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RuPaul's Drag Race

Reason: All seasons of the show need to be protected. The progress tables were recently changed to remove a bunch of policy-violating WP:OR, and now there is a sudden spate of new editors creating accounts solely to revert the change. Daundelin❁ 14:24, 7 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Daundelin: Please give an example of one article where there has been a recent problem and preferably give a diff of an edit showing the problem with a brief explanation of how someone here could recognize that it is a problem. Johnuniq (talk) 07:45, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Johnuniq: see the histories for example:
That's just three of the many pages. The basic problem here is that Drag Race (like many pop culture properties, I suspect) is absolutely riddled with fans who are convinced that whatever they want is therefore encyclopedic. There was a discussion here Https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_RuPaul%27s_Drag_Race#It_has_been_a_while which is where the consensus for the changes was made; you can see the stark difference between policy-based argument and "but I like it so it should stay" argument. After posting they were going to make the changes, @Thijslandsmeer: waited quite some time before implementing them. It was only after implementation that there has suddenly been an influx of brand new accounts trying to editwar the changes away solely because they don't like it. They largely appear impervious to how policy actually works, and so protection is necessary to stop the endless disruption to the articles. Disruption which was even worse before the change, because there were constant wars over who was 'high' or 'low' with various editors clinging to their own personal interpretation of what a 'positive' or 'negative' critique is. Which quite neatly encapsulates the problem: brand new and/or single-purpose accounts are edit-warring to maintain a preferred version over which they can edit-war. Daundelin❁ 11:40, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Daundelin: Are you asking for semi-protection of all articles like RuPaul's Drag Race (season 12)? The history of that article shows some recent turmoil but nothing that semi-protection would stop. WT:WikiProject RuPaul's Drag Race#Progress tables across all seasons is far too long and complex for interpretation regarding what can be enforced by administrative action. There seem to be two issues. First, whether the "Contestant progress" table should be in a template that is transcluded to the article, or whether the table should simply be in the article. I have to warn you that people roam Wikipedia looking for single-purpose templates such as {{DragRaceProgressTable/12}} and nominate them for deletion saying that such content should be in the article. I'm just letting you know and am personally happy with the idea of a template. The second issue concerns details of what the table looks like. I think you would need a separate RfC on each issue where a simple question is asked. If a good consensus resulted, anyone editing against consensus could be warned and sanctioned if necessary. If there is anything that would benefit from semi-protection, please link to it and identify a problematic edit with a diff or the date/time of an edit in history. Johnuniq (talk) 00:15, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Johnuniq per your comment "I have to warn you that people roam Wikipedia looking for single-purpose templates ..." see this discussion from less than a month ago. Frietjes (talk) 20:46, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. It's unfortunate that such a lot of time wasting comes from these kinds of articles and if I were Jimbo they would all be ECP protected. Johnuniq (talk) 03:48, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Libertarianism

Temporary extended confirmed protection: Persistent disruptive editing – Persistent edit warring and disruptive editing from multiple users and IPs. Oqwert (talk) 18:06, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Just wanted to say this but I find it kind of ironic the guy who was disruptively editing was the one who suggested it be protected in their edit summary (not saying you're the one disruptively editing Oqwert). Blaze The Wolf | Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) (Stupidity by me) 19:00, 8 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Oqwert: It's hard for an admin here to identify why the edit warring is disruptive in the sense that ECP protection should be applied to support one side. A quick look makes me think that it is just edit warring and full protection should be used to force discussion and an RfC if needed. That's because the talk page has nothing since July. Thoughts from anyone on what should happen are welcome. Johnuniq (talk) 03:31, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Johnuniq: The page has also received high levels of "petty" vandalism since 2020; out of the last 100 edits, 47 have been reverted. While I agree a short-lasting FPP would help resolve the current content dispute, I believe a longer-lasting ECP is necessary to reduce the volume of disruptive edits the article receives. Oqwert (talk) 13:47, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Declined @Oqwert: This page needs fairly clear-cut cases to protect an article. I will watch the article for a while and take action if I notice a problem. If the current edit war continues, please start a section on the talk page and briefly set out the problem so that uninvolved onlookers can work out what's going on, state your view, and invite discussion. You can ping me from there if people continue edit warring after something new is on the talk page. Also, if semi-protection is needed, let me know. Johnuniq (talk) 03:44, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Božidar Janković

