Talk:Counting On

This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.

If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.

This article has not yet been rated on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
It is of interest to the following WikiProjects:

Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.

Biography

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography

Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.

Television: Reality Low‑importance

	Television portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Television, a collaborative effort to develop and improve Wikipedia articles about television programs. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page where you can join the discussion. To improve this article, please refer to the style guidelines for the type of work.TelevisionWikipedia:WikiProject TelevisionTemplate:WikiProject Televisiontelevision
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	This article is supported by the Reality television task force (assessed as Low-importance).

Please add the quality rating to the {{WikiProject banner shell}} template instead of this project banner. See WP:PIQA for details.

United States: Television / Arkansas Low‑importance

	United States portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the United States of America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions. Template Usage Articles Requested! Become a Member Project Talk Alerts United StatesWikipedia:WikiProject United StatesTemplate:WikiProject United StatesUnited States
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	Television portal This article is supported by American television task force (assessed as Low-importance).
	Arkansas portal This article is supported by WikiProject Arkansas (assessed as Low-importance).

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 11 February 2020 and 5 April 2020. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Saraenglish2 (article contribs).

Adding grandchildren

Can we have clarification as to why the grandchildren (who do regularly appear on the show) have been removed? On the related page "Bringing Up Bates" the grandchildren are still listed so I'm just interested to know what the difference is. Gigismommy (talk) 19:05, 25 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This is an issue that is currently being brought up. I do agree that the grandchildren should be removed if it goes against BLP violations. Therefore, the grandchildren should only be added if there are liable sources to confirm their birth and to prove that it is widely discussed. I will try and find these sources to ensure that the grandchildren table can stay up and make sure that it goes along the Wikipedia guidelines. Duhaaacx (talk) 11:10, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

this article is about a TV show, it isn't about the cast themselves. If you want to create a biography of a living person, create an article about that person. No need to hijack an article about a TV show. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:12B0:3000:8DD5:9126:A988:2CC1 (talk) 09:40, 2 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Infant Ages

To step away from the potential of editing wars, can we discuss here what the preferred ageing for the children above 2 is?

Infant ageing (e.g. age 2 years and 4 months) or just toddler/child/adult ageing (e.g. age 2). Personally, I prefer just age 2, as a 2 year old is no longer classed as an infant but a toddler, and therefore infant ageing is not necessary unless the child is under 2 and still hurting crucial milestones.

Please provide thoughts. Duhaaacx (talk) 16:18, 8 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that we only need the years for grandchildren 2 years and up. When kids reach 2 years, they are considered toddlers and most people stop keeping track of months.

Also thanks for your constant maintenance of this page. - BecauseIHadTo — Preceding unsigned comment added by BecauseIHadTo (talk • contribs) 20:07, 30 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 1 March 2021

This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request.

grandkids 82.28.147.9 (talk) 17:25, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 17:54, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Add the rest of the family back please!

Why does the rest of the family keep being removed? They need to be added back and left. It hasn’t been a problem before, so why now? Please put them back up. Jeanniefan78 (talk) 02:58, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Please add the children, the children’s spouses, and all the grandchildren back, please. Jeanniefan78 (talk) 03:00, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Jeanniefan78, we can consider including that content when it's widely covered in reliable sources. Until then, it violates WP:BLPPRIVACY. Woodroar (talk) 12:14, 17 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Woodroar How are the birthdates and marriages of this family which are covered in a lot of major US magazines, not covered in reliable sources??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eck1125 (talk • contribs)

Many major US magazines are gossipy tabloids, not reliable sources. For the most part, reputable news outlets don't cover marriages and births, so Wikipedia shouldn't, either. Woodroar (talk) 20:44, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This family became famous simply for being large and the programmes focus on marriage and childbirth. Its their USP, and therefore the information is relevant to their wikipedia entry. They personally update social media with details and dates of their marriages and births and therefore a reliable source of data is available. 90.201.52.253 (talk) 00:47, 16 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know if I'd call People Magazine a gossip site since celebs will go there to confirm these things and sell the info to them. But I do agree with adding the info back at some point even more so since their whole brand is based off a reality show that confirms the dates of weddings and births.Nina878787 (talk) 4:57 30 April 2021 (UTC)

I mean, that's the definition of a gossip site. In any case, our policy says not to include it, especially in the case of minors. Woodroar (talk) 13:35, 30 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 9 April 2021

This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request.

Add back. (Redacted) Wifed71115 (talk) 07:38, 9 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That was removed because it violated our policies regarding content about living persons and also our manual of style for use of color. We won't be adding it back unless the names and dates are widely published in reliable, independent sources. Woodroar (talk) 12:29, 9 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 24 April 2021

This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request.

change 'their son, Gideon and Evelyn.', to 'their son, Gideon and daughter, Evelyn.' Jayeffkayy (talk) 14:01, 24 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:07, 24 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

What counts as a mention

I found an article that discusses the organization that the duggars are part of. It includes a photo of the cast, mentions the show, and discusses their relationship with the iblp. This has been removed repeatedly for not mentioning the show. It does reference their tlc reality show. Does additional criteria should be met? 107.202.75.102 (talk) 22:50, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/July-2016/Institute-in-Basic-Life-Principles-Hinsdale/ - the article in question 107.202.75.102 (talk) 22:51, 7 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]