User talk:Yandman/Archive3

FyiFoff

can you tell me what is the difference from ALS Scan that I has here, or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Met_Art

maybe you should delete that online porn as well because it's all spam!

bereal, I'll trying to fill in a void, look at free ones, people look for these models, before i can there was about 6 models in wiki listting ALS Scan as a place of work

WHY am i being shot down??????? — Preceding unsigned comment added by FyiFoff (talk • contribs)

OK. When you write a message on a talk page, put it at the bottom, under a new title (click the "+" button at the top of the page. Secondly, sign your messages with ~~~~ so I don't have to do it for you. You'll notice that Met_art is one of the 500th most visited sites on the internet, whereas yours is 3000th. It has also been listed by FHM as one of their "top 50" sites. I know it's frustrating when your work gets deleted, but we've got to respect the WP:WEB guidelines. Another issue is that most of your contributions seem to have been to try to get this site talked about, which is frowned upon. Lastly, you've been very impolite, ignoring warnings from other users. So, in short, that's why you're being "shot down". Thanks for your understanding. yandman 08:06, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

tjstrf

You're indeed right. I was attempting to remove the deleted peurile template but I think I accidently screwed something up... rather majorly in fact. As best I can tell, I saved the wrong version of the page while tabbed browsing through the diff history, sorry. I'll go fix it, since it appears I messed up more than you noticed. --tjstrf talk 08:32, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

That would explain it. Good luck fixing it... yandman 08:59, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

SkierRMH

That's the only bloody thing that i use (the preloaded debate link). I haven't had a problem with it (or any other pages), but in the last 12 hours it seems that something is amiss... and if someone could tell me EXACTLY what's happening, I'll try to fix it - but I'm using the proposed link and am following the instructions (as I've been doing in the past with no problems) on [1] - the 3 step process to success! N.B. my last two [2] Indus Valley... and IVS Alumni... seem to have loaded correctly. So, suggestions???SkierRMH 10:47, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm looking into it. By the way, IVS alumni wasn't working until I fixed it. yandman 10:50, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Next time you make an AfD, copy and paste (inside "nowiki" tags, they're in the editing tools box) the exact code you use before (it changes afterwards) you save the AfD page. For example, IVS would be: {{subst:afd2|pg=IVS Alumni Association|cat=O|text=Bla bla bla}}. yandman 10:56, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

• That's what I'm doing, but the results apparently are inconsistent. I did notice one oddity (ISP/routing problem?) that sometimes the Stage 3 listing (to the daily journal page, is recorded before the Stage 2, which if my thinking is correct, would give 'null' for some of the automatic changes. The page appeared to correct itself after the two were in sync and the data syncs. I was getting into the habit of having multiple windows open to cover the individual steps and submitting them all at the same time... guess that's not a great idea!!SkierRMH

Maybe that's it. Try doing them in sync, and we'll see if it messes up again. Good luck... yandman 11:19, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Tractorkingsfan 2

What's up Yandman, you seem to know what you are doing around here. I've done some editing, but I've never tried creating an article until just now. It's Heavy Trash. I've seen them play and they're definitely notable, but extensive biographical information is scarce. I'd like to make it good, so I was wondering if you could help me with basic procedure, e.g. infobox and general format, plus if you know a place for biographies on bands that would be helpful. Take a look, see what you think. Thanks. Tractorkingsfan 12:41, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

I've had a look. They do seem to be quite important, but I can't find any articles that talk about them, which is a pain. However, they've got albums on amazon, so that means they must be quite important. I'll give you a hand setting it up. yandman 13:03, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Nicely done, thank you. I'll be continuing to work on expanding this article, any other input you have is always more than welcome. Tractorkingsfan 13:13, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

MONGO

Rather than flaming out on someone elses talk page, why don't you bring it to mine...if you have a problem, just let me know. I deal with these trolls way too often and that editor was stalking my edits whether you wish to believe so or not. All I was asking was some common courtesy between admins, and I even stated that I could understand reducing the block, but not simply unblocking completely. If that doesn't make sense to you, then I don't know what else to tell you.--MONGO 14:27, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

