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Publications

Many more publications than that. Took a 30 second search on Google Scholar. DGG 18:14, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

30 seconds, that is fast. How do you tell google to distinguish him from other persons with the same name, at least one of them also a historian? [1] --Austrian (talk) 14:06, 22 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

references

First reference is out of date. Current ref to his page at Cambridge history faculty is http://www.hist.cam.ac.uk/directory/cmc11@cam.ac.uk - Wikipedia warns me about adding email addresses - and I think it is not nice to risk him getting loads of spam because of me updating the address, so not sure what to do. Rob1parsons (talk) 20:27, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Deutschland Saga

I think this could be mentioned too. http://www.zdf.de/terra-x/deutschland-saga-ueber-deutsche-tradition-und-mentalitaet-mit-christopher-clark-35718358.html Taksen (talk) 07:03, 9 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Article name

He is overwhelmingly referred to as Christopher Clark, this Cambridge page is pretty much the only source using "Chris" three times, but also "Christopher". I suggest to move the article back whence it came, to Christopher Clark. This is the name all other Wikipedia languages use. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 04:58, 23 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

PS: He is definitely not called "Sir Chris Clark", as the infobox now states; it should be "Sir Christopher Clark". -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 12:28, 14 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I second that; Christopher or Christopher M. is what appears on all (?) of his books. Ziko (talk) 15:12, 30 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Odd passages about the views of “mainstream historians”

I was struck by the use of of the vague, yet sweeping term “mainstream historians” to present a narrative that Clark was somehow breaking entirely new ground when he challenged the “Sonderweg” and “German WWI war guilt” perspectives.

To my knowledge, the Sonderweg thesis has never been uncontested and, similarly, I am not aware that the notion that Imperial Germany was solely responsible for WWI was a solid, historical consensus (hence the huge volume of historical scholarship on the origins and causes of WWI).

In short, it seems that the article sets up something of a straw man in presenting unsourced and undefined “mainstream historians” agreeing on something that have been hotly debated by historians for decades (Sonderweg/origins of WWI) that make Clark’s contributions seem to be more of a paradigm shift than contributions to ongoing, historical debates.

Hence, I would suggest that these claims about the opinions of “mainstream historians” are either more precisely elaborated and sourced or modified to be a bit less bombastic. Mojowiha (talk) 10:00, 16 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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