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Nickname

"Satan's Foyer" 'is' an actual Louisville nickname in some circles. Evn ashe 01:35, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, that's really just hearsay and we could generate an infinite number of supposed actual nicknames that way. See our policy on verifiability, you'll need to cite a reliably published source saying that nickname is of some meaningful level of usage. --W.marsh 04:21, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Edit war: IP dude and Stevietheman, knock it off please. You keep changing the spelling of one of the nicknames back and forth, and I really can't see that it's making much of a difference. You're both way past the three-revert rule and might be at risk of getting blocked if you keep it up. Chill! Hersfold 23:13, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ummm, hadn't you noticed this anon's vandalizing history? OK, instead of reverting, I will put a cite requirement on it, so it can be proved either way. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 23:15, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ditto, it's strange that Hersfold did not bother to look up the IPusers vandalising history early-on. As a new user, I would suggest checking up on the user contributions for this vandal and 76.177.18.83. The latter has been blocked for a short time. Seicer (talk) (contribs) 23:22, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I did a Google search, and the Urban dictionary shows it as "Da Ville" without the apostrophe. Also, the vast majority of Google results using "da ville" Louisville -wikipedia don't include the apostrophe in the nickname. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 23:34, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Seicer, for your information, I did notice the vandal templates on the IP's talk page; they were rather hard to miss. However, I find it strange that an experienced user such as yourself doesn't realize that an edit war is just as damaging to Wikipedia as simple vandalism. Stevie and IP going back and forth took up half a page in the history log, and all over a single apostrophe. All we have to show for our efforts now is a semi-protected article. Wikipedia has been criticized in the past for it's protection policies, and edit wars such as this one don't help that at all. I'm glad that this is over now, however, and hopefully we can all go back to making useful contributions. Hersfold 23:42, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If this was the first change by the anon, I would agree with you. I'm sad to say that, on this, you're off base. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 23:46, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ditto. The IP user simply changed to a different address when blocked and continued to vandalise. I give no sympathy to vandals or those who support it. Seicer (talk) (contribs) 23:48, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tallest buildings

Why doesn't Louisville's aritcle have a tallest buildings section like other similar sized cities.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.128.200.135 (talk • contribs)

Well, we do, it's just located on Downtown Louisville (I think it was originally here?) I didn't do the move but maybe it should be mentioned here, in abbreviated form. I have added a link to the downtown article in the sentence about tallest buildings, for the time being. Thanks for the comment. --W.marsh 21:35, 12 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

12/01/2007

In light of the frequent reverts today I have (semi)protected this article. Please discuss the changes here first, thanks/wangi 23:26, 12 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The 'Ville and Da Ville

I thought I'd open this up as a new discussion. I had thought that "The 'Ville" refers to U of L more than the city of Louisville. And I thought that "Da Ville" was the urban/rap slang used for the city. Hopefully, we can wring this out somehow. We could also decide not to place any slang nicknames in the infobox. Any thoughts? Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 19:38, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, as I recall there were 69 print references for "The 'Ville" (some referring specifically to rap artists), just 2 for "Da Ville" (and one was a misspelling of Cadillac Coupe de Ville). Maybe the CJ just doens't like printing "Da" but I dunno, that's why I went with "The 'Ville". There just doesn't seem to be a tremendous deal in print at this point... no one's really done a study of the usage of the term as far as I know. --W.marsh 21:02, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Citations

From 1974 to 1988, Jefferson County had a net loss of over 50,000 people.

Louisville's metro area is outgrowing Lexington's by a significant margin (about 4,100 a year, or 41,000 per census), and is growing nearly as fast as Cincinnati's metro area.

Both of these statements of fact need citations... and I fail to find any fact to back them up. Anyone?76.177.18.83 02:06, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I added a citation for the first... the second I couldn't find anything for in a cursory search. I'd support removing it if no one else can find one... re-add when we have a source. --W.marsh 02:17, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I hope we will give this several days before removal. It takes a while to do research on some of these things. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 02:21, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Be careful with statements such as "Most long-time residents pronounce the city's name as..." this is very subjective. I replaced "most" with "many"(maybe even "some" would be more appropriate). Statements of fact need citations.

Do you live in Louisville? If you did, you would know it's "most". Some facts are experiential in nature. Perhaps a reference will ultimately be found, but we cannot leave key information out when everyone who experiences Louisville knows it's true. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 17:31, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, there are many satements of fact throughout this entire article that seems to serve little purpose but to "puff up" this particular city for whatever reason... not very encyclopediac76.177.18.83 07:59, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Based on your prior vandalism and nonsense edits using two separate IP accounts, you really don't have much of a leg to stand on with regards to lecturing anyone as to what is encyclopedic. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 17:31, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It looks as if the IPvandal continues to strike; today at urban exploration, the IPvandal continued. Seicer (talk) (contribs) 18:01, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"I hope we will give this several days before removal. It takes a while to do research on some of these things." Isn't this backwards... shouldn't research be done BEFORE it's presented as fact in an article???76.177.18.83 08:02, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That's what the fact tag is there for. We assume good faith with reasonable-sounding content. It is fair to let it sit for a while to give editors time to find a reference. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 17:31, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Primate City?

"Many geographers consider Louisville to be Kentucky's primate city" again, uncited... can anyone cite this? "Many geographers"? Who? Where? Firstmost, the term primate city normally refers to cities within a country, not a state and secondly with Lexington being a hub of the state in many capacities one can certainly not view Louisville as "unrivaled"(per the wiki Primate City entry).76.177.18.83 08:14, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There is a typo in the Article, Louisville is the 26th largest city not the 27th.

See List of United States cities by population. According to the latest Census estimate, Louisville is #27. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 01:52, 19 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pop Growth

"Between the 1990 Census and 2000 Census, Louisville's metro area population outgrew Lexington's by 149,415, and Cincinnati's by 23,278" I can't find this data anywhere... is there a cite? 76.177.18.83

The stats that these figures are based on are included in the metro area articles, and those stats are sourced. Simple math is allowable and is not original research.

Also, I would ask you to please stop this pattern of trying to de-feature this article via fact tag placement. It is not a welcome behavior. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 17:06, 25 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Steve 74.128.200.135 20:17, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Steve 76.177.18.83