Talk:Peterson–Žižek debate
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Croatian media
@Vsejevoda:@Bilorv:, in edit summary was a statement that "the croatian analytics haven’t said that Peterson was more convincing", which is not true. I thoroughly checked both of Croatian sources and the first says "S druge strane, u određenim se pitanjima jednostavno previše slažu da bi debata zadovoljila visoka očekivanja. Iz istih je razloga teško, a vjerojatno i besmisleno, reći tko je "pobijedio" u ovoj debati, iako je Peterson bio daleko uvjerljiviji u svojoj obrani kapitalizma" (which translates as "On the other hand, in certain matters, they simply agree too much for the debate to meet high expectations. For the same reasons it is difficult, and probably meaningless, to say who has "won" this debate, although Peterson was far more convincing in his defense of capitalism").--Miki Filigranski (talk) 15:24, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
"Croatian media isn't very reliable. In croatian media there is a strong influence of "newborn" libertarians and objectivists under the umbrella of highly influential and controversial right wing-libertarian think thank Atlas Network close to Trump and Bolsonaro." (Marin)
WP Traffic
https://pageviews.toolforge.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&start=2017-07&end=2020-06&pages=Jordan_Peterson%7CSlavoj_%C5%BDi%C5%BEek could be added as an entertaining statistic--Quin451 (talk) 22:45, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
Transcript
I found a transcript prepared online of the debate, should I submit it as an external link? It can be found here — Preceding unsigned comment added by Artimaean (talk) 21:43, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
- @Artimaean: Wikipedia is based on published, reliable sources so we can't have something that you could (well within your rights) take down at any moment (it's unpublished) or something that isn't published by an expert or in a source that has expert fact-checking, as someone could falsify the transcript in some place and we'd be none the wiser (it's unreliable). In this case there's the additional consideration that publishing a transcript would be copyright infringement, so no, we cannot host or link to any transcript that's not published by the copyright owners. — Bilorv (talk) 21:57, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
left-wing framing in "reception"
Peterson clearly won this debate, the article tries to make it look the other way. Also Zizek speaks with a strong accent therefore most people even fail to understand him probably.
Of course left-wing to far-left newspapers like the guardian or the german "Spiegel" will spin everything into something different trying to keep up the left-wing narrative.