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McKinney homicide

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Local crime with no lasting impact or coverage. Being featured on America's Most Wanted does not confer notability. And Wikipedia is not a newspaper or newswire service. KidAd • SPEAK 02:07, 27 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 02:09, 27 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Texas-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 02:09, 27 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: I believe that sources show significant coverage and the article passes WP:GNG. Just because it is local does not mean there was no lasting coverage, it appears to have made headlines for a while, including up to the sentencing. ––FormalDude talk 07:16, 27 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:EVENTCRIT and WP:NOTNEWS, especially since all coverage is strictly local. Mlb96 (talk) 04:08, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Mlb96: WP:LOCALCOVERAGE states that the coverage must be regional for notability, and that is clearly the case here, with multiple outlets in the Dallas/Fort Worth Metropolitan Area reporting on the crime. ––FormalDude talk 02:59, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
'~~Delete-per nom. Best Regards.---✨Lazy Maniik✨~~ 05:21, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Within 9 minutes the above user copy-pasted either "keep as above" or "delete per nom" on 10 AFDs, clearly disruptive editing in my opinion. I think the comment should be disregarded. The user is welcome to return to make actual comments. Geschichte (talk) 08:09, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Agree with Geschichte. ––FormalDude talk 08:14, 28 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 03:16, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. The producers of America's Most Wanted are not proper arbiters of notability. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:36, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Evidence of significant coverage in reliable sources (e.g., Dallas Morning News, NBC News, AP, and amazingly Taiwan News) continuing for more than a decade after the initial event makes this event a sure pass for WP:LASTING. This is particularly the case given that the death sentence was appealed to the US Supreme Court. WP:AUD is a requirement for articles about Corporations/Organisations so I honestly don't know why people are raising the idea that the coverage is purely "local" above. NBC and AP are national coverage anyway - there is no sign that this news was published only on local affiliate websites (though NBC's DFW affiliate gave coverage to this last year, and Dallas-Fortworth is arguably at least a "region" given it having a population of more than 6 million people) . The point about America's Most Wanted above is simply misguided - this is not the basis of notability of this article. FOARP (talk) 10:48, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - per FOARP, who makes a persuasive case and investigation for keeping the article. --Killuminator (talk) 20:10, 3 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment @FOARP: and @FormalDude: WP:GEOSCOPE is the relevant guideline here, since this is an event, and a single metro area is clearly an "immediate region." While FOARP did provide some national coverage, I'm still not entirely convinced that this meets either WP:EVENTCRIT or WP:NOTNEWS, so I'm leaving my !vote as is. Mlb96 (talk) 03:29, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mlb96 - thanks for responding. Obviously the guides can be read different ways, but I disagree. In my view, coverage in diverse sources over 10+ years easily makes this WP:LASTING and puts it outside of WP:NOTNEWS. This falls pretty squarely between EVENTCRIT #1 and #2 in my view. I strongly disagree that a metro area with a population and land-area roughly that of Belgium is the "immediate region" in this context: "immediate region" here would be McKinney city or at most Collin County, of which McKinney is the capital - how else are we to interpret "immediate" other than that area that most closely surrounds the location where it happen? Expanding "immediate region" beyond that to include country-sized regions would make events with effects lasting years and reported over a long period of time in many countries automatically fail the guide, which cannot have been the intent of the guide given its emphasis on national-scale coverage. FOARP (talk) 09:26, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - per FOARP, who makes a good case. also per WP:GNG. Good sources.BabbaQ (talk) 18:59, 4 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]