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Teaching of Jesus about little children

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Article fails WP:GNG for lack of independent non-trivial sourcing. User:Namiba 14:47, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. User:Namiba 14:47, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Seriously? Can anyone familiar with the Western tradition even assert with a straight face that this topic fails WP:GNG? I suspect a WP:CIR fail here, and that's not trying to be ad hominem, just entirely mystified about how anyone could think this nomination makes sense, regardless of the lack of documented RS'es in the article. Jclemens (talk) 14:50, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's also a WP:SYNTHESIS until you prove that there are multiple, independent, non-trivial sources on the topic. You can claim whatever you like about myself, but you also haven't provided any evidence.--User:Namiba 15:21, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bible-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:30, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I'm not experienced in researching topics about the Bible, but God has clearly failed me in my searches for good coverage about this. This regular Google search just gives you a bunch of blogs (of which the reliability I don't know of) only mentioning the time Jesus talked about children, and blogs and legitimate sources like Christianity Today talking about the line "Jesus Loves the Little Children" (and man, would that sound creepy out of context), which isn't a line from the Bible but from a hymn C. Herbert Woolston wrote. GBooks just gives me a bunch of bizarre children's book that use that line as their titles, and thus establishes no notability for this topic. Only one result in this Google Scholar cites the passages currently in the wiki, and the rest talk about different Jesus topics while only using the phrase "little children" not to talk about these passages. I may change my !vote to a Weak keep if this thesis qualifies as academic coverage that establishes notability. 👨x🐱 (talk) 18:57, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that qualifies as academic coverage since the bibliography has zero academic sources.--User:Namiba 19:39, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep; a Google search will produce a phenomenal number of hits for this, because it is a key concept in Christianity, and seen as important by a huge range of Christian churches. Of course it's easy to write off all of these sources as biased or primary, but you have to ask yourself whether the sheer number of them, and their range, hints at the notability of the subject. But for those who want unbiased sources, here's a BBC-bite-sized-guide revision topic on one of the Jesus/little-children stories[1], which shows that the subject is worthy of exam syllabuses; here's a study-guide from a multi-faith site with no particular alliance to Christianity, as evidence that Jesus' teaching about little children is seen as a notable feature to those studying world religions [2], and as just one example of the thousands produced by Christian organisations, here's the Taizé organisation's take on it (Taizé are well-known and well-respected) [3]. I'm not saying the article is perfect (it could certainly do with referencing) but to delete it as not notable (that's what GNG is) would be jaw-droppingly weird, to the extent that this Afd feels like it might be intended to make a point. Elemimele (talk) 20:09, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]