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Vandalism: Sneaky

Everyone hates McDonald's, but this has gotten out of hand. Someone has removed many links to other pages, reducing them down to 3, and turning HALF THE ARTICLE into the "Criticisms" section. AND THEN, in the Advertising section, THEY LIST MCDONALD'S FAULTS in the "sell your shirts" and the "fresh fries". THIS IS VANDALISM! Eventually, I will repair this article using many edits, but this has gotten OUT OF HAND! If you want to pick a bone with TheListUpdater then go HERE!!! TheListUpdater 17:52, 7 January 2007 (UTC) I agree, kick the vandals out! --Homer slips. 04:08, 10 January 2007 (UTC) People are over weight because the CHOSE to eat at McDonalds.Its our own fault! User:EnsignLovel[reply]

McNuggets

I notice at the bottom where it gives the characters, there isn't any for the McNuggets. I'm pretty sure there were characters made for them back when? If so isn't there any info about them or if there is should it be added to the character area?

This article mentions nothing about the case where a guy pretending to be a cop calls and over the phone tells the employers to strip search employees. It was on Nightline or Dateline or something. -Yancyfry 04:48, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The fact that the mcdonalds believed that they had the rights to do something like strip search an employee is the big problem, I mean its terible that the manager was so ignorant. EnsignLovel

"Maccas"

Ansett (talk · contribs) keeps re-inserting the slang term "Maccas" into the head of the article. I can find no evidence whatsoever that this is an official name of the company, and hence, do not believe it belongs in the article at all, much less in the head. Any comments? Erik Swanson 07:27, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Giving Ansett (talk · contribs) the benefit of the doubt, I assume "Maccas" is a local name for the restaurant. However, it is clearly not the legal and offical name of the company as Erik Swanson (talk · contribs) notes above. It should not be in the article. ND Conservative 06:59, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

To validate ((user|Ansett))'s contribution, Maccas is actually a colloquial term used for McDonald's. I know it is used fairly frequently atleast in Australia. 12.106.111.10 22:57, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

As I presumed, however it is not equivalent to the legal entity known as the McDonald's Corporation. Ansett (talk · contribs)'s information could be included in a "McDonald's around the World" section that would include the dozen of local names for McDonald's restaurants. ND Conservative 20:40, 7 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Maccas" is mainly used down here in Australia. Being a Maccas employee, I have seen the company actually use the term. I can try to find evidence that they do use the word, but I may have trouble finding it. - Vicer 07:25, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just to add on, I managed to find some evidence that the company uses the term "Maccas". http://makeupyourownmind.com.au/ - Watch the intro and the girl will say "maccas". Also, go to the "Front Counter" Section of the site and click on "Working at Maccas". I will try to locate more evidence. - Vicer 07:30, 8 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm convinced it's a common term for the company, but that page still has "© 2006 McDonald's Australia" (emphasis added) at the bottom. It would definitely belong in a section about worldwide differences in the resturants, or a laundry list of slang terms for McDoanalds. However, because it's not the legal name of the corporation, I don't believe it belongs in the head of the article. Erik Swanson 03:06, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've just sent a message to the company here in Australia asking if it is the legal name of the corporation. If need be I am prepared to send one to the US McDonald's. I should get a response within the week, and when I do, I'll post the outcome. BTW, I didn't say it should be in the head of the article. Maybe a redirection would be fine. - Vicer 10:04, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for looking into this Vicer. I suspect they will acknowledge that, while McDonald's is probably a registered corporation in every country in which they have a franchise, possibly under names such as McDonald's Australia, we will be able to conclude that McDonald's Corporation is the legal mother entity of all franchises and regional legal names. And secondly, there should be a section reflecting the regional nuances of McDonalds, both domestic and international, such as menu items, common names, unique business practices (I'd be particularly interested to hear how McDonald's operate in Muslim countries, or in China). ND Conservative 16:48, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No problem mate. I just got the response from McDonald's Australia a few minutes ago.

Dear Axel,

Thank you for your email. We can confirm that the term "Maccas" is a registered trademark of McDonald?s Corporation.

Thank you for your inquiry

Regards,
|Removed name|
McDonald's Customer Service

There's our answer - Vicer 07:11, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Companies register nicknames as a matter of course, for legal reasons, without any intent that they are to become an official name. "Maccas" is not a worldwide name for the company, just a slang term for it in a single country. ProhibitOnions ^(T) 09:47, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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I Don't think it really matters that much, right? Its just a name. Its is the registered trademark of McDonalds Austrailia. I went to their web site from their austrailian Branches and I found that they call them selves Maccas a lot. And as it said above McDonalds Austrailia made it their trademark for legal reasons and it really is just a slang word for McDonalds. User:EnsignLovel

Precisely. A similar instance was when McD's trademarked the name "Mickey D's" in the U.S. in the 1980s, after it had become a common slang term, and used it in a few commercials. It didn't change the name of the restaurant at all, and the name "Mickey D's" would not be used in formal writing to describe the company.

The reasons why such names are trademarked should be obvious. Besides offering a cute/hip/friendly alternative term for use in advertising, this also protects the company from negative use of a widely understood nickname; no one can then market, say, "Mickey D's brand desiccated horse manure" or start "Maccas Fat Farm" - and it means the likes of stand-up comics would not be able to libel the company with impunity by use of the other term.