Reason: Full protection request due to edit warring between extended confirmed users. Edit warring, which began in July 2021, centers on POV content, sources that are out of date or are dead links. ElderZamzam (talk) 01:19, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Declined There is not much recent activity and the contributor of the reverted material has been blocked for two weeks so protection is not warranted now. Johnuniq (talk) 03:53, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Juddha Paolo

Reason: Favorite playground of sockmaster Nic.Cartagena Carl Francis (talk) 13:14, 9 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Declined Both you, Carl Francis and your opponent (who was cleared of being a sock) have been warned at ANI. Please discuss the content issues you have at the talk page. Less Unless (talk) 05:05, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lucas Wong

Temporary semi-protection: Persistent vandalism. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 11:45, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

User(s) blocked: Metinkv23 (talk · contribs) blocked by Bbb23. Less Unless (talk) 05:25, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Kaatelal & Sons

Temporary semi-protection: Persistent vandalism – Procedural request for Wikivasug who asked at WT:TV. Reason given: "The view history shows a lot of attempts of Vandalism wherein genuine references previously cited by editors were removed by a group of people for their own benefit. Information regarding an actor from the cast (Paras Arora) was also removed from the page which was later retrieved." There have been a lot of IP edits on this page of late. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 16:08, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

List of high-speed railway lines

Reason: Vandalism. It is probably not trivial to spot, but one can notice that after the vandal's edits Japan is listed twice in the table, and Spain disappears. Ymblanter (talk) 16:16, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

User(s) blocked. No further vandalism since two users were blocked. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:03, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Help talk:Contents

Indefinite semi-protection: Persistent test edits and misuse as a help page. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 20:35, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Question: Sdkb, it's like an edit a month, what am I missing? El_C 22:26, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@El C, it's not that it's an active page, but that the proportion of edits appropriate for the page is very low. It's helpful for newcomers to not be able to misplace their Teahouse question there, since then they get redirected to the actual Teahouse, where they'll receive better help. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 22:29, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not quite sure, maybe a note with a link to the Teahouse...? The activity is more fitting for pending changes, but that would be dumb in this case. Soliciting further input, for now. El_C 22:36, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure it's possible to make the present note any bigger. The problem may be partially WP:THEYCANTHEARYOU. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 22:47, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
No, I meant in the protection summary, which may have a wider reach wrt the mobile wall of garbage (not sure). El_C 23:40, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, yeah, that sounds fine. There are a bunch of other talk pages that are protected for similar reasons (e.g. Help talk:Introduction) but the comments from the protecting admin vary widely. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 01:19, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2021 Atlanta mayoral election

Temporary full protection: Content dispute/edit warring. Home Lander (talk) 22:41, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected for a period of 3 days, after which the page will be automatically unprotected. El_C 00:06, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Noo, bot, you're too fast! Your hunger for treats has made you a machine (machine). Erm: Fully protected for a period of 3 days, after which the page will be automatically unprotected. Maybe I'm missing some WP:BLP stuff. No harm in erring on the side of caution, I suppose. El_C 00:41, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

LGBT rights in Malaysia

Reason: High level of IP vandalism. Qadri223 (talk) 00:16, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Declined – Not enough recent disruptive activity to justify protection. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:13, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Gilles J Guillemin

Reason: Vandalism by peer from scientific field with intent to damage reputation of person the page is about. Posting speculative information about a matter that is still being resolved privately. The information is not for publishing to a public forum at this time while it is being resolved. Temporary protection for page requested, please. Rom0011 (talk) 01:06, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Declined – Not enough recent disruptive activity to justify protection. Please discuss this content issue on the article talk page. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:17, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Dennis Trillo

Temporary full protection: Content dispute/edit warring – A sockpuppeteer using multiple accounts, i.e. a fan of the subject, is engaging in an edit war with an established user over the page's content. Blake Gripling (talk) 04:27, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Conservative Party of Canada

Temporary semi-protection: Persistent vandalism. Moxy- 04:30, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Siege of Szigetvár

Semi-protection: Persistent vandalism – Resumption of edit warring and disruption by an IP immediately after previous protection expired. The IP might also well be served by a range-block. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 04:31, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry sir, but I'm not doing any vandalism, it can be read from my posts on talk page on Battle of Sigetvar [[1]]. I know you don't respect me just because I'm irrelevant IP.93.136.115.120 (talk) 06:56, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Richard Madden

Semi-protection: BLP policy violations. Brojam (talk) 05:15, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Declined – Warn the user appropriately then report them to AIV or ANI if they continue. Less Unless (talk) 05:29, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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