I wasn't flaming, I was pointing out my strong disapproval of your actions. My comments were a direct reply to yours, so I preferred to post them at the same place. I sympathise with your plight, I really do, and maybe if I had known of your history my tone wouldn't have been quite so strong, but the best way to fight these guys is to be irreproachable. Your skin should be thick enough for you not to react until they step out of line (and then come down on them like a ton of bricks...). Procedure has to be respected, even when things get personal, especially when you're putting someone away for life. And "courtesy" doesn't mean agreeing with what you do. Of course he should have asked, or at least warned, you before unblocking, but as the block didn't respect the rules, that was his prerogative. This isn't a black and white situation. Maybe Miltopia is a troll, but maybe he's just a serious editor who likes taking the piss out of people on another website. Whatever the result, this doesn't mean that all those who tried to defend him are against you. Again, I apologise for being extremely harsh with you, but I find your way of acting a bit too heavy handed for a collaborative project. yandman 15:09, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

RunedChozo

Libel Warning? In the first place, WP:No Legal Threats. In the second, if you are going to leave someone a warning, you could at LEAST do them the courtesy of showing what edit you are referring to. RunedChozo 16:30, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

It wasn't a legal threat, because I'm a neutral third party, and I don't intend on doing anything. The user he labeled as "racist" however, can sue him for defamation, which is why I gave this user a standard template warning advising him to remove his defamatory contribution ASAP. The template says "check through your edits", which seems pretty self-explanatory, but FYI the edit in question was this. yandman 16:37, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

As both are anonymous on Wikipedia, I don't see how that is the case. And no, if you're going to make accusations at someone, it is YOUR job to supply the diffs. I'd advise you to stop making legal threats to anyone, and if you feel they have gone over the line (this user does seem to have a short fuse) write them a POLITE message regarding the edit in question. Also, calling someone a racist is not a libelous statement, since it is necessarily a statement of opinion and free speech (such as the First Amendment to the US Constitution) still applies. RunedChozo 16:40, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

The legality of the matter depends on the country, and this user has already been warned politely (in fact he's only just got out of a block for making personal attacks). I'm neither making accusations nor threats, I'm just advising the user that retracting his statement would be the best thing to do. I shouldn't have used the {{defwarn}} template though, as it doesn't quite fit. Maybe I'll cook something up. yandman 16:47, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. Pointing out that another user is doing something potentially illegal is not the same thing as "making a legal threat". (And if User:RunedChozo really thinks it's not possible to be sued for libel in the US for calling someone a "racist", I advise him to consider that Tom Cruise successfully sued someone for calling him "gay", and that Frank Vance was sued for calling someone a "nincompoop".) wikipediatrix 17:00, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

"nincompoop"? Really? I hate do think what John Edward did... yandman 17:58, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Khoikhoi 2

Hey yandman. I think it would be better if the photo were added to the Ottoman Muslim casualties article instead...what do you think? Khoikhoi 02:55, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

That seems to be the ideal place. This article needs photos. However, it's tagged as being more than 100 years since the photographer died, which isn't physically possible. Maybe it should be retagged under something else? yandman 07:36, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

I've moved it. yandman 07:40, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't know much about copyright stuff, try asking one of the copyright admins like Jkelly, Carnildo, or Lupo. Cheers, Khoikhoi 07:42, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Daniel.Bryant

User talk:NotAWeasel: Although there is no doubt this user is disruptive, please don't bait him/her with comments like this.[3] It only makes the situation worse, which is not something that any of us want. Believe me, one more peep out of him/her along the lines of [4] and he/she'll be having an extended period of time to think about his/her actions, but for now lets' not fuel the fire, please? I've removed your comment; if you feel that I shouldn't have, and/or you disagree with the above, please don't readd it, but instead discuss it on my user talk page. Remember, please don't feed the trolls (not saying that this user is a "troll", but certainly "disruptive" and "controversial" apply, and that is the intention of this - "don't stir the pot with disruptive users"), and I'm sure things will work out fine. Cheers, Daniel.Bryant ^{[ T · C ]} 11:16, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

