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Walter Görlitz (talk) 16:12, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
Rock Airplay chart
Hi, please be careful when adding the Rock Airplay chart to tables for songs that reached their peak position on the chart between 2009 and October 2012. The Rock Airplay chart wasn't introduced until October 20, 2012, which was when the Hot Rock Songs changed from becoming an airplay chart to a multi-metric chart using Hot 100 methodology. So Billboard's history of the Rock Airplay chart is identical to the current Hot Rock & Alternative Songs chart June 20, 2009 through October 13, 2012 because they are the same during that time frame. Thanks. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 00:17, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for the heads up, I agree to take more caution when editing articles about songs in that era from the future, also, regarding that accidental chart deletion I made at Never Say Goodbye, I like to double-check with an artists' chart history on the Billboard website, I recently found out that not all artists' chart entries have been archived and some may have been left out by mistake. Please be assured that I from now on will also check sources properly before changing or removing them. I also noticed you went right ahead and changed those articles I mistakenly edited to their rightful revisions, so great job on that front. Apologies for the errors and apologies if it was a waste of your time rectifying them, and once again thank you for your guidance. 21stcenturyrockfan (talk) 01:12, 4 September, 2020 (UTC)
- Based on Billboard's site, you've done things correctly, but it's just that Billboard backdates history when they change chart methodology and names. Like when they added streaming data to the Billboard 200 and created the Top Album Sales chart for pure sales, the history is shown as the same for both charts on their site for dates prior to Top Album Sales existing. Regarding the Hot 100 Airplay, I don't believe Billboard considers earlier incarnations of the Hot 100 Airplay official before BDS technology. They use a chart that debuted in late 1990 called Top 40 Radio Monitor to represent the beginning of the Radio Songs history, which is why it doesn't go back to the '80s (and why you won't find "Never Say Goodbye"), even though they published Hot 100 sales and airplay component charts back then. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 02:11, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
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Robert McClenon (talk) 04:59, 28 November 2020 (UTC)Question!
Question. I saw you keep changing my edits. I’m not upset. I’m just curious is all. You do realize that goo goo dolls is a post-grunge band and a lot of those songs and albums have the post-grunge inspiration? If you feel differently let me know and I would love to pick your brain on why you feel the post-grunge shouldn’t be associated? Chase1992 (talk) 00:14, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
- Wikipedia has a policy on changing/adding genres, which can be viewed here, and although you may make them out to be a post-grunge band, others may challenge this point of view if it isn't backed with a reliable source, even if you think the genre is obvious. Please note that adding unreferenced genres may make others believe that it's okay to do the same on other articles, which may result in an edit dispute. If you have any further questions, I would recommend asking the Teahouse. Magatta (talk) 00:24, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
Ahh gotcha. Didn’t know that. Appreciate the info! Chase1992 (talk) 00:32, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
June 2021
Were you the one who edited Sad But True? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lonerphoenix93 (talk • contribs)
- It was me who undid your recent edit, as it appeard to have added incorrect information. May I ask why you changed it when it was already correct, along with removing content on other articles such as this or this without adequately explaining why? Magatta (talk) 20:20, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
August 2021
Hello, I'm FlightTime. Please refrain from changing genres, as you did to Pantera even if you provide a/some source(s), you'll still need to start a discussion on the article talk page to allow editors who regular watch that page a chance to discuss the reliability of the source(s) you provided. One reason is, genre sources can easily be considered an opinion and not fact. Genre's are a touchy subject here on Wikipedia and without discussion/consensus, regardless of your source(s), your addition or removal will most likely be reverted. Your edit has been reverted and archived in the page history for now.
Thank you. - FlightTime (open channel) 17:58, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for the notice. Please be assured my revert was only done in good faith, and also because I didn't see a valid reason for it to be removed in the first place, as it was labelled as "redundant" by the previous editor without specifically mentioning why or how. Magatta (talk) 18:02, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
Bother
Click on the album link.. says August 27, 2002… it was also on Spider-Man and that says April 30, 2020… so it’s impossible the song was released in 2003….
Discogs has it listed as Hard Rock for the song..
Apple Music has it listed as hard rock for the album and rock for the song..
Feel free to use google and check it out yourself.. Nickoustic (talk) 21:09, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
- @Nickoustic Please refer to WP:CITE, which states that you need to actually include references when making edits to the genre field and release date in songs, instead of just making claims in edit summaries, and WP:ALBUMAVOID, where a consensus was established that Discogs is not a reliable source because it falls under WP:USERG, and therefore cannot be used in articles. Also if you feel the information is correct, please discuss on the article's talk page instead of edit warring. Information on Wikipedia is centered around the opinions of reputable sources, which arent those of blogs and user-generated websites. Magatta (talk) 21:20, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
The references are already on the page lmao why is this so difficult for you to understand? The link to the album is already there and so is the link to the soundtrack.. debate the genre with me all you want but a date is a date and it wasn’t released in 2003. It was re-released as a single after being released as a single from the soundtrack and being released on the album itself. You’re spending so much time reverting everything and running to the admins instead of just using your head and looking for yourself… Nickoustic (talk) 23:59, 5 September 2021 (UTC)