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Template:YouTube

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the template below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was keep. JPG-GR (talk) 16:17, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Template:YouTube (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

YouTube, like most video sites are generally not linked to except in rare circumstances. Sites that allow free uploads of material from the public are always way more problematic than general, due to the extreme amounts of copyright violations there. The existence of a template to make such links easier is a clear violation of WP:EL standards. On those rare occasions where a YouTube link is appropriate it should not by via a template of this sort, it should have real description written on a case by case basis. DreamGuy (talk) 20:59, 30 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • What about all those thousands of articles where it is appropriate? And for that matter, the "edit this page" tab makes it look too that someone can edit a page and write whatever nonsense he wants. People will continue to add YouTube links, with or without a template. Do U(knome)? yes...or no 19:16, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Very useful. --bender235 (talk) 17:36, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy keep. Widely used, keeps links to a popular site in consistent format. The ideo that it encourages copyvio is the most absurd copyright paranoia I've seen on here (and we can have a lot of absurd copyright paranoia from time to time). Just because it might link to copyrighted works (which are not the only works on YouTube) does not mean that Wikipedia should delete it. This is blatantly not a "clear violation of WP:EL". — OwenBlacker (Talk) 21:23, 5 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Useful template that doesn't promote illegal copy-vio as such. --Hapsala (talk) 09:59, 6 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. Providing something for valid use is not in anyway an encouragement of invalid use. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 12:56, 6 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - WP:EL#YOUTUBE states, 'There is no blanket ban on linking to these sites as long as the links abide by the guidelines on this page'. Linking to YouTube is not, in itself, against the rules, and there are cases where a YouTube external link is useful and adds value to an article; this template exists for such cases. In the (probably more common) cases where a YouTube link is inappropriate, the solution is to remove it, not delete this template - it's easy to add a link without using the template anyway, so deleting it wouldn't solve the problem, and would just make things harder for the places where such links are used appropriately. Robofish (talk) 13:44, 6 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per above. I don't see how it's a blatant violation of WP:EL, as indeed there is no blanket ban on YouTube links. I can think of multiple cases where a YouTube link would be a worthwile external link; for instance, a music video from an artist or label's official YouTube channel, or in an article about a YouTube video that has become notable enough to warrant its own article (see Category:YouTube videos for several examples). Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Many otters • One hammer • HELP) 19:35, 6 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, YouTube links are often appropriate in articles, as mentioned above, and link templates of the kind are good for a standardized look (just like {{Official}}, {{imdb title}}, {{memoryalpha}}, ...). Does not violate WP:EL. --Amalthea 23:24, 6 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Useful template. No valid reason to delete. لennavecia 04:59, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - No need for deletion. Inexperienced wikipedians will still link to YouTube Dt128 (talk) 13:06, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Template:WCSchools

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The result of the discussion was delete. JPG-GR (talk) 16:18, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Template:WCSchools (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

This is a navigation template for "Secondary schools in the Western Cape". There are at least 350 such schools; currently there are 33 with articles linked in the template.

According to Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and navigation templates#Navigation templates: "They are particularly useful for small and more or less complete sets; templates with a large numbers of links are not forbidden, but can appear overly busy and be hard to read and use." This template is for a set that is both large and incomplete.

This navigation template doesn't provide anything that Category:Schools in the Western Cape (and subcategories) don't. htonl (talk) 09:56, 30 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Bubble tea

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The result of the discussion was userfied to User:Download/Bubble tea. JPG-GR (talk) 03:48, 7 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Bubble tea (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

This template doesn't really serve any tangible purpose other than spamming cluttering up user-talk pages... I'm sure that if someone really wants it preserved, it can be userfied, but it's really abstruse and of little use otherwise. ╟─TreasuryTag►contribs─╢ 15:13, 30 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep So what if it isn't in wide use? I do want to preserve it; what's the difference between userfying and leaving it as it is? There is no point, and these templates make users' days better. -download | sign! 02:16, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • It doesn't do any harm being in a public namespace, so why not leave it there? In any case, it would be more convenient to type {{bubble tea}} rather than {{User:Someone/Bubble tea}}. In addition, how does it "clutter up" the template namespace? This doesn't make a significant difference to the already numerous pages in the template namespace. -download | sign! 22:01, 2 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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