And for [5], as promised: [6]. Also, sorry for not following the layout you use with the headers being the author's names - I didn't realise. Cheers, Daniel.Bryant ^{[ T · C ]} 13:31, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. Thanks for cleaning up after my little piss-take... Don't worry about the section headers, it's a sort of test. So far, only two people have passed. At least you noticed, and didn't try to revert the title, as some have done. Pointless, I know, but it keeps me occupied. yandman 13:38, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Hattusili

I will try to provide more information about the photo from sources other than Military sites, meanwhile I won't insist on it to stay ın the article (but I prefer keeping it). 100 years tag is my mistake (Turkish laws says 70 but there is no concensus about the ottoman period) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hattusili (talk • contribs)

OK. I'll give it a few days, and if we can't find anything, I'll have it removed. yandman 14:53, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Bestiege23

get life plz

You're right! Why am I wasting my time trying to educate people? Why don't I stop wasting my life and start putting childish comments on collaborative webpages? Thank you so much for pointing out my mistakes. I am forever in your debt, child. yandman 16:45, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

(Radiant)

Since you expressed an opinion on Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Discuss and Vote, I would appreciate it if you could comment on WP:DDV, in particular as to whether it accurately represents the way Wikipedia works (and feel free to reword it if it doesn't) and as to whether it is correct that we generally discourage (but not forbid) voting. Thanks. (Radiant) 08:40, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Sounds canny, pet. yandman 08:55, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Brad Beattie

Hey, thanks for catching that signage for me. I try to remember, but it just keeps slipping my mind. :) --Brad Beattie ^(talk) 14:38, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

That's what gnomes are there for... yandman 14:47, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Fan-1967

Being in a foreign language is not automatic grounds for speedy deletion, unless the article was just copied from one of the foreign wikis. There is a {notenglish} template, but that just marks it as needing translation, and you need to follow-up and add it into the list of articles needing translation. In this case, though, I could understand enough to see that this is a résumé for a bartender. That's an obvious db-bio. Fan-1967 14:22, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Jamesward22

Fuck you, do not censor me, cuntface. I think my point about French people being smelly frogs is very valid, it is not a matter of opinion. You go to hell you dirty bitch. Hugs and kisses Your secret admirer — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamesward22 (talk • contribs)

What a pleasant way to start the day! yandman 08:36, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

HighInBC

Hi, placing the AfD tag on the page is the first step out of three in nominating something for deletion. You still need to fill in the nomination page and place it on the AfD list or it will not be listed. Complete instructions are here: Template:AfD footer. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 15:34, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

:-) Thanks for your concern... I was just checking the source he gives. yandman 15:37, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Ah, good idea. Thanks. HighInBC ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 15:52, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Iwazaki

Thanks. I just read your comments at the User talk:Durova.Thanks a lot for taking some of your precious time and looking into this matter.

--Iwazaki 08:10, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Bitteschon. yandman 08:12, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

were you behind my back ??!! the reply was quicker than a japanese shinkansen

--Iwazaki 08:16, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Gnangarra

I would like to express my appreciation of the time you spent considering my successful RfA. Thankyou Gnangarra 13:08, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

THOTH

Armenian Genocide: I want to thank you for your involvement. Its nice to see that people care (and can articulate sensibly on the matter...and with references too!). This is an important issue for everyone - not just for Armenians (or Turks). So kudos to you - please try to stay involved. --THOTH 18:15, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

One of the more depressing things I've learnt here on the 'pedia is how many petty nationalistic disputes there are. People come here after a lifetime of indoctrination (be it by FOX News, Hisbullah, the Turkish/Chinese/US government e.t.c...) and just can't accept the truth. yandman 16:32, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

