asking the question Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 14:44, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

@Qat Sad There is a template {{Non-free reduce}} that I have added to the page. In most cases this will happen automagically on your behalf. I've used it myself, once with a surprising result that the image was embiggened, not ensmallened. Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 15:57, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

@Timtrent: okay... Qat Sad (talk) 16:35, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Non-article qu.

Is there a place on the page on cross searching categories? Thanks. Ema--or (talk) 17:24, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Hello Ema--or. I'm not sure what you mean, but does Petscan help? --ColinFine (talk) 18:18, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

How to clear Wikipedia search history

This is a bit odd, but I'm having a technical issue. Wikipedia seems to have memorized a list of six searches I previously carried out on Wikipedia, and displays them to me when I click into the Search box. Once I start typing, it goes to the regular suggestions, but when there's nothing typed into the box yet, the "search history" pops up below.

I'm 98% sure this isn't due to browser cookies - I've cleared all my cookies for all Wikimedia projects from Chrome twice now, and it still happens. I cannot find a Wikipedia setting that is causing this or way to clear it. Oddly, the six searches that appear seem to be static - it's been the same six popping up for the past year or more. How can I clear this and get Wikipedia to "forget" that I've made these searches? Thanks for the help! Ganesha811 (talk) 17:41, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

For reference, this is what it looks like (https://ibb.co/cwnfKVP) - I've crossed out a few that would be personally identifying. The pop-up is oddly inconsistent, appearing about 30% of the time I click into the search box, no matter what page I'm on. Ganesha811 (talk) 17:47, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

@Ganesha811: Search Histories In Chrome can't be cleared that easely, as they are saved into the google account (if Chrome knows it...) There are a few suggestions in this support thread Victor Schmidt (talk) 19:20, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

I am pretty sure that if you log out, clear your browser history, and log back in this will dissapear. I am 99% sure Wikipedia itself doesn't save your search information. If it turns out I am wrong, let me know and I will raise hell about it. --Guy Macon (talk) 19:27, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Guy Macon, Victor Schmidt, thanks for your help. I cleared the cache, browser history, *all cookies*, and autofill data excluding passwords in Chrome, and that seems to have done it. I did have to log out and back in before it applied, though. Ganesha811 (talk) 19:36, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Problem with subheadings

Hi,

I edited this article [3] to add a new entry to the first table.

For some reason I can't understand, the subheading "Under construction or proposed" has been moved to be before the first table, instead of after it (where it was originally).

In the editing window it appears to be in the right place. Why does it now appear in the wrong place and how do I fix this?

Thanks, Mark