Talk:The Wheel (game show)

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Sidemen adaptation

Special:Contributions/81.156.5.154, you recently restored disputed content. Please see WP:ONUS for an explanation of why you should advocate for your addition and convince other editors before repeating the edit. My objection is that YouTube videos are generally not a reliable source. We rely on reliable sources to (a) tell us what is true and (b) tell us what is important. I have no doubt that the video is sufficient proof of truth, that the Sidemen are using the set from the show. However, we need a reliable, secondary source reporting on the video to show us that it's important enough for inclusion in this article. Firefangledfeathers (talk) 00:52, 6 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with everything Firefangledfeathers said above. The YouTube video is what is called a primary source - it proves the existence of the show, that is all. Wikipedia needs reliable secondary sources that have a good track history of editorial control and fact checking. Social media, blogs and Wikis (e.g. Wikitubia -The YouTube Wiki) are not reliable because they are self-published or, in the case of wikis, anyone can edit them. - X201 (talk) 07:54, 6 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Would The Global Herald (an online newspaper) paired with the BBC's YouTube video be a suitable secondary source? It corroborates the fact that the Sidemen did indeed use the set, and provides further information on the BBC as a source. On another note, hopefully the presenter (Stephen Tries) will have gained enough traction from this special episode to kick off a career in mainstream TV. If this is the case, at some point in the future (when he has a dedicated Wikipedia page) it may be worth pointing to this adaptation as the start of his mainstream career. — 86.170.36.138 (talk) 17:56, 10 August 2021 (UTC) (previously: 81.156.5.154).[reply]