And one of the more depressing things I have learnt in Wiki is how many exchange students that go to another country for the first time in their life can get so air-headed that they start judging others by considering that they must have been "indoctrinated" and think that that must be the reason why they cannot accept the TRUTH (what is that by the way, are you God by chance?) Give me a break dude... What you might want to do is get out of your small bubble around you and travel (really travel, I mean live there) to see why certain things exist in the first place. I also would like you to leave a message to every non-atheist in Wikipedia, calling them a bunch of indoctrinated weak flock of sheep - if such indoctrination is so common and that they cannot handle the "Truth" because of it. Come on, do it.. :)) What, you don't want them to slide away from their indoctrination so that they can see the "Truth" (that organized religion is utter BS)?? :)))) Try to be more understanding of other people, u have a long way to go... Baristarim 01:34, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Why do you think I'm a student? To be honest, religious wiki-editors do understand the difference between the verifiable truth and their own "Truth", at least those who are unblocked do. And any editor who does try to insert their "Truth" into an article about their religion (the rumpus at Xenu was a good example) sees a succession of rectangular building objects fall on their head. I don't see why nationalism would be treated differently. I can understand people needing to look up to something, be it their religion or their nation, but we can't accept them doing it in article space. yandman 08:32, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

nae'blis

I wasn't going to send thank-you cards, but the emotional impact of hitting WP:100 (and doing so unanimously!) changed my mind. So I appreciate your confidence in me at RFA, and hope you'll let me know if I can do anything for you in the future. Cheers! -- nae'blis 23:06, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

THL^CCD

Lonelyboy has confessed to being the latest Twentyboy sock.[7] He hasn't made personal attack under this name, and is actually being a good editor. I'll leave his fate up to you, seeing as he went after you the worst. Cheers, -- THL^CCD 00:05, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. yandman 08:33, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanx! I love you :) Lonelyboy 00:51, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Baristarim 4

I hate to do this, but may I ask you why you are citing his name as if he used the word Genocide? Before you do that, please find any document, interview etc where he mentions the word Genocide. Do not twist his words for political advantage. Tout le monde qui connait, meme un peu, cet historie sait très bien que c'est l'utilisation du mot g qui est important, et bien sur la designation de ce mot pr ces evenements. Je n'ai pas envie d'entrer ds une dispute sur celà, en revanche, ça m'enerve de voir les gens qui utilise des examples pour faire en sorte que les Turcs qui oppose l'utilisation du mot g sont bizarre ou racist. Il y a une difference entre la négation du génocide propre, et la négation de l'utilisation du "mot". Elles ne st pas pareil. La deuxième est une question tres valable, tu la comprendras si tu lis ce que j'ai écris sur le talk page sur la situation juridique qui entoure ces evenements. Et ne cite plus jamais le nom de Pamuk comme un "héro" pr le ga - sauf si tu trouve un entretien, livre etc où il utilise expressement le mot g. Sinon, the joke will be on you my friend.. Cheers! Baristarim 01:24, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

We're splitting hairs here. What I said was that Pamuk has never denied the genocide, which is true. And I'm sure he would disagree with 128.112.37.9 if he wasn't busy receiving awards. And as for "Il y a une difference entre la négation du génocide propre, et la négation de l'utilisation du "mot" ", I couldn't agree less. Wikipedia isn't censored, we call a spade a spade. Je ne vois pas ça comme une question juridique, mais comme une question purement de WP:NPOV#Undue_weight. Si tout le monde appèle ça un génocide, nous aussi. Si ils appelaient ça une invention anti-Turque, nous aussi. yandman 09:59, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm curious Baristarim...are you trying to say or do you believe that Pamuk was referencing some other event (besides the Armenian genocide) where 1 million Armenians were killed by Turks? I'm also wondering if you believe, as other Turks have expressed on the Armenian genocide talk pages - that Pamuk as a novelist - and not a historian - may not be the end all expert to rely on whether or not the term "genocide" is indeed the correct one to use in the case of the total ethnic cleansing of Armenians (from Anatolia) and total and utter destruction of Armenian civilization there. Might you suggest a better term to use to describe such? Perhaps we can agree on it and write Pamuk to tell him what it is this thing he is refering to...--THOTH 06:28, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