The article did previously contain a list of slang terms for McDonald's (such as the above and "McDo" in French, the less complimentary "McDoof" in German, etc.), but this became a target for vandalism and was essentially unverifiable ("McFuck" in Polish? Very funny.). ProhibitOnions ^(T) 15:08, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Criticisms Section

It's gone, disappeared. Someone look into it please. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Angrynight (talk • contribs) 21:29, 5 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]

I fixed it, or tried to. Subsequent editors failed to do a complete reversion after an IP address vandal mucked with it earlier today, or yesterday, or whatever. Wahkeenah 00:45, 6 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Trivia.

Someone took out a big chunk of trivia. I think the amount of food purchased should go back in. What else? --Gbleem 13:11, 3 January 2007 (UTC) -[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[] Ask your self this , it takes roughly 30 minuts to make a heathly and tasty meal at home, if it takes only that much time, why would you need to go to McDonalds. it should be blindingly obvious that you don't need McDonalds. EnsignLovel[reply]

Apparent Health problems.

Obesity is usualy conected to Maccas, but is it realy true that kids can become this fat on Mc produce? The film 'Super-size me!' only helped premote the Mc health fears. This neads a seriouse debate on the subject.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Homer slips. (talk • contribs) 04:04, 10 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]

--Homer slips. 04:05, 10 January 2007 (UTC) I think every body who is interested in the facts should really not go to McDonalds the web site its not the greatest place to look. What they do is they take a SAMPLE of their food, and they post how much callories there are in the SAMPLE on their site and fat people think McDonalds has changed and they think its all right to keep going there. They chose to tell a portion of the truth. --[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-[]-- Its True that Maccas is unsuited for their "We are a healthy place to eat" slogan they had running a while ago. also, not so sure they should even say their salads are healthy, because their only healthy in some aspects, A their salads have some nutritious parts about them like the green parts, but B they put greacy chicken in their too. Also their dressings taste good but they are jam packed with calories and fats. User:EnsignLovel[reply]

How Many Are There?

How many McDonalds are there? I heard there are more Subways in the US, but neither page has the numbers to compare (Subway page does list total # of Subways worldwide).

There are over 31 000 McDonalds world wide. And there are around 2 000 in Canada alone. Out of 170 countries there are 119 countries that have McDonalds living there. So that basicaly makes it imposible not visit one at least once in your life.(McDonalds also has pages listing # of Mcdonalds worldwide). In New York City there are more McDonalds There are hospitals in newfoundland.I know CRAZY. Theres also many McDonalds in hospitals all over the world. The one place McDonalds sends you to if you eat to much of it (if you've seen super size me) is where you can continue to eat their food! User:EnsignLovel

the shrub picture

okay, i deleted the picture of the shrub in the criticisms section has violating WP:NPOV... although i've got to say "kudos" to whoever came up with it. i laughed my ass off. really. -- frymaster 04:59, 24 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't realize that was a joke. I thought it was serious and I thought it was stupid that anyone would think that makes up for the crap McD's does. So it was supposed to be tounge-in-cheek? I guess I can see that. Ungovernable Force^{Poll: Which religious text should I read?} 05:15, 24 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I put it back, with a neutral caption. I might have posted the joke way back when, for some specific reason that I've forgotten. It might just have been the middle of the night. I'm trying to be more respectful of wikipedia nowadays, but sometimes the Evil Editor takes over, especially late at night when everything starts to seem funny. >:) It's a nice bush, in any case. :) Wahkeenah 05:37, 24 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There's nothing quite like confessing to something I didn't do. That picture as well as the original caption were actually posted by Brian Katt on June 27, 2006. So it's hard to tell if he was serious. I wouldn't bet the family jewels on it. Wahkeenah 05:51, 24 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

And Gruffle Gaw fixed some erroneous grammar on 9/14/06. Now I'm jealous. I wish I'd thought of it. :) Wahkeenah 05:59, 24 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Subliminal Ad on Food Network

http://youtube.com/watch?v=N3q5bh75m9k http://youtube.com/watch?v=LMzbwa6PvEE http://youtube.com/watch?v=amnZX-jjBD8 There should be something in this article about this terrible move by mcdonalds. REscano 08:19, 24 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree. If you read into it further, the clip was only 1 frame long, which is 1/30th of a second. If it was subliminal, it would have been for a couple of frames so you could have actually grasped what you had seen. Since it was at the end of a Food Network episode, experts in the advertisment field for TV networks say it was a glitch of an ad starting to early and then being cut off, which can and has happened before in the television industry. Its just that this person captured it and claimed it was subliminal.

"Can and has happened before" is understating it. I see it every day on cable TV. A "national" ad for some product will start, and a "local" ad will jump in and take its place. Many myths have started by misinterpretations like that. Wahkeenah 11:15, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No Anon, it was subliminal. Even though its hard to grasp it, your brain does register it. I say we add it Toasty! | Available at your local store 19:24, 28 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

user talk

I Think making a page where people can post their thoughts and questions would be a good Idea so help me out here. EnsignLovel

I think thats a good idea Silver2007

another section needs to be included about the new call center drive up window operator that takes the order