I really don't want to get into this, I cannot take the fact that the whole discussion is always coming down to a simple word.. Anyways.. Yandman... Look... Did you read the classification scale? I mean, is it just common sense, or am I just friggin' stupid or is it simple logic that FA comes after A, and A comes after GA, and GA comes after B, and B comes after start, and start comes after stub??? With all that talk about us being wikipedians first and all, I might have dreamt that I was living in la-la-land.. Look, the rating system is not some political toy, it is a Wiki-wide accepted rating system that serves the global efficiency of Wikipedia to better its articles. I nominated many articles for GA review, and in the meantime they are all rated B-class... If you want some article to get to FA status, then nominate it for FA and peer review, don't just arbitrarily call them super-mega-maxi-omnipotent size super-class.. Both Turkey and Ataturk articles are still not past B-class even though there are many out there who would like to rate them A or galaxy-class. Turkish literature, otoh, is FA because it passed impartial FA review. Please do not make things confusing for other random readers and editors who just happen to drop by. I have also become part of WP AR, so I will re-eveluate all unwarranted ratings to their appropriate scales pending eventual review that can grant them better class.. Gees... Baristarim 23:16, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Don't get so annoyed. Your edit summary read "please don't rate articles higher than GA unless they have passed Good Article review.. These are Wikipedia criteria". As I pointed out, this is false. Indeed, having completed the Good article designation process is not a requirement for A-Class. Therefore, your modification being based on a false premise, it had to be reverted. I have no idea what rating it deserves, and it's not my concern. What is my concern is making sure users understand our policies and don't invoke false policies. yandman 08:04, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Look... If FA comes after A, and A comes after GA, than it is simple logic that it cannot have A unless it has passed GA. there is no need to be nitpicking over this.. But, it is true, there is no wiki policy for A... Baristarim 13:46, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

It's silly isn't it? But I didn't write the rules. There must be a good reason for this (buried in a talk archive from 3 years ago). yandman 14:03, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

User:Sp3000

I know it's funny but the only reason I added was to see if he/she'll remove it. If he/she does, I might put it up for AfD. Go Futurama! User:Sp3000 11:15, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Interesting tactic... I've prodded it for speedy deletion, there's no point wasting AfD time with this nonsense. yandman 11:20, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Lonelyboy

Don't butt in to what doesn't concern you, especially with threats. Lonelyboy 14:29, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

There's a difference between a threat and a legitimate warning to a user who has been indefinitely banned for trolling and issuing death threats, and is now using a sockpuppet to evade that block. My patience is starting to wear thin. May I strongly suggest you change your behaviour before your IP is perma-blocked. yandman 14:37, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Nope, you can't use the situation as a sort of blackmail to behave inappropriately. I won't allow you to because I am going on vacation for the month of December anyway. I don't really care what is wearing thin with you. Your butting in with threats is inappropriate. I won't put up with the blackmail either. You CHOSE to get involved on Hybrid's talk page and start trouble and that's what you got. Bye! Lonelyboy 14:47, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

I only needed to be here for three days yandman and it worked. Bye now! Going on vacation tomorrow morning. Lonelyboy 14:49, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

See you in 6 months. yandman 15:54, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Just out of curiosity, you did remeber to report the accout as a sockpuppet and get it perma-banned right? -- THLR^CCD 22:37, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

That's true. I wish that we could perma-ban IP addresses, but I guess it's to big of a risk. Cheers, -- THLR^CCD 15:59, 3 December 2006 (UTC)